Kobe 3-19 tonight

[Cocaine80s]

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[Mr.Kite]

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[Cocaine80s]

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[Mr.Kite]

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[konex]

Old + Rust = UGLY. This stupid rest plan is idiotic for a guy who doesn't get to the rim at all.

[livinglegend]

Sucks that my boy Kobe doesnt have Gasol, Shaq or refs to bail him out now.

[Done_And_Done]

Cool

[Inferno]

poor bean

[Fudge]

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[oh the horror]

I said it in another thread. Something is wrong with this dude.


I've heard the buzz lately about wrapping it up for the season. And lately he looks pretty bad. Wtf is going on in Laker land?

[JT123]

I said it in another thread. Something is wrong with this dude.


I've heard the buzz lately about wrapping it up for the season. And lately he looks pretty bad. Wtf is going on in Laker land?
Father time is undefeated.

[Mr.Kite]

Father time is undefeated.

bran gave up to father time at 30

[COnDEMnED]

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I've only seen one ***** call for mods before. Is that you Jameer?

[Cocaine80s]

I've only seen one ***** call for mods before. Is that you Jameer?
no

[Keno]

time to hang it up boys.

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3/19 or 4/16, what's better moron?

[SouBeachTalents]

3/19 or 4/16, what's better moron?

What's more important, a tanking season or the NBA Finals?

[Mr.Kite]

3/19 or 4/16, what's better moron?

36 year old in 19th season or

26 year old on 8th season in the finals MORON

[bigkingsfan]

Still good by his standards.

[Kvnzhangyay]

36 year old in 19th season or

26 year old on 8th season in the finals MORON

admit it you just got shat on :lol

[Lebron23]

Cavalies will end their losing streak against Mr. Bryant. Thank You Kobe.

[FPJ]

I don't get it, with a similar performance in Game 7 in the Finals, he got the MVP. How can it be a bad thing? This is vintage Kobe right here, you best remember these games, you don't know when you'll get to see such a performance ever again, from anyone.

[Real14]

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[Real14]

What's more important, a tanking season or the NBA Finals?
5/7 or 2/5?

[Kvnzhangyay]

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awk because it doesn't change what the OP said

[sportjames23]

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[Real14]

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that's bron's motto.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

vintage performance

[Doranku]

:( :cry:

[SexSymbol]

It was a ****ing 75-72 game, most of the players shot like shit, Bosh was like 4-17. Time to hang it up for him too huh?


75-72, rarely ever happens

[lakerspng]

he actually didn't play that bad. He made a ton of terrific passes, set up guys with great plays, but they missed shots like crazy tonight and he shot really poorly. It's not like they were bad shots, lots of open, good looks that he just missed, as did the rest of the team. one of those games that happen every once in a while that you just have to move past.

[Mr Feeny]

It was a ****ing 75-72 game, most of the players shot like shit, Bosh was like 4-17. Time to hang it up for him too huh?


75-72, rarely ever happens

3-19 for 12 points rarely happens:applause:

[GrapeApe]

He just doesn't have the ability to get to the rim anymore. Eveything is from the perimeter, so when his shots aren't falling it gets ugly. I don't know why he's not posting up more.

[navy]

He just doesn't have the ability to get to the rim anymore. Eveything is from the perimeter, so when his shots aren't falling it gets ugly. I don't know why he's not posting up more.
Posting up is rough on the body.

[Relinquish]

I've only seen one ***** call for mods before. Is that you Jameer?

You forgot Real14 who does it in almost every thread.

[Quickening]

What's more important, a tanking season or the NBA Finals?

Game 7 of nba finals, 6 for 24

[SamuraiSWISH]

Yea, I co-sign sitting Kobe every other game is actually a bad idea for a guy whose game is predicated on shooting volume amount of jumpers. He can't get to the rim off the dribble like he was doing in 2013 to compensate.

It honestly looks like Kobe could retire at this point. He had a quarter of a season in his tank to pass MJ, and that's about it. His numbers dipping by the second. Didn't Kobe say he didn't want to be a guy scoring less than 20 ppg?

P.S. LMAO @ all the Kobe stans like YMF who critiqued MJ's 2002 season, even though he was 3x years older in a more difficult defensive league than Kobe is now.

[Lebron23]

Wizards Jordan better than 2016 Kobe.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Wizards Jordan better than 2016 Kobe.
MJ 22.9 PPG on 42%
Kobe 22.7 PPG on 37% (quickly dipping, season not even 1/2 over)

[Mr Feeny]

MJ 22.9 PPG on 42%
Kobe 22.7 PPG on 37% (quickly dipping, season not even 1/2 over)Not to mention that MJ, even at 39, was ten times the defender that Kobe is now. This is just embarassing.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Not to mention that MJ, even at 39, was ten times the defender that Kobe is now. This is just embarassing.
Also, as we said, the vastly more difficult scoring climate. Peak era for SG players.

Prime Kobe, T-Mac, Iverson, V. Carter, Ray Allen, Pierce, etc. Who does Kobe even have to get up for at this stage of the game? Harden? Klay Thompson?

