Kobe Bryant freaked out on Jeremy Lin for following Byron Scott's orders

[tomtucker]

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/01/kobe-bryant-freaked-out-on-jeremy-lin-for-following-byron-scotts-orders
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great gif. .........:D

[sportjames23]

Alpha

[HOoopCityJones]

Byron's an idiot too then.

[HurricaneKid]

Yeah I'm all for piling on Kobe but he isn't wrong. Scott is an idiot. I understand if you want to trap a guy and see if you can get a TO first but to tell your team to let valuable time run off the clock when you are losing is laughable.

Scott said they were only going to get the one equalizing shot and that was his rationale. Instead they got THREE. This shows an abject lack of understanding of today's game.

[Yao Ming's Foot]

Deadspin with the correct title...

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[lilteapot]

Good. I hope he gave Scott an earful too but he probably didn't.

[UK2K]

All that tells us is Kobe knows more then his coach.

If it's under 24 seconds and you're down, why waste any time off the clock?

They had a last second three to tie, but had they not waited'until 10 seconds left cause it doesn't really matter'they could have had an extra 3-5 seconds to get off a better shot.

If anything, Kobe should be mad good NBA coach doesn't know simple basketball strategy. There is no logical reason to wait an additional five seconds to foul, and it most certainly 'matters' when it's a one point game.

Kobe is right.

[Magic 32]

I don't think Scott wanted Lin to just stand there.

[KungFuJoe]

I don't think Scott wanted Lin to just stand there.

That's pretty much EXACTLY what he wanted Lin to do.

It was a time management decision. Scott wasn't trying to go for the steal and then foul. He was saving time outs.

Of course I think that's a stupid decision but if you're not the superstar you listen to the coach.

[Magic 32]

It was a time management decision.


How?

If you don't pressure the ball it makes no sense to wait.

[Micku]

How?

If you don't pressure the ball it makes no sense to wait.

He wanted to waste time on the clock to the ten second mark. Memphis also wanted to waste time on the clock as well, hence Mike Conley was just standing there dribbling and Lin doing nothing.

They should've tried to pressure him to get a turnover and then foul, but nope.

[Magic 32]

He wanted to waste time on the clock to the ten second mark.

Ok, but it makes no sense.

[Micku]

Ok, but it makes no sense.

Indeed. That's what ppl are saying. Scott made no sense.

[HOoopCityJones]

I hope Byron was just protecting Lin and knows that wasn't the right call to make.

[RidonKs]

lol it was hilarious, you could even hear him shouting "foul! FOUL!!!!" on the telecast

[Magic 32]

Indeed. That's what ppl are saying. Scott made no sense.

But Lin compounded the problem by not doing anything that made sense as well. He could have pressured the ball, gone for a steal. Just something.

[Mr.Kite]

This guy jeremy lin is the dumbest harvard grad in the world. Insults the school.

I think this guy is a grade A scrub.

[AirFederer]

This guy jeremy lin is the dumbest harvard grad in the world. Insults the school.

I think this guy is a grade A scrub.
Scrub for following coach direct order? :facepalm

Kobe doing teambuilding again :lol

[gts]

I don't think Scott wanted Lin to just stand there.No he didn't, Lin was supposed to pressure the ball past the half court line and go for a turnover first or foul while going for the turnover

[LALakerFan4Life]

This guy jeremy lin is the dumbest harvard grad in the world. Insults the school.

I think this guy is a grade A scrub.
Lin was just following orders. Byron told him to foul Conley at the 10 second mark which is stupid. Lin ask him if he was sure if he wanted him to do that 3 times and Byron said "yes."

[KungFuJoe]

It's pathetic how some people are trying to blame Lin for this. Dude gets more hate than anyone in the NBA.

Only reason Kobe was yelling "foul foul!" was because Scott didn't tell him anything...just told Lin to wait for ten seconds then foul. He didn't say to pressure the ball and if you're Lin you don't because you don't want to piss off the coach.

Scott made a mind boggling move. And he definitely ain't trying to protect Lin. Trust me Scott would throw the whole team, with Kobe, under the bus if it meant his job.

