MVP Dirk losing to an 8th seed in '07

[longhornfan1234]

The worst choke job by a top 25 player in history?

[SexSymbol]

LeBron 11
Wilt's numerous ones

[longhornfan1234]

LeBron 11
Wilt's numerous ones


Nah... How's there ever been a MVP of the league who got bounced by an 8th seed ?

[Beastmode88]

Kobe in 2006 vs the suns is up there as well. But bran takes the cake in 2011.

[Eric Cartman]

To be fair, that Golden State team sweept them in the rs.

[Shih508]

Kobe in 2006 vs the suns is up there as well. But bran takes the cake in 2011.

Kobe was never a true mvp in the league so he wouldn't have this sort of choke jobs.

[Shep]

Not even the worst of THAT Postseason which was Dwyane Wade's choke job getting swept out of the first round.

[SamuraiSWISH]

LeBron's 2011 / Dirk's 2007 indistinguishably, both indiscriminately embarrassing.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Dirks choke in game 3 of the finals the year before was pretty bad too.

[SexSymbol]

Also, remember the spurs losing to the grizz in the first round as a first seed.
One of the most underrated choke jobs ever

[SamuraiSWISH]

Kobe's 2004 deserves mention

[SexSymbol]

Kobe's 2004 deserves mention
I think we should seperate playing like shit and not trying at all (choking)
at least kobe tried, he just played like shit

[TheMarkMadsen]

Getting ripped by Nick Anderson is up there

[Rose'sACL]

I think we should seperate playing like shit and not trying at all (choking)
at least kobe tried, he just played like shit
wow.....ISH keeps surprising me. kobe's 2004 is up there with lebron's 2011 finals as one of the worst by a great player.
Dirk's 2007 was way worse though. he had close to lebron's 2011 numbers while shooting 38.3% and this was in the first round unlike kobe and lebron's performance which were in the finals.

[SCdac]

man, "top-25 players" encompasses so many years of ball, it's tough to narrow it down. I'll say that it was definitely one of the worst playoff collapses I've seen live from a player in an MVP season. Dirk had to take some time to himself in the Outback after that, can't really blame him. For such a prolific 3-point shooter to go so cold from beyond the arch (.21%) and in general (.38%) was definitely surprising. And his lack of post game at the time got exposed (he got better though). Josh Howard, who had questionable bball IQ but was an All-Star that season, managed to have a good series but GSW had Dirk locked down

[tpols]

I think we should seperate playing like shit and not trying at all (choking)
at least kobe tried, he just played like shit

Yup.. LeBron had worse stats getting bounced in 08 and 07 than 2011 but he didn't choke there really.. Just ran into some really great defenses.

Detroit, Boston, San Antonio defense >>> golden state and Dallas by every measure. There's no explanation for playing as subpar as they did against those defenses other than choking.

[goldcrow]

How about the Kobe's back2back defending champions getting swept in the 2011 playoffs? :confusedshrug:

[Cone]

dirk is top 17-20. gtfo with '25'. no way theres 25 people over Dirk.

in terms of choke jobs, the spurs circle of choke the last few years is at the top.

or rose in 2011 (not a top 200 player tho) . kobe in 04,07,08,10,11

[Budadiiii]

What about Rose in 2011?

[huskerdu]

Also, remember the spurs losing to the grizz in the first round as a first seed.
One of the most underrated choke jobs ever


Ginobili was injured and the Grizzlies were injured for the first half of that season. They were probably the greatest 8th seed in history.

[masonanddixon]

Ginobili was injured and the Grizzlies were injured for the first half of that season. They were probably the greatest 8th seed in history.

So what you're saying is Duncan can't win as the man?

[Magic 32]

How about the Kobe's back2back defending champions getting swept in the 2011 playoffs? :confusedshrug:

Maybe because Kobe's couldn't walk without turning an ankle.

[Beastmode88]

What about Rose in 2011?

If you bring rose up then you gotta bring up kobe in 2011. 0-4 to mavs as a back to back championship team vs mavs. 40 point loss in the closing game.

[moaz]

MVP, FMVP, Ring, HoF, 12

[brain drain]

Dallas vs Golden State was a special case for four reasons:

#1 The 2007 Golden State Warriors made a big trade in January, and after they had some time to gel, they played much better than your average #8 seed. IIRC they had one of the best records after the all star game. So, while they were technically an #8 seed, their actual level of play in the spring of 2007 was much higher than your typical #8 seed.

#2 GSW was a bad matchup for Dallas, they swept their regular season matches.

#3 Don Nelson was a master of gimmicky tactics, and he knew Dirk inside and out.

#4 Avery Johnson was a stubborn idiot who was really bad at making proper adjustments.

So, to sum it up, it was a perfect storm situation.

[VIP2000]

Dallas vs Golden State was a special case for four reasons:

#1 The 2007 Golden State Warriors made a big trade in January, and after they had some time to gel, they played much better than your average #8 seed. IIRC they had one of the best records after the all star game. So, while they were technically an #8 seed, their actual level of play in the spring of 2007 was much higher than your typical #8 seed.

#2 GSW was a bad matchup for Dallas, they swept their regular season matches.

#3 Don Nelson was a master of gimmicky tactics, and he knew Dirk inside and out.

#4 Avery Johnson was a stubborn idiot who was really bad at making proper adjustments.

So, to sum it up, it was a perfect storm situation.

I get that GSW was a bad matchup for Dallas, but it's not like they were contenders. They got dismantled in the next round by Utah.

[T_L_P]

So what you're saying is Duncan can't win as the man?

Just look at the 2012 Mavs who were missing Chandler.

Then look at Dirk's ring count without him.

Coincidence?

[masonanddixon]

Just look at the 2012 Mavs who were missing Chandler.

Then look at Dirk's ring count without him.

Coincidence?

No shit, Duncan is obviously better than Dirk. I was just using that idiot's retarded logic back at him.

[sonicman]

I remember thinking that year that if they have to play GSW in the playoffs, they're losing... if they play anyone else, they'll win the championship.

[Undisputed]

Dirk's lucky he won a championship in his career after the '07 fail.

[Lebron23]

Dirk's lucky he won a championship in his career after the '07 fail.


Thanks to Lebron's huge meltdown.

[dunksby]

If you bring rose up then you gotta bring up kobe in 2011. 0-4 to mavs as a back to back championship team vs mavs. 40 point loss in the closing game.
Mavs got swept as the defending champs too.

[masonanddixon]

Mavs got swept as the defending champs too.

lol by the team that made the Finals.

[Akrazotile]

Kobe in 2006 vs the suns is up there as well. But bran takes the cake in 2011.


Except Kobe is not top 25

[Silverbullit]

Mavs got swept as the defending champs too.

Kobe did it with HCA :-)

[R.I.P.]

Thanks to Lebron's huge meltdown.

Don

[Dresta]

[QUOTE=R.I.P.]Don

[Beastmode88]

Except Kobe is not top 25

:wtf: :wtf:

[dunksby]

lol by the team that made the Finals.
And that Mavs team which swept the Lakers won the title? There is nothing wrong with getting swept or getting bounced as defending champs since you have proven you got what it takes.