Remember when Houston made a mistake and let Parsons go

[UK2K]

Houston traded Lin and Asik and let Parsons go in FA, and this board was laughing. Remember the predictions? 7th seed in the west, 8th seed in the west, a few on here even predicted Houston to miss the playoffs. Remember when Morey was the biggest loser ever and got out GM'ed by the Mavs, and he signed his own termination papers when he tried to replace Parsons/Asik/Lin with Ariza?

2014-15
28-12 .700

2013-14
54-28 .659

[Milbuck]

They did **** up. Badly. There's zero doubt about it. Parsons and Asik are quality players.

But you can't blame us for not expecting James Harden to turn into the greatest player of all time in just one offseason.

[UK2K]

They did **** up. Badly. There's zero doubt about it. Parsons and Asik are quality players.

But you can't blame us for not expecting James Harden to turn into the greatest player of all time in just one offseason.
I read good things from the reports during the Team USA camps. I think mixing with the likes of Durant and Paul George made him realize you can't be a superstar and only play one side of the ball.

[YouGotServed]

B..bu...but Morey is too smart for his own good! Where the naysayers at?

*crickets*

:sleeping

[Spurs5Rings2014]

They did **** up. Badly. There's zero doubt about it. Parsons and Asik are quality players.

They couldn't afford all of those players.

:no:

[Mr Exlax]

Damn we're doing really good for a team that's supposed to miss the playoffs according to ISH.

[russwest0]

B..bu...but Morey is too smart for his own good! Where the naysayers at?

*crickets*

:sleeping

In the second round of the playoffs

[Eric Cartman]

Nikka **** we didn't know Harden was gonna play top defense with ELITE offense.

Hindsight is a bitch *****.

[imnew09]

Ariza is a way better player than Parson. Parson has no game and is overpaid :facepalm

Let's also not exclude that D mo and Beverley are playing great as well

[oarabbus]

I didn't think the Rockets would be THIS good but I was in the minority of non-Rockets fans who steadfastly believed they'd make Playoffs

[Ariza4three]

Ariza is more important for them right now. His shot has fallen off a cliff but his perimeter defense is awesome. Gets a lot of steals in the halfcourt too.

[icewill36]

Ariza is a way better player than Parson. Parson has no game and is overpaid :facepalm

Let's also not exclude that D mo and Beverley are playing great as well

ariza has sucked this year. if he can't start shooting the way he did last year the rockets will struggle in the post season again. the teams offense depends way too much on harden right now.

[YouGotServed]

In the second round of the playoffs

OKC might not even make the playoffs. You madd, boy? :lol

[Smoke117]

Funnier how about half this board had the Rockets not even making the playoffs before the season started.

[Ariza4three]

ariza has sucked this year. if he can't start shooting the way he did last year the rockets will struggle in the post season again. the teams offense depends way too much on harden right now.
Ariza's shooting is off I agree, but his defense is so important to this team. He really sets the tone. He needs to start hitting 3s tho

[oarabbus]

In the second round of the playoffs


Are the thunder over .500? I haven't checked the standings recently, someone please fill me in.

[UK2K]

Ariza's shooting is off I agree, but his defense is so important to this team. He really sets the tone. He needs to start hitting 3s tho
In the last four games, Ariza is shooting 60% from the floor, 60% from deep, and averaging 2 steals per game.

[Done_And_Done]

They did **** up. Badly. There's zero doubt about it. Parsons and Asik are quality players.

But you can't blame us for not expecting James Harden to turn into the greatest player of all time in just one offseason.


That Avy lololol

You turning a new leaf Buck? Did the beard finally win you over? I don't buy it. Who did you lose a bet with?

[imnew09]

ariza has sucked this year. if he can't start shooting the way he did last year the rockets will struggle in the post season again. the teams offense depends way too much on harden right now.


you trippin'. Only look at the scoreboard hoe. Im done talkin to you

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

For the current Rox team, Ariza>Parsons and it's not even close.

[Rose'sACL]

Parsons got overpaid. even if dallas somehow do better in playoffs than rockets, parsons would still be overpaid. He is not some great defensive stopper that he should get that money.

[Milbuck]

That Avy lololol

You turning a new leaf Buck? Did the beard finally win you over? I don't buy it. Who did you lose a bet with?
I'm serious dude, Beard's been putting in work for my fantasy team. I'll be here during the playoffs though, I'm sure things will go back to normal real quick :oldlol:

[YouGotServed]

Funnier how about half this board had the Rockets not even making the playoffs before the season started.

Yup. :oldlol: I think OP and I are the only ones who said Houston would improve defensively and still convincingly make the playoffs. Goddamn, I'm such a ****ing basketball genius. I should be a GM.

Morey 2.0

[UK2K]

Yup. :oldlol: I think OP and I are the only ones who said Houston would improve defensively and still convincingly make the playoffs. Goddamn, I'm such a ****ing basketball genius. I should be a GM.

Morey 2.0

We absolutely called it.

