How much money will Draymond Green command?

[Inferno]

:pimp:

[oarabbus]

I don't know, but we're gonna have to pay a pretty penny to keep him this summer

[LoneyROY7]

Parsons-esque contract.

[navy]

10-15 million a year for 4 years.

[Bobcats2013]

He's worth every dime.

[SillyRabbit]

Close to, if not max.

He's worth it too.

[Heavincent]

He's worth every dime.

This.

DPoY

[SwishSquared]

Some team is gonna throw him $15M/year for 3-4 years. Although he's a bit short, provides some rim protection and can reasonably switch onto most guys in the league. Plus he hits 3s at a decent clip. Granted, if he plays on a less talented roster, I wonder how his effectiveness would fair.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

He'll be worth whatever he gets. I would max him (what is it 15 ish mil for your first max?)

[bdreason]

He'll get $10-12M per year. No way we can afford to keep him, unless we trade away Lee and/or Iggy. Lee will be an expirer, but I don't think anyone wants Iggy's contract.

Honestly, I would rather pay Green the money Iggy is getting, but we can't afford to pay both of those guys that much. I'm also not sure how great Draymond is gonna play if he ends up on a team as the 2nd or 3rd option. I love me some Draygod, but he's playing with a stacked offensive lineup right now.

[T_L_P]

Hopefully we can throw the max at him.

[navy]

Hopefully we can throw the max at him.
Kawhi Leonard.

[Pushxx]

I got a ton of respect for Green, and he'll make around the max, but he's only able to perform at this level because his team is so talented, balanced, and well-coached.

He's a specialist...a 4th-best player kind of guy. It's dangerous to offer him more than $12 million.

[kurple]

He'll get $10-12M per year. No way we can afford to keep him, unless we trade away Lee and/or Iggy. Lee will be an expirer, but I don't think anyone wants Iggy's contract.

Honestly, I would rather pay Green the money Iggy is getting, but we can't afford to pay both of those guys that much. I'm also not sure how great Draymond is gonna play if he ends up on a team as the 2nd or 3rd option. I love me some Draygod, but he's playing with a stacked offensive lineup right now.
i always knew we'd be happy iggy chose GSW, but i didnt think it would happen this soon. he had what, one semi-decent year

[All Net]

Close to max I would expect. Guess it depends if he gives GS a discount. Luckily GS got a bargain when they signed Curry and Klay too really when he settled for less than max deal.

[HurricaneKid]

Close to max I would expect. Guess it depends if he gives GS a discount. Luckily GS got a bargain when they signed Curry and Klay too really when he settled for less than max deal.

??

Klay got essentially the max deal. The only difference was that it was the max for a 66.5M salary cap and the cap ended up being a little higher. But it wasn't a savings worth even discussing.

The Curry deal was a steal but it was one he had to make because his body was crumbling at that point.

But yeah, Green is going to get 14M+. And probably on the + side of that.

GSW HAVE to find a way to dump Lee/Iggy. HAVE TO.

[chocolatethunder]

I got a ton of respect for Green, and he'll make around the max, but he's only able to perform at this level because his team is so talented, balanced, and well-coached.

He's a specialist...a 4th-best player kind of guy. It's dangerous to offer him more than $12 million.
Everything you're saying is right but by the time the new cap kicks in with the TV money $12 million will seem like a bargain.

[fpliii]

GSW HAVE to find a way to dump Lee/Iggy. HAVE TO.
Lee I'd agree with, but I don't think Iggy is a lost cause. Lost some athleticism before, but he's been a part of all their best lineups.

As a matter of fact, the 4-man unit of Curry, Klay, Bogut, and Iggy is slightly better than any other, and Iggy is a part of 5 of their 6 best 5-man units:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/GSW/2015/lineups/

[Haymaker]

The worst mistake he'll make career-wise is to go for the big money on a shitty team.

[boozehound]

Close to, if not max.

He's worth it too.
yeah, hes gonna get maxed (or close enough to it to not make a difference). There are lots of teams with $ this summer and he is one of the better young FAs. Expect him, butler and leonard to all get max offers.

I always loved him at state, but did not think his game would translate this well to the nba. Heres to him ending up on the pistons next to drummond!

[boozehound]

Lee I'd agree with, but I don't think Iggy is a lost cause. Lost some athleticism before, but he's been a part of all their best lineups.

