Durant will repeat as MVP

[Joyner82reload]

Let's go ahead and get this out of the way, he will end up winning the award while only playing 60~ games

[JohnFreeman]

Nah, Harden or Curry

[Fudge]

It really isn't close either. He's proved it both, in any way you cut it, last season and so far, this year.

[KDthunderup]

KD will put up better stats then Harden and Curry but will sadly miss out after missing too many games. Everyone knows he is the best player in the league anyway though.

[plowking]

He isn't even top 10, nor is he the MVP of his own team.

[Joyner82reload]

KD will put up better stats then Harden and Curry but will sadly miss out after missing too many games. Everyone knows he is the best player in the league anyway though.

Wrong. Even though the terrible record was partially due to Westbrook being out, the narrative will be the Thunder went 8-15 without Durant and 46-14~ with him.

[Thunderfan86]

He isn't even top 10, nor is he the MVP of his own team.
Here we go with this shit again :facepalm

[KDthunderup]

He isn't even top 10, nor is he the MVP of his own team.
ok :oldlol:

[CelticBaller]

It's Durant's league now boys

It never to late to join the Durant Clan :applause:

[Twiens]

Already ahead of Lebron :oldlol:

[plowking]

Here we go with this shit again :facepalm

There is another guy on his team who has been more efficient, plays more minutes every night,has played double the games and puts up better numbers. How is he the MVP of his team?

Go ahead and explain to me.

[Twiens]

There is another guy on his team who has been more efficient, plays more minutes every night,has played double the games and puts up better numbers. How is he the MVP of his team?

Go ahead and explain to me.


I love Russ but more efficient than KD? You stupid?

[plowking]

ok :oldlol:

So a player that has played 10 games, and has another guy on his team who averages more points, rebounds and assists is in the top 10 in league MVP standings?

Not to mention his team isn't even in contention for playoffs at the moment.

You're all deluded.

[sportjames23]

Let's go ahead and get this out of the way, he will end up winning the award while only playing 60~ games


Durant...or his mother? Remember, she's the real MVP.

[Joyner82reload]

There is another guy on his team who has been more efficient, plays more minutes every night,has played double the games and puts up better numbers. How is he the MVP of his team?

Go ahead and explain to me.

You do realize that after tonight, Durant is now leading the NBA in PER, WSp48, and he ranks 3rd in TS% behind Tyson Chandler/Korver? He is also 2nd behind Harden in scoring, which is hilarious seeing as he's averaging less than 30 MPG.

[plowking]

I love Russ but more efficient than KD? You stupid?

Overall, not in terms of shooting. He gets more done on the court in the time given.

[CelticBaller]

There is another guy on his team who has been more efficient, plays more minutes every night,has played double the games and puts up better numbers. How is he the MVP of his team?

Go ahead and explain to me.
lol

[JohnFreeman]

Nice regular season stats.

[MJistheGOAT]

If he continue at this rate, with this stats and a nice record for the rest of season, he should be MVP. Lebron has no chance.

Maybe those fake MVP candidates (Harden, Curry, etc) will get it only for more games played. But it

[CelticBaller]

Nice regular season stats.
Durant averages 28 8 4 1 1 on 46% from the field in the playoffs :roll:

[JohnFreeman]

Durant averages 28 8 4 1 1 on 46% from the field in the playoffs :roll:
Meh, that's not that great. Tony Allen and CP3 put a defensive clinic on him.

[Thunderfan86]

There is another guy on his team who has been more efficient, plays more minutes every night,has played double the games and puts up better numbers. How is he the MVP of his team?

Go ahead and explain to me.
I actually get what you're trying to say, or the point you're trying to get across......but come on bruh. Let's be real......you and I both know who the real MVP is.

[KDthunderup]

Nice regular season stats.
Do we need to post Brans 2011 finals stats? Or even his 2007 finals stats?

[JohnFreeman]

I actually get what you're trying to say, or the point you're trying to get across......but come on bruh. Let's be real......you and I both know who the real MVP is.
Gasol?

[JohnFreeman]

Do we need to post Brans 2011 finals stats? Or even his 2007 finals stats?
Not sure what LeBron has to do with this. Rent free doe.

