Is Lebron now an elite 3 point shooter?

[plowking]

Or if not, is it at least a significant strength of his game?

Just for some perspective, someone like his teammate Kyrie who is considered an elite shooter has made 1.7 threes a game at a clip of .377 since he entered the league. In that same time, Bron has been hitting the three at a rate of .385, with 1.3 made 3 pointers a game.

Kevin Love, another 3 point champion is another one of his teammates he has outperformed over his last 4 or 5 seasons in terms of percentages.

[Ariza4three]

elite, imo, is 40%+ on like 2 makes a game.

[VengefulAngel]

Yes, he's an elite 3 point shooter has been for 3 years now. It's a legitimate weapon, but team's will settle for him taking them given how devastating his inside game is//was.

[Dresta]

No, he's good, not elite. To be elite you have to be one of the best in the league at a certain thing. There are clearly some guys in a different stratosphere to Bron when it comes to shooting the ball.

[VengefulAngel]

No, he's good, not elite. To be elite you have to be one of the best in the league at a certain thing. There are clearly some guys in a different stratosphere to Bron when it comes to shooting the ball.

A lebron catch and shoot three is one of the most deadly weapons in the game, he's been top 5 in that category for the last 3 years. It's a shame he's lest adept at off-dribble three's/ transition three's.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Very good 3PT shooter - not elite.

[Lexington Steel]

Elite is Steph Curry, Kyle Korver, Klay Thompson, Damian Lillard, and a few others.

LeBron is not up there with those guys. He's good, but not with the NBA's best.

[Hoopz2332]

No, he's good, not elite. To be elite you have to be one of the best in the league at a certain thing. There are clearly some guys in a different stratosphere to Bron when it comes to shooting the ball.


lebron isn't a Korver/Curry 3pt shooter but he pretty deadly from 3



lebron is a better 3 pt shooter than especially when he's set and spotting up. This myth that lebron only takes wide open 3's has to stop:oldlol: here is breakdown on lebron's 3pt shooting last season. Lebron is beast from 3 guarded or unguared as long as he's on balance.


Why Can LeBron James Shoot Three-Pointers All Of A Sudden?

http://i.imgur.com/bOzrQt2.png


http://hoopchalk.com/2013/05/29/why-can-lebron-james-shoot-three-pointers-all-of-a-sudden/


and elite spot up shooting:bowdown:


He crushed the rest of the league in PER last season with a 31.7, just shy of his career high. He shot a ridiculous 56.5 percent from the field. He scored more points in the paint per game than anybody else in the league. He dished out more assists than most point guards. He registered a higher rebound rate than Marc Gasol and Robin Lopez. Defensively, he's tall, quick and strong enough to guard just about anyone in the league, and he almost did.

And if all that wasn't enough, consider this: He now wields one of the most potent jumpers in the league. Only Jose Calderon averaged more points per spot-up play than James, according to Synergy Sports.

Most efficient spot-up players, 2012-13 regular season(Min. 100 plays)

Player Plays Points PPP
Jose Calderon 187 281 1.50
LeBron James 143 195 1.36
Kyle Korver 224 301 1.34
Steve Nash 114 153 1.32
Stephen Curry 226 294 1.30


James' name pops up near the top of all the jump-shot leaderboards for last season. And that includes the unguarded catch-and-shoot category, in which he effectively shot 73.1 percent once you account for the added value of 3s. Only five players were more lethal with open shots. While he couldn't find his shot in the Finals until the very end, he ended up converting 37.5 percent of his 3s in the postseason, which is well above average. (For perspective, Kevin Durant shot 31.3 percent from deep in the playoffs.)


:bowdown:


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[navy]

No, he's good, not elite. To be elite you have to be one of the best in the league at a certain thing. There are clearly some guys in a different stratosphere to Bron when it comes to shooting the ball.
He's one of the best at catch and shooting. Top 5 in the nba. But yeah, his off the dribble or pullup is just average.

[plowking]

So in terms of spot up shots, he is one of the best in the league?

[20Four]

Anyone can make it if they leave you wide open to shoot........

[VengefulAngel]

So in terms of spot up shots, he is one of the best in the league?

Yep, pretty consistently year to year too, kind of dent's the theory that Lebron is awful off the ball.

[navy]

So in terms of spot up shots, he is one of the best in the league?
Yep, if he improved his shot speed he could stop taking off balance threes and rely on the quick trigger to get the shot off. Obviously easier said then done.

[Hoopz2332]

So in terms of spot up shots, he is one of the best in the league?


yep.

[20Four]

yep.
:roll: :roll: :roll: calm down son! Hes not even a decent shooter at most......why would the defense if hes a "good" shooter, leave him wide open to shoot? Come on son! Just because LeBRONZE is sponsored by McDonald's doesn't mean you have to support him, did he like buy you 30 big macs?

[Lexington Steel]

Just because LeBRONZE is sponsored by McDonald's doesn't mean you have to support him, did he like buy you 30 big macs?
:oldlol:

Wow.

[Hoopz2332]

:roll: :roll: :roll: calm down son! Hes not even a decent shooter at most......why would the defense if hes a "good" shooter, leave him wide open to shoot? Come on son! Just because LeBRONZE is sponsored by McDonald's doesn't mean you have to support him, did he like buy you 30 big macs?


How is your boy Kobe doing?:roll:

[Mass Debator]

Yep, pretty consistently year to year too, kind of dent's the theory that Lebron is awful off the ball.
Spot up shooting takes 1 second to pull off. He is coasting during the other 23 seconds. Moving laterally off ball and cutting to provide space for the handler and other shooters are underrated skills. Effort has a lot to do with it too.