As a matter of fact, the 4-man unit of Curry, Klay, Bogut, and Iggy is slightly better than any other, and Iggy is a part of 5 of their 6 best 5-man units:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/GSW/2015/lineups/
I agree. Iggy is a very important part of this team. If they trade him, they take a step back from winning it all this year IMO.

[SwishSquared]

He'll get $10-12M per year. No way we can afford to keep him, unless we trade away Lee and/or Iggy. Lee will be an expirer, but I don't think anyone wants Iggy's contract.

Honestly, I would rather pay Green the money Iggy is getting, but we can't afford to pay both of those guys that much. I'm also not sure how great Draymond is gonna play if he ends up on a team as the 2nd or 3rd option. I love me some Draygod, but he's playing with a stacked offensive lineup right now.
Lee + two 2nd round picks for Garnett?

[T_L_P]

Lee + two 2nd round picks for Garnett?

I like that trade.

Garnett is a defensive backup in case Bogut isn't healthy. Don't need much from him on offense.

Brooklyn gets a young, solid impact player.

Too bad nobody on either team will suggest it.

[HurricaneKid]

Lee I'd agree with, but I don't think Iggy is a lost cause. Lost some athleticism before, but he's been a part of all their best lineups.

As a matter of fact, the 4-man unit of Curry, Klay, Bogut, and Iggy is slightly better than any other, and Iggy is a part of 5 of their 6 best 5-man units:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/GSW/2015/lineups/

I like Iggy. But he is somewhat redundant on the squad. And they are a repeater. Assuming they keep green they are looking at a 96M+ payroll next year which would be a MASSIVE lux tax bill. The cost to keep Iggys 12M would be closer to 40M+.

Is he worth 40M?

[HurricaneKid]

I like that trade.

Garnett is a defensive backup in case Bogut isn't healthy. Don't need much from him on offense.

Brooklyn gets a young, solid impact player.

Too bad nobody on either team will suggest it.

What young player is Brkln getting? Is GS sending someone with 10 year vet and soon to be 32 year old David Lee?

And LOL at Brkln taking on more salary.

[T_L_P]

What young player is Brkln getting? Is GS sending someone with 10 year vet and soon to be 32 year old David Lee?

And LOL at Brkln taking on more salary.

Sorry, should have edited that.

Young player(s) (2nd rounders), and a solid player* (even though I don't think Lee is that good) :oldlol:

Has Brooklyn received any picks in the last two years from trades?

[SHAQisGOAT]

Can't say exactly how much, but teams will throw major money at him, that's for sure.

He's been playing terrific "role-player" basketball... Lovin it.

[fpliii]

I like Iggy. But he is somewhat redundant on the squad. And they are a repeater. Assuming they keep green they are looking at a 96M+ payroll next year which would be a MASSIVE lux tax bill. The cost to keep Iggys 12M would be closer to 40M+.

Is he worth 40M?
Iggy isn't worth 12M at this point, and if Green can be had for that price, he's a better option, since he's younger and approximates a lot of what Iggy did in his prime.

[HurricaneKid]

Iggy isn't worth 12M at this point, and if Green can be had for that price, he's a better option, since he's younger and approximates a lot of what Iggy did in his prime.

That was my point. Iggy is still useful. But he isn't worth 40M/yr. The problem is that no one is going to take Lee on at 15M/. They paid 2 1sts to dump RJ and Biedrins. There would likely be a similar cost to dump Lee.

[fpliii]

That was my point. Iggy is still useful. But he isn't worth 40M/yr. The problem is that no one is going to take Lee on at 15M/. They paid 2 1sts to dump RJ and Biedrins. There would likely be a similar cost to dump Lee.
They can't do anything with him now, but Lee is an expirer next season (FA in 2016). So maybe they can move him over the summer, or early next year.

[LONGTIME]

The worst mistake he'll make career-wise is to go for the big money on a shitty team.

:oldlol: Yeah..... Money>rings.

[el gringos]

??

Klay got essentially the max deal. The only difference was that it was the max for a 66.5M salary cap and the cap ended up being a little higher. But it wasn't a savings worth even discussing.

The Curry deal was a steal but it was one he had to make because his body was crumbling at that point.

But yeah, Green is going to get 14M+. And probably on the + side of that.

