Cavs Vs Pistons

[StrongLurk]

Good Game:cheers:

[StrongLurk]

Side Note - Wouldn't surprise me if 75 percent of Lebron's turnovers came in the first quarter. Delladova also continues to be the worst player in the NBA.

[SpecialQue]

Lebron currently leading his team in everything.

[BigTicket]

I like the effort from Love so far, especially on defense. If he can keep that up the Cavs will win.

[Mr. Jabbar]

the teams this colluding pos gets to play against on a daily basis is disgusting

[StrongLurk]

the teams this colluding pos gets to play against on a daily basis is disgusting

Cavs have played the 5th hardest schedule so far this year. But the East is worse than the West, that's not debatable.

[francesco totti]

Cavs have played the 5th hardest schedule so far this year. But the East is worse than the West, that's not debatable.

based on what, 5th hardest schedule?

dont see much difference between their schedule , atlanta wizards or toronto.but i think bulls played the toughest.

[StrongLurk]

based on what, 5th hardest schedule?

dont see much difference between their schedule , atlanta wizards or toronto.but i think bulls played the toughest.

W/L total of opponents

[francesco totti]

W/L total of opponents

yeh, but i think playing road games vs a team with 15 - 15 record is harder then playing at home vs a team with record 18 - 12...

bulls played like 17 games on road, 4 - 5 more then cavs...

[StrongLurk]

Might be an ACL for Marion.

[francesco totti]

shawn marion injured. so now marion, irving and and varejao all out for cavs.

[StrongLurk]

yeh, but i think playing road games vs a team with 15 - 15 record is harder then playing at home vs a team with record 18 - 12...

bulls played like 17 games on road, 4 - 5 more then cavs...

It's a very basic way of looking at it, just posting what was shown during the game.

[edrick]

the teams this colluding pos gets to play against on a daily basis is disgusting

Cavs have the 6th hardest strength of schedule. The 5 teams with a harder strength of schedule are all under .500, but keep spewing your nonsense.

[BigTicket]

Matrix missing the open layup, and injuring himself while doing it.:facepalm

[francesco totti]

Matrix missing the open layup, and injuring himself while doing it.:facepalm

missed a lebron assist in proces.



its now 3 point game, was 15 point game at one point.

[StrongLurk]

Waiters averaging about 3 And 1 yells per game :lol

[Fudge]

:roll:

[francesco totti]

22 point turnaround. from 15 down, pistons leading by 7 now

[ABG]

pistons turning it up

[SexSymbol]

Damn do the cavs suck or what

[D-Wait]

Damn do the cavs suck or what

yes :mad:

[poido123]

Good game to watch.


Pistons went on a mad run there.

[Rake2204]

Jonas Jerebko doesn't have the skill capabilities to match Josh Smith's highest potential impact. However, Jerebko's impact far exceeds what Smith was bringing to the table all season. He takes less shots than Smith, but makes many more - and he has no disillusions of taking a defensive rebound coast to coast before attempting a behind-the-back pass.

[BigTicket]

Horrible 2nd quarter for the Cavs, mostly due to 3 point shooting. Cavs shooting 24% vs 57% from the Pistons, and most of the Cavs shots were wide open.

[JohnMax]

Refs keeping Cavs in the game

[poido123]

What happened to all the Lebron stans piggybacking every Cavs gamethread?


I saw them early on, what happened?

[BigTicket]

Refs keeping Cavs in the game

Clearly you are not actually watching the game.

[BigTicket]

What happened to all the Lebron stans piggybacking every Cavs gamethread?


I saw them early on, what happened?

Same thing that always happens with bandwagoners.

[poido123]

Same thing that always happens with bandwagoners.


The first sign of the team sucking, they run.


Good to see the real fans still hanging in there. :applause:

[francesco totti]

lebron is 3 - 12 and 4 turnovers.

pistons up 10.

[ABG]

jennings :bowdown:

[francesco totti]

lebron keeps jacking shots this game. a bit more of team play needed?

thompson is crazy good on offensive rebounds.

[RedBlackAttack]

The sleepwalk continues...

Love's jumper is way off. Also, another thing about Kevin I'm noticing is that he's horrible at getting set to draw charges which is actually a big part of today's drive and kick sets. He'll be in a position to draw a charge and then inexplicably shuffle his feet as the attacking player approaches. I've seen it happen at least a dozen times so far this year.

[ABG]

lol detroit gettin off

[Kiddlovesnets]

Lebron West 3-13 FG, what happens to him?
:wtf:

[francesco totti]

pistons have scored 12 3 pointers now lol..

[Top Gun]

Really poor from the Cavs, was expecting them to have gelled by now.

[francesco totti]

considering cavs led by 15 at one point, now pistons lead by 15..

30 point turnaround.

[RedBlackAttack]

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Get back soon, Kyrie. :(

[StrongLurk]

It's become pretty obvious this year that Lebron isn't the best player in the NBA anymore.

[francesco totti]

you think cavs were better off hiring a more experienced coach then a coach completly new to the nba?

early signs off the year not looking good.

[BigTicket]

3s continue to kill the Cavs. Same amounts of shots from both teams, but the Pistons have made 12 while the Cavs only have 4. That's a 24 point difference ...

[poido123]

Wow.


Where did the game go :eek:

[francesco totti]

lebron 4 - 16 ,4 turnovers..

[RedBlackAttack]

It's become pretty obvious this year that Lebron isn't the best player in the NBA anymore.
I have to agree, at least so far. I've never seen LeBron play as sloppy as he has this year. He has 4 turnovers already tonight and that has been a trend.

[StrongLurk]

I'd take 4 or 5 players over Lebron this season.

[ABG]

so has lebron's chill mode been deactivated yet?

[stalkerforlife]

Kyle Singler is very underrated as a defender.

Dude can lock you up.

[TylerOO]

LeBron sucks my daddys dick

[Magic 32]

I'm more and more convinced that the old Cavs team was better for Lebron (as in better built for his weaknesses and strengths).

This team looks like a more talented version of the 2006 Lakers.

[RedBlackAttack]

Delly is a nice role player off the bench who can provide good change-of-pace minutes, but when asked to do more than that, the results can be pretty ugly. That should have been an easy lob to TT, but he simply overshot him. His defense has also been shoddy. Not good.

[LoneyROY7]

Detroit playing like a legit NBA team without Josh Smith? Color me shocked.

[TylerOO]

LeBron was better off in Miami.

Never thought Id say that

[Ariza4three]

so has lebron's chill mode been deactivated yet?
Must be. His "douche" mode is still on though.

[Magic 32]

Must be. His "douche" mode is still on though.

His "douche" mode has been auto locked since 2008.

[BigTicket]

No doubt its been an awful game from Lebron, and subpar year so far. I'm confident he will bounce back though.

[RedBlackAttack]

No doubt its been an awful game from Lebron, and subpar year so far. I'm confident he will bounce back though.
I'm still pretty confident about that, too. But, I'd be lying if I said his sleepwalking around out there isn't concerning. His body language is awful and the rest of the team is following his lead.

[BigTicket]

Lebron just looks tired tonight.

[ABG]

brandon jennings aka michael jordan

[RedBlackAttack]

Tristan was not out of bounds there. Terrible call.

[Andrew Wiggins]

I'm still pretty confident about that, too. But, I'd be lying if I said his sleepwalking around out there isn't concerning. His body language is awful and the rest of the team is following his lead.

i really don't get it. maybe he just can't find the proper motivation during the regular season him after four straight finals appearances?

i don't remember him looking this lackadaisical for an extended period of time with the heat

[Magic 32]

It's become pretty obvious this year that Lebron isn't the best player in the NBA anymore.

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[TylerOO]

LeDecline

[StrongLurk]

http://cdn.rsvlts.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Kevin-Durant-GIF-05.gif

Goatbrook>Durant

[Magic 32]

Goatbrook>Durant

Not last year.

[HomieWeMajor]

Nice stats from Kevin Love

[LoneyROY7]

Give Bron and Blake their HGH back!

[StrongLurk]

Bran started out 3-5. 1 for his last 12 :facepalm

[VengefulAngel]

Lebron's body language has been terrible all night. Show some competitive spirit your team is getting hammered at home by Detroit.

Hopefully he starts the 4th to give him a chance to redeem himself.

[BigTicket]

LeDecline

He doesn't look old, he looks tired and disengaged.

Honestly, I think Lebron and Blatt don't get along, which means Blatt might be gone soon.

[TylerOO]

He doesn't look old, he looks tired and disengaged.

Honestly, I think Lebron and Blatt don't get along, which means Blatt might be gone soon.

I hope so. Who the **** is David Blatt? No name loser doesnt deserve to be able to coach LeBron

[Ariza4three]

wow if the refs didn't rape orlando in orlando the cavs would be on a 3 game losing streak

[Kiddlovesnets]

Greg Monroe 3-15 FG, and Cavs are still down 21.