I predicted them to be a 3-6 seed. I knew they would improve, just didnt think everyone else in the West would improve too.

[YouGotServed]

To be fair, it's not like we scouted and predicted some unknown 2nd rounder to blossom and become an all star.

Every one was like "you lost Lin, asik and parsons."

we like "but Lin sucks, Parsons is a no defense playing role player and Asik literally did not even play the whole season :biggums: "

Blind hatred man. It will do something to you. Houston is a better team this year thanks to Ariza's defense. Expect great things this year.

[Milbuck]

To be fair, it's not like we scouted and predicted some unknown 2nd rounder to blossom and become an all star.

Every one was like "you lost Lin, asik and parsons."

we like "but Lin sucks, Parsons is a no defense playing role player and Asik literally did not even play the whole season :biggums: "

Blind hatred man. It will do something to you. Houston is a better team this year thanks to Ariza's defense. Expect great things this year.
http://gifsoup.com/view2/1892029/church-baby-o.gif

[oarabbus]

Parsons got overpaid. even if dallas somehow do better in playoffs than rockets, parsons would still be overpaid. He is not some great defensive stopper that he should get that money.


If Parsons looked like Chris Kaman he wouldn't have gotten that contract

[Smoke117]

Yup. :oldlol: I think OP and I are the only ones who said Houston would improve defensively and still convincingly make the playoffs. Goddamn, I'm such a ****ing basketball genius. I should be a GM.

Morey 2.0

o.O I was one of the people saying the whole time Houston would be fine and comfortably get in the playoffs.

[Milbuck]

o.O I was one of the people saying the whole time Houston would be fine and comfortably get in the playoffs.
No one gives a shit about what you have to say, boy. Get out of my thread.

[UK2K]

To be fair, it's not like we scouted and predicted some unknown 2nd rounder to blossom and become an all star.

Every one was like "you lost Lin, asik and parsons."

we like "but Lin sucks, Parsons is a no defense playing role player and Asik literally did not even play the whole season :biggums: "

Blind hatred man. It will do something to you. Houston is a better team this year thanks to Ariza's defense. Expect great things this year.

Like I said earlier, the reports out of the Team USA camp was that Harden had committed to playing defense. I also liked that Harden would play 1v1v1 with Durant and George after practices.

I think George going down and Durant backing out may have been the best thing to ever happen to him. This board said Team USA was destined to fail with Harden leading them.

Glad he grew up. Welcome to the Big Time. :bowdown:

[StephHamann]

To be fair, it's not like we scouted and predicted some unknown 2nd rounder to blossom and become an all star.

Every one was like "you lost Lin, asik and parsons."

we like "but Lin sucks, Parsons is a no defense playing role player and Asik literally did not even play the whole season :biggums: "

Blind hatred man. It will do something to you. Houston is a better team this year thanks to Ariza's defense. Expect great things this year.

Think about that: Harden raised his game to the next MVP-tpye level and they are still only 3-6 seed like last year.

[Mr Exlax]

Think about that: Harden raised his game to the next MVP-tpye level and they are still only 3-6 seed like last year.

We have had more injuries to key players than we did last year.

[StephHamann]

We have had more injuries to key players than we did last year.

But the record without Dwight was as good as with him now, (correct me if im wrong, i'm not sure and to lazy to look it uo)

[dunksby]

Last time I checked Houston still retained Harden and D12, the questions around the Rockets are mostly about their postseason delivery not delivering a playoff spot.

[UK2K]

But the record without Dwight was as good as with him now, (correct me if im wrong, i'm not sure and to lazy to look it uo)
Houston had like only three first round picks on the active roster for several weeks.

[andremiller07]

I thought the Rockets would miss his play making and in games like today against the Warriors they sort of somewhat do. They still only got 1 legit playmaker in Harden (who is elite) but Josh Smith is way to iffy as a play maker.

But yeah he's not worth what the Mavericks gave to him still would have been a nice fit on the Rockets if he was willing to accept less money.

[bigt]

I'll be honest I was one of those guys who didn't think the Rockets would make the playoffs. They've proven me wrong, and Harden has really stepped up his game through this season and he should be commended for that. Glad for Rockets fans that they're doing well, and hope Harden keeps this improvement going once they hit playoffs. I may not be a fan of his but the more top tier talent being top tier talent in the post season, the better it is for the league

[Mrofir]

I'm sorry, am I missing the x next to Houston Rockets in the nba standings?


Let's wait until the end of the season.

One legitimate playoff team from the west will not make the playoffs. It's probably going to be the Suns, but literally nobody is safely in right now.


Since starting 19-5, the Rockets are 9-8.

I'm not saying the Rockets won't make the playoffs, but they are 1 game ahead of the 6th seed, and 3 games out of the 7th seed.

I said they'd finish 7th and I'm comfortable with that.

[UK2K]

I'm sorry, am I missing the x next to Houston Rockets in the nba standings?


Let's wait until the end of the season.

One legitimate playoff team from the west will not make the playoffs. It's probably going to be the Suns, but literally nobody is safely in right now.


Since starting 19-5, the Rockets are 9-8.

I'm not saying the Rockets won't make the playoffs, but they are 1 game ahead of the 6th seed, and 3 games out of the 7th seed.

I said they'd finish 7th and I'm comfortable with that.
You mean since they added three new rotational players and had two more back from injury?

I think they'll be fine. You would think after seeing Lebrons first year in Miami, Lebrons first year in Cleveland, Dwight's first year in LA, and Dwight's first year in Houston, people would understand that chemistry and familiarity is more important in basketball than almost any other sport.

[Mrofir]

You mean since they added three new rotational players and had two more back from injury?

I think they'll be fine. You would think after seeing Lebrons first year in Miami, Lebrons first year in Cleveland, Dwight's first year in LA, and Dwight's first year in Houston, people would understand that chemistry and familiarity is more important in basketball than almost any other sport.


My position has nothing to do with understanding the Houston Rockets current situation and everything to do with basic math.

There are too many good teams in the western conference. Houston has not showed themselves to clearly be head and shoulders above anyone currently in the top 7 seeds, therefor they can realistically finish anywhere in the top 7.

They are 5 1\2 games out of first place, and 3 games out of 7th, so it seems to me mathematically their chances of finishing 6-7 is greater than their chances of finishing 1-2. They'll probably stay somewhere in the middle, but if they dropped to 7th I wouldn't bat an eyelash. If they finished 1st, I'd be pretty shocked.

I'm not at all saying they're a bad team, but to predict that they would finish in the 7-8 spot wasn't such a terrible prediction, even given where we currently stand.

[WWRWestbrookDo?]

no one should take anyone seriously on here. People make predictions and switch back and forth depending on the day.

[Yao Ming's Foot]

Looks like they were spot on :confusedshrug:

http://i.imgur.com/y8xm2DO.png

[KungFuJoe]

Morey is screwing this team with all the roster changes.

He'll never understand that team chemistry is way more important than individual stats.

[MARK HENSON]

then why does Houston have a better record??????????????


ariza is more athletic!

plus has a shot at going 2 the finals this year!:coleman: :coleman:

[MiseryCityTexas]

Morey is screwing this team with all the roster changes.

He'll never understand that team chemistry is way more important than individual stats.

They used to say the same exact thing about Mark Cuban in the early to mid 2000s.

[KungFuJoe]

This team lives and dies with Harden...could be good or bad depending on how he does in the playoffs.

I like Brewer, but I thought this team played better on O with KPap getting more minutes. He didn't provide a lot of stats, but he seemed like a glue guy with high IQ especially on O. Brewer is a better defender.

I think the Smith addition is going to ultimately be a negative. I thought the rotation of Dwight, Black and DMo was working pretty well. Smith still takes bad shots...and for all the props he gets for being a good passer, he still seems to make bad decisions on offense.

Howard is one of those guys that is an enigma. You hate playing against him because he can be completely dominant at times...but when he's not playing well, he's such a negative factor. Ball stopper on O, turnover prone, and when he doesn't get touches he stops playing D.

I still think the biggest weakness on this team is the PG position. Harden is the only legit playmaker on this team. Beverley seems like he wants to score more and his defense is suffering. I think this is where Parsons is missed the most. He was a very capable playmaker who could take some of the burden off Harden at times. Ariza is definitely not this and neither is Brewer. I thought this was where KPap filled in nicely, but now he's stuck at the end of the bench.

I still think McHale is a bad coach, but I'm starting to feel sorry for him. He has to deal with a brand new team every single year.

[MiseryCityTexas]

Clutchfans claims that D-Mo is such a great power forward yet he can't even contain Draymond Green. :oldlol: :facepalm

[UK2K]

Clutchfans claims that D-Mo is such a great power forward yet he can't even contain Draymond Green. :oldlol: :facepalm

Just like Jones, he's a one way player.

Except Jones plays solid defense against other 4's his own size. Where he has trouble is guarding physical players.

[knicksman]

players like harden are easy to stop because they like to create out of nothing instead of playing off the ball. And its that reason why this team will never win anything. We have seen a bigger version of him(Lebron) being stopped in the finals, same with rose. And harden is just the same. Theres a reason why he disappears in the playoffs or against tough teams.

[YouGotServed]

I think Jones is a better rebounder but that's only because he's more athletic. He doesn't box out and his defense sucks just like D-Mo. But at least D-Mo is a good help defender unlike Jones. I would love to see Jones coming off the bench behind D-Mo or Howard.

[UK2K]

I think Jones is a better rebounder but that's only because he's more athletic. He doesn't box out and his defense sucks just like D-Mo. But at least D-Mo is a good help defender unlike Jones. I would love to see Jones coming off the bench behind D-Mo or Howard.
It'll be a brand new team when Jones comes back.

Put Smith at the 5 and Jones at the 4 and let the second unit run. I think that'd work well.