Cavs fear Anderson Varejao has a torn Achilles and is out for season

[JohnMax]

MRI tomorrow

[buddha]

so where does LeBron go next season?

i'm guessing the Rockets.

[beastee]

TT has his hands full. Waiters trade by the weekend?

[J Shuttlesworth]

That's a shame. He has been balling his ass off this year, for real.

[navy]

Will be interesting to see if they use Haywood more or just move Love to 5 Lebron to 4 for stretches of the game. Not like Varejao was defending the paint.

[magictricked]

if true Lebron will demand a trade any day now. He didn't sign up for this

[edrick]

Damn, so many bad injuries this year.

[JebronLames]

Dammit, their 4th best player. He was their 2nd best player in 09-10.

[inclinerator]

brandan hayword is better anyways

[NattyPButter]

Now fire the GM for giving his injury prone as that damn new contract. Gave him way to much knowing he cant stay healthy.

[SwishSquared]

Now fire the GM for giving his injury prone as that damn new contract. Gave him way to much knowing he cant stay healthy.
Yeah, I didn't expect for him to get that many guaranteed years/dollars. Hopefully Andy's ok- he's fun to watch most of the time. However, how many people thought he'd make it through this year healthy...

[Sharmer]

That's going to hurt the Cavs, they lack inside presence.

[poido123]

That sucks.


I did warn all the cavs fans about his injury history, but they didn't want to believe or hear it.

I hope Andy V can recover quickly and tough luck for the Cavs :(

And that contract they just paid out...

[rhowen4]

lerbron's voodoo strikes again

rip

[Magic 32]

Could have been a better player.

Oh well.

[Lebron23]

They really need to sign a big man ASAP.

[WallIn]

Varejao cannot be relied upon in the long run. He's too injury prone.

[andremiller07]

I like Andy but Cleveland is a scum team who doesn't deserve to win anything, they had like 4 number #1 pick in the last decade (if that was not enough) and they colluded to get Kevin Love so they can get ****ed. Seriously your in the Eastern Conference......

I hope Andy stays healthy/has a quick recovery he's the only legit guy that's not a pansy on that team. The Cavaliers deserve nothing but the worst

[PleezeBelieve]

They just keep starting him and he just keep getting major injuries

Just stupid... stupid.

Where's RBA to excuse this one.

[MJ(Mean John)]

Walters for jordan Hill.
Whos says no?

[Nash]

Walters for jordan Hill.
Whos says no?
Cleveland, Dion Waiters is finding his game with this new Cavs.

[kurple]

Mozgov will be a Cavalier within two weeks

[n00bie]

They really need to sign a big man ASAP.

Definitely. Lebron needs more help. Someome help him, pleaseeeeee!

[Done_And_Done]

Tough break. They'll definitely need to plug that hole if he's out for an extended period of time.

[Uncle Drew]

That sucks.


I did warn all the cavs fans about his injury history, but they didn't want to believe or hear it.
:roll:

You're such a phony.

[Duderonomy]

It's a 3-4 month injury for a role player R-E-L-A-X.

[VengefulAngel]

It's a 3-4 month injury for a role player R-E-L-A-X.

This team has no depth, they need Vaejao's production.

[DukeDelonte13]

It's a 3-4 month injury for a role player R-E-L-A-X.


this. Thompson has looked just as good if not better. Obviously it's a problem but its not catastrophic.

Nobody knows how severe this injury is anyways yet. I hope the cavs don't jump into a stupid trade because of this.

[poido123]

:roll:

You're such a phony.



http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=354888&page=2

http://207.58.151.151/forum/showthread.php?t=359396&page=5



I said it, no one believed it. Even RBA passed off Varejeo's injury history as nothing more than being extremely unlucky.

[ImKobe]

It's a 3-4 month injury for a role player R-E-L-A-X.

Well, only if it's a minor tear.

Chances are he's out for the season, because he won't be able to play for 3-4 months and the rehab will take time before he gets his legs back. It took like 6 months for Kobe to start running at full speed again.

[Uncle Drew]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=354888&page=2

http://207.58.151.151/forum/showthread.php?t=359396&page=5



I said it, no one believed it. Even RBA passed off Varejeo's injury history as nothing more than being extremely unlucky.
Three out of four people who reacted on your stupid comment, were arguing whether Rose or Varejao is more injury prone. :oldlol:

Get off your high horse.

