Lebron was carrying scrubs in Miami top 5 all time

[rlsmooth775]

These guys look horrible Norris Cole and Chalmers might be playing in china 2 years from now. It's just unbelievable Lebron made this d league squad repeat champions. He is without a doubt a top 5 player all time i have to put him above russell and chamberlain. They played on stacked teams and never had to carry a team to win rings

[oh the horror]

Then why does Cleveland look underwhelming?

[Relinquish]

Then why does Cleveland look underwhelming?

To be fair, it's what... 26 games into the season? I have a feeling they will look fine come playoff time.

[rlsmooth775]

Then why does Cleveland look underwhelming?

They would probably on the same level as the 76ers without lebron

[20Four]

They would probably on the same level as the 76ers without lebron
Shouldn't you be standing in the corner selling your fvcking body? Now get back on the streets garbage can ho

[3ball]

https://hogtrot.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/lebron-wade-bosh.jpg


the only time in history where 3 dream-teamers played on the same team..

now that wade is a old and a shell and lebron is gone, the heat are mediocre.

[rlsmooth775]

https://hogtrot.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/lebron-wade-bosh.jpg


the only time in history where 3 dream-teamers played on the same team..

now that wade is a old and a shell and lebron is gone, the heat are mediocre.

Lebron was the only superstar when they won those championships. Lebron made old injured wade and slightly above average bosh look better than they were.

[SouBeachTalents]

https://hogtrot.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/lebron-wade-bosh.jpg


the only time in history where 3 dream-teamers played on the same team..

now that wade is a old and a shell and lebron is gone, the heat are mediocre.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Bqx1k2lTtKg/UEl45dawh2I/AAAAAAAAAjg/Omwe-halSRw/s1600/Oklahoma-City-Thunder-Players-in-the-2012-Olympics.jpg

[JebronLames]

Lebron was the only superstar when they won those championships. Lebron made old injured wade and slightly above average bosh look better than they were.
Yes. 2012- Wade played like an all star, bosh did not but was playing hurt.
2013- neither played like an all star.

[Shep]

actually he is top 3 all time

[JohnMax]

2014-15 Lebron James .493 25.2 ppg 5.2 reb 7.8 ast 1.4 stl 0.7 blk 3.8 tov 25.37 per

2010-11 Dwyane Wade .500 25.5 ppg 6.4 reb 4.6 ast 1.5 stl 1.1 blk 3.1 tov 25.65 per

[FLDFSU]

Shouldn't you be standing in the corner selling your fvcking body? Now get back on the streets garbage can ho

:roll: They finally banned him.

[3ball]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Bqx1k2lTtKg/UEl45dawh2I/AAAAAAAAAjg/Omwe-halSRw/s1600/Oklahoma-City-Thunder-Players-in-the-2012-Olympics.jpg
hmmm... both the thunder and heat big 3's were underachievers and play super suboptimal basketball, which is why they both underachieved and fell far short of dynasty status.. :confusedshrug:

[pauk]

Then why does Cleveland look underwhelming?

2010-11 - 19 wins
2011-12 - 21 wins
2012-13 - 24 wins
2013-14 - 33 wins

By their standards Cleveland is actually overwhelming right now.

[3ball]

2010-11 - 19 wins
2011-12 - 21 wins
2012-13 - 24 wins
2013-14 - 33 wins

By their standards Cleveland is actually overwhelming right now.
when you team-hop to the most stacked team and play with two other all-stars, you are supposed to have a dynasty.

but lebron will never have a dynasty.

[3ball]

lebron is great at achieving regular season success.

but there are always teams that play a better brand of basketball than his teams, which causes him to underachieve in the playoffs when he goes up against those teams, who are invariably less talented.

[navy]

Broken record. I wonder what Kblaze sees. :oldlol:

[SouBeachTalents]

lebron is great at achieving regular season success.

but there are always teams that play a better brand of basketball than his teams, which causes him to underachieve in the playoffs when he goes up against those teams, even though the teams have been less talented.

Besides maybe the 2011 Mavs, which team that's beaten LeBron in the playoffs had inferior talent on the roster?

[3ball]

Besides maybe the 2011 Mavs, which team that's beaten LeBron in the playoffs had inferior talent on the roster?
2014 Spurs

[Sharmer]

Stretch thread. Wade and Bosh scrubs? Ray Allen ?

[Dresta]

Lebron was the only superstar when they won those championships. Lebron made old injured wade and slightly above average bosh look better than they were.
Then why are they playing better without them? Does Bron magic away an epidemic of injuries.

[yarrak]

Shouldn't you be standing in the corner selling your fvcking body? Now get back on the streets garbage can ho

Everytime I see this midget, he is insulting people. I wonder what his childhood was like. Probably got raped and shit.

[Bandito]

2010-11 - 19 wins
2011-12 - 21 wins
2012-13 - 24 wins
2013-14 - 33 wins

By their standards Cleveland is actually overwhelming right now.
Cav only had one all star and he wasn't there ready to be an all star or even there for some of those years,:lol

[Bandito]

Besides maybe the 2011 Mavs, which team that's beaten LeBron in the playoffs had inferior talent on the roster?
The Spurs. They had better team play but the team was just better.


Heat bench > Spurs bench

Wade > Manu
Bosh > Splitter
Chalmers < Parker
Lebron > Leonard
whoever was playing here < Duncan

[Done_And_Done]

actually he is top 3 all time

I've heard you utter this before. You may be correct in terms of talent but his resume still needs some upgrading before we can give him the number 3.

[ArbitraryWater]

The Spurs. They had better team play but the team was just better.


