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Thorpesaurous
01-15-2015, 10:48 AM
Just copied and pasted a list.

Nominations (by movie):
Birdman – 9
The Grand Budapest Hotel – 9
The Imitation Game – 8
Boyhood – 6
American Sniper – 6
Whiplash – 5
Interstellar – 5
Foxcatcher – 5

Best Picture
“Birdman”
“Boyhood”
“Selma”
“The Theory of Everything”
“The Imitation Game”
“The Grand Budapest Hotel”
“American Sniper”
“Whiplash”

Actress in a Leading Role
Julianne Moore, “Still Alice”
Felicity Jones, “The Theory of Everything”
Rosamund Pike, “Gone Girl”
Reese Witherspoon, “Wild”
Marion Cotillard, “Two Days One Night”


Actor in a Leading Role
Michael Keaton, “Birdman”
Eddie Redmayne, “The Theory of Everything”
Benedict Cumberbatch, “The Imitation Game”
Steve Carell, “Foxcatcher”
Bradley Cooper, “American Sniper”


Directing
Alejandro Gonzalez Inarritu, “Birdman”
Richard Linklater, “Boyhood”
Wes Anderson, “The Grand Budapest Hotel”
Morten Tyldum, “The Imitation Game”
Bennett Miller, “Foxcatcher”

Actress in a Supporting Role
Patricia Arquette, “Boyhood”
Emma Stone, “Birdman”
Keira Knightley, “The Imitation Game”
Meryl Streep, “Into the Woods”
Laura Dern, “Wild”

Actor in a Supporting Role
J.K. Simmons, “Whiplash”
Edward Norton, “Birdman”
Ethan Hawke, “Boyhood”
Mark Ruffalo, “Foxcatcher”
Robert Duvall, “The Judge”


Foreign Language Film
“Ida”
“Leviathan”
“Tangerines”
“Wild Tales”
“Timbuktu”

Writing – Adapted Screenplay
Graham Moore, “The Imitation Game”
Damien Chazelle, “Whiplash”
Anthony McCarten, “The Theory of Everything”
Jason Hall, “American Sniper”
Paul Thomas Anderson, “Inherent Vice”

Writing – Original Screenplay
Richard Linklater, “Boyhood”
Alejandro Gonz

irondarts
01-15-2015, 10:56 AM
Not a ton of surprises here (except for American Sniper getting a best picture nom).

Glad that PTA got a nom for adapting Inherent Vice, not even because of the quality of the movie, but because anyone who has read that book knows how fvcking ridiculous it would be to try and adapt it into a movie.

edit: actually, how does David Oyelowo not get a Best Actor nod? That's ridiculous.

alenleomessi
01-15-2015, 11:03 AM
what a bunch of mediocre actors and no jake gyllenhaal again

T_L_P
01-15-2015, 11:15 AM
Holy shit, that's a very weak crop.

Last year's films/actors blow these ones out of the water.

BoogieWoogieMan
01-15-2015, 11:16 AM
Biggest snubs I've noticed off first glance.

NightCrawler for Best Picture
Jake Gyllenhaal for Best Actor
Lego Movie for Best Animated

BigBoss
01-15-2015, 11:17 AM
Boyhood deserves Best Picture and Best Director. Rooting for Michael Keaton to get Best Actor.

Myth
01-15-2015, 11:56 AM
I'll see Selma tonight, so I guess I'll see how big of a snub the actor got.

KevinNYC
01-15-2015, 12:04 PM
Biggest snubs I've noticed off first glance.

NightCrawler for Best Picture
Jake Gyllenhaal for Best Actor
Lego Movie for Best Animated

Nightcrawler was fun to watch but it was a very slight story. It was a character study, eccentric weird characters are fairly easy to play. I liked Jake Gyllenhall in it, but I'm not surprised it was overlooked.