[CelticBaller]

Meh, that's not that great. Tony Allen and CP3 put a defensive clinic on him.
that's not great? by comparison Wade averages 23 5 5 1 1 on 48% and Wade was known to be a great playoff performer

and tf you're talking about, he lit up the clippers

[rlsmooth775]

that's not great? by comparison Wade averages 23 5 5 1 1 on 48% and Wade was known to be a great playoff performer

and tf you're talking about, he lit up the clippers

Not really except 2006 when was wade a great playoff performer

[Joyner82reload]

Meh, that's not that great. Tony Allen and CP3 put a defensive clinic on him.

Makes sense...which is why he averaged 31.4/9.5/4.3 on 57.4 TS% in those series :facepalm

[JohnFreeman]

Makes sense...which is why he averaged 31.4/9.5/4.3 on 57.4 TS% in those series :facepalm
http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/files/2014/05/leonard-spin-move.gif

[Joyner82reload]

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/files/2014/05/leonard-spin-move.gif

The guy that literally won the Finals MVP when guarded by LeBron James...ya, ok bro

Leonard vs Durant: 11.8/5.5/2.5 48.7 TS%
Leonard vs LeBron: 17.8/6.4/2.0 75.3 TS% FMVP

[TMacYaoRockets]

How is Durant gonna get the MVP award if the Thunder are not a top 3 team in the NBA?

[JohnFreeman]

The guy that literally won the Finals MVP when guarded by LeBron James...ya, ok bro
LeBron always in your head. Sad.

[Twiens]

The guy that literally won the Finals MVP when guarded by LeBron James...ya, ok bro

Leonard vs Durant: 11.8/5.5/2.5 48.7 TS%
Leonard vs LeBron: 17.8/6.4/2.0 75.3 TS% FMVP

Lebron Stan's getting owned :cheers:

[rlsmooth775]

The guy that literally won the Finals MVP when guarded by LeBron James...ya, ok bro

Leonard vs Durant: 11.8/5.5/2.5 48.7 TS%
Leonard vs LeBron: 17.8/6.4/2.0 75.3 TS% FMVP

http://i.imgur.com/aU8gYl.jpg

[Joyner82reload]

http://i.imgur.com/aU8gYl.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/06/16/article-2658781-1ECF05F700000578-85_634x493.jpg

[JohnFreeman]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/06/16/article-2658781-1ECF05F700000578-85_634x493.jpg
http://cdn.necolebitchie.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Screen-Shot-2013-06-21-at-8.41.05-AM.png

[rlsmooth775]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/06/16/article-2658781-1ECF05F700000578-85_634x493.jpg

Durant is visibly crying in his mothers arms Lebron is just pissed at wade and bosh

[Joyner82reload]

http://cdn.necolebitchie.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Screen-Shot-2013-06-21-at-8.41.05-AM.png

:sleeping

http://lakerholicz.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/kobe-bryant-five-championships.jpg

[JohnFreeman]

:sleeping

http://lakerholicz.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/kobe-bryant-five-championships.jpg
Kobe and LeBron have championships. Alphas.

[plowking]

Lebron Stan's getting owned :cheers:

Bron guarded Parker for 3 games.

[CelticBaller]

http://cdn.necolebitchie.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Screen-Shot-2013-06-21-at-8.41.05-AM.png
LeBron had the same finals record... actually worse finals record than durant at his age

topkek

[JohnFreeman]

LeBron had the same finals record... actually worse finals record than durant at his age

topkek
So he took his team to the finals more then Durant did? K.

[Budadiiii]

This plowking guy is one of the biggest f*ggots on this site. Constantly talks out of his ass and he's just an overall bland, generic, annoying piece of shit.

[rlsmooth775]

http://sportige.com/wp-content/uploads/gallery/mems-on-kevin-durant-oklahoma-city-thunder/durant-lonr.jpg

[MJistheGOAT]

http://styleengine.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/lebron-kobe-mj.jpg

[JohnFreeman]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bg2fx-SCUAA2Khy.jpg:large

[Budadiiii]

LeBron always in your head. Sad.
Trying to be me. Sad.

