I just can't respect this type of play from Kobe

[konex]

1 FT at home? He isn't trying hard enough if he only manages 1 FT at home.

Protecting FG% and padding all-around stats while abdicating his responsibility as a scorer in a close game? WTF

He allowed the hating media, ingrate fans and all the contract-year mercenaries hungry for shots on this team to change his game. :no: :facepalm

[lilteapot]

Relax, the fact that he was playing this way was the reason why this team was able to stay competitive against a great team.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Bean in his 19th season, and his stans expect him to play like a superstar. :oldlol: Unreal

[KungFuJoe]

I thouht Kobe played a great game.

But this is something I've noticed of Kobe since Day 1. He can't play within the flow of the offense. He has "modes". He's either in shoot mode or pass mode. He's like a boxer who can't switch between offense and defense naturally depending on what the opponent gives him.

He was in pass mode today. He should have taken that last shot. No, it wasn't a bad play (always find the open man) but in the context of the situation, he should have shot it.

[ImKobe]

Bean in his 19th season, and his stans expect him to play like a superstar. :oldlol: Unreal

People can't just be happy with the man still giving us more highlights in his 19th year in the league... Just take the good with the bad and be happy that he'll still have some nice games every now and then.


People are comparing Kobe in his 19th season to other superstars in their prime like he's supposed to still be on their level or anywhere near it. You wouldn't see this happen to any other player.

[ImKobe]

I thouht Kobe played a great game.

But this is something I've noticed of Kobe since Day 1. He can't play within the flow of the offense. He has "modes". He's either in shoot mode or pass mode. He's like a boxer who can't switch between offense and defense naturally depending on what the opponent gives him.

He was in pass mode today. He should have taken that last shot. No, it wasn't a bad play (always find the open man) but in the context of the situation, he should have shot it.


I think he was well balanced in the Memphis game. When he forces his passing, he usually is turnover prone. He had 8 assists to only 2 TOs against a top defense and shot 6/14 (that last shot was as low-percentage as they come, anyways), which is still a decent shooting night by his standards this season. 15/9/8 in 32 minutes is very good for a guy with his mileage.

Kobe is playing within the team concept and he thought that the D would collapse on him at the rim when he drove and dished it off to Davis, that hard foul was enough to stop Davis from finishing what should have been an easy layup for him. He was 5/6 from the line this game, so it's not like he wasn't making FTs.

[KungFuJoe]

I think he was well balanced in the Memphis game. When he forces his passing, he usually is turnover prone. He had 8 assists to only 2 TOs against a top defense and shot 6/14 (that last shot was as low-percentage as they come, anyways), which is still a decent shooting night by his standards this season. 15/9/8 in 32 minutes is very good for a guy with his mileage.

Kobe is playing within the team concept and he thought that the D would collapse on him at the rim when he drove and dished it off to Davis, that hard foul was enough to stop Davis from finishing what should have been an easy layup for him. He was 5/6 from the line this game, so it's not like he wasn't making FTs.

I can't even argue that. He played a great game. The last pass was a good play. Yeah, I'd rather him shoot it, but it was a good play. Davis was open.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

People can't just be happy with the man still giving us more highlights in his 19th year in the league... Just take the good with the bad and be happy that he'll still have some nice games every now and then.


People are comparing Kobe in his 19th season to other superstars in their prime like he's supposed to still be on their level or anywhere near it. You wouldn't see this happen to any other player.
Kobe played a nice game tonight. Had a couple errors, but that's understandable as he's adjusting his game - a playstyle at this stage of his career that is more conductive to winning.

His stans need to watch more of his postgames. Dude has been quoted several times, saying that he cannot shot jack for 40+ minutes and expect to stay healthy / grab wins.

[KungFuJoe]

I was one of Kobe's biggest haters. But, he's starting to make me admit I was wrong. He's been playing very well lately and the Lakers are responding. They are losing close ones, but they are competitive.

I just wish Kobe came out from Game 1 like this, but I think he had something to prove...wanted to show that he could still score with the best of them. But I think know it's a combination of him having scored (44 point game) and finding out that he can't last at this rate.

But if he can keep on giving 20/8/7 on 42-45% shooting...that's top tier talent. Play half decent defense. Get other involved...this team could have made some noise. Might be too late now though.

[ImKobe]

Kobe played a nice game tonight. Had a couple errors, but that's understandable as he's adjusting his game - a playstyle at this stage of his career that is more conductive to winning.

His stans need to watch more of his postgames. Dude has been quoted several times, saying that he cannot shot jack for 40+ minutes and expect to stay stay healthy while grabbing wins.

