WOJ pipe bomb: "Cavs need Lebron to show the leadership he promised"

[TheMarkMadsen]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/cavs-need-lebron-james-to-show-leadership-he-promised-173753124.html

bout time somebody in the media said this.

[Mr Exlax]

I agree 100%

[Real Men Wear Green]

True, but the LeBron James "leadership" is often for show in front of the camera. Not sure how much leading he does behind the scenes or if that's what grown men really need. What the Cavs need from James that he's not giving them and can is defensive intensity. We've seen him in past season defend as well as any perimeter player ever has. If he gave them that they would be a better team and it may inspire others in a truer "leadership by example" way. The little speeches he gives aren't changing anyone's life, that's really just hype from the various companies that make money off his image delivered via ESPN.

[LiLharvard]

True, but the LeBron James "leadership" is often for show in front of the camera. Not sure how much leading he does behind the scenes or if that's what grown men really need. What the Cavs need from James that he's not giving them and can is defensive intensity. We've seen him in past season defend as well as any perimeter player ever has. If he gave them that they would be a better team and it may inspire others in a truer "leadership by example" way. The little speeches he gives aren't changing anyone's life, that's really just hype from the various companies that make money off his image delivered via ESPN.


well said sir.

[edrick]

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Lebron played harder on defense last night, for sure. Kevin Love on the other hand doesn't even know what playing hard on defense means.

[christian1923]

Lebron played harder on defense last night, for sure. Kevin Love on the other hand doesn't even know what playing hard on defense means.
Blame the GM Lebron, everyone knew that he had no girth on D (no homo)

[ArbitraryWater]

That's not a pipe bomb... unless he breakin' a trade, thats just WOJ being a clown..

Here, full story on him: http://www.newrepublic.com/article/120572/adrian-wojnarowski-how-basketballs-reporting-machine-gets-his-scoops

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LeBron literally rent free in his head

[Real Men Wear Green]

Lebron played harder on defense last night, for sure. Kevin Love on the other hand doesn't even know what playing hard on defense means.
I could believe James tried harder last night, I didn't watch that particular game. But the games I've seen of him this season he wasn't giving the defensive effort. As for Love, his D is a problem but unlike James he's never been a good defender and doesn't really have the physical tools to stop people. James is the biggest talent and thus we expect more from him.

[Bandito]

Lebron played harder on defense last night, for sure. Kevin Love on the other hand doesn't even know what playing hard on defense means.
he played one good average defensive game. Great by him.:applause:


Waiting for him to come back to earth next game.

[kurple]

That's not a pipe bomb... unless he breakin' a trade, thats just WOJ being a clown..


LeBron literally rent free in his head
or maybe woj just lives rent free in that guys head

[RedBlackAttack]

Before James signed as a free agent, the Cavaliers management wanted nothing to do with Jackson as a coach. They did their research and had their answers. Now, they understand the reality: If James won't play for the coach, what choice do they have there? James wouldn't be left to pay the buyout on Blatt's contract, nor the luxury tax on Thompson's extension. It'll simply be Klutch Sports gathering the commissions on Jackson's and Thompson's deals.

:facepalm

Ugh.

[HOoopCityJones]

That shit has to be tampering.

[plowking]

Bron is coming to Miami again. :oldlol:

[chips93]

That's not a pipe bomb... unless he breakin' a trade, thats just WOJ being a clown..

Here, full story on him: http://www.newrepublic.com/article/120572/adrian-wojnarowski-how-basketballs-reporting-machine-gets-his-scoops

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LeBron literally rent free in his head

thats a great article

woj is head ans shoulders above the rest of the nba reporters, but he abuses his rep by going after lebron.

that article does a great job showing how woj didnt have a clue where lebron was gonna go, then after he announced, acted as if he knew all along, spinning a narrative as to why lebron chose the heat.

[STATUTORY]

That's not a pipe bomb... unless he breakin' a trade, thats just WOJ being a clown..

