What rookies in the class of 2014 are doing something?

[GOBB]

Besides Wiggins of course.

[ralph_i_el]

Mirotic and Nurkic

[kshutts1]

KJ McDaniels, also,

Technicall Noel, as he didn't play last year.

Also, Payton has been solid, particularly lately.

[Fudge]

Nurkic is a beast.

Payton's been pretty good the past few games.

Wiggins is the clear cut best player in the draft.

McDaniels shows potential to be a great all-around player.

To be fair though, a lot of the players taken in the top 10 have gotten significant injuries.

[TaLvsCuaL]

Tarik Black is rookie? He did a good job with Houston when Howard was injured

[GOBB]

Without question this class has been hit with the injury bug. But what about guys who just havent been playing? James young, Gary Harris, Early etc

[hawksdogsbraves]

Noah Vonleh and Adreian Payne have barely even seen the court

[GOBB]

Noah Vonleh and Adreian Payne have barely even seen the court

Yup two other guys I forgot to mention. What gives? Heck I loved Payne in college.

[kurple]

Without question this class has been hit with the injury bug. But what about guys who just havent been playing? James young, Gary Harris, Early etc
Gary Harris will get his time once AA is moved

[StephHamann]

Marcus Smart could be a solid starter, at least something :lol

[Done_And_Done]

Marcus Smart could be a solid starter, at least something :lol

If it's at the one spot, I don't see it. I'm not ready to write him off just yet because that would be incredibly foolish, but my guess is that he winds up being a middle of the pac, hot and cold, offensive guy.

[outbreak]

elfrid payton has been solid for a rookie point guard.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Rookies rarely "do something" their first year. I can probably count on my hands the amount of rookies in the past 10 years that were truly plus players.

[GOBB]

Rookies rarely "do something" their first year. I can probably count on my hands the amount of rookies in the past 10 years that were truly plus players.

:coleman:

2014 class was rated with 2003, 96 and billed as the deepest its been in years. It was at a point where teams didn't even want to trade their first rd picks in this class. Teams valued them highly. And the ROY race involves two guys who werent apart of the class of 2014. Noel/Mirotic and a 2nd rounder KJ McDaniels.

[outbreak]

:coleman:

2014 class was rated with 2003, 96 and billed as the deepest its been in years. It was at a point where teams didn't even want to trade their first rd picks in this class. Teams valued them highly. And the ROY race involves two guys who werent apart of the class of 2014. Noel/Mirotic and a 2nd rounder KJ McDaniels.

And you are going to judge how deep a draft was mid way through the first season? You only expect a hand ful of players to contribute first year, a drafts depth will show in 5 years when you realise a bunch of guys still in the league came from the same class.

[hawksdogsbraves]

Yup two other guys I forgot to mention. What gives? Heck I loved Payne in college.

Idk, he's been in the D-League for the vast majority of the season. I guess he's having a hard time learning the offense or something :confusedshrug:

[GOBB]

And you are going to judge how deep a draft was mid way through the first season? You only expect a hand ful of players to contribute first year, a drafts depth will show in 5 years when you realise a bunch of guys still in the league came from the same class.

I really have zero idea what you're even saying here. But i'm sure you made a real good point somewhere in there. Any chance you can make a second attempt to see if I get what you're trying to say?

[Kblaze8855]

I was high on Mcdaniels coming out but mostly because he played near here so he had a lot of fans making a big deal of him. I wanted the Bulls to find a way to pick him up.

[outbreak]

I really have zero idea what you're even saying here. But i'm sure you made a real good point somewhere in there. Any chance you can make a second attempt to see if I get what you're trying to say?

I really have no idea how you don't understand my post to be honest but I'll summarise it for you.

-You are judging the 2014 draft as not living up to it's hype far too early

-A classes depth doesn't show immediately, only a handful of rookies will contribute right away, look at the league in 5 years time and then judge how deep the draft was

-A deep draft has more to do with producing a lot of players who have solid long careers not just producing stars at every position

[poido123]

There's no doubt that Mirotic has shown he will be a great player for the Bulls in future years.