Obviously. But all players make errors. Kobe's at the point where he's regressing and the mistakes are going to pile up this season, but like you said it's understandable.

I just want him to be healthy enough to finish his last two seasons out, but people expect him to go all in every single game, which is ridiculous. Dude is hurting as it is while playing less than 36 minutes a game. His achilles and knee are never going to be 100% again, an NBA vet 15+ seasons into his career is never going to feel "fresh", the mileage doesn't go away. I don't think everyone here is willing to admit that fact.

I'm all for playing Kobe 28-30 minutes a game and have him average 20/6/6 on decent efficiency instead of running him to the ground and having him jack 20-30 shots a game and injure himself before the all-star break.

[JT123]

1 FT at home? He isn't trying hard enough if he only manages 1 FT at home.

Protecting FG% and padding all-around stats while abdicating his responsibility as a scorer in a close game? WTF

He allowed the hating media, ingrate fans and all the contract-year mercenaries hungry for shots on this team to change his game. :no: :facepalm
Do you care about anything other than Kobe's point total? If he had scored 30 points tonight on 36% shooting and the Lakers lost by 20 would you be happier? Serious question.

[ImKobe]

I was one of Kobe's biggest haters. But, he's starting to make me admit I was wrong. He's been playing very well lately and the Lakers are responding. They are losing close ones, but they are competitive.

I just wish Kobe came out from Game 1 like this, but I think he had something to prove...wanted to show that he could still score with the best of them. But I think know it's a combination of him having scored (44 point game) and finding out that he can't last at this rate.

But if he can keep on giving 20/8/7 on 42-45% shooting...that's top tier talent. Play half decent defense. Get other involved...this team could have made some noise. Might be too late now though.

This team wasn't playing this well together early in the season though. Their defense was a lot worse and as a result they needed Kobe to do more on offense in terms of scoring for them to be somewhat competitive, I do agree him jacking a lot of shots early in the season wasn't the best of things. But they were losing by 10-30 points on the regular, I don't think it would have been that big of a difference. They have already blown like 10 close games in the 4th that they should have won, but you can't win them all.

I just hope he keeps playing a balanced game and doesn't spend all his energy on trying to get 30 or more every game, he has already passed MJ, he should now be looking to show all the doubters that he can also be a team player and be valuable in other aspects besides scoring. He could very well average something like 18/6/8 a game, which are close to elite numbers for any point guard.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Obviously. But all players make errors. Kobe's at the point where he's regressing and the mistakes are going to pile up this season, but like you said it's understandable.

I just want him to be healthy enough to finish his last two seasons out, but people expect him to go all in every single game, which is ridiculous. Dude is hurting as it is while playing less than 36 minutes a game. His achilles and knee are never going to be 100% again, an NBA vet 15+ seasons into his career is never going to feel "fresh", the mileage doesn't go away. I don't think everyone here is willing to admit that fact.

I'm all for playing Kobe 28-30 minutes a game and have him average 20/6/6 on decent efficiency instead of running him to the ground and having him jack 20-30 shots a game and injure himself before the all-star break.

Word. I think most people would like to see Kobe just age gracefully. Dude has nothing left to prove, and should only be worried about mentoring the young bloods.

Duncan is the perfect example of this. He gets nothing but adulation and respect, playing the game the right way.

[KungFuJoe]

This team wasn't playing this well together early in the season though. Their defense was a lot worse and as a result they needed Kobe to do more on offense in terms of scoring for them to be somewhat competitive, I do agree him jacking a lot of shots early in the season wasn't the best of things. But they were losing by 10-30 points on the regular, I don't think it would have been that big of a difference. They have already blown like 10 close games in the 4th that they should have won, but you can't win them all.

I just hope he keeps playing a balanced game and doesn't spend all his energy on trying to get 30 or more every game, he has already passed MJ, he should now be looking to show all the doubters that he can also be a team player and be valuable in other aspects besides scoring. He could very well average something like 18/6/8 a game, which are close to elite numbers for any point guard.

My whole argument is that Kobe can't carry a team anymore. He just can't. Too old, too injured. He should have come out the gate trying to get others involved. Yeah, it would have resulted in some BIGGER blowout losses, but you'd see the team we have been seeing as of late...earlier.

It's about looking at the long run.

[ImKobe]

My whole argument is that Kobe can't carry a team anymore. He just can't. Too old, too injured. He should have come out the gate trying to get others involved. Yeah, it would have resulted in some BIGGER blowout losses, but you'd see the team we have been seeing as of late...earlier.

It's about looking at the long run.

