Obama dictates to his administration not to use the term "Radical Islam"

[HitandRun Reggie]

http://twitchy.com/2015/01/13/josh-earnest-out-radical-islam-in-violent-extremism-based-on-a-warped-view-of-islam/

He wants them only to use the phrase, "violent extremism based on a warped view of Islam"


First Obama refuses to send a high profile official to the march against Radical Islam's attack on the freedom of speech, now he has commanded his administration not to even use the term, "Radical Islam". Add this to the Obama administration being the most hostile to Israel ever, and you have to start scratching your head.

Why is this guy so hell bent on defending Islamic terrorists? Might it be because it is the religion of his dead deadbeat daddy.

[Patrick Chewing]

Obama is the Teflon President. Nothing sticks. And the media runs with it and he seems to never get painted in a negative light.


Now I primarily think Obama's luck with the mainstream media is due to his skin color, cause let's face it, just a mere disagreement with a person of color and you're shunned from society as a certified Grandmaster of the KKK racist.

But all that aside, it is quite troubling that Obama for the last 6 years has refused to label terrorism for what it is and has refused to confront it period. We live in a world where terrorism is at our very doorstep in just about every country. But I just feel as if he wants to distant himself so much from terrorism to as not to taint his legacy as a President who was able to bridge these non-existent gaps that he wants us to believe he's forging. I mean there is an audio clip of him specifically saying he wanted to improve the image the West has of Islam before he became President, if he became President.

Muslims need to face the facts that their religion has been hijacked and the West has already made up its mind on Islam. It wants no part of it if Muslims are not going to assimilate to Western culture and values and are just going to be aiders and abettors to radicals.

[imdaman99]

http://twitchy.com/2015/01/13/josh-earnest-out-radical-islam-in-violent-extremism-based-on-a-warped-view-of-islam/

He wants them only to use the phrase, "violent extremism based on a warped view of Islam"


First Obama refuses to send a high profile official to the march against Radical Islam's attack on the freedom of speech, now he has commanded his administration not to even use the term, "Radical Islam". Add this to the Obama administration being the most hostile to Israel ever, and you have to start scratching your head.

Why is this guy so hell bent on defending Islamic terrorists? Might it be because it is the religion of his dead deadbeat daddy.
http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/154/912/berneydidnotread.gif

[sweggeh]

Obama has already dropped bombs on millions of innocent Muslim women and children, giving them some good press is the least he could do.

[KevinNYC]

Obama has already dropped bombs on millions of innocent Muslim women and children, giving them some good press is the least he could do.
Most innumerate post ever on ISH?







And still may be the most incisive post in thread

[StephHamann]

Obama has already dropped bombs on millions of innocent Muslim women and children, giving them some good press is the least he could do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTmXHvGZiSY

[Miss Bella]

Most innumerate post ever on ISH?







And still may be the most incisive post in thread

:oldlol:

I have seen a lot of dumb posts by himI am willing to believe he was just throwing out millions as a figure of speech. No one can be that dumb.

[Godzuki]

he's such a politically correct, soft fukkin bitch its almost predictable :rolleyes:

he's such a weak leader. only saving grace is his administration being the only reasonable candidate to get us out of the near depression and guiding us down the right financial path. if only the other parties weren't so terrible and retarded.

[brownmamba00]

Obama has already dropped bombs on millions of innocent Muslim women and children, giving them some good press is the least he could do.
oh snap

they gonna get mad now watch out swegg

[pauk]

:applause:

[KevinNYC]

Very true. Good post.
For you idiots who can't count. How many people have died during the Syrian war?

[MavsSuperFan]

http://twitchy.com/2015/01/13/josh-earnest-out-radical-islam-in-violent-extremism-based-on-a-warped-view-of-islam/

He wants them only to use the phrase, "violent extremism based on a warped view of Islam"


First Obama refuses to send a high profile official to the march against Radical Islam's attack on the freedom of speech, now he has commanded his administration not to even use the term, "Radical Islam". Add this to the Obama administration being the most hostile to Israel ever, and you have to start scratching your head.

Why is this guy so hell bent on defending Islamic terrorists? Might it be because it is the religion of his dead deadbeat daddy.



He wants them only to use the phrase, "violent extremism based on a warped view of Islam"


Honestly whats the big difference? The fact that islam can be interrupted in that way is an indictment against it.

I have no idea why people care more about what hypothetically an ideology details, rather than the actual consequences its followers create.


