Windhorst: Cavaliers Players Ignore, Openly Gripe About David Blatt

[Kidbasketball20]

"It isn't just the casinos that are agape at how this is playing out

[Kidbasketball20]

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[3ball]

great article.

the reason no one responded to this thread is because they were too busy slamming Woj's article in the other thread, saying Woj "has always hated Lebron", etc...

but here's an article where the biggest lebron homer ever, says there is no leadership on the team... and naturally, this thread is a ghost town... typical of stans to ignore the truth.

lebron is not capable of developing lottery team into a champion like bird and jordan did - he's never done it, and he never will..

[miggyme1]

great article.

the reason no one responded to this thread is because they were too busy slamming Woj's article in the other thread, saying Woj "has always hated Lebron", etc...

but here's an article where the biggest lebron homer ever, says there is no leadership on the team... and naturally, this thread is a ghost town... typical of stans to ignore the truth.

lebron is not capable of developing lottery team into a champion like bird and jordan did - he's never done it, and he never will..


LMAO

u comparing the 80's celtics and 90's bulls, teams filled with hall of famers to this years cavs team? LMAO:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

and no im not a lebron fan but cmon son.....just shutup while u ahead

[KNOW1EDGE]

No one gives a fuhck.

[3ball]

LMAO

u comparing the 80's celtics and 90's bulls, teams filled with hall of famers to this years cavs team?


the bulls didn't have ANY hof's when Jordan first got there, and when Pippen came on board in 1988, he sucked for his first two years (only 7.9 ppg and then 14.4 ppg).

so Jordan BUILT THAT TEAM UP into champions - this is what lebron has never done, and is incapable of doing - he can't turn a lottery team into champions like jordan and bird did.

[MP.Trey]

Kyrie's attitude really disappointed me last night. Super passive and never seemed to change his facial expression all night.

It's a shame the players aren't buying in. I still like Blatt as a coach, though I'll admit I didn't get too see much games early this year. A period of adjustment is to be expected with a new team and new league altogether for Blatt but nearly halfway through the season, we should be a much better and more cohesive team than we are right now. Of course, making numerous trades (especially when you get J.R. Smith) doesn't help the locker room in the short term either but that's another issue and it kind of had to be done. Hope we can get a win streak going to edge Blatt off the hot seat a little.

[AnaheimLakers24]

Kyrie's attitude really disappointed me last night. Super passive and never seemed to change his facial expression all night.

It's a shame the players aren't buying in. I still like Blatt as a coach, though I'll admit I didn't get too see much games early this year. A period of adjustment is to be expected with a new team and new league altogether for Blatt but nearly halfway through the season, we should be a much better and more cohesive team than we are right now. Of course, making numerous trades (especially when you get J.R. Smith) doesn't help the locker room in the short term either but that's another issue and it kind of had to be done. Hope we can get a win streak going to edge Blatt off the hot seat a little.
They dont want to play with bran

[Hey Yo]

the bulls didn't have ANY hof's when Jordan first got there, and when Pippen came on board in 1988, he sucked for his first two years (only 7.9 ppg and then 14.4 ppg).

so Jordan BUILT THAT TEAM UP into champions - this is what lebron has never done, and is incapable of doing - he can't turn a lottery team into champions like jordan and bird did.
Jordan made no draft pick or trade decisions. Nor did he appoint Phil Jackson as HC or implement the triangle offense.

[atljonesbro]

Very toxic environment. I can't believe a professional team would act this way.

[AnaheimLakers24]

Jordan made no draft pick or trade decisions. Nor did he appoint Phil Jackson as HC or implement the triangle offense.
And he still won. Brin desperately trying to build the perfect team to cover all his faults and still cant get it done.
should crawl back to wade

[3ball]

Jordan made no draft pick or trade decisions.


but he was willing to be patient and wait for Pippen to develop from a 7.9 PPG player, into a 20 PPG player, and deal with the ups and downs along the way (i.e. Pippen quitting in Game 7 of 1990 ECF vs. Detroit due to the now-famous "migraine headaches" that Pippen admitted were brought on due to the pressure).

so again, Jordan turned a lottery team into champions - it didn't happen overnight though, which is why i think you are confused - lebron team-hops so he can win right away, which makes stans forget that it doesn't normally happen that way... it takes more time when you can't team-hop.
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[JimmyMcAdocious]

Blatt is the best thing to happen to the Cavs. He is giving the team something to gain and grow team unity around: their hatred for Blatt. After he gets canned, their next coach will get unwavering support and paired with the immense amount of talent on this roster, that will push them over the hump into run of championships that would make Sam Jones feel like he had a failure of a career.