GSW HAVE to find a way to dump Lee/Iggy. HAVE TO.
Lee and iggy, 1st and 2 2nds
For
Carmelo and bargnani

[GimmeThat]

8-10 mil

7mil if he gets offered a contract that goes up yearly.


but yes, he'll probably get the 10-12 mil offer. with teams looking for his rebounding and his scoring as a plus.

if he was 2 inches taller tho.

I suppose teams are going to think about those "max"es

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

i always knew we'd be happy iggy chose GSW, but i didnt think it would happen this soon. he had what, one semi-decent year
:lol

denver nuggets are shit and will always be shit. regardless of whether they kept iggy or not. :cheers:

[Heavincent]

i always knew we'd be happy iggy chose GSW, but i didnt think it would happen this soon. he had what, one semi-decent year

That's funny because Denver went down the shitter as soon as he left :oldlol:

Iggy has lost some explosiveness but he's still a good player. His numbers are modest but that's because he plays on super stacked team and hardly ever looks for his own shot. There's a reason why he always finishes games.

[Heavincent]

Lee and iggy, 1st and 2 2nds
For
Carmelo and bargnani

**** off with that :oldlol:

Why would the Warriors trade two fantastic team players for two chucking, matador defenders with terrible contracts who add nothing to the team?

Iggy and Lee sacrificed their individual stats for the sake of the team. Not sure why people are acting like they're scrubs. If you've watched any Warriors games this year, you would know that they're still very good players.

[Hopper15]

A max offer would be really dumb and I like Draymond a lot.

[They Won]

People really think close to max? They better be trolling. $7-8M a year is what his value is, but he will probably get closer to $10M from a desperate team.

[Heavincent]

People really think close to max? They better be trolling. $7-8M a year is what his value is, but he will probably get closer to $10M from a desperate team.

He does shit that literally nobody else does. Or as JVG said last night, his combination of skills is unheard of.

- can guard all 5 positions effectively
- protects the rim
- Elite passer at his position
- decent spot up shooter
- good finisher

Jack of all trades, master of defense

[bizil]

A max offer would be really dumb and I like Draymond a lot.

Agreed! When I heard Jeff Van Gundy say Dray deserves or might command a max salary, I couldn't believe it! NO WAY IN HELL does Dray deserve a max salary. He isn't even an All Star level kind of player. If guys like Dray can get the max, that's going to set off anarchy in the NBA. I think wings or SF's like a Jimmy Butler, Kawhii, Derozan, etc. are WAY MORE DESERVING of a max salary than Dray. And I don't think Butler, Kawhii, and Derozan are really max level kind of players anyway. It would be overpaying them if they were. But at least they are among the top 5-6 at their positions in the NBA.

Huge difference between a very versatile player who can fill many holes AND guys who are legit All Stars or superstars. In a perfect world, only superstar level players or guys right underneath should get the max. So that means guys like Lebron, Curry, Durant, Howard, Harden,Westbrook, CP3, Blake, Love, LaMarcus, Lillard, Wall, and Cousins.

[navy]

If you put him on a team and are expecting a star to carry you, you'll be severely mistaken. But he's a damn near perfect role player.

[They Won]

He does shit that literally nobody else does. Or as JVG said last night, his combination of skills is unheard of.

- can guard all 5 positions effectively
- protects the rim
- Elite passer at his position
- decent spot up shooter
- good finisher

Jack of all trades, master of defense

Jack of all trades, but not a master of anything IMO. You don't give 12/8 guys max contracts even if they play great D. Jimmy Butler is the minimum production for a max guy.

[They Won]

If you put him on a team and are expecting a star to carry you, you'll be severely mistaken. But he's a damn near perfect role player.

Agreed. Perfect role players are not max guys.

[bizil]

He does shit that literally nobody else does. Or as JVG said last night, his combination of skills is unheard of.

- can guard all 5 positions effectively
- protects the rim
- Elite passer at his position
- decent spot up shooter
- good finisher

Jack of all trades, master of defense

Very versatile no doubt. But frankly, he's more of a guy who can defend three positions effectively. He can check SG, SF, and some smaller PF's. In the playoffs, he will get exposed having to check those big PF's out West. And he can't guard those quick new PG's either effectively. In terms of centers, he can check goons who don't look to score at all. But dudes like Cousins, Howard, and Gasol, etc. will eat him for breakfast. Guys like Jordan, Noah, and others would wear him out rebounding wise. Dray is only 6'7 and 230.