First Obama refuses to send a high profile official to the march against
I dont think he refused, just looked bad we didnt send a high profile representative


Add this to the Obama administration being the most hostile to Israel ever
thats not true.
Carter was far more neutral in the israel/arab world conflicts than obama.

LBJ refused to immediately provide military assistance during the build up to the 6 day war. Specifically he refused to use the US navy to open the Egyptian blockade of the straits of tiran

Later LBJ's administration forced israel to accept an end to the 6 day war while it was winning to avoid the conflict bring in soviet interference and forcing a soviet/american clash.

The Nixon administration refused to give israel permission to launch a first strike in the build up to the Yom Kippur War, thus allowing the Arab side to strike first in devastating fashion.

The nixon administration similarly forced israel to accept an end to the Yom Kippur war after israel had gained the upper hand and stopped israel from conquering additional territories

G.H.W. Bush was far more anti settlements than anything from the Obama admin.


Why is this guy so hell bent on defending Islamic terrorists? Might it be because it is the religion of his dead deadbeat daddy.
his family containing muslims obviously gives him a different perspective on islam than most american presidents.

But outside of words he has done far less for the muslim world than say carter, or even clinton, etc

[MavsSuperFan]

For you idiots who can't count. How many people have died during the Syrian war?
Cause that makes double tap strikes and signature strikes not totally immoral and arguably a war crime?


The obama administration has determined that any military age male can be classified as an enemy combatant. This allows them to make the ludicrous claim that the civilian casualties have been minimal.

Signature Strikes- Drone strikes based solely on attacking people because of "suspicious behavior". We aren't even sure if they are terrorists, If you're in Yemen and look suspicious to a CIA official, Obama has okayed killing you based on nothing else. No due process, no checks and balances. Imagine how we would react if China or Russia were striking targets in this manner.

Personality Strike- we actually think we know who we are targeting. Do we care if we launch a hellfire missile that kills 5 people, only 1 of them being the targeted individual? Well if we do care, we dont care enough not to kill the 4 other people that we have no idea who they are. If you can't feel compassion for Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Libya, Yemen, Somalia and thats just the countries Obama admits to. Imagine mexico targeted the cartels like this. Imagine some cartel members were hiding in an American city, Mexico decides **** it, its worth the collateral damage to kill this guy, fires missiles and kills 3 innocent Americans along with the cartel member. Mexico would be lucky if we didn't retaliate with nukes.

Double Taps- After an initial drone strike, and the carnage it causes, we have noticed that almost always people come to try to help out the people hurt in the drone strike and give medical attention to them. Obviously these people are trying to help because they are terrorists. So we fire a second hellfire missile at them. Targeted strikes, yeah thats what these are.

Eric Holder, (Obama's AG) when questioned about the legality of killing American citizen Anwar al-Awlaki, without due process, Holder insisted due process was achieved. He stated there was a difference between due process and judicial process, and that although judicial process had not been achieved the constitution only requires due process.

Holder had the balls to claim that an American president along with pentagon personnel can execute American citizens outside America as long as these generals and the administration discuss it beforehand. He argued this was sufficient to satisfy the due process requirement of the constitution. Al-Awlaki's 14 year old son was also killed in yemen by a drone strike. no one cares that a 14 year old American citizen was killed by our government with no evidence of any crimes he committed? (he was not the target of the strike). Where is congressional approval of military operations in Yemen, Pakistan, Somalia, etc?

Lets be honest drones prevent American casualties and American casualties alone. If your neighbourhood had gang members that lived next to you, and you were too afraid to report them to the police, should the police be allowed to fire missiles at them possibly killing your children? If your kids died in a signature strike, and then your wife goes to help them and gets killed in a double tap strike, would you not hate the people that did this for the rest of your life? Imagine what you would say about police that fired missiles into poor communities to avoid the risks of going in.

[nathanjizzle]

why would it matter to you that he doesnt want to more so tarnish the religion that millions of Americans believe in?

you do realize their are muslim americans right?

[Yoda]

Cause that makes double tap strikes and signature strikes not totally immoral and arguably a war crime?


The obama administration has determined that any military age male can be classified as an enemy combatant. This allows them to make the ludicrous claim that the civilian casualties have been minimal.

Signature Strikes- Drone strikes based solely on attacking people because of "suspicious behavior". We aren't even sure if they are terrorists, If you're in Yemen and look suspicious to a CIA official, Obama has okayed killing you based on nothing else. No due process, no checks and balances. Imagine how we would react if China or Russia were striking targets in this manner.

Personality Strike- we actually think we know who we are targeting. Do we care if we launch a hellfire missile that kills 5 people, only 1 of them being the targeted individual? Well if we do care, we dont care enough not to kill the 4 other people that we have no idea who they are. If you can't feel compassion for Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Libya, Yemen, Somalia and thats just the countries Obama admits to. Imagine mexico targeted the cartels like this. Imagine some cartel members were hiding in an American city, Mexico decides **** it, its worth the collateral damage to kill this guy, fires missiles and kills 3 innocent Americans along with the cartel member. Mexico would be lucky if we didn't retaliate with nukes.

Double Taps- After an initial drone strike, and the carnage it causes, we have noticed that almost always people come to try to help out the people hurt in the drone strike and give medical attention to them. Obviously these people are trying to help because they are terrorists. So we fire a second hellfire missile at them. Targeted strikes, yeah thats what these are.

Eric Holder, (Obama's AG) when questioned about the legality of killing American citizen Anwar al-Awlaki, without due process, Holder insisted due process was achieved. He stated there was a difference between due process and judicial process, and that although judicial process had not been achieved the constitution only requires due process.

Holder had the balls to claim that an American president along with pentagon personnel can execute American citizens outside America as long as these generals and the administration discuss it beforehand. He argued this was sufficient to satisfy the due process requirement of the constitution. Al-Awlaki's 14 year old son was also killed in yemen by a drone strike. no one cares that a 14 year old American citizen was killed by our government with no evidence of any crimes he committed? (he was not the target of the strike). Where is congressional approval of military operations in Yemen, Pakistan, Somalia, etc?

Lets be honest drones prevent American casualties and American casualties alone. If your neighbourhood had gang members that lived next to you, and you were too afraid to report them to the police, should the police be allowed to fire missiles at them possibly killing your children? If your kids died in a signature strike, and then your wife goes to help them and gets killed in a double tap strike, would you not hate the people that did this for the rest of your life? Imagine what you would say about police that fired missiles into poor communities to avoid the risks of going in.

dr;tl

[MavsSuperFan]

why would it matter to you that he doesnt want to more so tarnish the religion that millions of Americans believe in?

you do realize their are muslim americans right?
Because Islam actually does serve as the basis for islamic extremists. It is not a stretch to claim that the Quran is discriminatory towards non-muslims and sanctions violence towards non-muslims and towards those that offend islam.

It is very easily possible to take away from the quran and the actually life history of the prophet muhammad, a call to spread islam via violence.

Islam for some radicals now is similar to where Christianity used to be during the times of the various christian inquisitions and crusades.

[Rodmantheman]

For you idiots who can't count. How many people have died during the Syrian war?

Like the west didn't try to overthrow the Syrian government by arming terrorists and failing to do that. In a logical world the west would be helping the Syrian government fight terrorism.

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/69797000/jpg/_69797900_jbphoto1.jpg

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/69797000/jpg/_69797902_jbphoto2.jpg

[MavsSuperFan]

dr;tl
Criticisms against obama's drone program are legitimate
Much of his drone program is very immoral, probably even war crimes. especially double tap strikes and signature strikes.

[Dresta]

So now the Obama administration has claimed a monopoly over defining the religious affiliations of others. What was the supreme religious leader of Iran's issuance of a fatwa against Salman Rushdie then? A non-islamic attack? Please. This man is a clown.

[Droid101]

http://i.imgur.com/coSDo.jpg

https://33.media.tumblr.com/1a7f3504614e29cc1f38a11f077149dc/tumblr_nahwwh4K3N1qdlh1io1_500.gif

[KevinNYC]

Like the west didn't try to overthrow the Syrian government by arming terrorists and failing to do that. In a logical world the west would be helping the Syrian government fight terrorism.

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/69797000/jpg/_69797900_jbphoto1.jpg

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/69797000/jpg/_69797902_jbphoto2.jpg

It's a math question.

[KevinNYC]

Cause that makes double tap strikes and signature strikes not totally immoral and arguably a war crime?


The obama administration has determined that any military age male can be classified as an enemy combatant. This allows them to make the ludicrous claim that the civilian casualties have been minimal.

Signature Strikes- Drone strikes based solely on attacking people because of "suspicious behavior". We aren't even sure if they are terrorists, If you're in Yemen and look suspicious to a CIA official, Obama has okayed killing you based on nothing else. No due process, no checks and balances. Imagine how we would react if China or Russia were striking targets in this manner.

