Michael Kidd Gilchrist is a huge bust so far

[PieceOfFelt]

This ****ing guy was the second pick in the draft and he's still nothing more than an ok role player. It's his third year in the NBA and he's just below 10 points per game. He doesn't do anything great and he's proven to be very injury prone. This is pathetic for the second overall pick in a draft.

[Dr. Ice]

What? Hasn't he been one of their most impactful players this season?

[PieceOfFelt]

What? Hasn't he been one of their most impactful players this season?

If that's impactful then they really have no ****ing hope. The guy hasn't improved nearly enough for a player taken that high.

[PieceOfFelt]

At worst the #2 overall pick in a draft should be a several time all star. This guy looks like a career role player who will never sniff an all star game.

[WallIn]

I'd take #2 pick MKG over #3 pick Otto Porter any time of the day.

[SugarHill]

At worst the #2 overall pick in a draft should be a several time all star. This guy looks like a career role player who will never sniff an all star game.
Number 2 picks have not been that great historically, believe it or not

[ralph_i_el]

defense is cool tho

[outbreak]

I'd take #2 pick MKG over #3 pick Otto Porter any time of the day.

I'd take #2 pick MKG over #2 pick Derrick Williams any time of the day.

[TheMilkyBarKid]

Op clearly rarely watches Charlotte. He is great on D, a fantastic rebounder from the SF position and considering he has just reconstructed his jumpshot he is doing alright.

I don't expect him to end up as a perennial allstar, however he could get a few nods at his peak, plus is a chance to make all-defensive teams in the future.

[PieceOfFelt]

Op clearly rarely watches Charlotte. He is great on D, a fantastic rebounder from the SF position and considering he has just reconstructed his jumpshot he is doing alright.

I don't expect him to end up as a perennial allstar, however he could get a few nods at his peak, plus is a chance to make all-defensive teams in the future.

He was the #2 pick in the ****ing draft you ****ing dolt. He's not great on d, he's good on d. Fantastic rebounder? 5.7 rebounds for his career and 6.8 in 26 minutes this year. And don't give me the lack of minutes as an excuse. That's not a plus, it's a negative. He's not on the court more because he's a marginal offensive player at best and he's always hurt.

[PieceOfFelt]

Op clearly rarely watches Charlotte. He is great on D, a fantastic rebounder from the SF position and considering he has just reconstructed his jumpshot he is doing alright.

I don't expect him to end up as a perennial allstar, however he could get a few nods at his peak, plus is a chance to make all-defensive teams in the future.

Could get a few nods? He's in his third year and can't crack 10 ppg on a shit team.

[Ramza]

He was the #2 pick in the ****ing draft you ****ing dolt. He's not great on d, he's good on d. Fantastic rebounder? 5.7 rebounds for his career and 6.8 in 26 minutes this year. And don't give me the lack of minutes as an excuse. That's not a plus, it's a negative. He's not on the court more because he's a marginal offensive player at best and he's always hurt.
Someone's sodium levels are critical.

[outbreak]

He was the #2 pick in the ****ing draft you ****ing dolt. He's not great on d, he's good on d. Fantastic rebounder? 5.7 rebounds for his career and 6.8 in 26 minutes this year. And don't give me the lack of minutes as an excuse. That's not a plus, it's a negative. He's not on the court more because he's a marginal offensive player at best and he's always hurt.

How many years have you been watching basketball? You can't say someone who is a decent contributor is a "huge bust". He hasn't been as good as hoped but a "huge bust" is someone who doesn't add anything.

[PieceOfFelt]

How many years have you been watching basketball? You can't say someone who is a decent contributor is a "huge bust". He hasn't been as good as hoped but a "huge bust" is someone who doesn't add anything.

He's a huge bust because of his second overall position in the draft. Much more is demanded of a guy taken that high in the draft. He's a decent contributor to an awful team.

[SwishSquared]

If you saw Charlotte play without him this year, they looked pretty bad. He makes an impact on that roster. They played poorly without him.