[bluechox2]

Kobe mad because he was left out of the Lakers game plan, then made to look like a fool when everyone agreed to waiting to foul at 10 seconds left while Kobe looked Like an idiot running half way to foul

[navy]

Tanking

[MavsSuperFan]

It's pathetic how some people are trying to blame Lin for this. Dude gets more hate than anyone in the NBA.

Only reason Kobe was yelling "foul foul!" was because Scott didn't tell him anything...just told Lin to wait for ten seconds then foul. He didn't say to pressure the ball and if you're Lin you don't because you don't want to piss off the coach.

Scott made a mind boggling move. And he definitely ain't trying to protect Lin. Trust me Scott would throw the whole team, with Kobe, under the bus if it meant his job.
If his coach told him to jump off a bridge would he?

In that situation the fact that he looked over at the coach is an indictment against him. Why the **** would you wait till 10secs left to foul?

[Blue&Orange]

It would debatable if Lakers were going for a steal, now letting the clock run out while standing still is just surreal.

[oh the horror]

It would debatable if Lakers were going for a steal, now letting the clock run out while standing still is just surreal.



At this point in his career Jeremy should know better you'd think.


I'm sure Byron wouldn't have cried if Lin pressured the ball

[guy]

I usually jump at the chance to criticize Kobe, but this isn't a big deal. Just a breakdown in communication and him understandably not realizing that the coach wanted to take an unconventional approach.

[UK2K]

Scrub for following coach direct order? :facepalm

Kobe doing teambuilding again :lol
Kobe was right, 100%.

[Micku]

But Lin compounded the problem by not doing anything that made sense as well. He could have pressured the ball, gone for a steal. Just something.

Yeah, he could've. He didn't take initiative or anything and listened to his coach all the way through even though it was a bad idea apparently.

[ihatetimthomas]

If his coach told him to jump off a bridge would he?

In that situation the fact that he looked over at the coach is an indictment against him. Why the **** would you wait till 10secs left to foul?

You do as the coach says, plain and simple. He got in trouble earlier in the season for not hearing Scott correctly and was roasted for it. He wasn't about to make the same mistake and undermine the coach.

[Doranku]

What in the f*ck? What rationale could there POSSIBLY be for waiting until the 10 second mark to foul?

How could giving yourself less time when you're losing ever be a good idea?

[Nowitness]

Just like the Kobe of 06 (where he also missed the playoffs, lol).

[Doranku]

Just like the Kobe of 06 (where he also missed the playoffs, lol).
Kobe didn't miss the playoffs in '06 lmao. Why do people post such uneducated nonsense when it would take two seconds to look up the correct information?

Literally braindead.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Kobe didn't miss the playoffs in '06 lmao. Why do people post such uneducated nonsense when it would take two seconds to look up the correct information?

Literally braindead.

F*cked up thing is, that guy is "TLP", the crazed Duncan fan. Or at least he was exposed as him.

Creepy, new-wave fans. Damn.

[Real Men Wear Green]

If his coach told him to jump off a bridge would he?

In that situation the fact that he looked over at the coach is an indictment against him. Why the **** would you wait till 10secs left to foul?
Scott may have thought they should first try to force a turnover and then 10 seconds would be enough time to get a decent shot. And maybe that's the wrong call, I'd foul myself and Lin wasn't going for a steal, but this is all the secondary point. Here's what's important:

Lin was told to foul at the 10 second mark.

He didn't do a good job of pressuring the ball but it seems apparent that he got frozen by conflicting orders. On the one hand he has his coach's instruction and on the other hand the star player is telling him something else. His response, looking around and doing nothing, isn't ideal but he was in an unfair position. People are wrong to expect Lin to defy his coach's order. One of the first things your taught is to listen to your coach. He doesn't have Bryant's cache that he can do whatever he wants sans repercussion, he can find himself on the end of the bench for disobedience.

Blame Scott for bad strategy or Bryant for countermanding orders. Don't blame Lin for getting caught in the crossfire. He was basically a car whose driver mashed the gas and brake at the same time.

[IamRAMBO24]

What in the f*ck? What rationale could there POSSIBLY be for waiting until the 10 second mark to foul?

How could giving yourself less time when you're losing ever be a good idea?

When a shot takes less than a second to shoot, having one more timeout to call that last play at 0.7 seconds can either make or break a game. Scott was running down the clock to save his timeouts.