Best Picture goes to the producers and as such takes the whole sweep of moviemaking into account beyond some of the obvious choices it includes things like art direction, costumes, etc, etc

Thorpesaurous
01-15-2015, 12:27 PM
Of the most nominated flicks, I've seen Birdman, Grand Budapest, Boyhood, Whiplash, and Interstellar. I'll be seeing Sniper tomorrow.

I think the biggest shock is that Budapest did so well considering the Academy really having never shown a ton of interest in Wes Anderson. Although I do think this might be his best flick (although I love Tennanbaums and Fox), and in addition it's got a lot more film history behind it and it's not quite as personal. It's got the feel of an old fashioned zany caper comedy, so it feels like a tribute. It just happens to fit perfectly with his style. Between Wes not having a ton of interst, the fact the movie came out nearly a year ago, and it being a comedy, it's nice to see it get the praise it's getting. I do wish it got an acting nod. Either Feinnes as lead or The Lobby Boy as supporting would've been cool.

On the unfortunate side is Nightcrawler, which to me could've had a nod in Direction, Cinematography, Actor, Supporting Actor, Supporting Actress, and I'dve been fine with any of them. It got a writing nod, and I actually felt the script was one of the weaker things in the film. It's mostly a sketch to follow the characters and be in this moody environment. I don't get it. I didn't think it'd win at any of those spots, but nominations I thought were reasonable at all those spots.


From what I've heard it's surprising Sniper got so much praise.


I saw only Gone Girl in the Best Actress category, and even at that expect her to win for being the lone representative of what was a moment movie of the year, that combined both critical praise and box office success.

Keaton was spectacular in Birdman. But at this point he's the only guy I've seen. Still I'd be shocked if he didn't win in part because of the nature of the role as an actor will appeal to the voters.

All of Birdman, Boyhood, and Budapest were superbly directed. The almost single take floating style of Birdman was awesome. And the precision of Budapest, although all Anderson's movies have that. And Boyhood just does something no one's ever done. I also loved the direction in Whiplash. I loved that movie in general. But the rhythmic feel of the music scenes was gorgeous stuff.

Supporting actress feels like a lock for Arquette, although I loved Emma Stone.

Supporting actor seems like the strongest category. In most years Simmons, Norton, or Hawke would be locks for what they did. And from everything I heard Ruffalo was incredible even if he was understated as the third part of Foxcatcher. Hawke probably suffers from not having as much to chew on as Arquette in his role Boyhood. Simmons is almost a lead to be honest. But this is Whiplash's best chance at something, so I'll be rooting for him.

Adapted Screenplay is a weird category to me, because unless you've read the source material, how can you really know how well it was adapted. But I've heard that Sniper is a really sort of lazy by the numbers adaptation of the book. I've also heard Vice is a mess, but that's the nature of Pynchon's work. And Whiplash is ridiculous because it counts as an adaptation because it was an adaptation of the screenplay Chazelle wrote for the short film he made on the same content, which seem retarded. That by all accounts should be original work.

Original probably goes to Linklater for having to mold his script with the growth of his actors. That movie has a few issues. But what it accomplishes to me is overrides it's flaws. Keeping a coherent script going over that time frame may have been it's biggest achievement, even if "nothing happened".

Foreign Language Films I saw none of . Although Ida is really well regarded and feels like a lock. I did see two foreign flicks I really liked this year. The Blue Room, a small thriller with a courtroom flashback set up. And Force Mejeur, about a family who goes skiing when a controlled avalanche scares them, and the father runs away like a chicken, and the whole family has to sort of get over it. That was fascinating, and really beautifully shot too. But what do I know.

Cinematogrophy I loved Birdman and Budapest.

Most of the technical and visual and sound stuff I'm pretty comfortable with Interstellar with. It did pay off in that regard. Score I really liked the two movies I saw, Birdman and Budapest. I'm surprised Whiplash didn't get any sound noms.

I've been dieing to see CitizenFour from the doc section. I'm pretty sure I saw Muscle Shoals this year and enjoyed the hell out of that on the doc front.

