Kobe is a Top 20 player = FACT

[Mr.Kite]

MJ
Kareem
Russell
Shaq
Magic
Bird
Duncan
Kobe
Wilt
Hakeem
West
M. Malone
Thomas
K. Malone
Robertson
Pippen
Bran
Dirk
KG
Lillard

[swagga]

MJ
Kareem
Russell
Shaq
Magic
Bird
Duncan
Kobe
Wilt
Hakeem
West
M. Malone
Thomas
K. Malone
Robertson
Pippen
Bran
Dirk
KG
Lillard

imo lillard is already top 10.

[Wade's Rings]

MJ
Kareem
Russell
Shaq
Magic
Bird
Duncan
Kobe
Wilt
Hakeem
West
M. Malone
Thomas
K. Malone
Robertson
Pippen
Bran
Dirk
KG
Lillard

Kobe should be Top 10 and at lowest depending on the given requirements Top 15.

[Mr.Kite]

imo lillard is already top 10.

Not yet...let him win one then he catapults to 15

[riseagainst]

dafuq is this sh.it

[swagga]

Not yet...let him win one then he catapults to 15

his elite jumper already makes him top 10. imo when the game is on the line i'd take only kobe over him, so he is actually 2nd on my list but i keep him at ten cuz he too young.

[Velocirap31]

Of course he is. Why the hell is Lillard even listed? Replace him with Wade at the very least.

[COnDEMnED]

Number 7 is still top 20. I agree.

[Mr.Kite]

Of course he is. Why the hell is Lillard even listed? Replace him with Wade at the very least.

Wade is 21 - 25

Lillard is just too good to be lower than 20.

WHen he gets 1, he will be top 15, maybe at 11

[They Won]

I can support this.

[Marchesk]

Lillard's RAPM, PER and eFG% definitely put him in the top 20 all-time. In addition, he's navigationally efficient and a one of the greatest off-ball passers.

Top 20 is almost an insult at this point. Will pass Kobe in another season or two. :bowdown:

[swagga]

Lillard's RAPM, PER and eFG% definitely put him in the top 20 all-time. In addition, he's navigationally efficient and a one of the greatest off-ball passers.

Top 20 is almost an insult at this point. Will pass Kobe in another season or two. :bowdown:

you mean the kobe bryant assist or the fact that his will to win assists his teammates ? imo they should be 2 categories.

[3ball]

greatest off-ball passers.



ON-ball Passing = Passing after having an existing, live dribble (like a point guard):


http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/cc9f5bd27abe1cedf21d5f3133957e62.gif





OFF-ball Passing = Passing with no existing, live dribble:


http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/8f151a9a9fc1b4dbdd5a412dc6696092.gif

[Hey Yo]

MJ doing his best John Starks imitation.

[SouBeachTalents]

Lillard too low imo

[LoneyROY7]

Navigation efficiency and off-ball passing. :lol

Good job ISH. :applause:

[La Frescobaldi]

dafuq is this sh.it
i know right? :lol

[uber]

best thread ever

[Mr.Kite]

its a good thread right