[CelticBaller]

So he took his team to the finals more then Durant did? K.
No, he was 0-1, being swept in the finals

kek

[Twiens]

Bron guarded Parker for 3 games.

Of course he did :rolleyes:

Dude couldn't even guard Skip to my freakin Lou. Only has a rep as a good defender because Drose shoots jumpers like Shaq.

[JohnFreeman]

No, he was 0-1, being swept in the finals

kek
Don't remember LeBron having prime Westbrook and Ibaka

[CelticBaller]

Don't remember LeBron having prime Westbrook and Ibaka
but when he had prime bosh and wade he still got bounced

kek

[JohnFreeman]

but when he had prime bosh and wade he still got bounced

kek
Played great against the Celtics though

[Budadiiii]

Don't remember LeBron having prime Westbrook and Ibaka
Don't remember Durant playing in the East or colluding with two superstars or having the worst choke job in finals history.

[CelticBaller]

Played great against the Celtics though
dude destroyed us

**** lebron, only kobe is worse than him

[JohnFreeman]

dude destroyed us

**** lebron, only kobe is worse than him
I agree about Kobe

[Fudge]

No amount of meme's will stop Durant from being the best AND most valuable player in the world. :oldlol:

The league is in good hands now that Durant runs it.

[GrapeApe]

Durant might be the best player in the league, but he's not winning MVP. He's missed too many games and the Thunder won't have a good enough record.

[Budadiiii]

Durant might be the best player in the league, but he's not winning MVP. He's missed too many games and the Thunder won't have a good enough record.
They'll have a FANTASTIC record when he's playing though. Whether he gets MVP or not, he's easily the best player on planet Earth. Period.

[Rodmantheman]

Two MVP candidates on the same time yet no rings:roll:

[KG215]

I don't give a shit about him winning MVP, or not. I think it's pretty obvious, with LeBron's decline and Durant's improvement, KD is probably the clear cut best player in the NBA right now. And that's something that's pretty damn hard to achieve in this league. Sure, you can go back to any given year and probably come to a consensus Player A or Player B was the best player in the league that year, but for someone to be the clear cut best player in the league? Doesn't seem like that happens as often.

[BlazerRed]

There is another guy on his team who has been more efficient, plays more minutes every night,has played double the games and puts up better numbers. How is he the MVP of his team?

Go ahead and explain to me.
Westbrook more efficient than Durant? I've seen it all :oldlol:

[GrapeApe]

I don't give a shit about him winning MVP, or not. I think it's pretty obvious, with LeBron's decline and Durant's improvement, KD is probably the clear cut best player in the NBA right now. And that's something that's pretty damn hard to achieve in this league. Sure, you can go back to any given year and probably come to a consensus Player A or Player B was the best player in the league that year, but for someone to be the clear cut best player in the league? Doesn't seem like that happens as often.

I wouldn't say it's clear cut, especially with his own teammate getting some mention as the best player in the league. That's another reason I think he'll have a hard time winning MVP. He and Westbrook may cancel each other out much like LeBron and Wade in 2011.

[russwest0]

Well it's not like anyone else is on his level.

[MASH Transit]

Called this shit years ago. Get use to the Durant era, folks.

[retaxis]

Durant doesn't have the skills and aggression to ever win a championship. Lebron is in chill mode, come playoffs Lebron will once again show why he is far superior to lanky Durant. Durant to Lebron is Reggie to MJ. one totally overshadowed throughout their careers by another. Back in the early 90s people were saying Reggie/Juwan/Karl/Chuck were all better than MJ and that MJ was declining. MJ 3 peated and none of those people won rings while MJ was in the league besides Juwan (with LBJ). Same with KD his prime will be in LBJ's shadow. Lebron will stop teasin the NBA fans and kick it into another gear soon, Durant will come 2nd in the MVP voting to someone else and Durant won't even sniff the finals again...

[Collie]

Durant doesn't have the skills and aggression to ever win a championship. Lebron is in chill mode, come playoffs Lebron will once again show why he is far superior to lanky Durant. Durant to Lebron is Reggie to MJ. one totally overshadowed throughout their careers by another. Back in the early 90s people were saying Reggie/Juwan/Karl/Chuck were all better than MJ and that MJ was declining. MJ 3 peated and none of those people won rings while MJ was in the league besides Juwan (with LBJ). Same with KD his prime will be in LBJ's shadow. Lebron will stop teasin the NBA fans and kick it into another gear soon, Durant will come 2nd in the MVP voting to someone else and Durant won't even sniff the finals again...

