Jimmy Butler: 26/8/8 2 steals [Archive] - Message Board Basketball Forum

DMAVS41

01-02-2015, 01:26 AM

Dude has been amazing so far.

22/6/3 on 60% TS and elite defense?

Dude is turning into one of the best perimeter players in the league.

And I thought the Bulls were stacked before I knew he'd basically be Paul George this year.

Damn...

mehyaM24

01-02-2015, 01:29 AM

yeah, rose has regressed a ton this season. i dont rate him in the FIRST TIER of nba point guards (curry, westbrook and paul). lilard, rose, rondo, and wall all makeup that SECOND TIER imo.

but ya - jimmy buckets doe. great season thus far! saw an espn special on him a while back, and since, i've been pulling for him. good kid.

Roundball_Rock

01-02-2015, 01:32 AM

And I thought the Bulls were stacked before I knew he'd basically be Paul George this year.

Damn...

Plus no one expected Gasol to be putting up 18/11 with 2.2 blocks per game. If we stay healthy...:party:

That said, regarding the OP, Rose was extremely clutch in the fourth quarter and secured the win. I believe Rose had 15 points in the final frame. :bowdown:

DMAVS41

01-02-2015, 01:33 AM

97 bulls

01-02-2015, 01:51 AM

Butler has really come a long way. And Gasol? Can we ask for better under the circumstances? Especially once continuity is established, which has been hard due to injuries

Springsteen

01-02-2015, 01:58 AM

Hopefully him and D-Rose take the Bulls all the way. I don't hate Lebron but it'd be refreshing to see a different team in the finals from the East.

keep-itreal

01-02-2015, 02:08 AM

poor man's Kawhi Leonard

Pointguard

01-02-2015, 03:23 AM

Plus no one expected Gasol to be putting up 18/11 with 2.2 blocks per game. If we stay healthy...:party:

That said, regarding the OP, Rose was extremely clutch in the fourth quarter and secured the win. I believe Rose had 15 points in the final frame. :bowdown:
Its the fourth game Rose has take over in the fourth quarter - he's struggling in the earlier quarters tho.

Butler is the biggest surprise. Has all around game and Tiger mentality. Gasol is rejuvenated and happy to be on the floor. Both Noah and Gibson have been off their games as of late but that's ok, there is time to iron that out.

They also sometimes play really flat at home. They played plenty more games on the road but they need to get that together on this home stand.

SamuraiSWISH

01-02-2015, 03:45 AM

Undisputed

01-02-2015, 03:58 AM

Rose 17/3/8 on 7-25 shooting

Butler>
If that turns out to be so, then I will not be upset.

Rose is slumping, and may never be the guy he once was, but that does not mean he can not provide quality minutes until he figures out life after knee surgeries as a pro athlete. I still can see him doing big things in big moment.

Milbuck

01-02-2015, 04:09 AM

Rose shook off a horrendous start shooting the ball, kept his poise and confidence and dominated the 2nd half. Particularly in the 4th quarter. Did you even watch the game, or just follow the box score?
Even if we only go by the box score, it shouldn't mean much. Dude has a 9 game stretch putting up 21 ppg on 47% shooting, no one says a thing. But then he struggles in that 10th game and suddenly the "he's done" stuff comes up again.

SamuraiSWISH

01-02-2015, 04:11 AM

Even if we only go by the box score, it shouldn't mean much. Dude has a 9 game stretch putting up 21 ppg on 47% shooting, no one says a thing. But then he struggles in that 10th game and suddenly the "he's done" stuff comes up again.
For some reason people have an unnecessary hatred of D-Rose. Why? I don't know.

I exposed it when I called out Derrick for basically out playing the universally praised John Wall in their most recent head to head before Christmas. Rose is on minutes ristrictions, and is clearly coasting. His refusal to drive as much as he probably could is the primary evidence.

Tonight in the second half he said eff it, and took it to the rack. Consequently dominated the crucial stretch in crunch time. Shades of 2011 MVP Derrick.

Jyap9675

01-02-2015, 04:40 AM

If only deng was still in the team..

Micku

01-02-2015, 05:26 AM

If only deng was still in the team..

You're asking for too much. Stop being greedy damn it.

But for real, I have not seen a single Bulls game. Well, not a full game. I gott'a start watching. Gasol resurrection and Butler's raise is something that seems must TV. How are they not first place in the East tho?

mehyaM24

01-02-2015, 05:31 AM

You're asking for too much. Stop being greedy damn it.

But for real, I have not seen a single Bulls game. Well, not a full game. I gott'a start watching. Gasol resurrection and Butler's raise is something that seems must TV. How are they not first place in the East tho?

he's gonna be their next star, with or without rose's health - and assuming the salary cap increases (as expected), the bulls re-signing jimmy wont be an issue, especially considering he's stated he wanted to be a bulls lifer.

bulls management isn't cheap, and you would hope NOT that stupid either.

T_L_P

01-02-2015, 05:47 AM

Not going at you OP, but I'm so tired of people saying "1.5-2 steals a game, so you know he's doing it on both ends."

I heard the Bulls commentators say it twice yesterday, and most commentators do the same for other high steals players.

There are much better ways to qualify/recognise good defense. Most of the 2+ steals players are just gamblers anyway, which leaves their teammates in bad spots.

That said, Butler is a beast, on both ends. He's got my vote for All-NBA 1st Team (along with Curry, Harden, Davis and Gasol).

Bandito

01-02-2015, 06:03 AM

If only deng was still in the team..
With Deng there is not enough money for Gasol.

andremiller07

01-02-2015, 08:06 AM

With Deng there is not enough money for Gasol.
Plus they need Mike D for the floor spacing

freshperry

01-02-2015, 11:47 AM

D rose had a superstar 4th quarter... lets not compare butler and rose. Ive also noticed that butler is getting alot of fast break finishes that rose woulda normally got 2-3 yrs ago. Rose is looking to get the assist on the fast break and thats leading to like 4-6 points every game going butlers way. On another note, butlers fadeaway is so nice on the eye. Its not like Kobe's amazing footwork but butler makes that 1 half turn fade and its buckets

themurph

01-02-2015, 11:50 AM

Rose shook off a horrendous start shooting the ball, kept his poise and confidence and dominated the 2nd half. Particularly in the 4th quarter. Did you even watch the game, or just follow the box score?

This^^^^^

People do a lot of box score bobbying on this site. Rose delivered when it counted....In the second half of the game he showed his ass....

That said, I'm glad Jimmy has taken the reigns as the leading scorer...And Rose is as well given that for years it was Rose-Or-Bust for the Bulls. Now Rose has someone he can lean on instead of depending on Keith Bogan....

Bigsmoke

01-02-2015, 01:35 PM

poor man's Kawhi Leonard

That's not a bad thing.

ImKobe

01-02-2015, 01:36 PM

He's what people thought Kawhi would become in the future, but he's already eclipsed him at this point.

Bigsmoke

01-02-2015, 01:39 PM

He's what people thought Kawhi would become in the future, but he's already eclipsed him at this point.

Kawhi took me by surprise too.

I think Kawhi I is still better tho

Roundball_Rock

01-02-2015, 03:12 PM

How are they not first place in the East tho?

A 15-9 start, due to injuries to key players and adjusting to the key additions of Gasol, and essentially also Rose. With Rose, Gasol, Butler and Noah all on the court the Bulls have been rolling. I expect the Bulls to be in 1st by the end of the month. :cheers: