Kobe one of the leaders of +/- (on the wrong side...)

[oarabbus]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B5d2XMyCMAEXDcG.png:large


:eek:

RuiningtheTeamBe

Those numbers are truly horrendous.

[Real14]

What have Kobe done to you man?:lol

[RoundMoundOfReb]

I was making threads about this like a month ago. This forum owes me an apology.

[nba_55]

LMVP! Playing like he's the worst player in the league right now.

[Real14]

I was making threads about this like a month ago. This forum owes me an apology.

The mods owe you a ban.

[dubnation]

Kobe ranks 123rd (out of 430) players in RPM right now... On the defensive side, he ranks 424th, just behind J.R. Smith :eek:

[andgar923]

I was making threads about this like a month ago. This forum owes me an apology.

People have been making threads about this years ago (albeit not to the same level of awfulness).

[Heavincent]

People have been making threads about this years ago (albeit not to the same level of awfulness).

Kobe was one of the leaders in +/- throughout most of his career. As usual, you don't know what the **** you're talking about.

[Yao Ming's Foot]

Right by Dwayne Wade and Goran Dragic :confusedshrug:

http://i.imgur.com/zrYn4zk.png

[fpliii]

Kobe was one of the leaders in +/- throughout most of his career. As usual, you don't know what the **** you're talking about.
This. Pisses me the hell off that people are trying to conflate Kobe now to the ridiculous player in his prime. Kobe's living up to all the false narratives that people were pushing throughout his career now, and the trolls are eating it up. :facepalm

[guy]

On basketball-reference.com, Plus/Minus Per 100 possessions (On Court) takes the margin of points-points allowed while they are on the court right? While Plus/Minus Net Per 100 possessions (On-Off) takes the margin of points-points allowed while they are on the court minus point-points allowed while they are off the court right? Whatever the case, Kobe's is incredibly bad right now. :oldlol:

[Nowitness]

Right by Dwayne Wade and Goran Dragic :confusedshrug:

http://i.imgur.com/zrYn4zk.png

source?

[Yao Ming's Foot]

source?

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/RPM/position/2

[Mr Feeny]

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/RPM/position/2

So Kobe is worse than those mentioned? Ok!

[Magic 32]

The Boozer effect.

Can we see the numbers since Davis and Price was inserted into the starting 5?

[ArbitraryWater]

The Boozer effect.

Can we see the numbers since Davis and Price was inserted into the starting 5?


:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[juju151111]

Right by Dwayne Wade and Goran Dragic :confusedshrug:

http://i.imgur.com/zrYn4zk.png
He below both and combine both offense and defense he is been garbage.

[Sharmer]

I was making threads about this like a month ago. This forum owes me an apology.

:bowdown:

[Magic 32]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDHQMfIxTp8

http://images.wildammo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Boozer.gif

[DonDadda59]

I was making threads about this like a month ago. This forum owes me an apology.

You da real MVP (http://youtu.be/llQYRlu1wWw?t=37s) :applause:

[guy]

On basketball-reference.com, Plus/Minus Per 100 possessions (On Court) takes the margin of points-points allowed while they are on the court right? While Plus/Minus Net Per 100 possessions (On-Off) takes the margin of points-points allowed while they are on the court minus point-points allowed while they are off the court right? Whatever the case, Kobe's is incredibly bad right now. :oldlol:

Anyone???

[TheBigVeto]

I was making threads about this like a month ago. This forum owes me an apology.