:biggums:

[Dragonyeuw]

. Back in the early 90s people were saying Reggie/Juwan/Karl/Chuck were all better than MJ and that MJ was declining....

:wtf: not only was absolutely noone saying that, but early 90s is universally considered prime/ peak MJ.

[ImKobe]

Durant doesn't have the skills and aggression to ever win a championship. Lebron is in chill mode, come playoffs Lebron will once again show why he is far superior to lanky Durant. Durant to Lebron is Reggie to MJ. one totally overshadowed throughout their careers by another. Back in the early 90s people were saying Reggie/Juwan/Karl/Chuck were all better than MJ and that MJ was declining. MJ 3 peated and none of those people won rings while MJ was in the league besides Juwan (with LBJ). Same with KD his prime will be in LBJ's shadow. Lebron will stop teasin the NBA fans and kick it into another gear soon, Durant will come 2nd in the MVP voting to someone else and Durant won't even sniff the finals again...

lol no one was saying that....MJ was pretty much unanimous GOAT after his 93 title run....

[zoom17]

Durant doesn't have the skills and aggression to ever win a championship. Lebron is in chill mode, come playoffs Lebron will once again show why he is far superior to lanky Durant. Durant to Lebron is Reggie to MJ. one totally overshadowed throughout their careers by another. Back in the early 90s people were saying Reggie/Juwan/Karl/Chuck were all better than MJ and that MJ was declining. MJ 3 peated and none of those people won rings while MJ was in the league besides Juwan (with LBJ). Same with KD his prime will be in LBJ's shadow. Lebron will stop teasin the NBA fans and kick it into another gear soon, Durant will come 2nd in the MVP voting to someone else and Durant won't even sniff the finals again...

It came early but worst post of the year nominee:biggums:

[Top Gun]

Durant owns the league now. Everyone just needs to accept it.

[k0kakw0rld]

Let's go ahead and get this out of the way, he will end up winning the award while only playing 60~ games
It does not matter what Westbrook was doing while he was gone huh?

Westbrook > Durcan't

[sportjames23]

Durant doesn't have the skills and aggression to ever win a championship. Lebron is in chill mode, come playoffs Lebron will once again show why he is far superior to lanky Durant. Durant to Lebron is Reggie to MJ. one totally overshadowed throughout their careers by another. Back in the early 90s people were saying Reggie/Juwan/Karl/Chuck were all better than MJ and that MJ was declining. MJ 3 peated and none of those people won rings while MJ was in the league besides Juwan (with LBJ). Same with KD his prime will be in LBJ's shadow. Lebron will stop teasin the NBA fans and kick it into another gear soon, Durant will come 2nd in the MVP voting to someone else and Durant won't even sniff the finals again...


Da fuq?:biggums:

[JellyBean]

If Durant wins the MVP over Stephen Curry or Marc Gasol, the MVP award is REALLY tainted.

[gts]

:roll: retaxis just making sh*t up

[dazzer87]

Get use to the Durant era, folks.
of what putting up great numbers in the regular season, and then crying on biggie small's shoulder when he gets knock out of the playoff........

[LBJ 23]

I will say just this. A lot of the biggest Lebron haters on here are Durant fans. Would those same people be OK with Lebron winning the MVP while playing with the 2nd best or 3rd best player in the league in Westbrook? And arguably the best player on OKC team?

We had similar situation in 11' with Lebron and Wade, and those same people(russwest,Fudge,yojner,...) were saying how Lebron can't win MVP because he's playing with Wade even though the gap between Lebron and Wade was slightly bigger(atleast for regular season) than the gap between Westbrook and Durant now.

Can someone explain to me those double standards please? Or is this just telling us how much greater Lebron as a basketball player is because he is held to completely different and higher standards than all the players mentioned here?