Personality Strike- we actually think we know who we are targeting. Do we care if we launch a hellfire missile that kills 5 people, only 1 of them being the targeted individual? Well if we do care, we dont care enough not to kill the 4 other people that we have no idea who they are. If you can't feel compassion for Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Libya, Yemen, Somalia and thats just the countries Obama admits to. Imagine mexico targeted the cartels like this. Imagine some cartel members were hiding in an American city, Mexico decides **** it, its worth the collateral damage to kill this guy, fires missiles and kills 3 innocent Americans along with the cartel member. Mexico would be lucky if we didn't retaliate with nukes.

Double Taps- After an initial drone strike, and the carnage it causes, we have noticed that almost always people come to try to help out the people hurt in the drone strike and give medical attention to them. Obviously these people are trying to help because they are terrorists. So we fire a second hellfire missile at them. Targeted strikes, yeah thats what these are.

Eric Holder, (Obama's AG) when questioned about the legality of killing American citizen Anwar al-Awlaki, without due process, Holder insisted due process was achieved. He stated there was a difference between due process and judicial process, and that although judicial process had not been achieved the constitution only requires due process.

Holder had the balls to claim that an American president along with pentagon personnel can execute American citizens outside America as long as these generals and the administration discuss it beforehand. He argued this was sufficient to satisfy the due process requirement of the constitution. Al-Awlaki's 14 year old son was also killed in yemen by a drone strike. no one cares that a 14 year old American citizen was killed by our government with no evidence of any crimes he committed? (he was not the target of the strike). Where is congressional approval of military operations in Yemen, Pakistan, Somalia, etc?

Lets be honest drones prevent American casualties and American casualties alone. If your neighbourhood had gang members that lived next to you, and you were too afraid to report them to the police, should the police be allowed to fire missiles at them possibly killing your children? If your kids died in a signature strike, and then your wife goes to help them and gets killed in a double tap strike, would you not hate the people that did this for the rest of your life? Imagine what you would say about police that fired missiles into poor communities to avoid the risks of going in.

It's still a math question.

[Nanners]

Cause that makes double tap strikes and signature strikes not totally immoral and arguably a war crime?


The obama administration has determined that any military age male can be classified as an enemy combatant. This allows them to make the ludicrous claim that the civilian casualties have been minimal.

Signature Strikes- Drone strikes based solely on attacking people because of "suspicious behavior". We aren't even sure if they are terrorists, If you're in Yemen and look suspicious to a CIA official, Obama has okayed killing you based on nothing else. No due process, no checks and balances. Imagine how we would react if China or Russia were striking targets in this manner.

Personality Strike- we actually think we know who we are targeting. Do we care if we launch a hellfire missile that kills 5 people, only 1 of them being the targeted individual? Well if we do care, we dont care enough not to kill the 4 other people that we have no idea who they are. If you can't feel compassion for Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Libya, Yemen, Somalia and thats just the countries Obama admits to. Imagine mexico targeted the cartels like this. Imagine some cartel members were hiding in an American city, Mexico decides **** it, its worth the collateral damage to kill this guy, fires missiles and kills 3 innocent Americans along with the cartel member. Mexico would be lucky if we didn't retaliate with nukes.

Double Taps- After an initial drone strike, and the carnage it causes, we have noticed that almost always people come to try to help out the people hurt in the drone strike and give medical attention to them. Obviously these people are trying to help because they are terrorists. So we fire a second hellfire missile at them. Targeted strikes, yeah thats what these are.

Eric Holder, (Obama's AG) when questioned about the legality of killing American citizen Anwar al-Awlaki, without due process, Holder insisted due process was achieved. He stated there was a difference between due process and judicial process, and that although judicial process had not been achieved the constitution only requires due process.

Holder had the balls to claim that an American president along with pentagon personnel can execute American citizens outside America as long as these generals and the administration discuss it beforehand. He argued this was sufficient to satisfy the due process requirement of the constitution. Al-Awlaki's 14 year old son was also killed in yemen by a drone strike. no one cares that a 14 year old American citizen was killed by our government with no evidence of any crimes he committed? (he was not the target of the strike). Where is congressional approval of military operations in Yemen, Pakistan, Somalia, etc?

Lets be honest drones prevent American casualties and American casualties alone. If your neighbourhood had gang members that lived next to you, and you were too afraid to report them to the police, should the police be allowed to fire missiles at them possibly killing your children? If your kids died in a signature strike, and then your wife goes to help them and gets killed in a double tap strike, would you not hate the people that did this for the rest of your life? Imagine what you would say about police that fired missiles into poor communities to avoid the risks of going in.

excellent post, especially the bolded part.

its impossible for the "war on terror" to be "won" by dropping bombs. the world doesnt work like that.

