So Blake Griffin has become a Small Forward...

[Kiddlovesnets]

Hes averaging 22/7/5, and his playing style has been essentially mid-range jumpers nowadays. What happened to him? Thought he finally started to improve something in last season, and now no one can be sure anymore.

And where would you rank Griffin at the SF position? Is he top 5 or top 10 SF in the league?
:lol

[TheMarkMadsen]

He's too soft to play down low anymore. He didnt like the physicality. That's the reason for all the jumpers

[fpliii]

Definitely a top 10 player in the league (probably was top 5 the last year or two). Has really improved his jumper and defense these past couple seasons.

[Kiddlovesnets]

Definitely a top 10 player in the league (probably was top 5 the last year or two). Has really improved his jumper and defense these past couple seasons.

Oh yeah, and of course his rebounding numbers and skills have declined to be at about the same level as Brook Lopez.
:rolleyes:

[fpliii]

Oh yeah, and of course his rebounding numbers and skills have declined to be at about the same level as Brook Lopez.
:rolleyes:
Box score stats are based on role and opportunity. I don't know what you're talking about with regards to the bolded, his skillset is very respectable, more than it's ever been.

Very strange post.

[chocolatethunder]

Oh yeah, and of course his rebounding numbers and skills have declined to be at about the same level as Brook Lopez.
:rolleyes:
Did you see the guy who's playing next to him? As DJs rebounding numbers go up, Blake's go down. It's normal. Only on ISH can this happen. "Griffin is only a dunker he has no game." That morphs into "Blake has no game he just shoots midrange jumpers." Ok whatever. I don't even like LA or Blake but give it up people.

[Micku]

Don't know why his rebounding decrease. Maybe it's partly because of DJ rebounding like a beast, but the Clippers as a whole team are a bit below league average even tho they shouldn't be.

[qrich]

Oh yeah, and of course his rebounding numbers and skills have declined to be at about the same level as Brook Lopez.
:rolleyes:

Let's ignore Jordan grabbing 13.7 (14.5) boards per game while Blake's numbers have dropped to Brook Lopez level.

Here's Brook Lopez's highest rebounding mate in reverse chronological order, with per36 in ( ).

Garnett: 7.6 (12.2)
Garnett: 6.6 (11.6)
Evans: 11.1 (16.3)
Humphries: 11.0 (11.3)
Humphries: 10.4 (13.5)
Jianlin: 7.2 (8.1)
Jianlin: 5.3 (8.3)

So, in seven years, only ONCE has Brook had his highest teammate average more rebounds per 36, but never has anyone came close to Jordan these past two years in per game, while Brook has never eclipsed 8.6 per game or 9.6 per 36.


Idiotic comparison from an idiotic poster.

[BasedTom]

Somebody needs to tell him that the midrange/jumper is a nice asset to have, but shouldn't be his go to move. He's not Lamarcus Aldridge.

[Micku]

Did you see the guy who's playing next to him? As DJs rebounding numbers go up, Blake's go down. It's normal. Only on ISH can this happen. "Griffin is only a dunker he has no game." That morphs into "Blake has no game he just shoots midrange jumpers." Ok whatever. I don't even like LA or Blake but give it up people.

Last year Blake averaged 9.5 rbs while DJ averaged 13.6 rbs. This year Blake is avveraging 7.8 while DJ is averaging 13.7. DJ is playing one minute less, so he is rebounding at a better rate than he was last year. But Blake should still get about 9 rbs. I don't know what's up.

In terms of offensive game, Blake had it more right last year imo. This year he is taking too many jumpers. 37.6% of his shots are 16ft-below the 3pt line compared to last year when it was 26.7%. He used to attack the basket more last year.

[navy]

Somebody needs to tell him that the midrange/jumper is a nice asset to have, but shouldn't be his go to move. He's not Lamarcus Aldridge.
This. Save it for bailout shots and tough defenses. Dont seek it out.

[konex]

DeAndre Jordan happened

[Fiasco]

Last year Blake averaged 9.5 rbs while DJ averaged 13.6 rbs. This year Blake is avveraging 7.8 while DJ is averaging 13.7. DJ is playing one minute less, so he is rebounding at a better rate than he was last year. But Blake should still get about 9 rbs. I don't know what's up.