[PsychoBe]

I will say just this. A lot of the biggest Lebron haters on here are Durant fans. Would those same people be OK with Lebron winning the MVP while playing with the 2nd best or 3rd best player in the league in Westbrook? And arguably the best player on OKC team?

We had similar situation in 11' with Lebron and Wade, and those same people(russwest,Fudge,yojner,...) were saying how Lebron can't win MVP because he's playing with Wade even though the gap between Lebron and Wade was slightly bigger(atleast for regular season) than the gap between Westbrook and Durant now.

Can someone explain to me those double standards please? Or is this just telling us how much greater Lebron as a basketball player is because he is held to completely different and higher standards than all the players mentioned here?

kd is the clear cut best player :facepalm

when they are both on the floor, and the game goes down the stretch in the 4th, who gets the ball? kd or westbrook?

[LBJ 23]

kd is the clear cut best player :facepalm

when they are both on the floor, and the game goes down the stretch in the 4th, who gets the ball? kd or westbrook?


You know how to read? :facepalm

That's why I said ARGUABLY. And it still makes no difference. Westbrook is still very close behind him if you see KD as the clear cut best player on OKC right now.

But you still didn't address my question, how can Durant win MVP with top 3 player by his side while certain player a few years back couldn't(I'm not saying Lebron was deserving of MVP in 11'', just showing the double standards).

[PsychoBe]

You know how to read? :facepalm

That's why I said ARGUABLY. And it still makes no difference. Westbrook is still very close behind him if you see KD as the clear cut best player on OKC right now.

But you still didn't address my question, how can Durant win MVP with top 3 player by his side while certain player a few years back couldn't(I'm not saying Lebron was deserving of MVP in 11'', just showing the double standards).

how is westbrook "very close" if kd is still the clear cut best player? westbrook only looks good on every possession that kd does not get the ball or in transition (which is where i think russel just get most of his points anyways).

also let's be honest, goatbrook isn't a top 3 player right now. i do think he's the best pg in the league, but that doesn't mean much when you have the best player to defer to night in and night out.

we're talking about how durant light up the suns for 44 points and was given the ball down the stretch in 4th and in ot and made the play of the game by passing the ball to morrow who made a 4-point play...

and we're talking about the same player who, last night, scored 25 points in the second half (who westbrook deferred to and missed most of his shots) and made bucket after bucket to keep the game out of reach.

there is simply no comparison. bran had an equal on his team, kd does not.

[LBJ 23]

how is westbrook "very close" if kd is still the clear cut best player? westbrook only looks good on every possession that kd does not get the ball or in transition (which is where i think russel just get most of his points anyways).

also let's be honest, goatbrook isn't a top 3 player right now. i do think he's the best pg in the league, but that doesn't mean much when you have the best player to defer to night in and night out.

we're talking about how durant light up the suns for 44 points and was given the ball down the stretch in 4th and in ot and made the play of the game by passing the ball to morrow who made a 4-point play...

and we're talking about the same player who, last night, scored 25 points in the second half (who westbrook deferred to and missed most of his shots) and made bucket after bucket to keep the game out of reach.

there is simply no comparison. bran had an equal on his team, kd does not.


Lol what you even talking about? With KD out Westbrook was tearing up the league and looking like the best player. Look at the whole season, not just the last 2 games. And this ''deffering'' shit is so stupid to me. If one player deffers to another in certain situations that means that he's certainly a worse player? If that's so, I've seen KD deffer to Westbrook in last years playoffs way too much so what does that tell us? You're probably a Kobe fan who judges players mostly by ''unmeasurable criteria'' such as ''killer instinct'', ''deffering'',''killer mentality'' etc... If that's the case, Westbrook certainly showed more of that in the last year playoffs or in this regular season.

And bran had and equal on his team in 11''? And Durant now does not? Won't even comment on that :lol

[Joyner82reload]

I will say just this. A lot of the biggest Lebron haters on here are Durant fans. Would those same people be OK with Lebron winning the MVP while playing with the 2nd best or 3rd best player in the league in Westbrook? And arguably the best player on OKC team?

We had similar situation in 11' with Lebron and Wade, and those same people(russwest,Fudge,yojner,...) were saying how Lebron can't win MVP because he's playing with Wade even though the gap between Lebron and Wade was slightly bigger(atleast for regular season) than the gap between Westbrook and Durant now.

Can someone explain to me those double standards please? Or is this just telling us how much greater Lebron as a basketball player is because he is held to completely different and higher standards than all the players mentioned here?

LeBron didn't win the MVP in 2011 because he was not playing at the level he had the previous 2 seasons. And he was NOWHERE near the level of what Durant is playing right now.

Let's compare their numbers adjusted Durant's stats to LeBron's minutes that season, which Durant will soon reach after his minute restriction is lifted

Durant 2014-15 33.5 ppg 7.5 rpg 4.9 apg 68.3 TS% 31.5 PER .295 WSp48
LeBron 2010-11 26.7 ppg 7.5 rpg 7.0 apg 59.4 TS% 27.3 PER .244 WSp48

Durant is playing on a different level from 2011 LeBron.

[GrapeApe]

LeBron didn't win the MVP in 2011 because he was not playing at the level he had the previous 2 seasons. And he was NOWHERE near the level of what Durant is playing right now.

Let's compare their numbers adjusted Durant's stats to LeBron's minutes that season, which Durant will soon reach after his minute restriction is lifted

Durant 2014-15 33.5 ppg 7.5 rpg 4.9 apg 68.3 TS% 31.5 PER .295 WSp48
LeBron 2010-11 26.7 ppg 7.5 rpg 7.0 apg 59.4 TS% 27.3 PER .244 WSp48

Durant is playing on a different level from 2011 LeBron.

Durant is averaging 25.5/5.7/3.7 this year.

Edit: didn't see you were adjusting for minutes. Still, it's way too small of a sample size to definitively say Durant is playing at a different level.

[LBJ 23]

LeBron didn't win the MVP in 2011 because he was not playing at the level he had the previous 2 seasons. And he was NOWHERE near the level of what Durant is playing right now.

Let's compare their numbers adjusted Durant's stats to LeBron's minutes that season, which Durant will soon reach after his minute restriction is lifted

Durant 2014-15 33.5 ppg 7.5 rpg 4.9 apg 68.3 TS% 31.5 PER .295 WSp48
LeBron 2010-11 26.7 ppg 7.5 rpg 7.0 apg 59.4 TS% 27.3 PER .244 WSp48

Durant is playing on a different level from 2011 LeBron.


I said even in a post above that Lebron was not deserving of the MVP in the 11''. I was talking about how, when early in the season in 11'' Lebron had a stretch of putting up great numbers(after that slow start of the season) and the mention of Lebron possibly winning the MVP that year was brought up, you and your mates were all loud how he can't and should not win MVP because he has Wade by his side.
Similar thing now with Durant and you're all wet between the legs and saying how he is deserving of the MVP and should win it. Even though I will say it again, Westbrook now is closer to Durant than Wade was to Lebron in 11''.

[PsychoBe]

I said even in a post above that Lebron was not deserving of the MVP in the 11''. I was talking about how, when early in the season in 11'' Lebron had a stretch of putting up great numbers(after that slow start of the season) and the mention of Lebron possibly winning the MVP that year was brought up, you and your mates were all loud how he can't and should not win MVP because he has Wade by his side.
Similar thing now with Durant and you're all wet between the legs and saying how he is deserving of the MVP and should win it. Even though I will say it again, Westbrook now is closer to Durant than Wade was to Lebron in 11''.

no, he is not. had durant never missed a game, this wouldn't be a discussion, because guess who westbrook would be deferring to night in and night out down the stretch? the mvp kevin durant.

[PsychoBe]

Lol what you even talking about? With KD out Westbrook was tearing up the league and looking like the best player. Look at the whole season, not just the last 2 games. And this ''deffering'' shit is so stupid to me. If one player deffers to another in certain situations that means that he's certainly a worse player? If that's so, I've seen KD deffer to Westbrook in last years playoffs way too much so what does that tell us? You're probably a Kobe fan who judges players mostly by ''unmeasurable criteria'' such as ''killer instinct'', ''deffering'',''killer mentality'' etc... If that's the case, Westbrook certainly showed more of that in the last year playoffs or in this regular season.

And bran had and equal on his team in 11''? And Durant now does not? Won't even comment on that :lol

you're writing a false narrative. of course when the whole team is centered around westbrook he'll put up numbers, it would be a travesty if he didn't. just like when bran sat out against portland and bosh put up 30+ points including the game winner :facepalm

kd is the clear cut best player, your only defense now is that westbrook played more games without durant so he had more of a chance to put up numbers, but then you watch durant's 30 point half against the warriors, his 44 point game against the suns, and his clutch 34 point win against the wizards, and your argument falls apart.

westbrook is a great, great player, but he is not in durant's league.

[K Xerxes]

no, he is not. had durant never missed a game, this wouldn't be a discussion, because guess who westbrook would be deferring to night in and night out down the stretch? the mvp kevin durant.

Except Westbrook was as good as (if not better than) Durant in the playoffs last year. Durant is obviously the better player overall, but let's not act like his game hasn't been called into question in pivotal moments. Westbrook has straight up dominated some playoff games and looked like 'the man' while Durant goes quiet.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Best player for sure, however I wouldn't be so quick to call him MVP. Marc Gasol and Steph Curry have been just as valuable to their teams success, given the number of games Durant's missed.

[PsychoBe]

Except Westbrook was as good as (if not better than) Durant in the playoffs last year. Durant is obviously the better player overall, but let's not act like his game hasn't been called into question in pivotal moments. Westbrook has straight up dominated some playoff games and looked like 'the man' while Durant goes quiet.

another false narrative. westbrook dominated his matchups, like he was supposed to do. but the best player always get the ball down the stretch, and that was durant. in the 3 ot's against memphis, westbrook shot extremely abysmal, but nobody brings that up. kd was more efficient, scored more points, and was more clutch. westbrook didn't have anything over him.

[K Xerxes]

another false narrative. westbrook dominated his matchups, like he was supposed to do. but the best player always get the ball down the stretch, and that was durant. in the 3 ot's against memphis, westbrook shot extremely abysmal, but nobody brings that up. kd was more efficient, scored more points, and was more clutch. westbrook didn't have anything over him.

Just revisionist history. Westbrook dominated his matchups like he was supposed to, so what was Durant doing against the likes of Tony Allen (and hell even Chris Paul)? Wasn't he supposed to dominate them?

Everybody brings up the fact that Westbrook had atrocious OTs, but Durant was clutch? Reggie Jackson saved the team from a 3-1 deficit in the first round, why was Durant not clutch? And what did he do in the final game against the Spurs? Definitely not be clutch. :oldlol:

People definitely argued that Westbrook had a bigger impact on his team hen. More hustle on both sides of the floor and kept his team afloat while Durant spent much of games choking.

[LBJ 23]

also let's be honest, goatbrook isn't a top 3 player right now. i do think he's the best pg in the league, but that doesn't mean much when you have the best player to defer to night in and night out.



Priceless. Don't know if this is just sheer stupidity or strong trolling.



westbrook dominated his matchups, like he was supposed to do. but the best player always get the ball down the stretch, and that was durant

Another gem.



It's like this guy tries to downplay anything Westbrook does and it ''doesn't mean'' much because Durant gets the ball down the stretch anyway :oldlol:

[MASH Transit]

I will say just this. A lot of the biggest Lebron haters on here are Durant fans. Would those same people be OK with Lebron winning the MVP while playing with the 2nd best or 3rd best player in the league in Westbrook? And arguably the best player on OKC team?

We had similar situation in 11' with Lebron and Wade, and those same people(russwest,Fudge,yojner,...) were saying how Lebron can't win MVP because he's playing with Wade even though the gap between Lebron and Wade was slightly bigger(atleast for regular season) than the gap between Westbrook and Durant now.

Can someone explain to me those double standards please? Or is this just telling us how much greater Lebron as a basketball player is because he is held to completely different and higher standards than all the players mentioned here?

Didn't LeBron win an MVP when D-Wade was his teammate and a top 5 player in the NBA?

[MASH Transit]

Priceless. Don't know if this is just sheer stupidity or strong trolling.




Another gem.