DonDadda59
01-15-2015, 01:34 PM
Haven't seen Selma yet so I can't say whether or not Oyelowo was snubbed, but the general word is his work was at least nomination worthy. Gylenhaal not getting nominated is surprising but I'm shocked Jennifer Anniston was snubbed for 'Cake'. She was brilliant in that film. Guess this means Julianne Moore will get her first Oscar.

I think Boyhood will win best picture while Birdman wins best director and best actor (Keaton). The supporting nods are the toughest to call IMO. I think it'll be down to Hawke or Simmons for Men and Arquette on the Women's side. Still need to see about 3 films on that list before I can make final judgments.

Yoda
01-15-2015, 04:17 PM
Best supporting actor, Ruffalo and Norton should split. Best, men who have been green are.

Dresta
01-15-2015, 04:28 PM
Holy shit, that's a very weak crop.

Last year's films/actors blow these ones out of the water.
Not really.

For me, Birdman is a better film than any of last year's nominations.

KingBeasley08
01-15-2015, 04:35 PM
Not bad, a lot of the usual overrated Oscar bait films but Birdman, Boyhood, The Grand Budapest Hotel is a great top 3. Who thought Richard Linklater and Wes fcking Anderson would be duking it out for Best Picture/Director?

SugarHill
01-15-2015, 04:36 PM
Not really.

For me, Birdman is a better film than any of last year's nominations.
The films look better to me as well

Thorpesaurous
01-15-2015, 05:07 PM
I liked Gravity, Wolf, and American Hustle more than most. I think Birdman, Budapest, and Boyhood are a comparable trio. All of those six movies have flaws. And I probably gun to my head would say Birdman is the best of the six.

I don't think either crop is great, but both are good.

dazzer87
01-15-2015, 05:58 PM
Al Sharpton needs to get a real job......:facepalm

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/al-sharpton-calls-emergency-meeting-210136185.html

andgar923
01-15-2015, 06:29 PM
am I the only one who doesn't like Wes Anderson and his hipster shit? :confusedshrug:

IamRAMBO24
01-15-2015, 06:42 PM
am I the only one who doesn't like Wes Anderson and his hipster shit? :confusedshrug:

The grand budapest is stupid.

andgar923
01-15-2015, 06:50 PM
The grand budabpest is stupid.
I sorta liked Rushmore. I wanted to like Bottle Rocket, but was just meh.

Lebron23
01-15-2015, 07:47 PM
Where's Jake Gyllenhaal??

Cowboy Thunder
01-16-2015, 12:35 AM
Budapest was awful.


Interstellar getting no love. Dumb.

Myth
01-16-2015, 12:39 AM
Just saw Selma. I would be completed shocked if Bradley Cooper actually does a better job.

KevinNYC
01-16-2015, 12:46 AM
Just saw Selma. I would be completed shocked if Bradley Cooper actually does a better job.
I just heard someone say that there was some issue with the promotional screeners for Selma. That they went out late or something.

Qwyjibo
01-16-2015, 01:30 AM
am I the only one who doesn't like Wes Anderson and his hipster shit? :confusedshrug:
He's all over the map for me. I really liked Rushmore and The Royal Tenenbaums. Darjeeling Limited and Moonrise Kingdom were "meh". The Life Aquatic was awful. I rarely enjoy the characters that he writes.

Thorpesaurous
01-16-2015, 08:33 AM
He's all over the map for me. I really liked Rushmore and The Royal Tenenbaums. Darjeeling Limited and Moonrise Kingdom were "meh". The Life Aquatic was awful. I rarely enjoy the characters that he writes.


This is about where I'm at. I liked Rushmore, and wound up liking Tenenbaums even more. I liked Aquatic at the time, but in retrospect there's just parts of it I like, mostly the set piece of the boat, and Sue Jorge playing David Bowie acoustic in Portuguese. I really disliked Darjeeling, and Moonrise meh is the same word I'd use. Fantastic Mr. Fox is my favorite thing he's done. But I did feel like Budapest was sort of the best application of his style.