In terms of offensive game, Blake had it more right last year imo. This year he is taking too many jumpers. 37.6% of his shots are 16ft-below the 3pt line compared to last year when it was 26.7%. He used to attack the basket more last year.

You've answered your own question. Blake plays away from the basket far too much now. Less opportunity to grab boards.

Conversely, DJ's average distance from the basket per field goal is like 1.2 feet.

[Kiddlovesnets]

Last year Blake averaged 9.5 rbs while DJ averaged 13.6 rbs. This year Blake is avveraging 7.8 while DJ is averaging 13.7. DJ is playing one minute less, so he is rebounding at a better rate than he was last year. But Blake should still get about 9 rbs. I don't know what's up.

In terms of offensive game, Blake had it more right last year imo. This year he is taking too many jumpers. 37.6% of his shots are 16ft-below the 3pt line compared to last year when it was 26.7%. He used to attack the basket more last year.

Yeah this is a good point. Its stupid to blame DJ for Griffin's lack of rebounding. So Omar Asik is in New Orleans, and did we see a significant decline in Anthony Davis rebounding number? What I see from Griffinstans bringing up DJ is nothing but excuse, its excuse.
:sleeping

[GimmeThat]

Somebody needs to tell him that the midrange/jumper is a nice asset to have, but shouldn't be his go to move. He's not Lamarcus Aldridge.


Stationary 3s. and the dunks.
I mean, we all understand the eventual comparsion of him developing a KG turn around J.

But a battier who relies more on help defense behind for him to recover on the play for potential blocks.


Mobile bigs

[Kiddlovesnets]

Stationary 3s. and the dunks.
I mean, we all understand the eventual comparsion of him developing a KG turn around J.

But a battier who relies more on help defense behind for him to recover on the play for potential blocks.


Mobile bigs

Oh so hes being compared to KG? I thought he had become the next Antoine Walker, both started as power forwards but somehow made the transition to small forwards, and both averaged more assists than they are supposed to while giving up rebounding. The difference is though, Walker is a better shooter and he can make threes. I doubt Griffin will become a better SF than Walker though.
:sleeping

[qrich]

Yeah this is a good point. Its stupid to blame DJ for Griffin's lack of rebounding. So Omar Asik is in New Orleans, and did we see a significant decline in Anthony Davis rebounding number? What I see from Griffinstans bringing up DJ is nothing but excuse, its excuse.
:sleeping

Dropping to the level of someone like Brook Lopez, for an athletic like Griffin is inexcusable, but the emergence of Jordan is understandable why a drop has occurred, should not be at this level.


Somebody needs to tell him that the midrange/jumper is a nice asset to have, but shouldn't be his go to move. He's not Lamarcus Aldridge.

Yup, dude looks like Memo out there with all these pick and pops, not rolling anymore.

[Genaro]

He should go back to his old game. Or at least to what he was doing at the end of last season, I thought he would do something like 25/10/4 this year.

[Fudge]

I like Blake, but until he shows that he can dominate every opposing big with his newly refined post skills and athleticism, his team isn't going anywhere.

Dude is probably one of the most athletically gifted players the NBA has seen but he's too afraid to use it. What a waste.

[Bay Area Baller]

I like CJ Miles and Parsons at SF over Blake, they pass it around the perimeter and take less contested shots

[NZStreetBaller]

Yeah i think that all the criticism of him being only a dunker and cant do anything else, has made him go completely the other way rather then just adding the jumper hes made it his primary move.

In other words go back to smashing it down on defenders heads GIFFIN!!!

[LONGTIME]

I like Blake, but until he shows that he can dominate every opposing big with his newly refined post skills and athleticism, his team isn't going anywhere.

Dude is probably one of the most athletically gifted players the NBA has seen but he's too afraid to use it. What a waste.

:kobe:

[ihatetimthomas]

Blake Griffin has become a better all around player. A player who is extermely versatile. Very few players have his size and skillset. He is a elite passing big man, has developed a midrange jumper and can dominate offensively. His boards are down but its likely bc of deandre gobbling up the boards and he plays away from the rim at times. But to act like he hasnt improved is ridic bc he has evloved as a player. I really think he is going to continue to have a strong year and will be a bigger impact in the playoffs.