It's like this guy tries to downplay anything Westbrook does and it ''doesn't mean'' much because Durant gets the ball down the stretch anyway :oldlol:

It's not that he's downplaying Westbrook, but that he understands the context of his success. I've been an OKC fan since before anyone knew who Serge Ibaka and James Harden were, and I can assure, although Westbrook is a great player, Durant is the apex. He's next in the line of basketball excellency, and we're witnessing the beginning of his era.

Rus is Scottie in this equation, even he understand this.

[LBJ 23]

Didn't LeBron win an MVP when D-Wade was his teammate and a top 5 player in the NBA?

Wade played 49 games that year......

[LBJ 23]

It's not that I'm downplaying Wade, but that he understands the context of his success. I've been an OKC fan since before anyone knew who Serge Ibaka and James Harden were, and I can assure, although Wade is a great player, Lebron is the apex. He's next in the line of basketball excellency, and we're witnessing the beginning of his era.

Wade is Scottie in this equation, even he understand this. (2011 year)


Now do you see my point in this thread? My main point is not who is better between KD and Westbrook. My point are the double standards of the Lebron haters(who are mostly KD fans and Kobe fans who are now jumping on KD bandwagoon)

[Kblaze8855]

Forget spreading it out over Lebron/Durants 39 minutes a game(a ridiculous thing to do anyway...for the record). Westbrook is putting up 32/8/6 and 3 steals per 36.

If we are gonna extrapolate and treat it like reality...Westbrook has to get mentioned.

[LBJ 23]

If we are gonna extrapolate and treat it like reality...Westbrook has to get mentioned.


That's the whole point of my posts in this thread. If Wade was brought up as some kind of a barrier in 11'' whenever the talks of Lebron possibly winning the MVP have been brought up, Westbrook now can't be ignored. Because those are some strong double standards from the same posters on here. That's all I'm trying to say.

[GrapeApe]

Wade played 49 games that year......

Lol. It was a shortened season due to the strike/lockout. Lebron had a phenominal season and was the runaway MVP. Wade was still a top 5 player but that's the year when Lebron became the unquestioned best player on the team. In 2011, Wade and Lebron were basically equals. If there was any gap it was negligible, similar to Durant and Westbrook this year.

[Kingwillball]

Wait til Lebron gets back In lineup and starts dominating.

[BuffaloBill]

KD is the best basketball player in the world right now, two games back from an injury. If he continues to play this way and the Thunder finish with a top 6 seed, I don't see how he doesn't win.

[eliteballer]

Lol. It was a shortened season due to the strike/lockout. Lebron had a phenominal season and was the runaway MVP. Wade was still a top 5 player but that's the year when Lebron became the unquestioned best player on the team. In 2011, Wade and Lebron were basically equals. If there was any gap it was negligible, similar to Durant and Westbrook this year.

:roll: Thanks for calling out these dopes

[PsychoBe]

Priceless. Don't know if this is just sheer stupidity or strong trolling.




Another gem.



It's like this guy tries to downplay anything Westbrook does and it ''doesn't mean'' much because Durant gets the ball down the stretch anyway :oldlol:

you're insane.

let me speak to you in a language that you will understand

durant 2014 playoffs: 30/8/4 46%
westbrook 2014 playoffs: 26/8/7 42%

now please stop the narratives.

[Joyner82reload]

Forget spreading it out over Lebron/Durants 39 minutes a game(a ridiculous thing to do anyway...for the record). Westbrook is putting up 32/8/6 and 3 steals per 36.

If we are gonna extrapolate and treat it like reality...Westbrook has to get mentioned.

I'm guessing scoring efficiency means nothing? Durant is at an all time level, Westbrook is average.

[LBJ 23]

Lol. It was a shortened season due to the strike/lockout.


I apologize, can't believe that escaped my mind :banghead:

[SillyRabbit]

He deserves the MVP the way he's playing.

If OKC make the playoffs on his back, he should win the MVP.

If he:

1) Is the best player in the NBA this season
2) Is more valuable to OKC than Curry is to GS or Harden to Houston
3) Doesn't miss too many more games

Then he absolutely 100% deserves the MVP.

[Keno]

that pathetic ass performance tonight sure will help his case.

[sundizz]

Curry for MVP