He is a very good passer I will give him that. I saw that in him at Michigan State. And he is a good shooter too. I think his max potential as of now is 15 points, 7-8 boards, and 4-5 assists. Very good numbers, BUT NOT MAX MONEY kind of numbers. U are really MASSIVELY OVERPAYING if u pay Dray the max. I'm just talking as of now. He's no even better than guys like Parsons, Hayward, Butler, Leonard, etc. In other words, if Draymond is your best player on a team, are u a TRUE title contender. I would say NO! But if he improves to a point to where he's a top 5 SF in the league, then I will give dude credit.

He's a very good player, but I think long terms he needs to settle more into a SF. Who can from there play different positions. GS has him mainly as a PF to accomodate Barnes and Iggy. And in certain lineups, Klay moves to SF. I think GS is gonna have a decision to make between Barnes and Dray. Unless Dray and the team are content to have him as an undersized PF.

[ralph_i_el]

If he's paid as much as he's deserved, casual fans of whichever team that gets him are going to hate on him for not being an alpha 20ppg scorer. Same thing that happened to Iggy

[bizil]

I think if u aren't a true alpha dog kind of scorer, u need to be on the level of guys like a Pippen, Stockton, Howard, Bill Russell, or a Jason Kidd to deserve a max deal. Those guys kind of impact on a game is a lot greater than Draymond. Their career projection u could tell was heading to the HOF one day. Once again, Dray has come a long way and is one of the most versatile players in the league.

But if he gets a MAX DEAL, then I'm telling u a lot of guys in the L are gonna demand the max on Draymond's level!! If some guys are close to max level and get overpaid then I think that's fine. Sometimes u gotta bid high to improve your team. But Dray isn't close to that kind of situation. Now if he continues to improve and work himself to that level, then I will be the first one to applaud him.

[SwishSquared]

Draymond is probably the frontrunner for DPOY and he's a rare stretch 4 that can protect rim, plus has great defensive versatility. Amazing glue guy and I can imagine some team that needs an extra piece would offer big $$$ to potentially snag him from GSW. I think if GSW loses him it could seriously dampen their contending efforts until the cap explodes.

[bizil]

Draymond is probably the frontrunner for DPOY and he's a rare stretch 4 that can protect rim, plus has great defensive versatility. Amazing glue guy and I can imagine some team that needs an extra piece would offer big $$$ to potentially snag him from GSW. I think if GSW loses him it could seriously dampen their contending efforts until the cap explodes.

No doubt Dray is gonna get paid and god bless the brotha!! But he ain't worth max money, even in a overpaying kind of situation. Some guys I can accept being overpaid with a max salary. But if Dray gets a max deal, then SEVERAL GUYS in the NBA deserve a max deal. When I think of a max player, I think of a guy who could be the best player on a title team typically.

[EricGordon23]

NBA needs to switch to nfl style contracts where its only partially guaranteed

[SwishSquared]

No doubt Dray is gonna get paid and god bless the brotha!! But he ain't worth max money, even in a overpaying kind of situation. Some guys I can accept being overpaid with a max salary. But if Dray gets a max deal, then SEVERAL GUYS in the NBA deserve a max deal. When I think of a max player, I think of a guy who could be the best player on a title team typically.
No doubt, he's not a superstar max type guy, but if you go by what the market dictates, you could say he could easily pull a Parsons-type contract based on his 2 way value. I think some teams may try to drive up the price on GSW. I do agree with your overall premise, though.

[Smook A.]

Close to, if not max.

He's worth it too.
:kobe:

IMO, he's going to get a little above $10 mill a year

[Spurs5Rings2014]

Hopefully we can throw the max at him.

:oldlol:

[T_L_P]

:oldlol:

That's if Duncan and Manu retire (which I obviously don't want).

We're not getting Marc Gasol or LMA unfortunately. And I think Pop could make Draymond even deadlier.

[jimmy77x]

Losing money being a fraud on the biggest stage. Not a max player

[funnystuff]

3 nickels and a pack of bubble gum

[greymatter]

He's a PF version of Bruce Bowen. Never going to be talented/skilled enough to be the first or second best player on an elite team. If he's the best or 2nd best player on a team, that team wouldn't make the playoffs in the West and in the East would be no higher than a 7/8th seed.

Not worth more than 8-9M a year.

[AMERVET]

Green is the type of player you bring into the office, sit down, and start your pitch at 5 years 70mil

[jimmy77x]

Green is the type of player you bring into the office, sit down, and start your pitch at 5 years 70mil

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