Why has Kendall Marshall not been given a fair shot?

[Milbuck]

He has truly excellent court vision..he's not huge like Lebron/Magic or quick as **** like Westbrook or Wall, he doesn't have the physical tools to be a superstar..but his passes are precise, well-timed, smart. He makes everyone around him better..if you need someone to run your offense like a true PG and get everyone good looks, he's an extremely promising young player. Guys who are absolute trash on our team like Johnny O'Bryant have some sliver of value on court when he's running things.

I don't know how it's taken Kidd, a guy all time great vision, this long to start to ramping up Marshall's offensive responsibility over Knight..but it's about damn time.

Phoenix has enough quality PGs so I guess they didn't mess up..but the Lakers really did imo. This dude has an extremely valuable skill, and the rest of his game is catching up to halfway decent levels (jumper, defense, etc).

His numbers don't stand out whatsoever, not even close to it..and he's never going to be an all-star..but watching the games and seeing his influence on how smoothly our offense runs when he's out there..I don't understand how this dude has been neglected and thrown around the league as a young player. Maybe he's taken huge strides in his game this year, and I didn't watch enough of him before he joined the Bucks..

[Mr.Kite]

besides passing, none of his other skills are on par

[hawkfan]

He has truly excellent court vision..he's not huge like Lebron/Magic or quick as **** like Westbrook or Wall, he doesn't have the physical tools to be a superstar..but his passes are precise, well-timed, smart. He makes everyone around him better..if you need someone to run your offense like a true PG and get everyone good looks, he's an extremely promising young player. Guys who are absolute trash on our team like Johnny O'Bryant have some sliver of value on court when he's running things.

I don't know how it's taken Kidd, a guy all time great vision, this long to start to ramping up Marshall's offensive responsibility over Knight..but it's about damn time.

Phoenix has enough quality PGs so I guess they didn't mess up..but the Lakers really did imo. This dude has an extremely valuable skill, and the rest of his game is catching up to halfway decent levels (jumper, defense, etc).

His numbers don't stand out whatsoever, not even close to it..and he's never going to be an all-star..but watching the games and seeing his influence on how smoothly our offense runs when he's out there..I don't understand how this dude has been neglected and thrown around the league as a young player. Maybe he's taken huge strides in his game this year, and I didn't watch enough of him before he joined the Bucks..

Kidd knows the point guard position - big influence.

[Milbuck]

besides passing, none of his other skills are on par
Given how raw other young players are, isn't that something he should be allowed to work on? I mean the dude hasn't been an atrocious defender with the Bucks, he at the very least works hard and doesn't let opposing PGs go off on him..and he's shooting 39% from 3.. I think his passing, ability to control the tempo of the game, overall intelligence as a floor general at a young age outweighs his weaknesses, which again, seem to be fixable to some extent. Lakers would love him right about now, with their PG situation.

[Mr.Kite]

Given how raw other young players are, isn't that something he should be allowed to work on? I mean the dude hasn't been an atrocious defender with the Bucks, he at the very least works hard and doesn't let opposing PGs go off on him..and he's shooting 39% from 3.. I think his passing, ability to control the tempo of the game, overall intelligence as a floor general at a young age outweighs his weaknesses, which again, seem to be fixable to some extent. Lakers would love him right about now, with their PG situation.

He's also a poor teammate and players for contracts

but he's probably better than ronnie price

[hawkfan]

Given how raw other young players are, isn't that something he should be allowed to work on? I mean the dude hasn't been an atrocious defender with the Bucks, he at the very least works hard and doesn't let opposing PGs go off on him..and he's shooting 39% from 3.. I think his passing, ability to control the tempo of the game, overall intelligence as a floor general at a young age outweighs his weaknesses, which again, seem to be fixable to some extent. Lakers would love him right about now, with their PG situation.

Point guards are like quarterbacks, and they often take time to develop.
Marshall appears to be getting better after bouncing around.
But he did have a very good point guard coach in D'Antoni and now has Kidd, so that is a big factor in his development.
In his other situations, he may not have gotten any opportunity.
Consider yourself as a Bucks fan fortunate.

[Milbuck]

Point guards are like quarterbacks, and they often take time to develop.
Marshall appears to be getting better after bouncing around.
But he did have a very good point guard coach in D'Antoni and now has Kidd, so that is a big factor in his development.
In his other situations, he may not have gotten any opportunity.
Consider yourself as a Bucks fan fortunate.
Eh I think if the Lakers kept him he'd get his chances, I see no way Price and Lin with how terrible he's been at times, rob him of all playing time. At some point or another I think he would've broke through to the starting lineup.

Yeah he's definitely been a steal for us though. Just gotta get rid of Knight and hand over the PG keys to Marshall entirely and we should be solid at that position going forward. And with Henson stepping up in Larry's absence we just need a backup PF or off the ball offensive SG.

[el gringos]

Eh I think if the Lakers kept him he'd get his chances, I see no way Price and Lin with how terrible he's been at times, rob him of all playing time. At some point or another I think he would've broke through to the starting lineup.