Why did Scott tell the whole team and not Kobe?

[JellyBean]

:facepalm Just mind numbing watching the greatest franchise in NBA history this out of sync. These are the Lakers for crying out loud!! Just unwatchable. I find myself trying not to watch the Lakers now on League Pass.

[L.Kizzle]

Lin was probably supposed to put mad pressure on the ball and if no luck by the ten second mark, foul.

Not stand there with a stick up his ass until the ten seconds.

[Doranku]

When a shot takes less than a second to shoot, having one more timeout to call that last play at 0.7 seconds can either make or break a game. Scott was running down the clock to save his timeouts.

Why did Scott tell the whole team and not Kobe?

The Lakers had THREE timeouts left at that point, so this theory doesn't make sense.

Even when Conley saw Kobe running at him and started to make a move, Lin's dumbass looked like he was just gonna try to play defense as usual and not foul (this was with 12 seconds left btw).

I think the whole 10 second thing is Scott taking the blame for Lin being a retard. It just doesn't make sense.

[ArbitraryWater]

Haha thats funny..

Kobe takin' matters into his own hands cause the others are incapable.


F*cked up thing is, that guy is "TLP", the crazed Duncan fan. Or at least he was exposed as him.

Creepy, new-wave fans. Damn.

Huh? Thats not him..

[DMAVS41]

What in the f*ck? What rationale could there POSSIBLY be for waiting until the 10 second mark to foul?

How could giving yourself less time when you're losing ever be a good idea?

None.

You guys have a ****ing moron for a coach.

[Milbuck]

F*cked up thing is, that guy is "TLP", the crazed Duncan fan. Or at least he was exposed as him.

Creepy, new-wave fans. Damn.
:wtf: When did this happen?

[kentatm]

If his coach told him to jump off a bridge would he?


:rolleyes: :lol

yea, totally comparable situations.



In that situation the fact that he looked over at the coach is an indictment against him. Why the **** would you wait till 10secs left to foul?

if Rick Carlisle tells a Mav to wait to foul I expect them to listen b/c if they don't they would be in his doghouse. Doesn't matter if its screwed up, you are taught to listen to your coach if you want to last in the league.

[Magic 32]

Don't blame Lin for getting caught in the crossfire.

There was no crossfire.

Just Kobe trying to save two idiots.

[Real Men Wear Green]

There was no crossfire.

Just Kobe trying to save two idiots.
As the head coach Scott is Lin's boss. Doing what Scott says is his job. Bryant then yelling at him to foul counters Scott's instruction and thus creates confusion for Lin. Is this something for which Lin deserves major blame? How many of you are told to do something by your coach or boss, don't do it and figure that's ok?

[Da KO King]

Jeremy Lin HAS to listen to Byron Scott; Kobe Bryant has free reign to make logical decisions regardless of Scott's reluctance to do so.

[Doranku]

As the head coach Scott is Lin's boss. Doing what Scott says is his job. Bryant then yelling at him to foul counters Scott's instruction and thus creates confusion for Lin. Is this something for which Lin deserves major blame? How many of you are told to do something by your coach or boss, don't do it and figure that's ok?

Where's the excuse for Lin never putting pressure on the ball, even before Kobe started to yell at him?

Lin literally let Conley walk up the court and then dribble the ball for a good 10 seconds while standing there doing nothing. You're telling me that's what Scott told him to do?

[Nuff Said]

Where's the excuse for Lin never putting pressure on the ball, even before Kobe started to yell at him?

Lin literally let Conley walk up the court and then dribble the ball for a good 10 seconds while standing there doing nothing. You're telling me that's what Scott told him to do?
Maybe he was thinking of not accidentally committing a foul before the ten seconds?

[Doranku]

Maybe he was thinking of not accidentally committing a foul before the ten seconds?
So you're telling me that Jeremy Lin, an NBA basketball player who started for the most prestigious franchise in basketball, doesn't have the confidence in himself to put pressure on a ball handler without fouling?

:oldlol: There must be a lot of Asians on ISH. It's insane to see the lengths that people will go to defend this bonehead.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Where's the excuse for Lin never putting pressure on the ball, even before Kobe started to yell at him?