Here, full story on him: http://www.newrepublic.com/article/120572/adrian-wojnarowski-how-basketballs-reporting-machine-gets-his-scoops

http://i.gyazo.com/e0b011a2c4b7c7eecf6d30a76b8ff606.png

LeBron literally rent free in his head

n99a gets paid per hits on his articles about lebran and we talking about "rent free" :roll: :roll:

[Bandito]

Bron is coming to Miami again. :oldlol:
I can see that. He needs Bosh's and Wade's leadership steering him to the Finals again.:lol :lol :roll:

[bluechox2]

lebron exposed

[gts]

That's not a pipe bomb... unless he breakin' a trade, thats just WOJ being a clown..

Here, full story on him: http://www.newrepublic.com/article/120572/adrian-wojnarowski-how-basketballs-reporting-machine-gets-his-scoops

http://i.gyazo.com/e0b011a2c4b7c7eecf6d30a76b8ff606.png

LeBron literally rent free in his head

Shooting the messenger instead of discussing the topic again I see :lol

How come everytime somebody in the media is critical of Lebron you take it personal and lash out at the reporter instead of debating the facts in the article


Fact is Lebron has not lived up to being the team leader the Cavs need this season while Blatt's trying mold this current roster into a cohesive unit

[plowking]

Shooting the messenger instead of discussing the topic again I see :lol

How come everytime somebody in the media is critical of Lebron you take it personal and lash out at the reporter instead of debating the facts in the article


Fact is Lebron has not lived up to being the team leader the Cavs need this season while Blatt's trying mold this current roster into a cohesive unit

Irony at its finest.

You literally throw bitch fits and get passive aggressive whenever Kobe is mentioned in a negative light. Deflect!

[Haymaker]

Why Bron wants to play for a discarded coach?

[ArbitraryWater]

Shooting the messenger instead of discussing the topic again I see :lol

How come everytime somebody in the media is critical of Lebron you take it personal and lash out at the reporter instead of debating the facts in the article


Fact is Lebron has not lived up to being the team leader the Cavs need this season while Blatt's trying mold this current roster into a cohesive unit


show me just one other example.. the only times you appear in the nba forum is to defend your godbe.

[RedBlackAttack]

thats a great article

woj is head ans shoulders above the rest of the nba reporters, but he abuses his rep by going after lebron.

that article does a great job showing how woj didnt have a clue where lebron was gonna go, then after he announced, acted as if he knew all along, spinning a narrative as to why lebron chose the heat.
So, you've watched every Cavs game so far this season and you disagree with what he says in that article? I happen to think he's spot-on.

And, TT turning down a four year, $52 million contract is legitimately scary. Not that our cap situation is going to be in a place where we can acquire a lot of outside talent via free agency, but that's just lunacy for a player like Tristan.

And, you and I both know who's the catalyst for him getting that offer. But turning it down?! Seriously, LRMR? That's not enough of an overpay?

[gts]

show me just one other example.. the only times you appear in the nba forum is to defend your godbe.yet here I am in a Lebron Caveliers thread.... and here you are again ignoring the critic on Lebron I and others have made and instead attacking the messenger

[poido123]

Shooting the messenger instead of discussing the topic again I see :lol

How come everytime somebody in the media is critical of Lebron you take it personal and lash out at the reporter instead of debating the facts in the article


Fact is Lebron has not lived up to being the team leader the Cavs need this season while Blatt's trying mold this current roster into a cohesive unit


Because posters with limited basketball knowledge (Arbitrary Waters) have no defense against such damning accusations made by one of the most respected news breakers in the NBA.

Instead of logically discussing the topic, AW would rather resort to "rent free" stupidity to deflect his butthurt from such accusations of his hero.


That "rent free" shit is sooo annoying. :mad:


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[beastee]

If Lebron's camp really has that much power in the organization...this will NEVER work. Some players are amazing on the court, but outside of it think they know everything. This guy clearly thinks he is going to control everything, but with diminishing skills he is going to be sorely wrong.

[gts]

Because posters with limited basketball knowledge (Arbitrary Waters) have no defense against such damning accusations made by one of the most respected news breakers in the NBA.

Instead of logically discussing the topic, AW would rather resort to "rent free" stupidity to deflect his butthurt from such accusations of his hero.