[TheMilkyBarKid]

He was the #2 pick in the ****ing draft you ****ing dolt. He's not great on d, he's good on d. Fantastic rebounder? 5.7 rebounds for his career and 6.8 in 26 minutes this year. And don't give me the lack of minutes as an excuse. That's not a plus, it's a negative. He's not on the court more because he's a marginal offensive player at best and he's always hurt.
I don't remember taking a crap in your cereal this morning so calm down.

For a 21 year old he is a pretty damn good defender and 6.8 rebounds per 26 would probably to equate to just under 10 rebounds per 36. For a SF, that is excellent.

The Hornets drafted him knowing for the first few seasons his offense would could from his hustle and athleticism and now he is working on his jumpshot. Put him on a better ran team and I'd bet he would look head and shoulders better.

[PieceOfFelt]

I don't remember taking a crap in your cereal this morning so calm down.

For a 21 year old he is a pretty damn good defender and 6.8 rebounds per 26 would probably to equate to just under 10 rebounds per 36. For a SF, that is excellent.

The Hornets drafted him knowing for the first few seasons his offense would could from his hustle and athleticism and now he is working on his jumpshot. Put him on a better ran team and I'd bet he would look head and shoulders better.

The guy can only give you 26 minutes per game because he's constantly hurt and a sub par offensive player.

[D-FENS]

This ****ing guy was the second pick in the draft and he's still nothing more than an ok role player. It's his third year in the NBA and he's just below 10 points per game. He doesn't do anything great and he's proven to be very injury prone. This is pathetic for the second overall pick in a draft.

Nothing great?

He's one of the best perimeter defenders in the league

[screeningnick]

He's definitely not what you'd expect from a high pick, but I don't think anyone expected him to be a 20+ ppg scorer. His game is beyond the stats, great defence and hustle and is the quintessential glue guy every team wants. Also judging on numbers alone he could be the best rebounding SF in the game, I have no idea what OP is talking about.

[PieceOfFelt]

He's definitely not what you'd expect from a high pick, but I don't think anyone expected him to be a 20+ ppg scorer. His game is beyond the stats, great defence and hustle and is the quintessential glue guy every team wants. Also judging on numbers alone he could be the best rebounding SF in the game, I have no idea what OP is talking about.

You don't take glue guys second overall, genius. The 2nd overall position brings higher expectations and him being merely a "hustle" or "glue" guy makes him a mighty big bust thus far.

[Done_And_Done]

MKG is still only 21 years old???

Feels like he's been in the league for a while now. Tons of time to improve when you're barely old enough to drink a beer.

[GimmeThat]

You don't take glue guys second overall, genius. The 2nd overall position brings higher expectations and him being merely a "hustle" or "glue" guy makes him a mighty big bust thus far.

What if you have multiple 1st round picks in one draft. ?

[AirFederer]

Time to unveil the D

[KembaWalker]

The MKG hate is strong in this one

Michael Beasley
Hasheem Thabeet
Wesley Johnson
Derrick Williams

All drafted 2nd since 2008 but you chose to hate on a 21 year old who can still improve and actually contributes :facepalm :biggums:

[oarabbus]

Op clearly rarely watches Charlotte. He is great on D, a fantastic rebounder from the SF position and considering he has just reconstructed his jumpshot he is doing alright.

I don't expect him to end up as a perennial allstar, however he could get a few nods at his peak, plus is a chance to make all-defensive teams in the future.


No way he is going to be an All star or get any nods, I just don't see it. All-D teams though is very likely. He's nowhere near as big a bust as OP is trying to make him out to be... here are some other #2 picks

Derrick Williams
Evan Turner
Hasheem Thabeet :oldlol:
Michael Beasley
Marvin Williams
Emeka Okafor
Jay Williams
Darko Milicic

MKG's somewhere below average but by no means a bust if you compare him to other #2 picks. I mean just Hasheem Thabeet alone, precludes MKG from being a bust. Not to mention you have Anthony Bennett going #1 in his year.

[Lebron23]

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http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/visual/whatshot/71913_MKG.jpg

[KembaWalker]

https://espngrantland.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/michael-kidd-gilchrist.jpg

http://media.kentucky.com/smedia/2013/10/01/17/54/12DnXd.AuSt.79.jpg

http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/visual/whatshot/71913_MKG.jpg

"Posts pics from past seasons"

He has worked on his shot and it's improved this year ass wipe, damn the hate on this kid :biggums:

He is 21 years old, still improving, judge him in 5 more years

[senelcoolidge]

21 is young, but he maybe washed up by the time he's 30. A #2 pick should not be a glue guy.

[Magic731]

He probably hasn't performed to the expectations a number 2 pick should carry, but there are plenty worse draft picks, even from his own draft. What the hell has Thomas Robinson done? What about Bennett And Porter from the next draft?

[Asiantastic]

He hasn't played up to his expectations, but he's getting better. At 21, he still has a long time in this league to improve. He worked on his jumper a lot over the offseason, thank god, and that's probably just the first of many things he'll be better at.

[CelticBaller]

one of the best perimeter defenders at 21 years old and he's a bust?

lmao

[Dresta]

OP's thread has proven to be a huge bust.

[imdaman99]

I'd rather have him than Melo going forward though.

What's worse than an aging star?

[FireDavidKahn]

Anyone who thinks this kid has a remote chance in hell at making an all-star game has no clue about the game of basketball.:oldlol:

[Thorpesaurous]

Tony Allen's been in the league for a decade playing a pretty similar game. I think he'll be fine. Offensively he'll always be too limited to ever be a star. But he's got enough physical gifts and his effort is consistently plus enough that he's got a role in the league. He'd look better on a team that didn't need as much spacing around a post up big and a pick and roll PG. It'd also help if they had more shooting around him anyway.

[KobesFinger]

7RPG in 26 minutes at the 3 is good

[OnFire]

Thats because the idiot 76ers and their idiotic embarrassing strategy of tanking forgot a couple important things like:

Veteran leadership and good coaching to help to progress the young talent... they just have a pile of shit, embarrassing organization and thats why none of the players are doing anything... talk about an opportunity for empty stats... K LOVE would go 44/22/5 on the 76ers.

[Mr. I'm So Rad]

The MKG hate is strong in this one

Michael Beasley
Hasheem Thabeet
Wesley Johnson
Derrick Williams

All drafted 2nd since 2008 but you chose to hate on a 21 year old who can still improve and actually contributes :facepalm :biggums:

Wes Johnson was 4th. Evan Turner was 2nd in 2010

[OnFire]

What more we have to say about Beasley? He's so bad no one wants him in the Western Hemisphere and he's so stupid that he takes twitter pictures with his weed in the background.

[HurricaneKid]

He was the #2 pick in the ****ing draft you ****ing dolt. He's not great on d, he's good on d. Fantastic rebounder? 5.7 rebounds for his career and 6.8 in 26 minutes this year. And don't give me the lack of minutes as an excuse. That's not a plus, it's a negative. He's not on the court more because he's a marginal offensive player at best and he's always hurt.

First off, he is the best #2 pick since Durant (Thabeet, Evan Turner, take your pick).

Secondly, he IS great on D. You haven't watched him play a single game I would bet. He is an athletic anomoly and is outstanding on D.

Third, typical ISH thinking: you can't contribute if you can't score or steal rebounds. The Hornets are 9.9 points/100 possessions better with him on the floor than without him this year.

[Yoda]

This ****ing guy was the second pick in the draft and he's still nothing more than an ok role player. It's his third year in the NBA and he's just below 10 points per game. He doesn't do anything great and he's proven to be very injury prone. This is pathetic for the second overall pick in a draft.

http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/23406482.jpg

[UK2K]

Not a bust at all.

Everyone knew his ceiling was about 12/7/3 a game. His defense and high motor got him drafted, not his stats.

[UK2K]

7RPG in 26 minutes at the 3 is good
No chit..

What basketball is OP watching

:biggums:

[LJJ]

Charlotte just has a turrible draft history. Okafor, Felton, Morrison, MKG, Cody Zeller. Those are the guys they took with top 5 picks, there's not a single winner in there. Not even close.