Yeah he's definitely been a steal for us though. Just gotta get rid of Knight and hand over the PG keys to Marshall entirely and we should be solid at that position going forward. And with Henson stepping up in Larry's absence we just need a backup PF or off the ball offensive SG.
Hardaway jr and Larkin for knight

[no pun intended]

Given how raw other young players are, isn't that something he should be allowed to work on? I mean the dude hasn't been an atrocious defender with the Bucks, he at the very least works hard and doesn't let opposing PGs go off on him..and he's shooting 39% from 3.. I think his passing, ability to control the tempo of the game, overall intelligence as a floor general at a young age outweighs his weaknesses, which again, seem to be fixable to some extent. Lakers would love him right about now, with their PG situation.
Nah we're good. If you saw him play each game, he didn't really make a big difference last year as his stats would suggest.

[Milbuck]

Hardaway jr and Larkin for knight
Yes without hesitation.
Nah we're good. If you saw him play each game, he didn't really make a big difference last year as his stats would suggest.
I've seen most of his games this year and he's been good for us. I guess part of it might be coaching?

[buddha]

probably cause his defense is terrible and is jumper is whack.

if he got on whatever supps LeBron is and worked on quickening his release he'd be a starter.

[Droid101]

Cheers Milbuck. I just went to the Bucks@Clips game a couple of weeks back. These kids are going to be trouble for their first round opponent for sure. Will Parker be back if they do indeed make the playoffs/second round?

[Milbuck]

probably cause his defense is terrible and is jumper is whack.

if he got on whatever supps LeBron is and worked on quickening his release he'd be a starter.
His defense hasn't been terrible and his jumper has been decent. Shooting 39% from 3, albeit low volume. And even if neither of that was true, his passing/playmaking impacts our offense positively way more than those flaws do negatively. Like I said earlier, maybe he busted his ass in the offseason and coaching has something to do with his defensive non-shittiness. But for a 23 year old PG he looks really promising, and like a potential long-term piece here.

[Milbuck]

Cheers Milbuck. I just went to the Bucks@Clips game a couple of weeks back. These kids are going to be trouble for their first round opponent for sure. Will Parker be back if they do indeed make the playoffs/second round?
:cheers: It's all about Sanders imo as far as the playoffs are concerned. If we get Larry at his defensive best we could give any of the top 5 teams trouble, although we'd lose. Cleveland especially, if Henson/Sanders/Zaza are all healthy we could really give them trouble. Jabari's out for the season I'm pretty sure, ACL surgery coming up and the typical ~8+ month timetable. He and Giannis are gonna be a problem next year and beyond though, especially with no dominant team in the conference like in the West.

[Magic731]

Everyone said that Marshall's numbers last year were a product of Dantoni. Still think you are heavily underrating Knight.

[russwest0]

OT but I think Kidd was a great pick up for the Bucks if only because he's such a good mentor for young stars, that he'd be at worst a great transitional coach to help develop the young guys for the future when the Bucks are potentially contending and can hire another coach.

In regards to Kendall Marshall I think defense and the state of the league are his biggest set backs.

Coaches are looking for point guards who are constantly in attack mode now it seems like. Guys who slow down and play at a smoother pace seem to be a dying breed now.

[coin24]

Great passes has excellent court vision and can hit the 3 pretty well.. Played great for the lakers..

[hawkfan]

Milbuck,

One of the big things that separates winning teams from losing teams is the ability to take journeyman, maximize their skills, and utilize them.

The Hawks did that with Carroll. He is a hardworking guy, very popular, and contributes (although I would prefer he were a backup, he is still a very solid player).

Marshall is an example of why the Bucks are having a good season. They picked him up when nobody wanted him, and now they may have a rotation player for the next 8 years. And hopefully he can improve his defense, outside shooting, and other areas. Sounds like he will.

Teams that lose have a problem finding these types of guys.

Good on the Bucks.

[ImKobe]

inconsistent shooter (only good when WIDE open)
medicore defender at best
can't create his own shot
slow

dude's just not starting PG material, he isn't really built for the NBA, I bet he'd have a great career in Euroleague

[tragicbronson]

Always loved his game, one of the very few true point guards in the league but lacks overall athleticism to be a starting point guard IMO. I enjoy watching him displaying his basketball iq and vision on the floor and hope he'll get as much playing time as he can.

As the guy mentioned above, i can almost guarantee that he'd be a coach's favourite in Euroleague, see Acie Law, and Marshall is clearly a lot better.

[noob cake]

inconsistent shooter (only good when WIDE open)
worst in the league defender at best
can't create his own shot
slow

dude's just not starting PG material, he isn't really built for the NBA, I bet he'd have a great career in Euroleague

Let me fix that for you.

No-name point guards were blowing past Marshall in college. He literally cannot play defense at NBA level. He is slower laterally than 40 year old Steve Nash.