That "rent free" shit is sooo annoying. :mad:


Thing is it's not even a bad article and it really doesn't slam Lebron that much other than to point out that he needs to step up and be the leader he said he was going to be... The team is playing uninspired ball they have been all year, they're hovering around .500 and they need the one voice that can rise above the noise and to bring this team together and yet he's not doing it...

instead they hear half hearted non committal support for the coach when asked and a somewhat half hearted effort on the floor and rumblings from the lockerroom

Woj isin't the only one saying this, ESPN has said it too, they're talking about it on LA radio too long before Woj did

[ArbitraryWater]

Because posters with limited basketball knowledge (Arbitrary Waters) have no defense against such damning accusations made by one of the most respected news breakers in the NBA.

Instead of logically discussing the topic, AW would rather resort to "rent free" stupidity to deflect his butthurt from such accusations of his hero.


That "rent free" shit is sooo annoying. :mad:


DISCLAIMER:

This post is protected by "rent free" responses. Those who do are admitting to being Lebron d.ckslobberers and cannot get enough d.ck in general.



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[poido123]

Thing is it's not even a bad article and it really doesn't slam Lebron that much other than to point out that he needs to step up and be the leader he said he was going to be... The team is playing uninspired ball they have been all year, they're hovering around .500 and they need the one voice that can rise above the noise and to bring this team together and yet he's not doing it...

instead they hear half hearted non committal support for the coach when asked and a somewhat half hearted effort on the floor and rumblings from the lockerroom

Woj isin't the only one saying this, ESPN has said it too, they're talking about it on LA radio too long before Woj did



I wouldn't be surprised if there's a lot of finger pointing going on. If Blatt does inevitably get fired, then I wonder what other excuses there will be?

The older heads here know Lebron and can see through the bullshit.

It's just the younger fans who reflect Lebron's attitude, will have trouble grasping what sort of person he is...


You can only hide insecurities for so long before it rears its ugly head.

I wouldn't be surprised if Lebron gets done for HGH use and the Cleveland experiment never reaches the heights it was intended to do.

[AnaheimLakers24]

No one wants to coach bran

[poido123]

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Note the "Disclaimer." Who really gets owned here?


:oldlol:


I posted rent free to a poster who originally started that shit. Only language he understands.

[Bandito]

Shooting the messenger instead of discussing the topic again I see :lol

How come everytime somebody in the media is critical of Lebron you take it personal and lash out at the reporter instead of debating the facts in the article


Fact is Lebron has not lived up to being the team leader the Cavs need this season while Blatt's trying mold this current roster into a cohesive unit
Because of his religious stanning of Lebron due to the LOWEST IQ of ISH.

[Bandito]

Note the "Disclaimer." Who really gets owned here?


:oldlol:


I posted rent free to a poster who originally started that shit. Only language he understands.
What's weird is that he has it bookmark like it pertains to him:biggums:

[poido123]

What's weird is that he has it bookmark like it pertains to him:biggums:



That's some creepy level stalkerage s.hit right there.



:biggums:

[GimmeThat]

that's like saying Eli Manning should tell his teammates we are going to carry the coach.

or maybe it has happened already.


-the NEW YORK GIANTS is what AMERICA should be about-

[knicksman]

Nobody respects a statpadder so how can he lead. Thats the main reason why bran needs stacked teams because he doesnt have the leadership of a russell/duncan to win it all.

[Dro]

Article is spot on yet some posters still deny it......Amazing......

[DatAsh]

What the Cavs need from James that he's not giving them and can is defensive intensity. We've seen him in past season defend as well as any perimeter player ever has. If he gave them that they would be a better team and it may inspire others in a truer "leadership by example" way..

I agree with this.

[Done_And_Done]

That's not a pipe bomb... unless he breakin' a trade, thats just WOJ being a clown..

Here, full story on him: http://www.newrepublic.com/article/120572/adrian-wojnarowski-how-basketballs-reporting-machine-gets-his-scoops

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LeBron literally rent free in his head

With the exception of a few assertions,
looks like accurate reporting to me...

[Rose'sACL]

he played one good average defensive game. Great by him.:applause:


Waiting for him to come back to earth next game.
what do you mean ? he played great defense.

