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3ball
12-24-2014, 05:09 PM
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Being allowed to camp in the lane meant swinging the ball was less effective in previous eras.. Defenders barely had to move when the ball was swung - they could remain stationary and just turn their head and body like a swivel chair.

But in today's game with defensive 3 seconds, players must stay out of the lane... So when the ball is swung, defenders must move from outside the lane on one side of the paint, to outside the lane on the other side of the paint - this is much easier for the offense to face than defenders getting to camp in the lane and merely swivel-chair when the ball is swung.
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KobesFinger
12-24-2014, 05:10 PM
Good, team ball is good

nba_55
12-24-2014, 05:11 PM
Nobody cares about the previous eras. Get back to the present dude, enjoy the present moment.

Rose'sACL
12-24-2014, 05:14 PM
Nobody cares about the previous eras. Get back to the present dude, enjoy the present moment.
but that would mean being happy which is just not the type of thing OP does.

oarabbus
12-24-2014, 05:15 PM
Nobody cares about the previous eras. Get back to the present dude, enjoy the present moment.

OP's delorean broke down he's stuck firmly in the past

Hey Yo
12-24-2014, 05:15 PM
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Being allowed to camp in the lane made it less effective.. defenders barely had to move when the ball was swung - they could remain stationary and just turn their head and body like a swivel chair.

That's why it sometimes looks like defenders are just standing there in previous eras, rather than moving their feet.

Defenders also didn't have to move as much because the 3-point line wasn't used, so offensive players were closer to the basket on average and had less room to go anywhere for the defenders to need to move... indeed, the defense had all the advantages back in previous eras.

But in today's game with defensive 3 seconds, players must stay out of the lane, so when the ball is swung, defenders actually have to move from one side of the paint all the way to the other - advantage offense... this is in addition to defenders having to cover more ground by guarding the 3-point line, which forces them to need to move more when guarding their man.

it's intuitive.. :confusedshrug:
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How long does it take for a 7 footer / rim protector to get from one side of the paint, all the way to the other side of the paint?

el gringos
12-24-2014, 05:46 PM
Except for the whole part about getting a post defender that is fronting the post to your guys back or a guy on his back sealed off for a lob over the top.

Part of what you wrote made sense but the thesis of your post is wrong. Swinging the ball has always been an important and effective part of offensive basketball.

Droid101
12-24-2014, 05:48 PM
long enough to make an open layup
Go watch the Celtics defense in 2008. There were no open layups.

Hey Yo
12-24-2014, 05:52 PM
long enough to make an open layup
You have Mod powers?

Edited your original answer and the thread goes back to the top of the page?

:coleman:

navy
12-24-2014, 05:56 PM
You have Mod powers?

Edited your original answer and the thread goes back to the top of the page?

:coleman:
No he deletes his comments then post new comments that say pretty much the exact same thing.

Hey Yo
12-24-2014, 06:00 PM
No he deletes his comments then post new comments that say pretty much the exact same thing.
But that still wouldn't cause the thread to go to the top of the page. You can't just delete your post like it was never made, you're only able to edit it.

navy
12-24-2014, 06:03 PM
There I just did it.

3ball
12-26-2014, 04:38 AM
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Playoff Averages Thru Age 29:

JORDAN: 36 PPG / 7 APG / 50% FG / 35.2% 3 PT

LEBRON: 28 PPG / 6 APG / 48% FG / 33.3% 3 PT


Finals Averages Thru Age 29:

JORDAN: 36 PPG / 8 APG / 53% FG / 41% 3 PT

LEBRON: 24 PPG / 6 APG / 46% FG / 31% 3 PT


Source: basketball-reference.com
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J Shuttlesworth
12-26-2014, 04:39 AM
OP making Lazerus look like Justin Bieber

3ball
12-26-2014, 06:00 AM
swinging the ball just wasn't as effective a tactic without spacing.
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SpanishACB
12-26-2014, 07:33 AM
Disco music was very effective in previous years

what are these threads supposed to show? that you have a pair of eyes that you employ to do history revision and pretend to be some sort of guru?

La Frescobaldi
12-26-2014, 08:14 AM
Disco music was very effective in previous years

what are these threads supposed to show? that you have a pair of eyes that you employ to do history revision and pretend to be some sort of guru?

disco is the direct mother and father and uncle and aunt of dub step and modern techno.... Swedish House, Flo & the Machine and all that is pure ramped up disco in fact the only difference is the timbres are better with modern computers and of course vocals now have that grating annoying pitch correction which doesn't breathe at all so i dont know what that was rly

3ball
12-26-2014, 02:45 PM
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GimmeThat
12-26-2014, 02:54 PM
Its as effective as setting picks for off ball plays