[navy]

"All he does is Dunk."

Now he never dunks. :yaohappy:

[ZMonkey11]

It's simple. The man realized he needs to start conserving his body now so he can prolong his career. Jump shots keep you in the league. He wants those pay checks.

[Micku]

You've answered your own question. Blake plays away from the basket far too much now. Less opportunity to grab boards.

Conversely, DJ's average distance from the basket per field goal is like 1.2 feet.

It's more of his defensive rebounds than his opportunity to for offensive boards. Last year, his defensive rebounds were 7.1. This year it's 5.8. His offensive rebounds last year was 2.4, and this year is 2.0. DJ ain't taking that many rebounds from Blake and on defense, he is guarding PFs and stuff. I don't know what's going on in terms of rebounding for him and the all Clipper team apart from DJ (he's a beast). Griffin should at least be getting 9ish rebounds. It might be their defense or pace. I dunno.

Whatever it is, I feel like they should be rebounding more.

[ElPigto]

Last year Blake averaged 9.5 rbs while DJ averaged 13.6 rbs. This year Blake is avveraging 7.8 while DJ is averaging 13.7. DJ is playing one minute less, so he is rebounding at a better rate than he was last year. But Blake should still get about 9 rbs. I don't know what's up.

In terms of offensive game, Blake had it more right last year imo. This year he is taking too many jumpers. 37.6% of his shots are 16ft-below the 3pt line compared to last year when it was 26.7%. He used to attack the basket more last year.

For those bringing up DJ's awesomeness at rebounding, could you please stop ignoring what was said above. If he is taking more jumpers and playing away from the basket then I guess I can understand the drop, but there has to be more to it. Are his perimeter teammates getting more rebounds this year? Is Blake leaking out for the fast break? What's actually going on?

[Micku]

For those bringing up DJ's awesomeness at rebounding, could you please stop ignoring what was said above. If he is taking more jumpers and playing away from the basket then I guess I can understand the drop, but there has to be more to it. Are his perimeter teammates getting more rebounds this year? Is Blake leaking out for the fast break? What's actually going on?

That would affect the offensive rebounds, but not the defensive ones. There is a drop in defensive rebounding for him this year compared to last year.

I don't know what's going on, but you might be right that he might leak for the fast break instead of getting the rebound or something. I don't know what is Doc Rivers telling him to do tho. BG seems capable of at least getting 9, but he isn't doing it this year.

[navy]

Lost his hgh, give the players time to beat the test.

[T_L_P]

Can't say I'm surprised at the lack of team success with this pansy as the co-star.

[Pointguard]

Chris Paul sat out a few games last year and Blake found his way and played great the rest of the way. Chris Paul has to be reminded of how good Blake can play. I'm sure if Paul misses a few games, Blake will have better numbers. If Paul makes a priority out of highlighting Blake, Blake will have better results. Its not going to happen otherwise and they can't win this way.

[bdreason]

Clippers offense gets him the ball one step in from the 3-point line. The offense should be getting Blake touches on the low and high post... not one step in from the 3-point line.

[bdreason]

And some of Blake's defensive rebounding numbers are down because the Clippers simply aren't getting stops. You have to stop the other team from scoring to get defensive rebounds.

I'd like to see the Clippers total defensive rebounds per game compared to last season.

[Micku]

And some of Blake's defensive rebounding numbers are down because the Clippers simply aren't getting stops. You have to stop the other team from scoring to get defensive rebounds.

I'd like to see the Clippers total defensive rebounds per game compared to last season.

Yeah, that may contribute to his lack of rebounding too. They are worst defensively this year than they were last year so far.

Anyway, the Clips defensive rebounding last year was 32.5 per game. This year it's 31.2 per game.

I dunno what's going on.

[SillyRabbit]

Blake is extremely soft.

It's a shame because he's also extremely skilled.

Last season he was a top 5 player in the league.

Sad to see him shy away from the rough stuff with the athleticism and size that he has.