[MavsSuperFan]

http://twitchy.com/2015/01/13/josh-earnest-out-radical-islam-in-violent-extremism-based-on-a-warped-view-of-islam/

He wants them only to use the phrase, "violent extremism based on a warped view of Islam"


First Obama refuses to send a high profile official to the march against Radical Islam's attack on the freedom of speech, now he has commanded his administration not to even use the term, "Radical Islam". Add this to the Obama administration being the most hostile to Israel ever, and you have to start scratching your head.

Why is this guy so hell bent on defending Islamic terrorists? Might it be because it is the religion of his dead deadbeat daddy.

Thought about it more, and it is ridiculous to categorize Obama as even remotely hostile to israel.

I come from a very pro israel mindset and on ISH i have been the most vocal defender of israel. I am very biased towards israel.

With that said obama is in no way anti israel.

-Obama did literally nothing to restrain Israel during this last war with gaza/hamas. Eg. obama never threatened to cut foreign aid/ military aid. (not that i felt he should have)

-Obama/Kerry and other admin officials repeatedly talked about israel's right to self defense and other israeli talking points.

- The US congress voting overwhelmingly in the House and by unanimous consent in the senate to replenish the Iron Dome defense system with missiles. Obama signed it into law, he did not veto nor speak out against the replenishment.

- The obama admin allowed the US army to give israel access to our mortar, grenades and other surplus items/munitions.

- Obama's UN ambassadors have repeatedly blocked resolutions deemed anti israel. Including pressuring security council members to abstain recently from admitting palestine as a full member of the UN. Even had it passed the obama admin have indicated we would have vetoed palestine's bid.

- Obama's position on palestine having to negotiate directly with israel rather than seek international legal claims is identical to the position of Netanyahu

[SCdac]

Obama's administration has done the bare minimum to support Israel in the eyes of Americans (and it mostly seems like timely flip-flopping depending on political consequence) and it can certainly be construed as "not very friendly" toward the country. Think things are still fine but Obama's admin has certainly been aggressive with Israel (for better or worse). John Kerry as a mouthpiece has just been a disaster. The restriction of FAA flights during the recent war with Hamas seemed like punishment for Israel defending itself to most observers. And there's the "asbergery" comments directed to Bibi by probably a high level person in the admin. The current administration is probably one of the most disliked by Israelis ever. Recently, was announced that US is arming some of the Palestinians in the West Bank, which seems questionable and breaches previous agreements between Israel-US. But then again, this is coming from the same administration that enacted "Fast and Furious" and a bunch of other BS. I don't think Obama is as much anti-Israel as his administration (and John Kerry especially) is just incompetent, they lead from behind, and has declining world standing. Nobody takes this admin seriously and you get the feeling Obama is willing to sell out Israel to appease other nations.

[KNOW1EDGE]

And?

[Patrick Chewing]

Betcha anything America gets attacked months after Obama leaves office.

[Droid101]

Betcha anything America gets attacked months after Obama leaves office.
Are you saying he's the only thing keeping us safe?

OBAMA FOR LIFE! Repeal all term limit laws immediately!

[Patrick Chewing]

Are you saying he's the only thing keeping us safe?

OBAMA FOR LIFE! Repeal all term limit laws immediately!


I know, right??


It's not like Democrats are pathetically weak on foreign and domestic issues and are oblivious on how to handle extremism.

Obama should just re-write history and just announce he's staying as President.....





http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view3/1238965/sandlot-forever-o.gif

[KevinNYC]

Betcha anything America gets attacked months after Obama leaves office.
You are an American. right? Like you're not an ex-pat or anything? You lived here since 2009?

Are you saying that terrorists have not targeted the US since 2009? Are you just super-forgetful?

[Patrick Chewing]

You are an American. right? Like you're not an ex-pat or anything? You lived here since 2009?

Are you saying that terrorists have not targeted the US since 2009? Are you just super-forgetful?


You do know that targeting and attacking are two different things right?


The WTC was attacked in 1993 and the U.S.S. Cole in 1998 and Pervert-in-Chief was weak in a response and that led to 9/11. Or do you think 9/11 was a spontaneous event?

