James Harden: 45 pts/7 asts/4 stls on 91% TS

[Smook A.]

Incredible. That's all I can say.

[Top Gun]

Wow. Dude is the MVP in my eyes.

[Thunderfan86]

Yep.....and we traded him to Houston for a bag of weed and a box of condoms.

[lilteapot]

Good Lord.

[YouGotServed]

Against the Least. Not impressed.

[k0kakw0rld]

Where was those 45 points vs the Warriors. (B.bu.buuut its only one game)

Yeah cause Pacers and Warriors is the same caliber of teams.

This bitch is overrated.

[ArbitraryWater]

the ****.. he had like 30 when I checked in the 4th.. how many of these came in garbage time (HONEST)?

[YouGotServed]

Where was those 45 points vs the Warriors. (B.bu.buuut its only one game)

Yeah cause Pacers and Warriors is the same caliber of teams.

This bitch is overrated.

http://i.imgur.com/Xzl8pfJ.gif

[SugarHill]

Klay the best shooting guard tho

lmfao

[GOBB]

He did that vs Pacers. Vs GSW what was his TS? :confusedshrug:

[Smook A.]

When was those 45 points vs the Warriors. (B.bu.buuut its only one game)

Yeah cause Pacers and Warriors is the same caliber of teams.

This bitch is overrated.
You can't tell me that he was wasn't off that game. In the Rockets' previous meeting vs the Warriors, Harden scored 34 points. Yeah... don't expect stars/superstars to play amazing every single game. It's just not going to happen. And who says having great performances against low-tier teams is bad? Harden has had big games against teams of every caliber, so **** your opinion.

[Smook A.]

He did that vs Pacers. Vs GSW what was his TS? :confusedshrug:
Lol people just can't applaud a player for having a beast game. Always have to bring up some bad game from the past just to try and dismiss their good games.

Not even the best players play great every game. It's an 82 game season. Don't expect the top players to score 30+ or dish out 10 assists every night.

[GOBB]

Lol people just can't applaud a player for having a beast game. Always have to bring up some bad game from the past just to try and dismiss their good games.

Not even the best players play great every game. It's an 82 game season. Don't expect the top players to score 30+ or dish out 10 assists every night.

I want to applaud Harden when he plays against top competition and excels. Not against a team whose starting 5 I would struggle to list. Especially after that egg he laid vs Klay the other night. I dont expect Harden to do 45pts vs Klay but what he actually did was embarrassing to say the least. Meh

[AnaheimLakers24]

1st round exit

[Smook A.]

I want to applaud Harden when he plays against top competition and excels. Not against a team whose starting 5 I would struggle to list. Especially after that egg he laid vs Klay the other night. I dont expect Harden to do 45pts vs Klay but what he actually did was embarrassing to say the least. Meh
Could've just been a bad shooting night. Usually, Harden always plays well against the Warriors. We'll see how he does this Wednesday against them.

[Warfan]

Get them stats against shit teams Harden :applause: Averages 30 in wins and 20 in losses.

[Spurs5Rings2014]

the ****.. he had like 30 when I checked in the 4th.. how many of these came in garbage time (HONEST)?

You're a stan for the GOAT garbage time stat padder. I'd stop right now if I were you.

[JohnFreeman]

Now do it in the playoffs

[juju151111]

Klay the best shooting guard tho

lmfao
They play again soon let's see again. Klaus has been balling recently.

[Smook A.]

the ****.. he had like 30 when I checked in the 4th.. how many of these came in garbage time (HONEST)?
Pacers started to come back when Harden sat in the 4th, so McHale put him back in.

[YouGotServed]

They play again soon let's see again. Klaus has been balling recently.

There is nothing to see. Harden is the league's best SG and clear cut MVP, period.

[miggyme1]

id give harden the mvp this season if rockets can get at least a 3 seed.....if they cant i gotta go with curry.

[Cocaine80s]

MVP :applause: :applause:

[k0kakw0rld]

Klay the best shooting guard tho

lmfao
He is indeed. Locked that guy down. Harden scored 7 pts vs Klay Thompson. The rest of his 5 points where in garbage time.

[SexSymbol]

runner up to the MVP Curry so far. May even surpass him in the second half of the season if Curry keeps playing less than 30 minutes.

[SugarHill]

He is indeed. Locked that guy down. Harden scored 7 pts vs Klay Thompson. The rest of his 5 points where in garbage time.
Is Klay even a top 3 most important player on his team?

[ABfor3]

He is indeed. Locked that guy down. Harden scored 7 pts vs Klay Thompson. The rest of his 5 points where in garbage time.
Harden lit Thompsons a$$ up the previous meeting with 34, the game before that he had 22, the game back in February of 2014 he lit his a$$ up with 39. Harden was obviously off, he leads the league with 30 point games, and he's done it against elite teams as well. Everybody has an off night but not everybody can lead the league with 30 point games..RENT FREE

[juju151111]

Is Klay even a top 3 most important player on his team?
Yes

[Ariza4three]

Is Klay even a top 3 most important player on his team?
dude is retarded if he thinks klay>harden

[dazzer87]

Reg Season Game..........let see this in the playoff.

[juju151111]

Harden lit Thompsons a$$ up the previous meeting with 34, the game before that he had 22, the game back in February of 2014 he lit his a$$ up with 39. Harden was obviously off, he leads the league with 30 point games, and he's done it against elite teams as well. Everybody has an off night but not everybody can lead the league with 30 point games..RENT FREE
Thompson has gotten better since last season, but we will see.

[Mr Exlax]

Damn yall some hating ass hoes for real. Harden been beasting on GSW for a couple years now. He had 1 bad game. Can't be good every time out.

[oh the horror]

Nice game. But I'm still not convinced that this guy is anything more than a regular season shtick.


Rest of the squad hardly had any shot attempts, and at this point Dwight Howard is an afterthought on this team. 6 shot attempts?


Harden shot well this game but had 15 Freethrow attempts. This is what he does during the season. Then comes the playoffs. I STILL want to see him transition into playoff basketball with some good results.

Harden-centric ball isn't getting them anywhere if their goal is a title. If it's to entertain then cool.

[Ariza4three]

Nice game. But I'm still not convinced that this guy is anymore more than a regular season shtick.


Rest of the squad hardly had any shot attempts, and at this point Dwight Howard is an afterthought on this team. 6 shot attempts?


Hardly shot well this game but had 15 Freethrow attempts. This is what he does during the season. Then comes the playoffs. I STILL want to see him transition into playoff basketball with some good results.

Harden-centric ball isn't getting them anywhere if their goal is a title. If it's to entertain then cool.
"hardly shot well"
12-18 FG and 7-12 on 3s

[BuffaloBill]

King James :bowdown: :bowdown:

[oh the horror]

"hardly shot well"
12-18 FG and 7-12 on 3s



I meant HARDEN shot well. iPhone autocorrected the shit out of that paragraph.

[SCdac]

Harden making it rain and having a great season so far. Still has alot to prove in the playoffs but that doesn't detract from what he's doing now. When he drove through the paint (splitting defenders) and slammed it down a couple games back it reminded me of Ginobili. Not fond of how trigger-happy he is from beyond the arch, but when they're falling they're falling.

[BuffaloBill]

Why yall keep calling him Harden? His name is King James

[Doranku]

Pacers.

[T_L_P]

He's my MVP so far.

He carried a shitty Rockets team for a stretch without Dwight and I think Beverly.

Though I hope people don't start talking about his defense to prove his case. Over the whole season, he's still only been a slightly above average defense (which, admittedly, is a big improvement from last year).

[Taller than CP3]

Why did he even try to get 7 assists, why not just keep shooting and go for 60+ pts?

[Milbuck]

Why did he even try to get 7 assists, why not just keep shooting and go for 60+ pts?
He didn't try to get 7 assists. It just happened because he's that ****ing good.

[oh the horror]

If this is the leagues MVP then we are in trouble.

[imdaman99]

Soft as f MVP

[SugarHill]

OKC was so stacked they let go of an MVP which they drafted

[knicksman]

Harden lit Thompsons a$$ up the previous meeting with 34, the game before that he had 22, the game back in February of 2014 he lit his a$$ up with 39. Harden was obviously off, he leads the league with 30 point games, and he's done it against elite teams as well. Everybody has an off night but not everybody can lead the league with 30 point games..RENT FREE

But its normal for harden to disappear against the games that matters. He disappears always in the playoffs

[UK2K]

Get them stats against shit teams Harden :applause: Averages 30 in wins and 20 in losses.

31, 10, 9 vs OKC on 1/15
21, 9, 7 vs CLE 1/7
32, 10, 8 vs MEM on 12/26
44, 7, 5, 3 vs POR on 12/22
34, 7, 4, 4 vs GSW on 12/10

You're right... averaging 28, 7, 5 on 47% shooting since the beginning of December.

So salty.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Holy shit. Didn't realize he did that tonight. I'm gonna try to watch this game tomorrow during the day.

[J Shuttlesworth]

31, 10, 9 vs OKC on 1/15
21, 9, 7 vs CLE 1/7
32, 10, 8 vs MEM on 12/26
44, 7, 5, 3 vs POR on 12/22
34, 7, 4, 4 vs GSW on 12/10

You're right... averaging 28, 7, 5 on 47% shooting since the beginning of December.

So salty.
:rolleyes: ugh people still acting like Harden hasn't played well against elite teams? Cherry picking the last game against GSW as if he didn't put up 34 against them earlier this year

[UK2K]

He's my MVP so far.

He carried a shitty Rockets team for a stretch without Dwight and I think Beverly.

Though I hope people don't start talking about his defense to prove his case. Over the whole season, he's still only been a slightly above average defense (which, admittedly, is a big improvement from last year).
Out of all SG's, he is #2 at 1.88 spg (Brewer is #1). Jimmy Butler is #3. Thompson is #13.

He's also 4th in blocks out of all SG's. Thompson is #3. Butler is #5.

To pretend like Harden's defense is anything less than similar to Thompson and Butler is just being a hater. His defense is there.

[TheMarkMadsen]

the only weakness in his game is the opening round of the playoffs, other than that he's legit

[UK2K]

:rolleyes: ugh people still acting like Harden hasn't played well against elite teams? Cherry picking the last game against GSW as if he didn't put up 34 against them earlier this year
Not just earlier this year, a month ago, @GSW.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Out of all SG's, he is #2 at 1.88 spg (Brewer is #1). Jimmy Butler is #3. Thompson is #13.

He's also 4th in blocks out of all SG's. Thompson is #3. Butler is #5.

To pretend like Harden's defense is anything less than similar to Thompson and Butler is just being a hater. His defense is there.
dude I love harden but his defense is nowhere near as good as Thompson or Butler. He's > both of them as players, but not defenders.

Best SG in the game though, easily.

[UK2K]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9i08cfds5c

Highlights start at 1:30.

That last three pointer was so dirty. No way to stop it.

[UK2K]

dude I love harden but his defense is nowhere near as good as Thompson or Butler. He's > both of them as players, but not defenders.

Best SG in the game though, easily.

SPG

Harden 1.9
Thompson 1.2
Butler 1.8

BPG

Harden .9
Thompson 1.0
Butler .7

DRtg

Harden 101
Thompson 102
Butler 105

DWS

Harden 2.5
Thompson 1.8
Butler 1.7

DBPM

Harden 1.2
Thompson 0
Butler .4

Except that in every measurable defensive statistic, Harden is similar, if not better, than those other two. Those who continually repeat that Harden is simply an average defender this season, haven't watched him. He's a totally different player.

[T_L_P]

Out of all SG's, he is #2 at 1.88 spg (Brewer is #1). Jimmy Butler is #3. Thompson is #13.

He's also 4th in blocks out of all SG's. Thompson is #3. Butler is #5.

To pretend like Harden's defense is anything less than similar to Thompson and Butler is just being a hater. His defense is there.

Steals are are a horrible indicator of good defense. AI probably lead the league multiple times and he was always a bad defensive player.

The Blocks are legit. But again, Blocks among big men covers maybe 10% of defense.

It's a lot more than that. Harden often doesn't know his defensive assignment, meaning he gives shooters too much space and plays drivers too tight (he was on CoJo recently and he went 7 of 9 from the field or something like that, mainly because Harden didn't know what to do). He isn't a great m2m defender as it is, and he still falls asleep completely at times.

If you seriously think Harden's defense compares to Jimmy ****ing Butler's, you're a silly homer.

Harden's playing much better defense. Serviceable defense. But c'mon.

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/DRPM/position/2

Ranked 29th among SGs.

[Xsatyr]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9i08cfds5c

Highlights start at 1:30.

That last three pointer was so dirty. No way to stop it.

http://youtu.be/X9i08cfds5c?t=1m28s

[UK2K]

Steals are are a horrible indicator of good defense. AI probably lead the league multiple times and he was always a bad defensive player.

The Blocks are legit. But again, Blocks among big men covers maybe 10% of defense.

It's a lot more than that. Harden often doesn't know his defensive assignment, meaning he gives shooters too much space and plays drivers too tight (he was on CoJo recently and he went 7 of 9 from the field or something like that, mainly because Harden didn't know what to do). He isn't a great m2m defender as it is, and he still falls asleep completely at times.

If you seriously think Harden's defense compares to Jimmy ****ing Butler's, you're a silly homer.

Harden's playing much better defense. Serviceable defense. But c'mon.

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/DRPM/position/2

Ranked 29th among SGs.


See above ^^^^

*Drops mic*

[navy]

Steals are are a horrible indicator of good defense. AI probably lead the league multiple times and he was always a bad defensive player.

The Blocks are legit. But again, Blocks among big men covers maybe 10% of defense.

It's a lot more than that. Harden often doesn't know his defensive assignment, meaning he gives shooters too much space and plays drivers too tight (he was on CoJo recently and he went 7 of 9 from the field or something like that, mainly because Harden didn't know what to do). He isn't a great m2m defender as it is, and he still falls asleep completely at times.

If you seriously think Harden's defense compares to Jimmy ****ing Butler's, you're a silly homer.

Harden's playing much better defense. Serviceable defense. But c'mon.

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/DRPM/position/2

Ranked 29th among SGs.

Jimmy Butler is ranked 30th

[UK2K]

Steals are are a horrible indicator of good defense. AI probably lead the league multiple times and he was always a bad defensive player.

The Blocks are legit. But again, Blocks among big men covers maybe 10% of defense.

It's a lot more than that. Harden often doesn't know his defensive assignment, meaning he gives shooters too much space and plays drivers too tight (he was on CoJo recently and he went 7 of 9 from the field or something like that, mainly because Harden didn't know what to do). He isn't a great m2m defender as it is, and he still falls asleep completely at times.

If you seriously think Harden's defense compares to Jimmy ****ing Butler's, you're a silly homer.

Harden's playing much better defense. Serviceable defense. But c'mon.

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/DRPM/position/2

Ranked 29th among SGs.

*Picks up mic*

By the way, that link has Butler listed at #30 (one behind Harden) so if youre going to try and act like he cant compete with Butler on the defensive end, then you should use another statistic

:roll:

*Drops mic again*

[UK2K]

id give harden the mvp this season if rockets can get at least a 3 seed.....if they cant i gotta go with curry.
I'd agree with that.

Harden and Curry are the only options really. If the Rockets don't get the 3 seed, Curry wins by default given the way MVPs are voted for these days.

[necya]

don't know why he is allowed to travel so many times. here in Europe he makes a lot of people laughing, he has handball steps
though, he plays with confidence since a month and has great night from beyond the arc.
anyway, we all know how it will end in the playoffs for him. a bit of pressure and dude shoots 33% LMAO at those fake stars in this fake league
i think Rockets will go down at 7 or 8 seed and will be ejected in the first round.

[dunksby]

don't know why he is allowed to travel so many times. here in Europe he makes a lot of people laughing, he has handball steps
though, he plays with confidence since a month and has great night from beyond the arc.
anyway, we all know how it will end in the playoffs for him. a bit of pressure and dude shoots 33% LMAO at those fake stars in this fake league
i think Rockets will go down at 7 or 8 seed and will be ejected in the first round.
Why do you watch a fake league with fake stars? Yea that's right because you are a fake fan with a fake persona who only exists on the internet.

[Spurs5Rings2014]

*Picks up mic*

By the way, that link has Butler listed at #30 (one behind Harden) so if youre going to try and act like he cant compete with Butler on the defensive end, then you should use another statistic

:roll:

*Drops mic again*

Damn. TLP, you're my boy and all, but you gotta take the L on this one, bro.

:(

[dunksby]

Harden is a great player, I was sad when we traded him but happy for him, Houston gave him what he needed the most free rein to play out of his mind.

[rezznor]

*Picks up mic*

By the way, that link has Butler listed at #30 (one behind Harden) so if youre going to try and act like he cant compete with Butler on the defensive end, then you should use another statistic

:roll:

*Drops mic again*
:oldlol:

[Mr Exlax]

*Picks up mic*

By the way, that link has Butler listed at #30 (one behind Harden) so if youre going to try and act like he cant compete with Butler on the defensive end, then you should use another statistic

:roll:

*Drops mic again*

Ouch!

[rezznor]

also convenient how everyone forgets that Indiana sucks yes, but they are still a top 10 rated defensive team

[UK2K]

also convenient how everyone forgets that Indiana sucks yes, but they are still a top 10 rated defensive team
They are 4th in PPG allowed.

They're better than top 10.

[Yoda]

Where was those 45 points vs the Warriors. (B.bu.buuut its only one game)

Yeah cause Pacers and Warriors is the same caliber of teams.

This bitch is overrated.

Flow through you, the butt hurt does.

[RightTwoCensor]

I am an unbiased NBA fan for 20 years and I've never seen a player greater than James Harden.

Not even close.