Heat bench > Spurs bench

Wade > Manu
Bosh > Splitter
Chalmers < Parker
Lebron > Leonard
whoever was playing here < Duncan


Holy shit you're dumb.... Manu was >>> Wade, Splitter was >> Bosh, and the Heat bench doesn't even begin to compare against SAS'.....

How do you explain your post, and the finals result of Miami getting shredded 1-4 with LeBron scoring 28 PPG on 57%?

Or the Heat being a miserable 12-15 in the EAST right now?

[riseagainst]

2014-15 Lebron James .493 25.2 ppg 5.2 reb 7.8 ast 1.4 stl 0.7 blk 3.8 tov 25.37 per

2010-11 Dwyane Wade .500 25.5 ppg 6.4 reb 4.6 ast 1.5 stl 1.1 blk 3.1 tov 25.65 per

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/thread
/rekt

OP getting destroyed.

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[sdot_thadon]

https://hogtrot.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/lebron-wade-bosh.jpg


the only time in history where 3 dream-teamers played on the same team..

now that wade is a old and a shell and lebron is gone, the heat are mediocre.
Um as mentioned:
Westbrook Durant Harden
Dream Pippen Glide
Dream Pippen Barkley
Kobe Shaq Malone Payton

And just for shits and giggles not all us mens national teams guys:
Kidd chandler dirk
Kobe Gasol Odom


And to answer the Op, hell no he didn't carry any scrubs. The heat had a flawed roster where he was forced to plug lots of holes. The only carrying he did was due to injuries to his teammates.

[Human Error]

Then why are they playing better without them? Does Bron magic away an epidemic of injuries.
Playing better? I don't know. They may be putting up more ppg because of the increased shot opportunities but the team is not winning. If their improved stats are not being translated into more wins, I would not say that they are playing better because the ballgame is all about helping the team win. And I don't know if 18/8 on 45% is better than 16/7 on 53% in Bosh's case.

[Dresta]

Bosh is averaging 22/8, not 18/8. And yes, they are playing better. They are losing for a number of reasons, and none of them have to do with their level of play.

Last night against Philadelphia, was, i think, one of the worst coaching displays i have ever seen. Obviously a team who has lost one of its key replacements, and which has been riddled with injuries (including the two best players missing a fair amount of time), is going to struggle to win games. Not hard to figure that one out.

[RedBlackAttack]

Cav only had one all star and he wasn't there ready to be an all star or even there for some of those years,:lol
Agenda threads suck, but responders should still try to at least be semi-reasonable or they're just as responsible for the quality of the board.

The Cavs were only actually *trying* to win games in one of those four seasons, and that team:

A. Had three starters under the age of 22;
B. Were coached by Mike Brown, who was in his first year;
C. Spent the first three months of the season attempting to run the offense through Andrew Bynum, who I believe is out of the league now (that was just last year).

In the other three years listed, the Cavs had really one goal... show some promise, but remain bad enough to get a high draft pick. And, guess what? Worked like a charm.

[La Frescobaldi]

actually he is top 3 all time

no.

he wrecked his own career and should be banned from the Hall of Fame because of non-stop, constant, shameless flopping.

He disrespected the game.

[Shep]

I've heard you utter this before. You may be correct in terms of talent but his resume still needs some upgrading before we can give him the number 3.
LeBron James has been the best player in the league for 6 straight seasons (and the three seasons prior to that he was top 2), and out of those seasons he deserved to be named league MVP 5 of them, pretty good resume if you ask me.

[GrapeApe]

Stupid thread. The Heat have 6-7 rotation players this year that weren't on the roster last year. It's a very different team and they've been decimated with injuries. They've had a league high 12 different starting lineups. Birdman has started more games this year than his entire career combined. When both Wade and Bosh play they're 10-6 and have looked like a very solid team. You're not winning many games when guys like Shawn Williams, Justin Hamilton, James Ennis, Shabazz Napier, and a broken down Udonis Haslem are asked to be major contributors.

[tmacattack33]

Then why does Cleveland look underwhelming?

Cleveland has only 3 losses in the month of December, and one of them was when Lebron sat out. They don't look bad to me.

[tmacattack33]

Stupid thread. The Heat have 6-7 rotation players this year that weren't on the roster last year. It's a very different team and they've been decimated with injuries. They've had a league high 12 different starting lineups. Birdman has started more games this year than his entire career combined. When both Wade and Bosh play they're 10-6 and have looked like a very solid team. You're not winning many games when guys like Shawn Williams, Justin Hamilton, James Ennis, Shabazz Napier, and a broken down Udonis Haslem are asked to be major contributors.

Agenda post spotted.

All this talk of their new players yet no mention of the fact that they now have Deng who is a better player than anyone they have had over the past four years (aside from the big 3 of course).

Also no mention of how Wade was more injured last year than he has been this year.

[GrapeApe]

Agenda post spotted.

All this talk of their new players yet no mention of the fact that they now have Deng who is a better player than anyone they have had over the past four years (aside from the big 3 of course).

Also no mention of how Wade was more injured last year than he has been this year.

I didn't mention Deng because he's solid player and shouldn't be grouped in with those other guys. I'm not sure you understood what I was saying.

The OP was trying to use the Heat's early struggles as "proof" that LeBron carried the team. I was simply pointing out the stupidity of that logic. I'm not sure why LeBron stans are so insecure. They're looking for any source of perceived validation of his greatness. Everyone knows he's a great player, just as everyone knows Wade and Bosh are great players as well. Every great player who wins championships has great teammates.