:bowdown: :bowdown:

[JohnMax]

No one can compare to Kobe's wide-ranging negative impact. He's playing badly, but that's just the beginning of the big picture. He's the main reason Dwight and Pau left. He's the reason Bosh and Melo didn't sign on. In the past, being a free agent and getting a max offer from the Lakers was considered a monumental compliment and opportunity. Now, significant players avoid the Lakers and dream of playing for the Clippers or the Warriors. He seems to have alienated Nash, Boozer, and Lin. When he passed Jordan in points scored, most of his own teammates sheepishly congratulated him, with very little enthusiasm, like kids ordered by their parents to wish their creepy uncle a happy birthday. The only guy who seems to somewhat like him is "Shaggy P," a rash, immature, low IQ player who's taking more and more bad shots in imitation of his role model. He'll eat up even more salary room next year, while rationalizing that the Lakers "still have enough for a max contract" (never mind that having Pau AND Dwight wasn't enough). There's no way to paint Kobe's final contract and final years with the Lakers as anything but a complete failure and disappointment.

[Artillery]

+6.46 RPM - Duncan (3rd in the entire NBA)
-2.06 RPM - Kobe (328 in the entire NBA)

:applause: TD best of his generation

[Droid101]

+6.46 RPM - Duncan (3rd in the entire NBA)
-2.06 RPM - Kobe (328 in the entire NBA)

:applause: TD best of his generation
Kobe definitely has players that are playing along side him like Manu, Parker, Leonard, Green, etc.

[DMAVS41]

Kobe definitely has players that are playing along side him like Manu, Parker, Leonard, Green, etc.

True, but Duncan is just a flat out better player...

[Mr Feeny]

Kobe definitely has players that are playing along side him like Manu, Parker, Leonard, Green, etc.

Duncan is on another level, mate. Stay mad:lol

[Bless Mathews]

No one can compare to Kobe's wide-ranging negative impact. He's playing badly, but that's just the beginning of the big picture. He's the main reason Dwight and Pau left. He's the reason Bosh and Melo didn't sign on. In the past, being a free agent and getting a max offer from the Lakers was considered a monumental compliment and opportunity. Now, significant players avoid the Lakers and dream of playing for the Clippers or the Warriors. He seems to have alienated Nash, Boozer, and Lin. When he passed Jordan in points scored, most of his own teammates sheepishly congratulated him, with very little enthusiasm, like kids ordered by their parents to wish their creepy uncle a happy birthday. The only guy who seems to somewhat like him is "Shaggy P," a rash, immature, low IQ player who's taking more and more bad shots in imitation of his role model. He'll eat up even more salary room next year, while rationalizing that the Lakers "still have enough for a max contract" (never mind that having Pau AND Dwight wasn't enough). There's no way to paint Kobe's final contract and final years with the Lakers as anything but a complete failure and disappointment.
On point poast of the month nominee.

:applause:

[Mr Feeny]

+6.46 RPM - Duncan (3rd in the entire NBA)
-2.06 RPM - Kobe (328 in the entire NBA)

:applause: TD best of his generation

Not even close. Duncan is leaps and bounds ahead of the 37%fg shooting chucker.

[Prometheus]

No one can compare to Kobe's wide-ranging negative impact. He's playing badly, but that's just the beginning of the big picture. He's the main reason Dwight and Pau left. He's the reason Bosh and Melo didn't sign on. In the past, being a free agent and getting a max offer from the Lakers was considered a monumental compliment and opportunity. Now, significant players avoid the Lakers and dream of playing for the Clippers or the Warriors. He seems to have alienated Nash, Boozer, and Lin. When he passed Jordan in points scored, most of his own teammates sheepishly congratulated him, with very little enthusiasm, like kids ordered by their parents to wish their creepy uncle a happy birthday. The only guy who seems to somewhat like him is "Shaggy P," a rash, immature, low IQ player who's taking more and more bad shots in imitation of his role model. He'll eat up even more salary room next year, while rationalizing that the Lakers "still have enough for a max contract" (never mind that having Pau AND Dwight wasn't enough). There's no way to paint Kobe's final contract and final years with the Lakers as anything but a complete failure and disappointment.

damn

[Sharmer]

