Added a few clips to the hour long Wilt Scouting Tool

[CavaliersFTW]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G94iJr8ZbzM

[LAZERUSS]

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-GFVaCgXG_NU/U1PpKX6HtSI/AAAAAAAAFEk/EOiCK21mTRg/s640/Youtubethumbnail11.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B7jVTJ_CIE)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B7jVTJ_CIE

Major section time codes are now:
* Physical Tools and Mentality intro (starts at 0:20) (http://youtu.be/_B7jVTJ_CIE?t=20s)
* Left block scoring (starts at 17:45) (http://youtu.be/_B7jVTJ_CIE?t=17m45s)
* Right block scoring (starts at 25:45) (http://youtu.be/_B7jVTJ_CIE?t=20m45s)
* Lobs - Deep catches - Transition (starts at 34:20) (http://youtu.be/_B7jVTJ_CIE?t=34m20s)
* Two Person Game (starts at 44:25) (http://youtu.be/_B7jVTJ_CIE?t=44m25s)
* Offensive Rebound scoring (starts at 50:25) (http://youtu.be/_B7jVTJ_CIE?t=50m25s)

Some new baskets and testimony came to my attention that I felt would be important additions to the project. Here they are:

5:26 new testimony from Bill Russell and 3 new blocked shot clips.

6:25 new testimony from Bill Cunningham and new blocked shot clip.

6:35 new testimony from Stan Hochman that Wilt could palm a bowling ball and 4 new clips of Wilt palming a basketball.

12:47 new clip of Wilt grabbing a defensive rebound through heavy contact and re-worked a few of the surrounding clips.

20:26 new clip of Wilt scoring a left block finger roll from the 1962 NBA Playoffs ECF against the Celtic.s

31:49 new testimony of how Wilt, Sonny Hill and Walt Frazier feel Wilt would fair in the 90's and today's NBA.

32:18 new clip of a Wilt right block finger roll over a New York Knicks player (don't blink or you'll miss it).

40:55 new Vintage news report audio of Wilt's 100 point game added and the trailing interviews have been compressed.

55:44 new clip of Wilt grabbing an offensive rebound and spinning in a fingeroll from the 1962 NBA Playoffs ECF against the Celtics.

55:51 new testimony from Earl Monroe claiming Wilt is the best center, and player to ever play the game in his opinion.

55:55 new clip of Wilt grabbing an offensive rebound and getting fouled in 1964 NBA Finals.

57:38 new clip of Wilt putback tip, followed by a putback dunk clip 1964 NBA Finals.

As well as various minor audio level and music/editing tweaks throughout the video.

I honestly believe that at some point this footage will wind up in the Basketball HOF...as it should.

And...as a side-note...I'm sure RealGM would ban any attempt to post it there...as it would make the well-known "Wilt-bashers" look like the fools who they are.

Between this and Fpliii's research on the Russell-Wilt H2H's (and yes, a big thanks needs to go out to researchers like Julizaver, Psileas, and other's)...

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1I9jddU8eNWrI8MMOPs_0l58WnjFNADvF4iIcu0Sfz7A/edit?pli=1#gid=0

We have enough "evidence" of Chamberlain's pure dominance. And it also makes Bill Simmons' "Basketball Book of Lies" look like a book that was based on research done using coloring books.

[j3lademaster]

"He once scored 90 points for me in high school in 28 minutes"

"He scored 15 in just 1 minute"

IDC if it's "just high school"... wtf would 90 in 28 and 15 in 1 even look like?

[jongib369]

Haven't seen all the changes yet but will soon. :cheers:

I was thinking about making a finger roll video in the near future, possibly including the hook since they go hand in hand. But either way I'd like to take more time on it than my crude attempts in the past... Since you literally have all of his field goals I was wondering if you could possibly give me the files of that shot somehow? I hate to sound lazy, especially since you took SO much of your time and effort hunting them down....But if I can avoid that crawl I'd be quite happy :lol

Would be open to making the video and then giving it to you for your channel once it went through your final edit. If I'm not mistaken I was your first view, so if I can help or add to it in anyway I will.

[Ariza4three]

"He once scored 90 points for me in high school in 28 minutes"

"He scored 15 in just 1 minute"

IDC if it's "just high school"... wtf would 90 in 28 and 15 in 1 even look like?
because all of that shit is made up

[jongib369]

"He once scored 90 points for me in high school in 28 minutes"

"He scored 15 in just 1 minute"

IDC if it's "just high school"... wtf would 90 in 28 and 15 in 1 even look like?
I was thinking the same thing myself. They must of not been able to get a single shot off, or even inbound with him sprinting like David Robinson down court every time. Scary thought

http://giant.gfycat.com/UnrealisticTallGeese.gif

Every racists worst nightmare come true. A gigantic, intelligent, hyper athletic black guy dominating the **** out of you and getting ALL the women. ALL