[pauk]

Sure, no pure shooter like KD but yea.

[ballinhun8]

No.


Elite are guys you don't want shooting three pointers and ones the defense focuses on stopping.


Most teams would let LeBron shoot the 3 ball rather than drive or pull up from midrange.

[kshutts1]

No.


Elite are guys you don't want shooting three pointers and ones the defense focuses on stopping.


Most teams would let LeBron shoot the 3 ball rather than drive or pull up from midrange.
Just because Lebron is more dangerous with some skills (driving, etc) doesn't mean that he's not elite at another. Just more elite at driving/finishing.

And to all those saying "No", there's a difference between being elite and being known for it. Lebron is one, but not the other.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Not elite but he's very good. Elite to me is Steph Curry, Ray Allen, Kyle Korver...etc types

[Real14]

Mods?

[kshutts1]

Not elite but he's very good. Elite to me is Steph Curry, Ray Allen, Kyle Korver...etc types
No doubt they are better than Lebron. But there can be ranks even amongst the elite.
Lebron is a better player than: Harden, Paul, Curry, Westbrook, etc, but that doesn't mean that those 4, and perhaps more, are not elite.

[dubnation]

No, he's good, not elite. To be elite you have to be one of the best in the league at a certain thing. There are clearly some guys in a different stratosphere to Bron when it comes to shooting the ball.

Agree with this, though like others have said his catch and shoot is pretty deadly.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Elite to me is like prime Ray, Curry, Peja, Miller, Korver etc.

Bron is a great 3 point shooter but not in the same league as those guys

He IS an elite catch and shoot player though.

[Real14]

Not elite but he's very good. Elite to me is Steph Curry, Ray Allen, Kyle Korver...etc types

http://cdn-jpg.si.com/sites/default/files/2013/06/ray-allen-returning-heat.jpg

[FireDavidKahn]

Being a shooter isn't just about raw 3 point field goal percentage, but rather what type of shot they are taking. For example, someone who shoots 43% but only when he is wide open isn't nearly as valuable as someone who shoots 38% in every 3 point situation

[Nash]

Future 37 year old Bron = spot up shooter :applause:
Kyle Korver style

[JebronLames]

:roll: :roll: :roll: calm down son! Hes not even a decent shooter at most......why would the defense if hes a "good" shooter, leave him wide open to shoot? Come on son! Just because LeBRONZE is sponsored by McDonald's doesn't mean you have to support him, did he like buy you 30 big macs?
Go clean up some shiit.

[sdot_thadon]

I think he is, he worked his way up to at minimum the doorstep of elite. You guys gotta recognize there is a difference between elite and all time great. Steph, ray and some of these others guys mentioned are all time great. And of course you'd rather him shoot the 3 because he's at or was at an all time great level in the paint.

[Joyner82reload]

:roll:

[ImKobe]

lmfao

people were comparing Bran's spot up shooting to Harden's and Curry's a season ago, now he's shooting like Josh Smith on the Pistons :kobe:

[pauk]

Damn you Plow, that is some Konex level shit.

[Kvnzhangyay]

lmfao

people were comparing Bran's spot up shooting to Harden's and Curry's a season ago, now he's shooting like Josh Smith on the Pistons :kobe:

Even worse :roll: :roll:

[Magic 32]

7-48 so far in these playoffs.

3-28 against the Bulls.

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[iTare]

7-48 so far in these playoffs.

3-28 against the Bulls.

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
Still in the Conference finals :bowdown:

[Dro]

Still in the Conference finals :bowdown:
That's not the point. The thread asks, is he an elite 3 point shooter. The answer is no.

[Blue&Orange]

in which he effectively shot 73.1 percent once you account for the added value of 3s.
i loled

[iTare]

That's not the point. The thread asks, is he an elite 3 point shooter. The answer is no.
What

[pauk]

That's not the point. The thread asks, is he an elite 3 point shooter. The answer is no.

Stop it, Lebron has never shot this bad from the 3pt line in his career with this many attempts, not even in the playoffs, not even in 11' Finals.... he has always been a good to elite 3 point shooter, not Ray Allen / Steph Curry or Kevin Durant, but he is good, however at this very moment/playoff stretch, hell no... he went from 35.4% in the reg. season to 14.6% in a blink of an eye and has yet to have a good shooting night from there.... Some curse thing going on.... :coleman:

With that being said, some epic 3pt shooting night(s) is bound to happen for him anytime soon..... if not, then Lebron has officially somehow become a 14.6% 3pt shooter for the rest of his career.

[Dro]

Stop it, Lebron has never shot this bad from the 3pt line in his career with this many attempts, not even in the playoffs, not even in 11' Finals.... he has always been a good to elite 3 point shooter, not Ray Allen / Steph Curry or Kevin Durant, but he is good, however at this very moment/playoff stretch, hell no... he went from 35.4% in the reg. season to 14.6% in a blink of an eye and has yet to have a good shooting night from there.... Some curse thing going on.... :coleman:
Nobody said he wasn't good. The question is ELITE. You're saying he's Steph Curry/Klay Thompson level. He clearly is NOT and never has been. Stop being super fans for a moment and think rationally.

[Magic 32]

Still in the (*******) Conference finals :bowdown:

http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/Funnies/WaKzND4_zpsfcc4f580.gif~original

[plowking]

That's not the point. The thread asks, is he an elite 3 point shooter. The answer is no.

It is 2 series into a playoff run. Allen a few years back was shooting 25% over the same amount of series.

Based on the last 4 seasons you'd have to say he is good to elite. A stretch of bad shooting doesn't change that.