No one can compare to Kobe's wide-ranging negative impact. He's playing badly, but that's just the beginning of the big picture. He's the main reason Dwight and Pau left. He's the reason Bosh and Melo didn't sign on. In the past, being a free agent and getting a max offer from the Lakers was considered a monumental compliment and opportunity. Now, significant players avoid the Lakers and dream of playing for the Clippers or the Warriors. He seems to have alienated Nash, Boozer, and Lin. When he passed Jordan in points scored, most of his own teammates sheepishly congratulated him, with very little enthusiasm, like kids ordered by their parents to wish their creepy uncle a happy birthday. The only guy who seems to somewhat like him is "Shaggy P," a rash, immature, low IQ player who's taking more and more bad shots in imitation of his role model. He'll eat up even more salary room next year, while rationalizing that the Lakers "still have enough for a max contract" (never mind that having Pau AND Dwight wasn't enough). There's no way to paint Kobe's final contract and final years with the Lakers as anything but a complete failure and disappointment.


Lakers are stuck with him. No trade value. I'm tipping another 4 years before the Lakers will be in the playoffs.

[AirFederer]

Someone needs to make a pic of Kobe wearing the "check my $tat$" shirt :lol

[Artillery]

http://i.imgur.com/gxPgGhQ.png

[RRR3]

http://i.imgur.com/gxPgGhQ.png
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Mr Feeny]

http://i.imgur.com/gxPgGhQ.png

Haha he's just pathetic:lol

[HurricaneKid]

Right by Dwayne Wade and Goran Dragic :confusedshrug:

http://i.imgur.com/zrYn4zk.png

Is this shopped??

Because he is right behind ZORAN (not Goran) Dragic and JUSTIN (not Jrue) Holiday right now...

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/page/3/sort/RPM/position/2

[T_L_P]

Kobe definitely has players that are playing along side him like Manu, Parker, Leonard, Green, etc.

Parker (so not one of the Spurs' scrubs like Daye) is currently in the 300-350 range.

Why is his RPM so bad considering he has players like Duncan (currently 3rd in the entire league), Manu, Leonard, Green etc beside him?

Also, Ed Davis has a positive RPM. He has the same cast as Kobe.

It just so happens that Tim is having a much more effective season than Kobe.

[juju151111]

Is this shopped??

Because he is right behind ZORAN (not Goran) Dragic and JUSTIN (not Jrue) Holiday right now...

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/page/3/sort/RPM/position/2
YMF Is a clown:lol

[Akhenaten]

Is this shopped??

Because he is right behind ZORAN (not Goran) Dragic and JUSTIN (not Jrue) Holiday right now...

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/page/3/sort/RPM/position/2

not shopped, just a screenshot from an earlier point in the season
pathetic either way, he knows it's not current that's why he didnt post a link

sad stuff

[fpliii]

not shopped, just a screenshot from an earlier point in the season
pathetic either way, he knows it's not current that's why he didnt post a link

sad stuff
It can't be from earlier in the season though. First two columns correspond to games played and minutes per game.

Willing to give YMF the benefit of the doubt though. That's not his style.

[Akhenaten]

It can't be from earlier in the season though. First two columns correspond to games played and minutes per game.

Willing to give YMF the benefit of the doubt though. That's not his style.

true, I really hope dude didnt photoshop that :facepalm

[AirFederer]

http://i.imgur.com/gxPgGhQ.png
:bowdown: :roll:

[JohnMax]

Right by Dwayne Wade and Goran Dragic :confusedshrug:

http://i.imgur.com/zrYn4zk.png

http://i.imgur.com/EbqQfXa.png

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/page/2/sort/RPM/position/2

[oarabbus]

http://i.imgur.com/gxPgGhQ.png


:roll:

[TheMarkMadsen]

not shopped, just a screenshot from an earlier point in the season
pathetic either way, he knows it's not current that's why he didnt post a link

sad stuff

He posted the link you idiot

[juju151111]

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/RPM/position/2
Photoshop

[Velocirap31]

Bump