Lin literally let Conley walk up the court and then dribble the ball for a good 10 seconds while standing there doing nothing. You're telling me that's what Scott told him to do?
He was trying not to foul and he has the contrary mental input of Bryant telling him to foul that's making him freeze up. I think that Scott probably told them to try for a steal and pressure so that would be a bit of a failing but it's known that Scott told them not to foul until the 10 second mark.

[Magic 32]

He was trying not to foul and he has the contrary mental input of Bryant telling him to foul that's making him freeze up. I think that Scott probably told them to try for a steal and pressure so that would be a bit of a failing but it's known that Scott told them not to foul until the 10 second mark.

Lin said he did not hear Bryant.

[KungFuJoe]

The reason why Lin doesn't pressure Conley? Because apparently he only told Lin to foul at ten seconds. Kobe obviously had no clue so its safe to assume that perhaps other guys didn't know either.

If Lin pressures Conley might go by him or he might pass the ball and then Lin can't foul and he doesn't follow orders and gets the blame.

Lin had specific orders: foul at ten seconds.

He did what it would take to make sure he was able to follow those orders.

It was a dumb move by Scott but Lin did EXACTLY what he was supposed to do.

[oarabbus]

So you're telling me that Jeremy Lin, an NBA basketball player who started for the most prestigious franchise in basketball, doesn't have the confidence in himself to put pressure on a ball handler without fouling?

:oldlol: There must be a lot of Asians on ISH. It's insane to see the lengths that people will go to defend this bonehead.



Lin outscores, shoots 22% better, and has less TOs than Kobe and Kobestans blame Lin for the loss :roll:

Kobestans never cease to amaze

[gts]

y'all still talking about this... :lol

"Yeah, I told him to wait until we got pass half-court," Scott told the press. "Then we want to foul by the 10-second mark."

not until the 10 second mark but by the 10 second mark

Remember the Lakers did not call a time out after Kobe's made 3 so any discussion between Scott and Lin was in game

http://i58.tinypic.com/20far1w.jpg


but Kobe on the floor being the floor general told the team to foul right away

Right after hitting the trey, Bryant instructed his team to foul immediately to give them another chance to go for the win or tie the ball game. But Lin seemed to be not paying attention in that particular ball possession, prompting Bryant to go all the way mid-court and foul Mike Conley with 12 seconds remaining on the clock.

That's where the confusion was, Kobe made one call on the fly in game, Scott made another but Lin was the only one who knew what Scott wanted

[IamRAMBO24]

The Lakers had THREE timeouts left at that point, so this theory doesn't make sense.

Even when Conley saw Kobe running at him and started to make a move, Lin's dumbass looked like he was just gonna try to play defense as usual and not foul (this was with 12 seconds left btw).

I think the whole 10 second thing is Scott taking the blame for Lin being a retard. It just doesn't make sense.

I believe he said he had 2. Foul at 10 seconds. Call timeout at. Score. Foul again. He wanted to be at the 2 second mark and have one time out for a 3 point game winner.

Sounds pretty reasonable to me.

[IamRAMBO24]

So you're telling me that Jeremy Lin, an NBA basketball player who started for the most prestigious franchise in basketball, doesn't have the confidence in himself to put pressure on a ball handler without fouling?

:oldlol: There must be a lot of Asians on ISH. It's insane to see the lengths that people will go to defend this bonehead.

Dude was doing what he was told. There was a strategy. He stuck to the plan. Did Scott say put pressure on the ball and go for a steal? No. He said wait 10 seconds and then foul, I got a plan. Lin prob didn't want to put pressure because he might end up fouling.

[IamRAMBO24]

y'all still talking about this... :lol

"Yeah, I told him to wait until we got pass half-court," Scott told the press. "Then we want to foul by the 10-second mark."

not until the 10 second mark but by the 10 second mark

Remember the Lakers did not call a time out after Kobe's made 3 so any discussion between Scott and Lin was in game

http://i58.tinypic.com/20far1w.jpg


but Kobe on the floor being the floor general told the team to foul right away

Right after hitting the trey, Bryant instructed his team to foul immediately to give them another chance to go for the win or tie the ball game. But Lin seemed to be not paying attention in that particular ball possession, prompting Bryant to go all the way mid-court and foul Mike Conley with 12 seconds remaining on the clock.