[DukeDelonte13]

Cavs should say f*ck you to these spoiled children trying to run a franchise and stand by their guy.

I don't care if that means that all their stars leave in the immediate future.

Cavs will never, ever, ever have success if they keep on bending to the wills of the players.

[Marchesk]

Blatt is the best thing to happen to the Cavs. He is giving the team something to gain and grow team unity around: their hatred for Blatt. After he gets canned, their next coach will get unwavering support and paired with the immense amount of talent on this roster, that will push them over the hump into run of championships that would make Sam Jones feel like he had a failure of a career.

http://turtleboysports.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/bqodcibccaay60v-1.jpg

[3ball]

Jordan made no draft pick or trade decisions. Nor did he appoint Phil Jackson as HC or implement the triangle offense.
also, he didn't institute the triangle, but he accepted it, and learned to adapt his game to it, so that he could still achieve his normal production WITHIN that offense.

for wing players, they must have truly goat SKILLS to get theirs in the triangle without messing up the offense... that's why it's not surprising that only jordan and kobe have succeeded in doing so - they have the most skilled and versatile scoring ability of any wing players ever.

[poido123]

LMAO

u comparing the 80's celtics and 90's bulls, teams filled with hall of famers to this years cavs team? LMAO:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

and no im not a lebron fan but cmon son.....just shutup while u ahead



Just because the Cavs are playing like ass, does not mean they are any less talented.

3 allstars, 4 good role players and a few scrubs at the end of the bench is comparable in talent to any great team in history.

The difference is, Lebron wets the bed when he has to lead and the team isn't following him.

[TheMarkMadsen]

It's becoming so clear that Wade was the true leader of those heat teams

He taught them how to win and kept them focused and together as a team when times looked tough.

He might not have always of been the best player, but he was clearly the leader.

[Hey Yo]

but he was willing to be patient and wait for Pippen to develop from a 7.9 PPG player, into a 20 PPG player, and deal with the ups and downs along the way (i.e. Pippen quitting in Game 7 of 1990 ECF vs. Detroit due to the now-famous "migraine headaches" that Pippen admitted were brought on due to the pressure).

so again, Jordan turned a lottery team into champions - it didn't happen overnight though, which is why i think you are confused - lebron team-hops so he can win right away, which makes stans forget that it doesn't normally happen that way... normally, it takes time.
Jordan signed an 8yr extension in the fall of 1988 because of the money. As a habitual gambler, he chose money over patience. We both know that if any other team could have offered more, he would have signed there.

The Cavs lost the most games in the league over the last 4yrs combined since LeBron left and came back. To imply that James thought this was going to be a title year is flat out stupidity on your part.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Jordan signed an 8yr extension in the fall of 1988 because of the money. As a habitual gambler, he chose money over patience. We both know that if any other team could have offered more, he would have signed there.

The Cavs lost the most games in the league over the last 4yrs combined since LeBron left and came back. To imply that James thought this was going to be a title year is flat out stupidity on your part.

If bran didnt expect this to be a title year then why was Kevin Love the first person he called after signing with the cavs?

And why in Lebrons letter did he leave out the name of the most hyped prospect since himself while talking about how he was looking forward to developing young talent?

Because soon after Wiggins was traded for Love..

Only and idiot would think this was a coincedence

[poido123]

It's becoming so clear that Wade was the true leader of those heat teams

He taught them how to win and kept them focused and together as a team when times looked tough.

He might not have always of been the best player, but he was clearly the leader.



Pretty true.

Lebron cannot lead. That's evidently clear from how this team is blowing up before our eyes.


His carefully modelled superteam which was supposed to be superdominant and carry him into his retirement is falling apart.

And the letter...:oldlol:

[SamuraiSWISH]

They should've consulted w/ LeBron before signing Blatt if James wasn't a flip flopper between Miami, and Cleveland ... wouldn't have to drag a rookie coach, whose in over his head through the mud. Possibly staining the rest of his career opportunities.

You need a vet coach with a talent like LeBron. Someone with experience, whose been through the wars, and carries his own respect among veteran players. Van Gundy would be perfect for this team. He could get some of these guys to play defense, or at least get some great schemes in there. Jeff could have an opportunity at that elusive championship ring.

[CavaliersFTW]

Do you guys actually believe this shit? Brian Windhorst is the dude who wrote that Lebron and Jordan are on the same tier because of their bowleggedness and he's also the dude who said Lebron is "tortured" by an alleged super-memory because he recalls every shot he ever missed. Furthermore, Windhorst smugly told Skip Bayless that his mom taught Lebron sex-ed on natioanal television as a means to demonstrate how "close" he is to Lebron... in spite of Lebron choosing not to tell him he was coming back to Cleveland.