"All I can tell you is what happened on the night when we (76ers) beat the Warriors for the championship in 1967," Pollack said. "After I finished with all my duties at the game, I finally got back to our hotel in San Francisco. I was staying on the same floor as Wilt. As I got off the elevator, all I could see was the hallway filled with women -- tall ones, short ones, every color, every shape you could think of, and they were lined up outside his room and down the hall.
"I made my way through the crowd and just as I got to his room, the door opened and there was Wilt. And all I heard him say was one word: 'Next.' "
-Harvey Pollack
:pimp:

[LAZERUSS]

"He once scored 90 points for me in high school in 28 minutes"

"He scored 15 in just 1 minute"

IDC if it's "just high school"... wtf would 90 in 28 and 15 in 1 even look like?

As amazing and unbelievable as some of Wilt's statistical feats were...think about this...

Before Chamberlain's rookie season, the single season ppg record was 29.2 ppg, and the single game high was 63 points. The rpg mark was 23.0 rpg. And the single season FG% record was .490.

But let's carry it even further...

Take Wilt completely out of the equation...

Rick Barry's 35.6 ppg would have been the full season high between '60 and '73. Elgin Baylor's 71 point would have been the singe season high. And Johnny Green's .587 FG% mark in '71 would have been the record at the time.

Only Russell's 24.7 rpg and 51 rebounds in a game would have been considered monumental. And we know that Chamberlain shattered those marks, as well as crushed Russell H2H in rebounds.

Then think about this...

For all of the so-called "inflated" numbers of the 60's...and again, removing Wilt...there were a TOTAL of FIVE 60+ point games. There have been 25 since Wilt retired.

The high scoring seasons were ... 35.6 ppg, 34.8 ppg, 34.8 ppg, 34.0 ppg, 34.0 ppg, then...31.7 ppg, and 31.6 ppg. None of which would even be the record (MJ's 37.1 ppg in '87.) Oh, and Kobe averaged 35.4 ppg in an NBA that averaged 97 ppg, too.

I could list all of Chamberlain's records, and the many "runner-ups" that he had, which just BLOW AWAY those marks.

How come it was ONLY Chamberlain that was so thoroughly dominating his era?

[j3lademaster]

I was thinking the same thing myself. They must of not been able to get a single shot off, or even inbound with him sprinting like David Robinson down court every time. Scary thought Right? We've seen 13 in 35 by Tmac doing the Spurs dirty, and 8 in 8 by Reggie. But to do 15 in 1 minute being a big guy... that will look a lot more dominating.

[LAZERUSS]

because all of that shit is made up


Just like these were...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Wilt_Chamberlain


BTW, Wilt literally holds HUNDREDS, and likely THOUSANDS, of NBA RECORDS...including MANY in the POST-SEASON.

[CavaliersFTW]

I honestly believe that at some point this footage will wind up in the Basketball HOF...as it should.

And...as a side-note...I'm sure RealGM would ban any attempt to post it there...as it would make the well-known "Wilt-bashers" look like the fools who they are.

Between this and Fpliii's research on the Russell-Wilt H2H's (and yes, a big thanks needs to go out to researchers like Julizaver, Psileas, and other's)...

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1I9jddU8eNWrI8MMOPs_0l58WnjFNADvF4iIcu0Sfz7A/edit?pli=1#gid=0

We have enough "evidence" of Chamberlain's pure dominance. And it also makes Bill Simmons' "Basketball Book of Lies" look like a book that was based on research done using coloring books.
True

(50.4ppg career high, 30.1ppg career) - "fudge his minutes and fudge the pace and he only puts up demarcus cousins numbers on offense"

(50.4 on 50.6%, 24.1 on 68.3%, 13.2 on 72.7%) - "the fade away shot and finger roll are bad/inefficient shots"

:oldlol:

[LAZERUSS]

And for anyone questioning Wilt's dominance in his entire career...

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=332617

[LAZERUSS]

True

(50.4ppg career high, 30.1ppg career) - "fudge his minutes and fudge the pace and he only puts up demarcus cousins numbers on offense"

(50.4 on 50.6%, 24.1 on 68.3%, 13.2 on 72.7%) - "the fade away shot and finger roll are bad/inefficient shots"

:oldlol:

According to them, and using Fecal9's footage...Chamberlain was a lumbering 7-2 (225 lb) clod that had a 24" vertical. Fecal even included a shot in his footage of Wilt, rushing to get to the ball, and then firing a shot from about 20 feet away, that clanked off the top of the backboard. However, for some unknown reason, he failed to mention that the shot clock was about to expire. Nope, just a supposed unskilled shot-jacking Wilt.

He was a pathetic clown who, like some other's here, scattered for the hills after you started posting ACTUAL footage of Wilt's dominating scoring skills and his unfathomable physical abilities.

[LAZERUSS]

MANY interesting clips and comments.