That's where the confusion was, Kobe made one call on the fly in game, Scott made another but Lin was the only one who knew what Scott wanted

That's the root of the problem. Kobe thinks he runs the team but little does he know nobody on the team respects him. He should of stuck with Scott's plan. Maybe they would of won this ball game.

[IamRAMBO24]

As the head coach Scott is Lin's boss. Doing what Scott says is his job. Bryant then yelling at him to foul counters Scott's instruction and thus creates confusion for Lin. Is this something for which Lin deserves major blame? How many of you are told to do something by your coach or boss, don't do it and figure that's ok?

Or did Kobe try to take the reigns and over ride Scott's decision? Surely he should of known Scott wanted to foul at 10 seconds. If he told the guys otherwise then this could be a bigger issue than Lin.

[ZMonkey11]

This guy jeremy lin is the dumbest harvard grad in the world. Insults the school.

I think this guy is a grade A scrub.

Kind of like being the ugliest Sports Illustrated Swimsuit model.:confusedshrug:

[longtime lurker]

That's the root of the problem. Kobe thinks he runs the team but little does he know nobody on the team respects him. He should of stuck with Scott's plan. Maybe they would of won this ball game.

Scott's plan was beyond idiotic. How do they win with less time on the clock than they actually ended up with?

[IamRAMBO24]

Scott's plan was beyond idiotic. How do they win with less time on the clock than they actually ended up with?

I like it. The score was tied. You give them 2 points. You make sure you score on an easy basket. Foul immediately. You get one more timeout for a catch and shoot to tie it up or win. I think Scott wanted 1-2 seconds to run a Derek Fisher-esque play.

At least it's a strategy. It's better than having Kobe run down the clock and just chucking it up with no plan whatsoever.

[gts]

I like it. The score was tied. You give them 2 points. You make sure you score on an easy basket. Foul immediately. You get one more timeout for a catch and shoot to tie it up or win. I think Scott wanted 1-2 seconds to run a Derek Fisher-esque play.

At least it's a strategy. It's better than having Kobe run down the clock and just chucking it up with no plan whatsoever.
:facepalm moron didn't even watch the game
go back to discussing there's rats and monkeys or whatever they were living on mars

[navy]

The score was tied.
False.

[IamRAMBO24]

The score was 106-105. Typo. Bottomline, he wanted that last timeout for the last play. Give them 2 freethrows at 10 seconds. They are up by 3. Go for an easy basket. Foul again. If they miss a shot, it's a game winner. If they don't, it's overtime. Any plan is better than Kobe ball at this point.

[keep-itreal]

If you're an alpha like Kobe, you wouldn't care what the coach says and you'd foul right away.

Lin is too beta.

[IamRAMBO24]

:facepalm moron didn't even watch the game
go back to discussing there's rats and monkeys or whatever they were living on mars

Lizard, trees, and guinea pig.

[KungFuJoe]

The score was 106-105. Typo. Bottomline, he wanted that last timeout for the last play. Give them 2 freethrows at 10 seconds. They are up by 3. Go for an easy basket. Foul again. If they miss a shot, it's a game winner. If they don't, it's overtime. Any plan is better than Kobe ball at this point.

Dude...this makes no sense. They are up by 3. Go for an easy basket? Since when is three to tie ever an easy basket??

[ImKobe]

The score was 106-105. Typo. Bottomline, he wanted that last timeout for the last play. Give them 2 freethrows at 10 seconds. They are up by 3. Go for an easy basket. Foul again. If they miss a shot, it's a game winner. If they don't, it's overtime. Any plan is better than Kobe ball at this point.

Dude, THEY HAD THREE TIMEOUTS,, but there was 24.2 seconds remaining in the game with 24 seconds on the shot clock, that means Conley could hold the ball until there was .2 left in the game, he could dribble it out and put it up in the last second and Lakers don't even get a shot...

Conley missed one of two free throws and it was a 2-point game with 12 seconds remaining, Kobe went for the 2 and was met by Marc Gasol at the rim, the obvious play was to dish it to Ed Davis, who had an open look at the rim, but Kobe's defender (I think it was Allen) reacted before Kobe even made the pass and hard fouled Davis, who missed the 2nd FT to tie the game with 3.2 seconds remaining...