Has already put up 2x 20/10 games this year and shown an array of skills.

[masonanddixon]

There's no doubt that Mirotic has shown he will be a great player for the Bulls in future years.


Has already put up 2x 20/10 games this year and shown an array of skills.

Yeah he's pretty clearly been the best rookie so far. Jalen Rose said the same thing pretty succinctly.

[poido123]

Yeah he's pretty clearly been the best rookie so far. Jalen Rose said the same thing pretty succinctly.


I also like Nurkic, Noel and Wiggins this year.

All three guys are playing well. Nurkic has that badass toughness and confidence which you need in the NBA.

[GOBB]

I really have no idea how you don't understand my post to be honest but I'll summarise it for you.

-You are judging the 2014 draft as not living up to it's hype far too early

-A classes depth doesn't show immediately, only a handful of rookies will contribute right away, look at the league in 5 years time and then judge how deep the draft was

-A deep draft has more to do with producing a lot of players who have solid long careers not just producing stars at every position

I'm not questioning how deep this class is. Or saying it didnt live up to the hype. With any draft in sports, time will tell. All I'm saying is right now, there are alot of first rd picks that havent done much of anything. Hence the title header asker what rookies are doing something? And so far, not many beside a rookie from other draft classes like Mirotic or kid from Denver whom many had no clue about probably. Shit I didnt.

If I asked you to list the ROY race, it'll probably feature two guys from another draft class, one second rounder, one guy few had reports on.

Exum? Vonleh? Stauskas? Smart? J.Young? G.Harris? R.Hood? A.Payne (college senior). Nuggets fan explained Harris situation to me already. Stauskas is probably the same deal with Ben getting a ton of mins/producing unlike rookie season.

I'm not really making a premature judgement just asking with all the hype of this class being deep, rich in talent. What are some of these guys doing and why? NYK tanking and Melo out, is Early even getting burn?

I just think your post really isnt touching on what my thread is about. To simply say all rookies dont do something so who cares, no biggie? Eh, this class isnt like most classes is all.

[GOBB]

No hate on Mirotic but he was drafted in 2011. He's a "rookie" by definition but not so much apart of the class of 2014.

[GOBB]

I was high on Mcdaniels coming out but mostly because he played near here so he had a lot of fans making a big deal of him. I wanted the Bulls to find a way to pick him up.

Dude is a great shot blocker. Outside of that I cant say what else he is right now, kinda like a poor man's Iggy. I like his athletic ability and defense tho.

[poido123]

No hate on Mirotic but he was drafted in 2011. He's a "rookie" by definition but not so much apart of the class of 2014.


Do you draw the same technicality on Noel too?


After all, he should be a rookie last year and has had the benefit of developing with the team earlier than the current rookies.

[GOBB]

Do you draw the same technicality on Noel too?


After all, he should be a rookie last year and has had the benefit of developing with the team earlier than the current rookies.

Yes I do actually. I have no issue with either drawing ROY praise. I'm just saying the fact we are even mentioning them and not the class of 2014 rookies is funny. No issues with how Mirotic has been performing.

[poido123]

Yes I do actually. I have no issue with either drawing ROY praise. I'm just saying the fact we are even mentioning them and not the class of 2014 rookies is funny. No issues with how Mirotic has been performing.



:cheers:

Out of the true rookies, I've been most impressed with Nurkic. The guy hasn't received all the hype of a Wiggins, yet he is showing everybody that he belongs and his hustle and bustle is paying off on this team.

Love his swagger too.

[GOBB]

:cheers:

Out of the true rookies, I've been most impressed with Nurkic. The guy hasn't received all the hype of a Wiggins, yet he is showing everybody that he belongs and his hustle and bustle is paying off on this team.

Love his swagger too.

Honestly haven't watched him this season. I've seen his name too many times this week. I'll be tuning in to Denver games from now on to get a look. You have me intrigued about him already.