It's media fluff. Coming from a known sensationalist.

[JT123]

It's becoming so clear that Wade was the true leader of those heat teams

He taught them how to win and kept them focused and together as a team when times looked tough.

He might not have always of been the best player, but he was clearly the leader.
If Wade is such a great leader why are the Heat below .500 when he plays this season. The Cavs meanwhile are 6 games over .500 when Lebron plays.
Hmmmmmmm

[Hey Yo]

If bran didnt expect this to be a title year then why was Kevin Love the first person he called after signing with the cavs?

And why in Lebrons letter did he leave out the name of the most hyped prospect since himself while talking about how he was looking forward to developing young talent?

Because soon after Wiggins was traded for Love..

Only and idiot would think this was a coincedence
After what happen the first year with the Heat, you really think LeBron thought this would be a sure lock title year?

Only an idiot would think that was James' thought process. He knew and mentioned it would take time.

[BigMacAttack]

After what happen the first year with the Heat, you really think LeBron thought this would be a sure lock title year?

Only an idiot would think that was James' thought process. He knew and mentioned it would take time.

I bet he didnt think he'd be below .500 halfway through the season. Cant even drag a team of all stars, veterans and high draft picks to a winning record.

[Hey Yo]

It's becoming so clear that Wade was the true leader of those heat teams

He taught them how to win and kept them focused and together as a team when times looked tough.

He might not have always of been the best player, but he was clearly the leader.
As often as Wade was seen on the sidelines/bench wearing a suit and tie, the casual fan probably did think he was the coach/leader.

[Hey Yo]

I bet he didnt think he'd be below .500 halfway through the season. Cant even drag a team of all stars, veterans and high draft picks to a winning record.
They're above .500 when he's in the lineup, but agree that he thought they would be better overall at this point than the record suggests.

[christian1923]

I honestly feel bad for the real Cavs fans

[bluechox2]

lebrons got his minions from espn doing his dirty work to get coach fired

[Derka]

Brian Windhorst just pretty much invents his stories from thin air.

[IGOTGAME]

Do you guys actually believe this shit? Brian Windhorst is the dude who wrote that Lebron and Jordan are on the same tier because of their bowleggedness and he's also the dude who said Lebron is "tortured" by an alleged super-memory because he recalls every shot he ever missed. Furthermore, Windhorst smugly told Skip Bayless that his mom taught Lebron sex-ed on natioanal television as a means to demonstrate how "close" he is to Lebron... in spite of Lebron choosing not to tell him he was coming back to Cleveland.

It's media fluff. Coming from a known sensationalist.

pls tell me these things really happened?

[CavaliersFTW]

pls tell me these things really happened?
Tell you? I'll show you.

The guy is a sick sick person, see for yourself: http://youtu.be/Q_KDxF-jjmU?t=19s
Watch at least the first 2 minutes... tell me that doesn't creep you the f*ck out?

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11067098/lebron-james-greatest-weapon-brain
Bullet point/bottom line of the entire article: "Lebron remembers every miss from his entire career ..and it torments him"

Also I don't have a link to the bow-legged article but this poster tipped me off to it and based on prior articles/things Windhorst has said, I'm inclined to believe he mentioned this:

I remember an article from a long time ago, think it may have been by Woj, not sure. But it was comparing Lebron to MJ's greatness and what they have in common. And he mentions how they both are bow-legged and that somehow makes Lebron's greatness comparable to MJ's.

All in all, it was pretty pathetic. As usual.

[JT123]

Tell you? I'll show you.

The guy is a sick sick person, see for yourself: http://youtu.be/Q_KDxF-jjmU?t=19s
Watch at least the first 2 minutes... tell me that doesn't creep you the f*ck out?

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11067098/lebron-james-greatest-weapon-brain
Bullet point/bottom line of the entire article: "Lebron remembers every miss from his entire career ..and it torments him"

Also I don't have a link to the bow-legged article but this poster tipped me off to it and based on prior articles/things Windhorst has said, I'm inclined to believe he mentioned this:
I hadn't seen that First Take segment before. :biggums:
Windy really is a creepy delusional stalker who thinks he and Lebron are friends. :lol

[JimmyMcAdocious]

There is no way Windhorst isn't an ISH poster.