[jzek]

First Wade, now Varejao! Why does it seem like every decent sidekick he has gets injured?

[jzek]

They really need to sign a big man ASAP.

Wasn't Big Z trying to make a comeback?

[DukeDelonte13]

Wasn't Big Z trying to make a comeback?


just a rumor

[G0ATbe]

"I'm Going Back"

-LeBald 2015 offseason

[CarlosBoozer]

Sign me up.

[PleezeBelieve]

just a rumor
I told you he wasn't a starter

[The_Pharcyde]

I wonder when we can expect results, this will hurt cavs more than people realize. This would take away any sort of depth the cavs have as you now have to start Tristan Thompson.. Leave the bench unit as joe Harris, waiters, delly, and Haywood/Amundsen?
Hopefully not too severe.. Varejao is a cool dude

[GimmeThat]

it's okay, brazilians, they repair and grow, naturally

[Demitri98]

Waiters/Joe Harris for MozGod/Foye

Kyrie
Foye
LeBron
Love
MozGod

Lawson
Waiters
Afflalo
Faried
McGee/Hickson

[La Frescobaldi]

so where does LeBron go next season?

i'm guessing the Rockets.

western conference team.

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

j hill for waiters/haywood

[Lexington Steel]

@WojYahooNBA: Cleveland center Anderson Varejao has suffered a torn Achilles tendon and will miss the rest of the season, league source tells Yahoo Sports

Damn...

[Nash]

woj says he's out rest of season :(

[D-Wait]

It's Brendan Haywood time! :facepalm

[Dr Seuss]

Waiters for Hill and his expiring contract?

[Kidbasketball20]

"I'm coming home Miami" -
LeBron 2015 FA

[Meticode]

I think chances are slim we get Mozgov. Realistically, I think we'd end up with someone like Dalembert or something.

[All Net]

A trade is clearly needed for cavs now

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

I think chances are slim we get Mozgov. Realistically, I think we'd end up with someone like Dalembert or something.

what u think of Waiters/haywood for hill?

not trolling just asking

[Olacinco]

Waiters/Joe Harris for MozGod/Foye

Kyrie
Foye
LeBron
Love
MozGod

Lawson
Waiters
Afflalo
Faried
McGee/Hickson

lol

[Olacinco]

what u think of Waiters/haywood for hill?

not trolling just asking

lol

[Meticode]

what u think of Waiters/haywood for hill?

not trolling just asking
Sure. I don't think the Waiters relationship is going to work out in the long-term. The Cavaliers might be forced to move Haywood now because of this. They want to wait until next year when his contract is worth $10 million. Hell, they might even wait still and take this year as a bonding year for the team and not Finals material yet.

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

lol

this is the quality of this forum. you cant have a honest bb conversation with guys like meticode who have been around for a while.

mutha fcukas like u have ruined this board

[Crown&Coke]

Tough break for Andy, hope he has a full recovery.

NBA bigs don't get enough credit for what they do, it's tough work.

Kenyon Martin says his ankle is fully healthy, I would wait until January and give him a couple 10-days to prove it.

Sactown got a couple bigs they are looking to unload, their contract situations aren't great though.

[KyrieTheFuture]

I'm curious as to how people think we will be getting Mozgov when we have one less asset than we did last time we tried to do this

[La Frescobaldi]

this is the quality of this forum. you cant have a honest bb conversation with guys meticode who have been around for a while.

mutha fcukas like u have ruined this board

+1

[Meticode]

I felt the extension was a mistake. Especially given his recent history, but the Cavs caved to what the fans and LeBron seemingly wanted.

Brian Windhorst ‏@WindhorstESPN 7m7 minutes ago
2 items of note on Varejao injury: Cavs may change stance now on Grizzlies 1st round pick they own, they've resisted trading it. Also...