:oldlol:

[pauk]

Posting up is rough on the body.

b-b-bu-but skills? footwork?

[Heavincent]

b-b-bu-but skills? footwork?

Yes, Kobe is one of the best of all time in terms of skills and footwork? Are you seriously denying that?

[Mr Feeny]

Yes, Kobe is one of the best of all time in terms of skills and footwork? Are you seriously denying that?

All those skills and footwork should theoretically have him shooting better than 37%fg, shouldn't they? Or is he just that bad a shooter that even with his elite footwork which get him good looks, he shoots like a blind man?

[Nashty]

Vintage Godbe :bowdown:

[SamuraiSWISH]

All those skills and footwork should theoretically have him shooting better than 37%fg, shouldn't they?
No, because he's not getting easy baskets at the rim to pad percentages.

He's forced to shoot exclusively, with meager elevation at old age, jumpers from mid-range while being contested. That takes it's toll on your body, productivity, and especially efficiency. Doesn't mean he isn't elite skilled, or have great footwork dude.

C'mon that's disingenuous. Kobe is one of the most skilled players ever.

That 5% efficiency difference on equal volume between 36 year old Kobe and 39 year old Jordan ... is the same as at their peaks. Kobe a 28 ppg on 45% guy and Jordan a 32 ppg on 50% guy.

The difference in efficiency isn't skill related, they're near equal, that's a superior body and athleticism allowing to find easier baskets.

[BigBoss]

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[Mr Feeny]

No, because he's not getting easy baskets at the rim to pad percentages.

He's forced to shoot exclusively, with meager elevation at old age, jumpers from mid-range while being contested. That takes it's toll on your body, productivity, and especially efficiency. Doesn't mean he isn't elite skilled, or have great footwork dude.

C'mon that's disingenuous. Kobe is one of the most skilled players ever.

That 5% efficiency difference on equal volume between 36 year old Kobe and 39 year old Jordan ... is the same as at their peaks. Kobe a 28 ppg on 45% guy and Jordan a 32 ppg on 50% guy.

The difference in efficiency isn't skill related, they're near equal, that's a superior body and athleticism allowing to find easier baskets.

Yes but that poster specifically has stated multiple times that in his opinion Kobe is the most skilled player of all time, which means Kobe is more skilled than Jordan. If that's the case, then Jordan being superior athletically doesn't mean much since Kobe's greater skill should offset that gap on athleticism and then some.

[SexSymbol]

Yes but that poster specifically has stated multiple times that in his opinion Kobe is the most skilled player of all time, which means Kobe is more skilled than Jordan. If that's the case, then Jordan being superior athletically doesn't mean much since Kobe's greater skill should offset that gap on athleticism and then some.
If you're old and you still have some athleticism left, you're still gonna be a great player like Jordan in 97-98

Kobe has absolutely no athleticism left, only his flexibility. He had two major surgeries man, let it go.

[Quickening]

Kobe game is based on a mixture skill and athleticism... he hasn't been a top 5 player in the league since 2010 when he was 31 i.e when players start losing their athleticism.

His longevity isn't anything to write home about, he became a top 10 player in around 2001, and maintained it until 2010. So a 9 year stretch, possibly excluding a year or two. After that he has just been an inefficient shot jacker, who plays zero defence.

Lebron has already surpassed that, been a top ten player since 2004.

What Kobe is doing this year is straight up embarrassing considering the money he is getting paid.

[SexSymbol]

Kobe game is based on a mixture skill and athleticism... he hasn't been a top 5 player in the league since 2010 when he was 31 i.e when players start losing their athleticism.

His longevity isn't anything to write home about, he became a top 10 player in around 2001, and maintained it until 2010. So a 9 year stretch, possibly excluding a year or two. After that he has just been an inefficient shot jacker, who plays zero defence.

Lebron has already surpassed that, been a top ten player since 2004.

What Kobe is doing this year is straight up embarrassing considering the money he is getting paid.
2011/2012/2013

Kobe's prime lasted 13 years.
LeBron has been the best player in the league for two years, you're overrating the guy incredibly.

[Quickening]

2011/2012/2013

Kobe's prime lasted 13 years.
LeBron has been the best player in the league for two years, you're overrating the guy incredibly.

Sorry but shooting 43% and 30 percent from 3 point land, with zero defence doesn't make you a top 5 player.

Where did I mention Lebron being the best player? (even though he has since 2009) Lebron has been a top 5 player in the league for 10 years now... Thats longevity. I don't care about Kobe coming into the league as a role player, or him being a cancer in the last 3 years of his career.

Kobe had 9 years as a top 10 player, and thats being generous. The idea of him having GOAT longevity must be from the same guy who says he is GOAT in the clutch.

[sekachu]

MJ 22.9 PPG on 42%
Kobe 22.7 PPG on 37% (quickly dipping, season not even 1/2 over)



And Wizard MJ improve nearly 45% on 20 ppg next year. Simply amazing :applause:

[SamuraiSWISH]

LeBron has been the best player in the league for two years, you're overrating the guy incredibly.
Stop. Besides a few arguables, last year included, Bron has been the best player in the game since 2009. No arguments for anyone else in 2012, and 2013. No one had been definitively that uncontested best since Shaq. Last year's playoffs showed he was still better than Durant.

[LilEddyCurry]

Stop. Besides a few arguables, last year included, Bron has been the best player in the game since 2009. No arguments for anyone else in 2012, and 2013. No one had been definitively that uncontested best since Shaq. Last year's playoffs showed he was still better than Durant.
This.

[NBASTATMAN]

What's more important, a tanking season or the NBA Finals?


Kobe has done both more than once.. Lebron will probably match that :cheers:

[T_L_P]

How people can still defend this type of game.

Missing shots is part of basketball (Danny Green seems like he hasn't hit a shot in weeks). But missing bad shots isn't.

Kobe's game this year, aside from a nice week-long stretch, is missing a lot of bad shots.

He's terrible. He seriously needs to retire if he isn't willing to change his game for the long haul (i.e. not just a week when he feels like getting some triple doubles).

[AirFederer]

Kobe game is based on a mixture skill and athleticism... he hasn't been a top 5 player in the league since 2010 when he was 31 i.e when players start losing their athleticism.

His longevity isn't anything to write home about, he became a top 10 player in around 2001, and maintained it until 2010. So a 9 year stretch, possibly excluding a year or two. After that he has just been an inefficient shot jacker, who plays zero defence.

Lebron has already surpassed that, been a top ten player since 2004.

What Kobe is doing this year is straight up embarrassing considering the money he is getting paid.

This. It's the naked cold truth. Fools only see his ppg :facepalm

[Mr Feeny]

Stop. Besides a few arguables, last year included, Bron has been the best player in the game since 2009. No arguments for anyone else in 2012, and 2013. No one had been definitively that uncontested best since Shaq. Last year's playoffs showed he was still better than Durant.

This. But don't let logic get in the way of our Lithuanian friend here.

[LeBird]

LOL @ Kobe being one of the most skilled. One of the myths in basketball. Dude has never shot 50% FG in a season in his life. Currently is in the 30%s.

[Wade's Rings]

LOL @ Kobe being one of the most skilled. One of the myths in basketball. Dude has never shot 50% FG in a season in his life. Currently is in the 30%s.

Skill is Footwork, Off Ball Play, Finishing with the Off Hand, Offensive Skill-set, etc.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Yes but that poster specifically has stated multiple times that in his opinion Kobe is the most skilled player of all time, which means Kobe is more skilled than Jordan. If that's the case, then Jordan being superior athletically doesn't mean much since Kobe's greater skill should offset that gap on athleticism and then some.
Oh ok, gotcha. I don't think Kobe's more skilled than Jordan. But he's probably the closest there has been, or will be. He just doesn't have the off the ball ability. I'm just saying you'd have to be a retard to say Kobe isn't one of the most skilled of all-time. See LeBird, etc.

[Magic 32]

Kobe has plenty of off the ball ability.

But running of screens takes it out of your legs.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Kobe has plenty of off the ball ability.
In comparison to Jordan, not as much. Cool your jets.

[scandisk_]

kobe really wants to follow that MJ route :facepalm I'm mean he can still play on a high level but his team :lol and his body won't let him do it on a nightly basis. C'mon bean time to hang those laces up.

[LeBird]

Skill is Footwork, Off Ball Play, Finishing with the Off Hand, Offensive Skill-set, etc.

And they're all means to an end. If they're not conducive to you getting points at an efficient clip; then you're not skilled where it counts.

[AirFederer]

If his physical skillset is so great, he has it more than nullfied with dat historically low bbiq.

[konex]

There's nothing wrong with him. Lakers are trying to keep that pick so they're sitting him but his poor play is because he is old and surrounded by trash players so he still has to do everything when he's out there...

[sportjames23]

Oh ok, gotcha. I don't think Kobe's more skilled than Jordan. But he's probably the closest there has been, or will be. He just doesn't have the off the ball ability. I'm just saying you'd have to be a retard to say Kobe isn't one of the most skilled of all-time. See LeBird, etc.


:oldlol:

[LeBird]

Oh ok, gotcha. I don't think Kobe's more skilled than Jordan. But he's probably the closest there has been, or will be. He just doesn't have the off the ball ability. I'm just saying you'd have to be a retard to say Kobe isn't one of the most skilled of all-time. See LeBird, etc.

Yeah, but who has the bigger schlong though? Maybe you need to settle that argument again. :lol

[plowking]

There is a difference between most skilled and most fluid and aesthetically pleasing to the eye.

Sure, Kobe is a skilled player, but it is more the fluidity of his game that is pleasing to the eye. Even his misses and bad plays tend to look nice.
I wouldn't say he is a more skilled player than Bird, MJ, Oscar, Bron, etc.