[CavaliersFTW]

I hadn't seen that First Take segment before. :biggums:
Windy really is a creepy delusional stalker who thinks he and Lebron are friends. :lol
"I knew Lebron before he needed to shave. If you go back and look at pictures of him when he was 14 he actually looks like a kid"

http://i.imgur.com/Et4v5EP.jpg

[CavaliersFTW]

There is no way Windhorst isn't an ISH poster.
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-zFi8siNt68g/U6tdLp7-aCI/AAAAAAAAFMw/5yIhkPAfDMI/s0/Pauk.jpg

[christian1923]

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-zFi8siNt68g/U6tdLp7-aCI/AAAAAAAAFMw/5yIhkPAfDMI/s0/Pauk.jpg
Never gets old :roll:

[Dro]

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-zFi8siNt68g/U6tdLp7-aCI/AAAAAAAAFMw/5yIhkPAfDMI/s0/Pauk.jpg
:lol

[poido123]

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-zFi8siNt68g/U6tdLp7-aCI/AAAAAAAAFMw/5yIhkPAfDMI/s0/Pauk.jpg


I haven't seen this yet so...



:roll: :roll: :roll:

[guy]

Windhorst was on Lebatard today and was asked if he thinks Lebron regrets going back. He said no but he might regret pushing for Love cause of the extra pressure to win a title that resulted. If there's even an inkling of the truth to that then wow, Lebron is clearly a bitch.

[FLDFSU]

I haven't seen this yet so...



:roll: :roll: :roll:

Only thing that :roll: :roll: is your dick getting hard at the sight of a Lebron thread.

This fool use to tell Heat fans about Norris Cole's 3rd grade girlfriend as late as July. Now this idiot couldn't pick Cole out of a two-person lineup. Nonetheless his obsession has allowed him to have committed to memory all the coaches Tristan Thompson has ever had.

The only person who is a creep is a bitch who follows around a grown who probably cares more about his dog's bowel movements than he does an idiot who follows him from team to team hating on a message board.

At least Windhorst get paid to talk about the contours of Lebron's @ss. Seek help.

[navy]

Brian Windhorst just pretty much invents his stories from thin air.
Windworst and Woj in one day.

:facepalm

[JimmyMcAdocious]

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-zFi8siNt68g/U6tdLp7-aCI/AAAAAAAAFMw/5yIhkPAfDMI/s0/Pauk.jpg

Bahaha. Love it every time.

[AnaheimLakers24]

Only thing that :roll: :roll: is your dick getting hard at the sight of a Lebron thread.

This fool use to tell Heat fans about Norris Cole's 3rd grade girlfriend as late as July. Now this idiot couldn't pick Cole out of a two-person lineup. Nonetheless his obsession has allowed him to have committed to memory all the coaches Tristan Thompson has ever had.

The only person who is a creep is a bitch who follows around a grown who probably cares more about his dog's bowel movements than he does an idiot who follows him from team to team hating on a message board.

At least Windhorst get paid to talk about the contours of Lebron's @ss. Seek help.
=:rant

You are so mad

[gts]

Windworst and Woj in one day.

:facepalm


and Dave McMenamin the ESPN Cavs beat writer echoed the same things today on ESPN radio here in LA so it's not just one writer it's several that are seeing this trend

[christian1923]

Somebody post that pre game picture of Lebron with Windhorst stalking him in the cut:lol

[CavaliersFTW]

Somebody post that pre game picture of Lebron with Windhorst stalking him in the cut:lol
http://www.trbimg.com/img-524caf67/turbine/sfl-heat-training-camp-20131001-029/920

"Hey Lebron wait up!"

[navy]

and Dave McMenamin the ESPN Cavs beat writer echoed the same things today on ESPN radio here in LA so it's not just one writer it's several that are seeing this trend
He's not connected yet, but least he's not agenda ridden like those other two.

[christian1923]

http://www.trbimg.com/img-524caf67/turbine/sfl-heat-training-camp-20131001-029/920

"Hey Lebron wait up!"
:roll: :roll:

Do you like Lebron?

[gts]

He's not connected yet, but least he's not agenda ridden like those other two.Mcten is a good writer.. still pissed ESPN moved him to the Cavs beat

He does his homework

[SamuraiSWISH]

http://www.trbimg.com/img-524caf67/turbine/sfl-heat-training-camp-20131001-029/920

"Hey Lebron wait up!"
So creepy. That sex-ed comment he made on First Take still gives me shivers.

[JT123]

Windworst and Woj in one day.

:facepalm
It's not a coincidence that they waited until Lebron came back to come out with articles about the supposed "team dysfunction."
They know if they wrote that stuff while Lebron was out no one would care enough to click on it. Now that Bron is back they are relieved, cause it means they can go back to causing controversy. :lol

[dubnation]

http://www.trbimg.com/img-524caf67/turbine/sfl-heat-training-camp-20131001-029/920

"Hey Lebron wait up!"

:roll: :roll:

gets me every time

[TheBigVeto]

lebron is not capable of developing lottery team into a champion like bird and jordan did - he's never done it, and he never will..

True. He's just like Magic or Kobe, just a bunch of bandwagoning betas.