Brian Windhorst ‏@WindhorstESPN 4m4 minutes ago
Cavs will be able to apply for Disabled Player Exception of $5 million but it cannot be combined with their Traded Player Exception of $5.2M

Brian Windhorst ‏@WindhorstESPN 3m3 minutes ago
It's terrible injury at this stage of career for Varejao. However he'd protected himself with 3-yr, $30M ($19M guaranteed) extension in Oct

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

Sure. I don't think the Waiters relationship is going to work out in the long-term. The Cavaliers might be forced to move Haywood now because of this. They want to wait until next year when his contract is worth $10 million. Hell, they might even wait still and take this year as a bonding year for the team and not Finals material yet.

thanks. lebron left cause heat owner was being chip by amnestying his friend miller and then trading joel anthony.

if they dont trade for center it sends a wrong signal to Lebron who is not signed with u guys for long

[Olacinco]

this is the quality of this forum. you cant have a honest bb conversation with guys meticode who have been around for a while.

mutha fcukas like u have ruined this board


It was a stupid question brah.. u even said yourself u wasn't trying to troll...




meaning you were..

[Meticode]

I've been on the trade Varejao wagon since before last season. Whenever he got healthy and was playing well I felt they should've moved him for the future. I didn't think his health would hold out. It seems that's the case right now the team is facing.

[KobesFinger]

Its been confirmed (https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/547802789339230208)

[Taller than CP3]

Cavs need Robin Lopez. He's the only guy that can match Anderson's size and hairstyle.

[Meticode]

thanks. lebron left cause heat owner was being chip by amnestying his friend miller and then trading joel anthony.

if they dont trade for center it sends a wrong signal to Lebron who is not signed with u guys for long
The team and mos fans assume he's here long-term and his contract is structured to take advantage of the new cap space rules in the next years. I don't see him leaving, but I could be wrong as well. Even he said himself this is a long process when he chose to come here.

I think the Cavs should wait and not trade Haywood. Be patient, don't bank on the first year and cash in all your chips to put together something that might be better if you just wait.

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

I felt the extension was a mistake. Especially given his recent history, but the Cavs caved to what the fans and LeBron seemingly wanted.

Brian Windhorst ‏@WindhorstESPN 7m7 minutes ago
2 items of note on Varejao injury: Cavs may change stance now on Grizzlies 1st round pick they own, they've resisted trading it. Also...

Brian Windhorst ‏@WindhorstESPN 4m4 minutes ago
Cavs will be able to apply for Disabled Player Exception of $5 million but it cannot be combined with their Traded Player Exception of $5.2M

Brian Windhorst ‏@WindhorstESPN 3m3 minutes ago
It's terrible injury at this stage of career for Varejao. However he'd protected himself with 3-yr, $30M ($19M guaranteed) extension in Oct


absolutely there was no need

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

The team and mos fans assume he's here long-term and his contract is structured to take advantage of the new cap space rules in the next years. I don't see him leaving, but I could be wrong as well. Even he said himself this is a long process when he chose to come here.

I think the Cavs should wait and not trade Haywood. Be patient, don't bank on the first year and cash in all your chips to put together something that might be better if you just wait.

interesting. was under impression cavs would go all out

[Meticode]

Not sure if it was even posted, it's not longer a fear. He's torn his achilles. Out rest of the season. Tristan Thompson will probably be the new starting center. Past that I don't know what the heck Blatt is going to do. C was thin as it was.

[beastee]

No excuses for the Cavs...Well, now I guess they have one. And it is a pretty big deal. No way can they hang with the Bulls unless they replace him with a quality big. TT get's his big chance now I guess.

[sbw19]

Cavs will be fine without him. His contract is the bigger hurdle. Hope he comes back stronger next year.

[Trollsmasher]

Pretty big blow for the Cavs, even though Andy has been pretty shitty this year
http://puu.sh/dHYko/93a18b03ec.png

They certainly need to do better than scrap the barrel though. Shitty FAs won't help them.

[Nash]

I have a question about achilles injuries... is it something that was just about to happen sooner or later because the achilles tendon was bad or is it something that gets injured when you land awkwardly?

[jbryan1984]

It sucks but that'the NBA. I know he was really looking forward to playing with LeBron in the playoffa again. Dude just plays so damn hard ALL the time. Im pretty sure this is his fourtg season ending injury since LeBron left. So 4 out of 5 years gone to injury. We cant hang with the bulls in the playoffs without a decent center. Id see what indy wants for Hibbert exactly and who all is available. And I would def give Kmart a few ten days to see where he is at.

[BigTicket]

Damn, that really sucks. Cavs were weak at center already.

[gts]

I have a question about achilles injuries... is it something that was just about to happen sooner or later because the achilles tendon was bad or is it something that gets injured when you land awkwardly?from what i have read there's no reason why they blow up when they do, obviously something caused it, too much force is the usual reason cited but people have them tear walking down the street, athletes have often said it was just a normal moment when it blew up doing something they'd done a 1000 times...

they don't really know what constitutes too much force at that one moment, my dad who was very active, exercised, played racket ball twice a week tore his stepping off a curb

[Undisputed]

One less big for the Cavs, and easily their best big not named Kevin Love. This is a huge wound for a not so deep Cavs team. Love better stay out of foul trouble.

Wishing Andy V. a quick recovery. I have a lot of respect for him.

[PsychoBe]

when was the last time dude played a full season?

just an awful, awful injury and a big blow to the cavs front line.

[edrick]

That sucks, damn achilles just tears whenever it feels like it.

[SpecialQue]

woj says he's out rest of season :(

User name: Nash
Avy: Bosh
Team: Cavs

You're a bigger fraud than your favorite player.

[jayfan]

The team and mos fans assume he's here long-term and his contract is structured to take advantage of the new cap space rules in the next years. I don't see him leaving, but I could be wrong as well. Even he said himself this is a long process when he chose to come here.

I think the Cavs should wait and not trade Haywood. Be patient, don't bank on the first year and cash in all your chips to put together something that might be better if you just wait.

Isn't that what Cavs lower-management should have suggested to Lebron before he made all those off-season moves, and then signed Varaejo to an extension?




.

[Levity]

maybe the cavs will contact okafor and see just where he is in getting back to basketball shape. if hes even at 80%, its a pretty good move. he wasnt too bad his last season with washington.

[La Frescobaldi]

User name: Nash
Avy: Bosh
Team: Cavs

You're a bigger fraud than your favorite player.
Nash is Pauk.

[VengefulAngel]

The Cav's should just go small, play Lebron at the 4, Love at the 5 and get a decent wing defender.

[Real14]

I just hope the cavs don't get a better center than Varejao :facepalm

[Budadiiii]

Awful blow. Still have a better front-court than OKC though.

[Nowitness]

Hopefully this is true.

[ImKobe]

One of the most unluckiest NBA players ever lol, always gets injured on some bs.

[Mr Feeny]

User name: Nash
Avy: Bosh
Team: Cavs

You're a bigger fraud than your favorite player.
:oldlol:

[FatComputerNerd]

This really sucks.

We were already struggling defensively, and just lost our best/only serviceable low-post defender.

Not to mention losing the offensive chemistry Lebron and Andy have, and Andy's offensive rebounding.

This could seriously kill us :(

[Maga_1]

Look at Cavs signing Miroslav Raduljica or trading for Timofey Mozgov.
Mark my words.

[BurningHammer]

Tristan Thompson to the rescue! :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

[RedBlackAttack]

Tristan Thompson to the rescue! :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:
The problem isn't the drop-off from TT to Varejao. The Cavs have actually performed better this season with Tristan on the court. In fact, I had been promoting the idea of putting TT in the starting lineup and bringing Andy off the bench. Our starting unit will be fine.

The problem is the drop-off from Varejao to the next guy -- who I guess is Brendan Haywood. That's massive. Huge loss. Devastating to an already thin frontline. Obviously, a move will have to be made, but we're not getting anything close to Varejao's production without giving up something substantial.

[hawkfan]

The problem isn't the drop-off from TT to Varejao. The Cavs have actually performed better this season with Tristan on the court. In fact, I had been promoting the idea of putting TT in the starting lineup and bringing Andy off the bench. Our starting unit will be fine.

The problem is the drop-off from Varejao to the next guy -- who I guess is Brendan Haywood. That's massive. Huge loss. Devastating to an already thin frontline. Obviously, a move will have to be made, but we're not getting anything close to Varejao's production without giving up something substantial.

How about Amundson?

[RedBlackAttack]

How about Amundson?
Probably not the answer...