[Cone]

harden and monta are such beasts. 2 best SGs in the league

[Eric Cartman]

I am an unbiased NBA fan for 20 years and I've never seen a player greater than James Harden.

Not even close.

You mean, in person? Since you're from Houston.

Otherwise, **** off with that bullshit and put it in your ass.

[T_L_P]

*Picks up mic*

By the way, that link has Butler listed at #30 (one behind Harden) so if youre going to try and act like he cant compete with Butler on the defensive end, then you should use another statistic

:roll:

*Drops mic again*

That's the point: defensive statistics, in of themselves, basically suck.

We've already talked about SPG and BPG. DWS is derived from overall Win Shares, broken down with defensive box score stats. Individual DRtg is derived from the team's overall defensive performance (there are countless threads on ISH explaining this).

The Box +/- says Harden is a very good defensive player, the RPM says he isn't, the On/Off Splits say he isn't, and the overall Net Ratings say he isn't.

What about Harden's defense compares to Butler's or Klay's or Green's or Kawhi's? Stats need to support what someone is watching. You can't just throw around a stat and say it proves someone's worth (especially defensively). You haven't done anything to explain what is so great about his defense this season (and don't take this as me saying it's bad, it's pretty good).

Shit, Harden's Defensive +/- is better than any of Bowen's bar two seasons (06 and 02, neither of which were his peak). So there's another guy to add to the list.

[RightTwoCensor]

That's the point: defensive statistics, in of themselves, basically suck.

We've already talked about SPG and BPG. DWS is derived from overall Win Shares, broken down with defensive box score stats. Individual DRtg is derived from the team's overall defensive performance (there are countless threads on ISH explaining this).

The Box +/- says Harden is a very good defensive player, the RPM says he isn't, the On/Off Splits say he isn't, and the overall Net Ratings say he isn't.

What about Harden's defense compares to Butler's or Klay's or Green's or Kawhi's? Stats need to support what someone is watching. You can't just throw around a stat and say it proves someone's worth (especially defensively). You haven't done anything to explain what is so great about his defense this season (and don't take this as me saying it's bad, it's pretty good).

Shit, Harden's Defensive +/- is better than any of Bowen's bar two seasons (06 and 02, neither of which were his peak). So there's another guy to add to the list.
How much you charge for rent?

[YouGotServed]

I am an unbiased NBA fan for 20 years and I've never seen a player greater than James Harden.

Not even close.

:roll:

Welcome back, man.

[RightTwoCensor]

:roll:

Welcome back, man.
http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/James-Harden-Chandler-Parsons-Handshake.gif

[SugarHill]

RTC is back lol

[RightTwoCensor]

RTC is back lol
I had to. Somebody need to lead the charge for Harden's HOF Campaign.

[YouGotServed]

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/James-Harden-Chandler-Parsons-Handshake.gif

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120618043638/fantendo/images/1/1a/Troy_and_abed_handshake.gif

[T_L_P]

How much you charge for rent?

However much courtside seats were for Lillard's buzzer beating game.

http://oi46.tinypic.com/1499fy8.jpg

[UK2K]

That's the point: defensive statistics, in of themselves, basically suck.

We've already talked about SPG and BPG. DWS is derived from overall Win Shares, broken down with defensive box score stats. Individual DRtg is derived from the team's overall defensive performance (there are countless threads on ISH explaining this).

The Box +/- says Harden is a very good defensive player, the RPM says he isn't, the On/Off Splits say he isn't, and the overall Net Ratings say he isn't.

What about Harden's defense compares to Butler's or Klay's or Green's or Kawhi's? Stats need to support what someone is watching. You can't just throw around a stat and say it proves someone's worth (especially defensively). You haven't done anything to explain what is so great about his defense this season (and don't take this as me saying it's bad, it's pretty good).

Shit, Harden's Defensive +/- is better than any of Bowen's bar two seasons (06 and 02, neither of which were his peak). So there's another guy to add to the list.

Why are you going to throw out a stat in one post, and then in the next tell me that stats dont matter? I don't think stats are the end all be all, but without them, its a 'he said, she said' scenario.

Statistically, Harden is better than both on defense. Now, you may think he doesn't play defense as well as those two, but I think he does, and the stats reinforce my opinion.

[RightTwoCensor]

However much courtside seats were for Lillard's buzzer beating game.

http://oi46.tinypic.com/1499fy8.jpg
So basically the same amount as Game 6 of the Finals?

http://oi46.tinypic.com/1499fy8.jpg

[noob cake]

http://img.gamefaqs.net/box/3/7/1/52371_front.jpg