[DukeDelonte13]

he's not met or exceeded expectations yet but he's not a bust.

Cavs came very very close to trading up for him, i think there was a deal on the table in place and the bobcats rejected it. Not only is he a former teammate of Kyrie but he spent a ton of time in Cleveland pre-draft. His agent even told him before he went up to the podium he was going to wind up in Cleveland.


MKG was very hyped pre draft much like Evan Turner. I'll admit I was bummed when Charlotte took him at #2.

Thomas Robinson was another lotto pick out of that draft that was though to be a lock as a great player.

[outbreak]

OP seems to have the idea that any top pick has to be a super star or they are a bust. That's not true. Not every pick is going to be a star player. A bust is someone who contributes nothing, MKG has a long career a head of him and was never touted to be a star scoring type player to begin with.

[Mass Debator]

I expected more, but yeah, not a bust. Starter for a championship squad though?...don't see it...not yet.

[ihatetimthomas]

"Posts pics from past seasons"

He has worked on his shot and it's improved this year ass wipe, damn the hate on this kid :biggums:

He is 21 years old, still improving, judge him in 5 more years

Not here to judge if he is a bust or not, but it's not like he a rookie. You generally can judge a player in their 3rd season of basketball, regardless of age. Esp if they are getting consistent minutes. You are saying wait til his 8th season to judge but that's really long. You can get a decent feel for a player once they enter year 3. Now sure there are plenty of late bloomers but for the most part you get to see what kind of player they are by year 3-4.

[PieceOfFelt]

OP seems to have the idea that any top pick has to be a super star or they are a bust. That's not true. Not every pick is going to be a star player. A bust is someone who contributes nothing, MKG has a long career a head of him and was never touted to be a star scoring type player to begin with.

That's not at all what I said, smart ass. I consider a player like him a bust when they are not even a threat to make an all star game or two and right now he's not a threat to do that. A failed #2 overall pick can set a franchise back several years, that's why it's so important that a pick that high hits.

[KembaWalker]

Not here to judge if he is a bust or not, but it's not like he a rookie. You generally can judge a player in their 3rd season of basketball, regardless of age. Esp if they are getting consistent minutes. You are saying wait til his 8th season to judge but that's really long. You can get a decent feel for a player once they enter year 3. Now sure there are plenty of late bloomers but for the most part you get to see what kind of player they are by year 3-4.

I understand what you are saying, and I agree, you can get a feel for a player. What I am saying is yes we know what kind of player he is but he is improving, and has shown to have the work ethic to want to improve, OP judging him as a bust this early is insane

[Lebron23]

He is officially an nba draft bust. That's why the Hornets waived him.

[Lebron23]

he's not met or exceeded expectations yet but he's not a bust.

Cavs came very very close to trading up for him, i think there was a deal on the table in place and the bobcats rejected it. Not only is he a former teammate of Kyrie but he spent a ton of time in Cleveland pre-draft. His agent even told him before he went up to the podium he was going to wind up in Cleveland.


MKG was very hyped pre draft much like Evan Turner. I'll admit I was bummed when Charlotte took him at #2.

Thomas Robinson was another lotto pick out of that draft that was though to be a lock as a great player.
Michael Jordan is a terrible talent evaluator. The first time i saw him shot a basketball i knew that this guy was going to be an nba draft bust.

[bullettooth]

Michael Jordan is a terrible talent evaluator. The first time i saw him shot a basketball i knew that this guy was going to be an nba draft bust.

Rent free.

[Undrafted]

The MKG hate is strong in this one

Michael Beasley
Hasheem Thabeet
Wesley Johnson
Derrick Williams

All drafted 2nd since 2008 but you chose to hate on a 21 year old who can still improve and actually contributes :facepalm :biggums:

He is only better than Hasheem Thabeet on that list.

[Lebron23]

Hopefully Jordan draft a much better player in the 2020 nba draft.

[Lebron23]

now he is out of the nba at aged 27.