[AI09]

A breakdown of some.of the key players in ther 2014 draft

Wiggens really started picking it up since the end of December hers avg 21 ppg in his last 10 and plays great D
Parker might of won rookie of the year if he didn't get injured played great ball and showed alot of promise
Nurkic has had some monster games and with the trade that sent Mozgov to Cleveland it opens up even more playing time just need so stay out of foul trouble I like the fact that he plays tough and doesn't back down you don't see that in alot of European bigmen. Could possibly finish first in ROY but it might be to late for that.
KJ McDaniels is gonna make sam Hinkie regret not giving him a guaranteed contract in the off season teams will throw money his way and will probably get paid like a 1rst overall pick. Great defense and brings people out of there seats with his athleticism whether it's running the brake and dunking or swatting shots. Also a better 3 point shooter than we could've hoped for at this stage of his young career.
Embiid and Randle although injured I expect the both of them to be great players with long NBA careers.
Elfrid Payton looks great early on plays defence and passes the ball well he should be a great backcourt mate for Olidipo for years to come.
Doug Mcbuckets has a nba game and could be a solid player for years to come but Mirotic is eating up his minutes
TJ Warren hasn't got any burn but I feel like if he was on philly he would be in the top 3 in rookie voting dude is really that good.
Aaron Gordan has potential I just think he needs some more experience he is one of the youngest players might even be the youngest I'm not 100% sure. If your not gonna play him send him to the d league
Zach LaVine had some great games and highlight plays but to inconsistent but athletic as hell like gordan needs more experience.
Kostas Papnikolaou had to copy and paste his name lol but he looks like a solid all around player a good glue guy that will always have a spot in the NBA as long as he keeps up his work ethic.
Rodney Hood good three point shooter just needs to stay healthy but I can honestly say he belongs here.
Tarik Black solid big probably not a starter but he's been taking minutes away from jordan hill even before the injury.
Marcus Smart brings it defensively but is to inconsistent offensively. Is he a pg or a sg? Only time will tell
Noah Vonleh I had big hopes for this guy I haven't watched much Hornets basketball so maybe someone can fill me in on him.
Staukas is on the trade block already to be fair he hasn't received much of an opportunity but I feel like he will have a career more like Jimmer than let's say Reddick
Saric still not in the nba but he is part of this draft class. In a couple of years I feel like he will be brought up in rookie of the year talks like Mirotic this year. Just named the youngest euro league player of the month and has great skills at a young age only time will tell with him
Dante Exum could very well end up being a bust he's been getting the playing time but hasn't shown much of anything he's still to young and could turn it around but I'm not sold on him

[poido123]

Honestly haven't watched him this season. I've seen his name too many times this week. I'll be tuning in to Denver games from now on to get a look. You have me intrigued about him already.


I liked his rim protection instincts in this one, bearing in mind these are highlights:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QcpvoF3LnY

This one he shows his back down post game, with an effective yet somewhat ugly hook shot :lol He just competes so well at the little things:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdJLdgZpD_8


Anyways, hope that gives you a small idea. He's got a long future in the NBA.

I expect nothing short of a double double machine from hereonin.

[hawkfan]

Besides Wiggins of course.

Parker looked promising before he got hurt.

[AI09]

Nurkic only played 20+ minutes 7 times this year and that's the last 7 games he's played in those games he's been avg
11.7 ppg 7.8 rpg 1.2 sgp 3 bpg in 22.9 mpg right around 45 field goal percentage

[GOBB]

I liked his rim protection instincts in this one, bearing in mind these are highlights:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QcpvoF3LnY

This one he shows his back down post game, with an effective yet somewhat ugly hook shot :lol He just competes so well at the little things:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdJLdgZpD_8


Anyways, hope that gives you a small idea. He's got a long future in the NBA.

I expect nothing short of a double double machine from hereonin.

:roll: talkin smack to gasol. I love it.

[outbreak]

Payton with 22pts 12ast and a couple of steals today was looking good. Most of his points in the fourth too.