[Rose'sACL]

With the exception of a few assertions,
looks like accurate reporting to me...
have you seen actual articles by woj ? he is only good at breaking trade news. go read his columns. it is way more like an ISH poster by which i mean that he assumes a lot of stuff instead of using "sources" like he does when breaking trades.
My theory is that he has to write articles that voice the opinions of his sources so that he can get the news first when trades happen. Bring me a good article written by woj that isn't speculation. This isn't even me or just this article. An article earlier this year had so much assumptions that it had r/nba calling him out who are really big Woj fans.

[Batz]

Bias and accusation's aside, you'd be pretty dull to argue that Lebron has shown an impressive leadership stance thus far this season.

Woj is on point here. I'm not just saying it because of his reputation. Lebron is not stepping up in terms of what you'd expect someone of his nature and status to step into. I know I'm not impressed. Which is a odd as I've always enjoyed Lebron James' game as a whole.

I cannot say for sure what's going on internally. It is obvious that some things are the media; mostly ESPN; just making stuff up or blowing this out of the water simply for shock factor.

What's awful is people are falling for it, but concurrently you do have to put Lebron's head on the end of the stick, as the way he's leading the team (or not), especially on the defensive end is not the Lebron James I enjoyed watching. He's a 2x champion, finals MVP, league MVP, a giant in a locker room of children. I have yet to be impressed by him and this Cavs team this season. Which is not good.

[Rose'sACL]

Bias and accusation's aside, you'd be pretty dull to argue that Lebron has shown an impressive leadership stance thus far this season.

Woj is on point here. I'm not just saying it because of his reputation. Lebron is not stepping up in terms of what you'd expect someone of his nature and status to step into. I know I'm not impressed. Which is a odd as I've always enjoyed Lebron James' game as a whole.

I cannot say for sure what's going on internally. It is obvious that some things are the media; mostly ESPN; just making stuff up or blowing this out of the water simply for shock factor.

What's awful is people are falling for it, but concurrently you do have to put Lebron's head on the end of the stick, as the way he's leading the team (or not), especially on the defensive end is not the Lebron James I enjoyed watching. He's a 2x champion, finals MVP, league MVP, a giant in a locker room of children. I have yet to be impressed by him and this Cavs team this season. Which is not good.
i don't like lebron because he cares a lot for his friends but this year is okay for me given that he was not 100% himself. If he goes tomorrow and asks for blatt to be fired if he really is not doing a good job then believe me, the whole world would only want one thing for cavs to do this year which is to win a championship otherwise everyone would blame lebron for getting blatt fired. He played great defense last night so until he shows bad defense again, i can't blame him.

[Mr. Jabbar]

waiting for brans leadership

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[sportjames23]

True, but the LeBron James "leadership" is often for show in front of the camera. Not sure how much leading he does behind the scenes or if that's what grown men really need. What the Cavs need from James that he's not giving them and can is defensive intensity. We've seen him in past season defend as well as any perimeter player ever has. If he gave them that they would be a better team and it may inspire others in a truer "leadership by example" way. The little speeches he gives aren't changing anyone's life, that's really just hype from the various companies that make money off his image delivered via ESPN.

This.

[J Shuttlesworth]

I guess I'll chime in here since it's an interesting article/topic. Doubt I'll converse much since this thread is filled with trolls who can't speak about certain people objectively.

I've been saying for a good majority of the season that LeBron's leadership hasn't been good enough. People will allude to the media stuff and things like Bron shoving Blatt to avoid the T, but that's all sensationalized ESPN bullshit that people look into too much. When I'm judging a players leadership, it's not about speeches or "endorsing Blatt" or any real media related shit. It's about how a player looks on the floor to set an example for his team. It's far more about what happens while the game is being played as opposed to locker room/bench stories.

LeBron's body language is what has concerned me most of the season. I think a lot of is that he's gotten kind of used to coasting in the season, especially in 2014. The 2014 Heat were a good enough team to make the finals even during a lackluster season for them w/ Wade resting 30ish games. Now he's in a completely different position where if he does this, the team will dip in the EC standings, especially with good teams like Toronto/Washington/Atlanta/Chicago playing well.