He's playing under 8 minutes a night, and 100-percent of those minutes have been in garbage time. Of course, the same goes for Haywood. It isn't a good situation right now.

Let's see if my man David Griffin can work some magic. I do not want to give up Dion Waiters with the way he has been playing lately. Too young, too talented.

[COnDEMnED]

Cavs trade incoming? Who has a Center available? Lakers Jordan Hill?

[Pointguard]

The problem isn't the drop-off from TT to Varejao. The Cavs have actually performed better this season with Tristan on the court. In fact, I had been promoting the idea of putting TT in the starting lineup and bringing Andy off the bench. Our starting unit will be fine.

The problem is the drop-off from Varejao to the next guy -- who I guess is Brendan Haywood. That's massive. Huge loss. Devastating to an already thin frontline. Obviously, a move will have to be made, but we're not getting anything close to Varejao's production without giving up something substantial.
Tristian is great off the bench - he's a little below average starter. And he doesn't provide the defense that AV does. I tend to think he's not the compliment to Love that AV was. AV knows how to step up being the main guy in the front court if Love's game is off -which seems to be a lot these days. And AV was the only long player, with energy, on the team. Its going to mean a lot if they face the Bulls, Bullets or Hawks in the playoffs and they are bound to meet at least two of them.

[eliteballer]

There's plenty of underachieving bums across the league they should be able to get with Waiters or the $5 million trade exception.

[MMM]

Boston / Memphis / Cleveland

Koufus to Cleveland
Green to Memphis
Waiters and Prince to Boston

Fillers and picks to make it work financially

Don't really want Waiters in Boston though

[KobesFinger]

Cavs trade incoming? Who has a Center available? Lakers Jordan Hill?

What could the Cavs give us? Hill makes $9m and has a team option

[COnDEMnED]

What could the Cavs give us? Hill makes $9m and has a team option
I'd settle for any first round pick or filler players. Anyone that helps with the rebuild, being a piece to keep or a piece that expires.

[bluechox2]

lebron panicking

[JebronLames]

Alex Kirk to the rescue

[kamil]

if true Lebron will demand a trade any day now. He didn't sign up for this

What a drama king... only time where his self titled 'king' nickname makes sense.

[RedBlackAttack]

Tristian is great off the bench - he's a little below average starter. And he doesn't provide the defense that AV does. I tend to think he's not the compliment to Love that AV was. AV knows how to step up being the main guy in the front court if Love's game is off -which seems to be a lot these days. And AV was the only long player, with energy, on the team. Its going to mean a lot if they face the Bulls, Bullets or Hawks in the playoffs and they are bound to meet at least two of them.
Well, the statistics don't agree with you, especially about Varejao being a better fit with Love than TT. So far this year, it has been the exact opposite. Because Varejao is such a good P&R player with LeBron and Kyrie, he could get a bit redundant with Love, turning Kevin into more of a spot-up shooter than he really should be. Plus, Thompson's athleticism combined with the obvious offensive talents of Irving/James/Love give us lob opportunities that simply aren't possible with Varejao. TT has actually been having some impressive "above the rim" moments pretty much every game on this roster.

Tristan is more of a traditional center, in that he sticks mainly around the rim and doesn't want to drift too far out of the paint.. He doesn't need plays run for him to have an impact and this means Love is going to be more involved in the offensive sets out on the perimeter and in the high post.

Part of the reason I had advanced the notion that TT might be better as the starter and bringing Andy off the bench was how well the team performs with the Love/TT combo as it compares with the Love/Andy one. It's obvious when you watch them play together every night, but the numbers also don't lie.

Calculated in mid-December
+/- per 100 possessions

Tristan: On-court: +8.7 On-Off: +10
Andy: On-court: +0.4 On-Off: -7.6

Irving-James-Marion-Love-Varejao lineup:
111 ORtg, 103 DRtg, net +8 per 100 possessions

Irving-James-Marion-Love-TT lineup:
124 ORtg, 96 DRtg, net +28 per 100 possessions



Tristan has been the better fit with Love so far. I guess that will be put to the ultimate test now, though.

[hawkfan]

Why does the league have to help out LeBron?

[Ariza4three]

Wouldn't be surprised if the Cavs made a run at O'Quinn or the even Dedmon