One of the more interesting one's comes at around the 20:20 mark, when he just completely bullies a helpless Kareem. Why? Because that occurred in a game in which KAJ sucker-punched Wilt's teammate, Happy Hairston. Chamberlain chased the scared jack-rabbit Kareem to the corner, where he was safely surrounded by a team of officials. The VERY next play LA went right into Chamberlain who just pounded Kareem.

One thing is for certain...had Wilt been allowed to play like Shaq, and they would have been carrying players out in body-bags. But, the NBA was constantly putting in "anti-Wilt" rules in his career. They would never have allowed Chamberlain to make a complete mockery out of the game.

I also liked the footage of Wilt pushing Artis Gilmore out of the way like he was Chris Paul. Same with the footage of him unintentionally knocking Nate Thurmond 10 feet off the court. Or the comment about Wilt picking up Bob Lanier "like he was a cup of coffee."

This entire video is pure gold. The commentaries are just as fascinating as the footage.

[jongib369]

https://youtu.be/PrTCM1XahbA

You should make a spooky version with some of his best clips.

[CavaliersFTW]

Lol

This version you bumped is actually an older one I'll update the OP

The Nate Thurmond mix I used to have up (in process of updating it) used to have "scary"(er) tracks. It fits any of the intimidating defensive plays/players, Russell, Thurmond, Wilt, etc

[Psileas]

OP, I noticed some weeks ago that you had updated the mix, but 1+ hour is too much to search. Maybe you should also be creating/adding small "random Wilt plays #1, 2, etc" types of videos for the people who have already seen the older versions of the whole Wilt mix and just want to see the new plays.

[jongib369]

OP, I noticed some weeks ago that you had updated the mix, but 1+ hour is too much to search. Maybe you should also be creating/adding small "random Wilt plays #1, 2, etc" types of videos for the people who have already seen the older versions of the whole Wilt mix and just want to see the new plays.
Agreed. There should be clips for people to binge watch, or shorter ones showing specific moves, ir new found plays. I'd love to see a video just showcasing Wilts finger roll, possibly with the clip of bill walton talking about it. And also that dunk he had on Reed, in which Russell said he thought Reed was expecting a finger roll. Along with the clips of him doing it even quicker in his younger days

[sd3035]

Wilt scouting breakdown (bold =good)

weak, skinny, slow, gay, black, taller than everyone else

[warriorfan]

Wilt scouting breakdown (bold =good)

weak, skinny, slow, gay, black, taller than everyone else


sounds like a decent prospect

ceiling is Jason Collins?

[CavaliersFTW]

OP, I noticed some weeks ago that you had updated the mix, but 1+ hour is too much to search. Maybe you should also be creating/adding small "random Wilt plays #1, 2, etc" types of videos for the people who have already seen the older versions of the whole Wilt mix and just want to see the new plays.
If mj can get 5+hours mixes that get watched wilt can get 1+ hour mixes. Ive actually had requests to do 2+ hour version that includes passing rebounds and blocks. I do make shorter vids and have plans for vids of more isolated types of plays but the scouting vid thing is all-known baskets and I'll keep periodically updating as I feel I need. If people only want to watch it once that's fine there's always new fans who will not have seen the older ones.

[warriorfan]

If mj can get 5 hours mix wilt can get 1 hour mixes. I do make vids and have plans for vids of more isolated types of plays but the scouting vid thing is all-known baskets and I'll keep periodically updating as need be. If people only want to watch it once that's fine there's always new fans who will not have seen the older ones

you should remaster it with https://youtu.be/UJOjTNuuEVw?t=38 as the soundtrack instead

[Psileas]

If mj can get 5+hours mixes that get watched wilt can get 1+ hour mixes. Ive actually had requests to do 2+ hour version that includes passing rebounds and blocks. I do make shorter vids and have plans for vids of more isolated types of plays but the scouting vid thing is all-known baskets and I'll keep periodically updating as I feel I need. If people only want to watch it once that's fine there's always new fans who will not have seen the older ones.

I didn't claim you shouldn't be updating your Wilt mix or even that you should break it up. But, you should make, in some way, your updates easy to spot.

[CavaliersFTW]

I didn't claim you shouldn't be updating your Wilt mix or even that you should break it up. But, you should make, in some way, your updates easy to spot.
Every time I do I post all the updates down in the YT comments with time codes straight to the "new" content as well as an updated section time code - hopefully that's enough but it's up to the viewers to see the comment I guess

[ClipperRevival]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G94iJr8ZbzM

OP, did you make this video? If so, wow. It must've taken you many, many hours to get all of this footage. How were you able to obtain all this footage?

I didn't realize Wilt was as big as he was. I thought he was a little bigger than your run of the mill C. But he was 7'1"ish without shoes and started his career around at 265 lbs and played most of his career at around 300 lbs.

He's got some touch too. Definitely one of the greatest players to ever lace them up.