People will say "Why doesn't he just step it up?"... well it's not that easy. He's obviously been having health problems so far this season. People will say he was resting to "activate GM mode" or "take vacation in Miami" but it's pretty clear that he was hurt. Anyone who saw LeBron pre-two week break, and last night will have seen a giant difference in health/athleticism. His body hasn't been in the right conditions to really show the energy/hustle that can inspire the rest of the team to play harder. What we saw last night against the Suns was a great sign. LeBron looked athletic as ****, and you could tell that guys like JR Smith were feeding off of it and the Cavs actually made a decent come back after being down 19. What I saw last night was an example of what his leadership should be. He was playing aggressively on defense, playing the passing lanes, taking it to the rim in the half court, setting up teammates. I noticed that this run the Cavs went on occured when the team essentially disregarded Blatt and just had LeBron run the plays whether off isos, or PnR's, etc.

Outside of LeBron, the other stars Kyrie and Love need to play with some god damn urgency and passion. I've rarely seen it from them... especially Love. They are established players in the league but they don't appear to have the right mindset to be on a winning team. Hell... ****ing JR Smith is playing more aggressively than them from what I've seen thus far. I think the Cavs will pick it up, but it's pretty clear that Blatt is having trouble reaching the entire team. Even when LeBron was resting, players were disregarding his play calling, and people mentioning Lue calling TO's on his own. They really need a motivator as a coach to help get Love/Irving in the right mindset.

Pretty much everyone is at fault for what's going on in Cleveland right now, outside of maybe Andy V

[oarabbus]

n99a gets paid per hits on his articles about lebran and we talking about "rent free" :roll: :roll:


:roll:

Actually a fantastic point :applause:

[Rose'sACL]

With Detroit sliding down the standings, Wojnarowski broke nearly every significant—and insignificant—Pistons story for a half-decade: the Allen Iverson trade, the Amir Johnson trade, drafting Austin Daye, signing Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva, hiring John Kuester, trading Aaron Afflalo, signing Chris Wilcox, signing Ben Wallace, drafting Greg Monroe, signing Tracy McGrady, Rip Hamilton arguing with John Kuester, drafting Brandon Knight, hiring Lawrence Frank, re-signing Tayshuan Prince, re-signing Rodney Stuckey, trading Ben Gordon, signing Josh Smith, signing Chauncey Billups, signing Brandon Jennings, signing Josh Harrellson, and firing Mo Cheeks. While Wojnarowski was busy breaking news about the team, he wasn’t busy analyzing it: Between 2008 and 2012, Wojnarowski didn’t write a negative piece about Dumars or the Pistons, despite the fact that they had transformed from a perennial contender to an also-ran. Instead, Wojnarowski penned several sympathetic profiles of Dumars, including ones that covered his completion of his college degree and another wholly about his defensive skills as a player in the 1980s.

By 2012, Wojnarowski could no longer ignore how poorly Dumars was performing, so he wrote a piece on the Pistons’ rebuilding. It included heavy participation from Dumars and unearned optimism like “Slowly, surely, Dumars is regenerating the Pistons again.” In each of the two seasons after the piece ran, the Pistons went 29–53 and missed qualifying for the playoffs by nine games. It also emphasized Dumars’ strong relationship with coach Lawrence Frank, “who has returned accountability to the locker room.” Dumars would fire Frank six months later.

In 2010, the NBA fined Dumars $500,000 for leaking multiple confidential league memos to Wojnarowski, according to multiple sources. This matches the third largest publicly known fine the league has ever handed down. The NBA decided that too many memos were making it into the media, so they conducted a sting operation over several months. They would change a few words or numbers in different team’s copies of otherwise identical memos, so that when the memos leaked they could spot the small differences and trace them back to the leaker. This approach caught Dumars red-handed, as well as an executive from another team who was fined $12,500 for leaking to a draft-focused website. Joe Dumars, the Detroit Pistons, and the NBA all declined to comment on the fine.

[Collie]

Damn, did TT REALLY turn down 13m per? Speaks volumes