[RedBlackAttack]

i really don't get it. maybe he just can't find the proper motivation during the regular season him after four straight finals appearances?

i don't remember him looking this lackadaisical for an extended period of time with the heat
It has also occurred to me that playing so many games in four consecutive years might be catching up with him, not just physically, but mentally. He's played basically the most amount of games you can possibly play in a season for four consecutive years.

I don't know... at a loss.

[MMM]

I really don't understand the effort level some teams display and Detroit is shooting 99% since I turned this game on

[Kiddlovesnets]

Pistons simply cannot miss.
:rolleyes:

[francesco totti]

everybody on the cavs team quit lol . from 15 up, to down 26 now..
its as one sided as it gets...

[VengefulAngel]

Well that escalated quickly, it honestly seems that Lebron is trying to get Blatt fired. It's the only thing that can explain his effort.

[Magic 32]

Never thought I would see the Pistons be up 25 points in any game this year.

:hammerhead:

[The Red Viper]

Why is Blatt bringing LeBron back? Keep him on the bench and take Love and TT off as well. Let them rest.

[Top Gun]

Lebron might give Pat Riley a call at this rate.

[LoneyROY7]

I hope so. Who the **** is David Blatt? No name loser doesnt deserve to be able to coach LeBron

Aren't you hibernating till June? These games don't matter.

[francesco totti]

It has also occurred to me that playing so many games in four consecutive years might be catching up with him, not just physically, but mentally. He's played basically the most amount of games you can possibly play in a season for four consecutive years.

I don't know... at a loss.


or maybe the heat had better coaching, and knew how to take the best out of him.

[JohnFreeman]

Cavs will make a run after asg

[Magic 32]

A 42 points swing!!!

[RedBlackAttack]

or maybe the heat had better coaching, and knew how to take the best out of him.
LeBron was awesome under Paul Silas, Mike Brown and Spo. Not exactly a who's who of coaching legends. Putting LeBron's disengaged demeanor on the coaches seems like a stretch.

[francesco totti]

Cavs will make a run after asg


i bookmark.they are not that good. they are down 26 to detroit, not golden state or san antonio.

[Fudge]

Destroyed. :oldlol:

You can sit on the bench now, LeBron. No need to statpad. This one is over.

[poido123]

lebron blocked then stripped :oldlol:

[Blue&Orange]

LeExcuses
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[Mr. Jabbar]

lestatpad :roll:

[VengefulAngel]

Lebron is getting blocked by white dudes, he can barely elevate.

[stalkerforlife]

Destroyed. :oldlol:

You can sit on the bench now, LeBron. No need to statpad. This one is over.

That's what he's been attempting the whole 4th quarter.

Shit is disgusting.

[alenleomessi]

can

[PistonsFan#21]

GG Cavs Fans :cheers:

[Magic 32]

3 TO's shy of a triple double..

fixed

[AirFederer]

The TO's :eek:
But the lack of a plan and urgency :eek: :eek:

[Uncle Drew]

3 assists shy of a triple double..
Empty stats.

[Batz]

What the f*ck happened here?

[D-Wait]

What the f*ck happened here?

The Cavs suck.

[VengefulAngel]

What the f*ck happened here?

Lebron was in chill mode.

Coasting.

[BigTicket]

What the f*ck happened here?

Cavs missed every shot in the 2nd, 3rd and 4th quarter, and they never looked like they cared.

[Batz]

Brandon Jennings 25 pts, 10-18 FG, 5-9 3PT?


Something gotta give...

[VengefulAngel]

Brandon Jennings 25 pts, 10-18 FG, 5-9 3PT?


Something gotta give...

He was on fire tonight, literally chucking contested shots and making all of them.

[Indian guy]

LeBron's decline as a player is so obvious this season. His quickness is OK, but he cannot elevate/explode in the paint at all. He's pretty much enitrely a below-the-rim player now.

[RedBlackAttack]

Brandon Jennings 25 pts, 10-18 FG, 5-9 3PT?


Something gotta give...
There's no explanation for the effort given today, but Matthew Dellavedova being the starting PG and playing virtually every minute while the game was still in doubt helps partially explain Jennings' big night. When you don't have to even really exert yourself defensively, any NBA player worth their salt is going to take advantage on the other end against a reserve.

[jrong]

Lol I guess LeBron is back in chill mode.

[VengefulAngel]

LeBron's decline as a player is so obvious this season. His quickness is OK, but he cannot elevate/explode in the paint at all. He's pretty much enitrely a below-the-rim player now.

He needs to get in the low post more, being entirely perimeter orientated isn't helping him at all for the exact reason's you've outlined.

[RedBlackAttack]

LeBron's decline as a player is so obvious this season. His quickness is OK, but he cannot elevate/explode in the paint at all. He's pretty much enitrely a below-the-rim player now.
Pretty much, but he is still an effective player when engaged. The problem hasn't been his lack of explosion, imo. It has been his effort and demeanor when things get remotely difficult. It looks like he shuts himself down and his teammates/coaches out.

Maybe that's not the case, but it sure looks like it.

[jayfan]

Cutting Smith might end up winning Van Gundy GM of the year!






.

[poido123]

Cutting Smith might end up winning Van Gundy GM of the year!



It deserves to pay off.


Such a ballsy move and one I think should open a path to other primadonna high payed ballers not taking for granted their spot on a roster.

[Heavincent]

Time to admit it: the Cavs are slightly above average. Nothing more.

Not even hating, but their defense is unfixable, and the supporting cast around the big 3 is weak. No rim protection, no elite perimeter defenders, etc. Irving, Bran, and Love are enough to win them some regular season games, but they're not a title contender by any means.

[Andrew Wiggins]

It deserves to pay off.


Such a ballsy move and one I think should open a path to other primadonna high payed ballers not taking for granted their spot on a roster.

how so? if anything it enables them. play like shit and stop caring and force a team to waive you. now you're essentially an unrestricted FA and can make even more money

[KG215]

Time to admit it: the Cavs are slightly above average. Nothing more.

Not even hating, but their defense is unfixable, and the supporting cast around the big 3 is weak. No rim protection, no elite perimeter defenders, etc. Irving, Bran, and Love are enough to win them some regular season games, but they're not a title contender by any means.
And even when fully healthy their bench is pretty terrible, too. But yeah, the Cavs this year are like a worse version of the 2011 Heat who also had a pretty crap supporting cast around LeBron, Wade, and Bosh. But 2011 LeBron was better than 2015 LeBron, and 2011 Wade was one of the 2-3 best players in the league, and neither Love nor Kyrie are anywhere close to as good as 2011 Wade.

[BigTicket]

Time to admit it: the Cavs are slightly above average. Nothing more.

Not even hating, but their defense is unfixable, and the supporting cast around the big 3 is weak. No rim protection, no elite perimeter defenders, etc. Irving, Bran, and Love are enough to win them some regular season games, but they're not a title contender by any means.

I'm not buying that. It's true that the Cavs have been mediocre so far, but it's not at all true that they can't be something more.

The problem right now is that the Cavs, starting with Lebron, just do not seem to care, and there is no system on offense or defense.

[Rake2204]

There's no explanation for the effort given today, but Matthew Dellavedova being the starting PG and playing virtually every minute while the game was still in doubt helps partially explain Jennings' big night. When you don't have to even really exert yourself defensively, any NBA player worth their salt is going to take advantage on the other end against a reserve.I think that played a pretty big role, not just in terms of relaxing on defense, but probably just from a mentality standpoint. Jennings sometimes strikes me as the type of guy who thrives most when he knows he has the upper hand. As cocky as he can seem sometimes, it feels like he can get shook by big time opposing challenges.

Then again, I have zero basis for that claim so... I could just be completely wrong, haha.

[chips93]

Time to admit it: the Cavs are slightly above average. Nothing more.

Not even hating, but their defense is unfixable, and the supporting cast around the big 3 is weak. No rim protection, no elite perimeter defenders, etc. Irving, Bran, and Love are enough to win them some regular season games, but they're not a title contender by any means.

this

barring a trade of course

we just dont have the personnel to be a good defensive team, even if lebron were get back to his previous level of defense. kyrie and love are giving decent effort, but they just arent long/athletic/smart enough to be great defenders.

with that said, there is a clear ceiling on this team. we could outscore some teams to get to the ECF, but the bulls, wizards, and raptors should handle this team easily.

[RedBlackAttack]

Time to admit it: the Cavs are slightly above average. Nothing more.

Not even hating, but their defense is unfixable, and the supporting cast around the big 3 is weak. No rim protection, no elite perimeter defenders, etc. Irving, Bran, and Love are enough to win them some regular season games, but they're not a title contender by any means.
At this stage of the season, that's a completely reasonable and fair assessment. I wholeheartedly agree.

As was stated above, though... that's fair right now. There's plenty of time and talent to work with.

[andremiller07]

The Suns/Pelicans/Kings at full strength >>>Cavs at full strength

Aside from 1 quality win against a fully healthy Hawks team, all there wins have been against teams missing either there best or 2nd best player or are just garbage in general. They beat the Raps twice without DD, they beat the Wizards without Nene. They beat the Bulls without Butler and Rose went down......

What was there last impressive win aside from the Hawks game where they beat a quality HEALTHY team?