Thorpesaurous
01-16-2015, 08:35 AM
I just heard someone say that there was some issue with the promotional screeners for Selma. That they went out late or something.


I've been reading that for a week or so. That they really screwed up the campaign, and getting the screeners out late was a big part of that. That and an apparent backlash against some historical inaccuracies.

They Won
01-16-2015, 11:23 AM
I just heard someone say that there was some issue with the promotional screeners for Selma. That they went out late or something.

If that is the case, then how did it still get nominated for best picture?

Nastradamus
01-16-2015, 12:14 PM
Kind of a weak year. No Coens,Scorcese or Tarantino. PTA and Nolan both put out solid films but ones that aren't quite best picture worthy.

I hate when films like Selma get nominated due to sentiment. Important film with an important story, but not a great achievement artistically by any means.

Boyhood will get best director, maybe best film. Sniper and Birdman will give it a run there.

Best actor is Cooper's, but all candidates are viable and nothing would surprise me.

I think Reese gets best actress, but none of these performances would win in a strong year.

Arquette and Simmons will take supporting actor/actress pretty easy

SexSymbol
01-16-2015, 12:23 PM
The Grand Budapest Hotel is one of the best movies in the past five years, I hope it gets best picture nod, as Interstellar was hilariously snubbed

KevinNYC
01-16-2015, 12:31 PM
Kind of a weak year. No Coens,Scorcese or Tarantino. PTA and Nolan both put out solid films but ones that aren't quite best picture worthy.

I hate when films like Selma get nominated due to sentiment. Important film with an important story, but not a great achievement artistically by any means.

Boyhood will get best director, maybe best film. Sniper and Birdman will give it a run there.

Best actor is Cooper's, but all candidates are viable and nothing would surprise me.

I think Reese gets best actress, but none of these performances would win in a strong year.

Arquette and Simmons will take supporting actor/actress pretty easy

Have you seen all these films?

I haven't seen Sniper, but I would be surprised if Michael Keaton didn't win. Great performance and good comeback story.

Also when do you think the backlash against Sniper begins? I would say by first week of February everyone will be hearing about what a liar the real guy was. Since American Sniper deals with the guy not just at war but also stateside I was wondering how they handled it, according to Slate they just avoided that part of the guy's character.

But when critics catch a film in a lie, we have to ask it, “Why?” That’s what matters. Take American Sniper, one of the most mendacious movies of 2014. Clint Eastwood was caught in a trap: His subject, murdered Navy SEAL Chris Kyle, lied a lot. In his autobiography, he said he killed two carjackers in Texas, sniped looters during Hurricane Katrina, and punched Jesse Ventura in the face. None of that was true. So Eastwood was stuck. Should he repeat Kyle’s lies as truth? Expose him as a liar? Instead, he pretended Kyle never claimed any of it, but when a film erases the fact that its subject was a fabricator, then that itself is a lie.

Here's the backstory to the stories Chris Kyle told. (http://mpmacting.com/blog/2014/7/19/truth-justice-and-the-curious-case-of-chris-kyle)


Chris told many people, and some reporters, that just after his return from Iraq in 2009, he was carjacked by two men at a gas station on a remote Texas highway. Chris asked the men if he could reach into his truck to get his keys, and as he did he pulled a pistol from his waistband and shot both men in the chest from under his armpit. The two men were killed instantly. Chris called the police and waited for them while leaning against his truck. The police came, Chris handed them a phone number to call at the Pentagon. The cops called the number, and the people at the Pentagon told the cops that Chris Kyle was a war hero and a Navy SEAL. The police also went inside and watched the gas station surveillance video of the incident. The cops then let Chris go on his way. Chris claimed he got emails from cops all across the country after the incident thanking him for "keeping the streets clean". Great story. Except none of it is true. Not a word. There were no carjackers, no dead bodies, no cops, none of it. He made the whole thing up. His big mistake was then telling the story to his SEAL friend, Marcus Lutrell, author of Lone Survivor, and Marcus put the story in his second book, Service: A Navy SEAL at Work. Now it wasn't just a tall-tale, it was in the public record, and it is demonstrably a lie. The New Yorker magazine and other journalists have investigated the story. They all come to the same conclusion. There were no carjackers. There were no dead bodies. There were no cops. None of it happened. No police departments know anything about it, no coroner ever saw the bodies, no gas station had any surveillance video or ever heard of such a thing and no cops ever responded to the scene and called the Pentagon.

The second story that was told by Chris Kyle was that he and another SEAL were sent by the government to New Orleans in the aftermath of hurricane Katrina. Once they got to New Orleans, Chris and another sniper went to the roof of the Superdome, and started shooting looters in the city. Chris Kyle said this to many people, he also said this on tape. Chris claims to have killed thirty looters all on his own. Helluva story. Only problem is…there's not a speck of truth in it. Once again this is a total fabrication, or to put it less delicately, a complete, bold faced lie. Chris Kyle never went to New Orleans after Katrina. He never shot 'looters'. Just like with the carjackers, there are no bodies and no documentary or corroborating evidence it occurred. None. Chris Kyle lied. Again.

Thorpesaurous
01-16-2015, 01:14 PM
Have you seen all these films?

I haven't seen Sniper, but I would be surprised if Michael Keaton didn't win. Great performance and good comeback story.

Also when do you think the backlash against Sniper begins? I would say by first week of February everyone will be hearing about what a liar the real guy was. Since American Sniper deals with the guy not just at war but also stateside I was wondering how they handled it, according to Slate they just avoided that part of the guy's character.


Here's the backstory to the stories Chris Kyle told. (http://mpmacting.com/blog/2014/7/19/truth-justice-and-the-curious-case-of-chris-kyle)

I'm going to see Sniper tonight, but based on everything I've read it sounds like they could've just fictionalized the story and made it a generic soldier sniper thing. They've gutted the source material and overall the film is good but somewhat bland. There was a ton of surprise that it was as well received as it was, and it wasn't nearly as well received in the lead up events, and there's a sense that Eastwood, it's profitability, and it's subject matter appealed to the larger group of old timer'y segment of the Oscar voting pool, which while shrinking, still makes up a good segment.

Practice?
01-16-2015, 01:20 PM
PTA and Nolan both put out solid films

What movie did Nolan put out besides Interstellar?

KevinNYC
01-16-2015, 01:26 PM
I'm going to see Sniper tonight, but based on everything I've read it sounds like they could've just fictionalized the story and made it a generic soldier sniper thing. They've gutted the source material and overall the film is good but somewhat bland. There was a ton of surprise that it was as well received as it was, and it wasn't nearly as well received in the lead up events, and there's a sense that Eastwood, it's profitability, and it's subject matter appealed to the larger group of old timer'y segment of the Oscar voting pool, which while shrinking, still makes up a good segment.
I think it's benefitting from the fact they select more nominations these days.

It's at 74% at Rotten Tomatoes. Wonder if it's so low for the reasons I mentioned.

KevinNYC
01-16-2015, 01:37 PM
This is surprising.
The highest-grossing Best Picture nominee this year is The Grand Budapest Hotel, which is writer/director Wes Anderson's biggest movie ever with $59.1 million

Thorpesaurous
01-16-2015, 01:50 PM
This is surprising.


That's a little misleading because it's been out for almost a year while American Sniper has been on four screens for three weeks.

chazzy
01-16-2015, 03:21 PM
Really surprised Sniper is getting a best picture nomination. It was good but nothing amazing. Despite their flaws, I was much more impressed by Interstellar and Gone Girl.

SexSymbol
01-16-2015, 06:01 PM
Really surprised Sniper is getting a best picture nomination. It was good but nothing amazing. Despite their flaws, I was much more impressed by Interstellar and Gone Girl.
Neither really have any flaws.
Those two and grand budapest hotel are perfect films this year
Interstellar is criticized in the weakest way possible with trying to find flaws where there aren't any because everybody who wants Nolan to fail just can't fathom the fact that he hasn't had a bad movie. Ever.
And Gone Girl gets criticized only because people still can't accept that Ben Affleck is a great actor and overall a great cinematic mind

KyrieTheFuture
01-16-2015, 07:11 PM
Neither really have any flaws.
Those two and grand budapest hotel are perfect films this year
Interstellar is criticized in the weakest way possible with trying to find flaws where there aren't any because everybody who wants Nolan to fail just can't fathom the fact that he hasn't had a bad movie. Ever.
And Gone Girl gets criticized only because people still can't accept that Ben Affleck is a great actor and overall a great cinematic mind
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

SexSymbol
01-16-2015, 07:13 PM
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
that's just the truth

BoogieWoogieMan
01-16-2015, 11:07 PM
This is surprising.

It's number 53rd from the list to boot!

Thorpesaurous
01-17-2015, 10:47 AM
After seeing American Sniper, with 8 best pic noms, I can live with it being there. I'dve preferred something a little more adventurous even if it were flawed, like either Gone Girl or Interstellar, which I still can't coherently express my feelings about. But I'm fine with it.

And Cooper was good enough to warrant a best actor nom, even though the role was pretty thin. He did really good work with the intensity and the PTSD stuff. But it wasn't a great role. There's wasn't a ton to work with. I'dve preferred Gyllenhaal from Nightcrawler, but Cooper is defendable.

I don't understand the Adapted Screenplay nom at all. The characters are all pretty one note, even with as good as Cooper handles it. The movie works based on some really well done action sets and good pacing. But the emotional stuff is flat, in part because the characters are a bit flat, and there's just not much screenplay there. And if you're throwing in the element of adapting from existing material, most of what I've read in excerpts from the book aren't even in the movie. They stripped the book for the most straightline narrative they could get out of it. And left out a lot of the anecdotal stuff of questionable veracity that gave the book it's pep from what I understand.

ArbitraryWater
01-17-2015, 10:58 AM
weak year for leading actors

Where is Jake Gyllenhaal


Neither really have any flaws.
Those two and grand budapest hotel are perfect films this year
Interstellar is criticized in the weakest way possible with trying to find flaws where there aren't any because everybody who wants Nolan to fail just can't fathom the fact that he hasn't had a bad movie. Ever.
And Gone Girl gets criticized only because people still can't accept that Ben Affleck is a great actor and overall a great cinematic mind

Everything you say, NBA related or not... :facepalm

SexSymbol
01-17-2015, 12:07 PM
weak year for leading actors

Where is Jake Gyllenhaal



Everything you say, NBA related or not... :facepalm
So once again you can't refute any argument or point out flaws with either of the films that are somewhat major.
You just suck, 40+ posts per day

KingBeasley08
01-17-2015, 05:55 PM
This is surprising.
Well, American Sniper is about to pass this in its opening weekend

L.Kizzle
01-17-2015, 07:34 PM
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bballnoob1192
01-17-2015, 08:32 PM
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honestly age is a bigger indicator than color if you wanna go down that route. i think something like 90% or more of them are also 65 and older. That's just a whole set of different values and taste. I think bigger taste difference than white vs. color argument.

They Won
01-18-2015, 09:16 PM
honestly age is a bigger indicator than color if you wanna go down that route. i think something like 90% or more of them are also 65 and older. That's just a whole set of different values and taste. I think bigger taste difference than white vs. color argument.

Too be fair, I don't want the Academy Awards to end up looking like the Teens Choice awards either.

christian1923
01-18-2015, 11:14 PM
How was American Sniper?

That movie has the greatest commercials ever