He can still be a leader and a number one option on offense, but on a more balanced roster. You can't expect him to score 25+ every night AND also make plays for others. His body is not going to respond that well every night. Mike had Scottie to take over the playmaking duties during the 2nd 3-peat, he could live in the post and just do his thing. Kobe since Phil left has had a too big of a role to still be playing this way in his 19th year, it was stupid back in 2013 (which cost him) and it's even dumber now.

And yeah, you have a point there. But I want the Lakers to get that draft pick. We're headed for the right path. I also hope we get a good playmaker for next season so that Kobe can just be a scorer in the post and hit some open 3s instead of having to create for everyone every single game..

[TaLvsCuaL]

A bit harsh. He knows the team sucks and just has accepted the reality hoping next year things will be better. Resting is the best idea for his career right now.

[konex]

Do you care about anything other than Kobe's point total? If he had scored 30 points tonight on 36% shooting and the Lakers lost by 20 would you be happier? Serious question.

No, That would suck but I'd rather lose with him shooting than Ed Davis. I became a Kobe fan cos he always took the responsibility of the game in his hands even as a young player. No fear, no care about the blame if he missed.

I feel he is betraying that ideal by changing his game after all this criticism and going out of his way NOT to score. I can live with it if we win but it makes me so mad when we lose anyways lol

[AirFederer]

It's funny that Kobe gets hate from his stans when he actually plays a decent game :lol

They'd rather see him chuck for forty...

I agree about Kobe having two modes, which he can't switch between during games... It's either chuck or pass.

But he's on the right track.

[dreamwarrior]

Kobe had a great game. It was Lin who f'd it up for the team. But you can't win every close game...

[TheMarkMadsen]

Mad respect to Kobe for adapting. Adaptbe.

Just imagine if he had some actual players around him. We are looking at potential 20/6/8 statlines every night. Very unselfish to play this way.

[AirFederer]

Kobe had a great game. It was Lin who f'd it up for the team. But you can't win every close game...
NID :lol

[Mr Feeny]

NID :lol

There you go. If you want to know what categorical spasticity is, there it is.
A few of these....I'm kobe, lazaruss, magic 32, and cold soul (keep in mind, I'm convinced they're all the same person) rake stupidity to a whole other level.

[20Four]

1 FT at home? He isn't trying hard enough if he only manages 1 FT at home.

Protecting FG% and padding all-around stats while abdicating his responsibility as a scorer in a close game? WTF

He allowed the hating media, ingrate fans and all the contract-year mercenaries hungry for shots on this team to change his game. :no: :facepalm
And I can't believe after 30 years working at McDonald's you haven't made manager yet....wtf

[HOoopCityJones]

There you go. If you want to know what categorical spasticity is, there it is.
A few of these....I'm kobe, lazaruss, magic 32, and cold soul (keep in mind, I'm convinced they're all the same person) rake stupidity to a whole other level.


We're all pretty sure you're one guy.

ArbitraryWater
JT
Dragic
Dubeta
Arizaforthree
Jameer

Maybe even every other Lebron bitch boy on this board. You all are rarely or never around at the same time. You'll make threads and when no one replies, then all of a sudden a known Lebron stan will come out the woodwork to agree with the OP. Usually it's just you talking to yourself.

You're the sadddest sack of shit on this board. Why don't you at least go out and try to get some coochie? :confusedshrug:

[gts]

Bean in his 19th season, and his stans expect him to play like a superstar. :oldlol: UnrealKonex is and always has been an idiot

There actually is no "Konex curse" he's just so stupid his predictions always go wrong

[gts]

Kobe had a great game. It was Lin who f'd it up for the team. But you can't win every close game...Lin actually played really great... had a more than solid game, Lakes lost this one because A Memphis is pretty damn good and the Lakers just could get a couple stops on D and made a few, not just one by one player but a few mistakes down the stretch

foul trouble on the bigs was a problem too but Memphis is hard to contain in the paint so not unexpected

good game (fun to watch) all in all certainly nothing to whine about other than they lost

[MJ(Mean John)]

Lin actually played really great... had a more than solid game, Lakes lost this one because A Memphis is pretty damn good and the Lakers just could get a couple stops on D and made a few, not just one by one player but a few mistakes down the stretch

foul trouble on the bigs was a problem too but Memphis is hard to contain in the paint so not unexpected

good game (fun to watch) all in all certainly nothing to whine about other than they lost


Hey GTS, imagine this team IF Pau had stayed and we signed Marc?

-Marc
-Pau
-KB

Would just need to pick up soem shooters and a defensive PG. Team would be amazing playmaking wise.