[Godzuki]

Obama's administration has done the bare minimum to support Israel in the eyes of Americans (and it mostly seems like timely flip-flopping depending on political consequence) and it can certainly be construed as "not very friendly" toward the country. Think things are still fine but Obama's admin has certainly been aggressive with Israel (for better or worse). John Kerry as a mouthpiece has just been a disaster. The restriction of FAA flights during the recent war with Hamas seemed like punishment for Israel defending itself to most observers. And there's the "asbergery" comments directed to Bibi by probably a high level person in the admin. The current administration is probably one of the most disliked by Israelis ever. Recently, was announced that US is arming some of the Palestinians in the West Bank, which seems questionable and breaches previous agreements between Israel-US. But then again, this is coming from the same administration that enacted "Fast and Furious" and a bunch of other BS. I don't think Obama is as much anti-Israel as his administration (and John Kerry especially) is just incompetent, they lead from behind, and has declining world standing. Nobody takes this admin seriously and you get the feeling Obama is willing to sell out Israel to appease other nations.

Obama administration was actually more neutral towards Israel and Palestinians. It came across as against Israel because they weren't fervently supporting Israel like past administrations. there were also incidents like extremist israeli's killing some palestinian kids, i think one was american, that gave some justifications that Israel had a lot of faults as well. to the point mass media, not just the administration ran with it just like they did with the Michael Brown bullshit. dumbass celebs like Rihanna, Dwight, Selena Gomez followed...

the mainstream media for awhile basically painted Israel as randomly shelling Palestinians and places like schools, just like they did the police randomly killing black people for no reason like with Ferguson(which again the dumbass celebs/athletes cheered on). only later do you see footage of Palestinian militants setting up tents covering rockets near schools to bomb Israel, and using the retaliatory strikes killing school children or shelters for their PR war. Same with the Ferguson shit where what Mike Brown did in the convenience store was completely ignored, and article after article was sympathetic to him being a martyr and black people everywhere being so victimized.

either way popular sentiment in this country is completely based on media sway. celebs and athletes follow with social media, and all of a sudden its a huge movement of retards.

[KevinNYC]

You do know that targeting and attacking are two different things right?


The WTC was attacked in 1993 and the U.S.S. Cole in 1998 and Pervert-in-Chief was weak in a response and that led to 9/11. Or do you think 9/11 was a spontaneous event?
:roll: :roll: :roll:

And then those big tough macho Vulcan neocon Republicans gained power and did what exactly?

[KevinNYC]

You do know that targeting and attacking are two different things right?

You live in or near NY (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/10/05/times-square-bomber-faces-sentencing-nyc/) right?

[9erempiree]

Radical Islam is the correct term.

I don't like when people say "diaper head sand niqqa"

[Dresta]

And?
It's a patent falsehood, as i've already explained. When the supreme religious leader of the Islamic Republic, has in the the past, suborned the murder of a Western writer, and which led to multiple attacks, injuries and deaths. Islamic nations, time and time again, have used whatever power and influence they have to wage war on free speech in western countries (see Turkey in 06).

While Muslims were rioting and burning down Danish embassies in Islamic countries, the leaders of these same countries, rather than suppressing them, actually encouraged them (the same countries where you don't do anything without the express approval of it leaders btw). But apparently ALL THESE PEOPLE aren't really muslims, because Obama says so.

[Dresta]

You do know that targeting and attacking are two different things right?


The WTC was attacked in 1993 and the U.S.S. Cole in 1998 and Pervert-in-Chief was weak in a response and that led to 9/11. Or do you think 9/11 was a spontaneous event?
Come on, lets give the man some credit: he did bomb that pharmaceutical factory in Sudan. Just as the Lewinsky affair was becoming dangerous to him, no less!

[Droid101]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

And then those big tough macho Vulcan neocon Republicans gained power and did what exactly?
Invaded a bunch of countries for no reason. Duh.

[Patrick Chewing]

Come on, lets give the man some credit: he did bomb that pharmaceutical factory in Sudan. Just as the Lewinsky affair was becoming dangerous to him, no less!

Then of course there's that audio clip where he states that he could've killed Bin Laden.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkfYBSuUHrk


I just want one of you Libs to admit that I'm right when I say that Democrats are completely incompetent on foreign affairs and in terrorism in general. No Democrat has the balls to tackle Islamic terrorism. They just leave it for the next guy. It's all about legacy for these sociopaths we elect to lead us.

[Droid101]

I just want one of you Cons to admit that I'm right when I say that Republicans are completely incompetent on foreign affairs and in terrorism in general.
:confusedshrug: