View Full Version : Kyrie Irving's last two games against elite Point Guards
J Shuttlesworth
01-20-2015, 01:13 AM
Tonight: 18/12/4/2blk
holding D Rose to 5-14 FG and 2 assists
Against Clippers: 37/5/4/3/1 on 12-18 shooting
holding CP3 to 4-15 and 5 turnovers
Loved his unselfishness tonight. He's quickly becoming my 2nd favorite player in the league
Update:
Update:
Against Blazers:
Lillard - 4-19 shooting
Kyrie - 55 pts + GW
Against Thunder:
Westbrook - 7/26 shooting on 22 pts :eek:
Kyrie had 26/6/2
Against Bulls:
Rose - 5/14 shooting
Kyrie put up 18/12/4
russwest0
01-20-2015, 01:14 AM
He's the best player on the Cavs but is he the best in the East?
The playoffs are gonna be a fun one :banana:
To be fair, Cp3 and D Rose have been struggling as of late.
But Kyrie has been good. Maybe now people wont be so mad when he gets an all star spot.
nba_55
01-20-2015, 01:16 AM
Irving, JR = best backcourt in the league :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
J Shuttlesworth
01-20-2015, 01:16 AM
He's the best player on the Cavs but is he the best in the East?
The playoffs are gonna be a fun one :banana:
Nah, it's just an effect of LeBron ball turning him into a superior player. JR Smith is tearing shit up too. Mozgov is playing extremely well too. LeBron ball is an amazing system :pimp:
nba_55
01-20-2015, 01:17 AM
To be fair, Cp3 and D Rose have been struggling as of late.
But Kyrie has been good. Maybe now people wont be so mad when he gets an all star spot.
I thought Rose was playing well lately? or you are just lying to make Irving's performances look less good?
russwest0
01-20-2015, 01:17 AM
Nah, it's just an effect of LeBron ball turning him into a superior player. JR Smith is tearing shit up too. Mozgov is playing extremely well too. LeBron ball is an amazing system :pimp:
Shit, imagine if Kyrie had LeBron playing next to him in college.... His stock would have risen so much....
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01-20-2015, 01:18 AM
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J Shuttlesworth
01-20-2015, 01:18 AM
I thought Rose was playing well lately? or you are just lying to make Irving's performances look less good?
Rose has been playing well indeed. It's the Bulls who have been playing like shit
I thought Rose was playing well lately? or you are just lying to make Irving's performances look less good?
He played his usual tonight, take that as you will.
Kyrie has been excellent these past two games so im not taking anything away from him.
Hotlantadude81
01-20-2015, 01:41 AM
To be fair, Cp3 and D Rose have been struggling as of late.
No he hasn't... But he was due for a letdown game.
No he hasn't... But he was due for a letdown game.
???
J Shuttlesworth
01-20-2015, 01:46 AM
???
There was some stat thew showed on TNT tonight that Rose was averaging like 25/8 on 50% shooting the last 5 games or something like that
There was some stat thew showed on TNT tonight that Rose was averaging like 25/8 on 50% shooting the last 5 games or something like that
Hmm...
last 10
23
29
32
18
19
7
19
12
17
18 for the season. :confusedshrug:
Still not himself.
RedBlackAttack
01-20-2015, 02:03 AM
Hmm...
last 10
23
29
32
18
19
7
19
12
17
18 for the season. :confusedshrug:
Still not himself.
I'm not trying to have a go at Bulls fans and I actually hope it is not the case, because the league is better off when Rose is playing at his absolute ceiling, but isn't it time we consider that this is Derrick Rose now?
I'm seeing an improved version of what he was during the FIBA tournament, but if people are expecting him to suddenly transform into the player who put up 25 points and 8 assists a game in his MVP season, I think we're rapidly approaching the time for them to re-evaluate his status.
I'd be surprised if he is ever that guy again and I say that with no joy.
The Bulls are still a dangerous team with him playing at his current level, which just might be the new Rose. The reason is they have another potential star in the making with Butler and a very good frontcourt and coach.
But, is it really a surprise that Kyrie outplayed Rose tonight? He's been the better player this season by a considerable margin and he's still only 22, getting better almost every night with his all-around game. The only surprise to me was that Kyrie did it more with his passing than scoring. :confusedshrug:
I'm not trying to have a go at Bulls fans and I actually hope it is not the case, because the league is better off when Rose is playing at his absolute ceiling, but isn't it time we consider that this is Derrick Rose now?
I'm seeing an improved version of what he was during the FIBA tournament, but if people are expecting him to suddenly transform into the player who put up 25 points and 8 assists a game in his MVP season, I think we're rapidly approaching the time for them to re-evaluate his status.
I'd be surprised if he is ever that guy again and I say that with no joy.
The Bulls are still a dangerous team with him playing at his current level, which just might be the new Rose. The reason is they have another potential star in the making with Butler and a very good frontcourt and coach.
But, is it really a surprise that Kyrie outplayed Rose tonight? He's been the better player this season by a considerable margin and he's still only 22, getting better almost every game with his all-around game. The only surprise to me was that Kyrie did it more with his passing than scoring. :confusedshrug:
Well, Ive seen flashes of Rose playing great so that is enough to give me reason to think that he returns to form. Although, Im not sure if it will be this season. And despite all the noise about increased vertical and what not, he certainly isnt as athletic as he use to be.
Kyrie is better than him now. But I think most of us still hold out for MVP Rose to return.
Richesly
01-20-2015, 03:02 AM
He had two good games, but I can't make a thread about Teague after having an 8 game of stretch of averaging 22/8 before today's piston game. Not trying to derail the thread, just saying how double standard this board is.
RedBlackAttack
01-20-2015, 03:08 AM
He had two good games, but I can't make a thread about Teague after having an 8 game of stretch of averaging 22/8 before today's piston game. Not trying to derail the thread, just saying how double standard this board is.
Except, it's not just two games.
The previous 6 games before tonight, Kyrie was averaging...
25 points on 49% FG, 47% 3PT, 89% FT
5 assists
1.7 steals
So, how is it a double-standard? You're free to make a thread about Jeff Teague. Hell, I've seen at least three positive topics about Jeff Teague on here in the last couple days.
J Shuttlesworth
01-29-2015, 02:58 AM
Update:
Against Blazers:
Lillard - 4-19 shooting
Kyrie - 55 pts + GW
Against Thunder:
Westbrook - 7/26 shooting on 22 pts :eek:
Kyrie had 26/6/2
Against Bulls:
Rose - 5/14 shooting
Kyrie put up 18/12/4
b..bb...but I thought Kyrie was a bad defender :coleman:
Update:
Against Blazers:
Lillard - 4-19 shooting
Kyrie - 55 pts + GW
Against Thunder:
Westbrook - 7/26 shooting on 22 pts :eek:
Kyrie had 26/6/2
Against Bulls:
Rose - 5/14 shooting
Kyrie put up 18/12/4
b..bb...but I thought Kyrie was a bad defender :coleman:
He's not a bad defender persay, he just gives up/gets tired. Sometimes does this weird spin thing when picked. Or he use to do those things.
He has good speed and hands so when he tries he can do a great job on the best point guards in the nba. As evidence by these games.
Although I gotta be honest, all these guys are some gunners.
Pointguard
01-29-2015, 03:35 AM
I'm not trying to have a go at Bulls fans and I actually hope it is not the case, because the league is better off when Rose is playing at his absolute ceiling, but isn't it time we consider that this is Derrick Rose now?
I'm seeing an improved version of what he was during the FIBA tournament, but if people are expecting him to suddenly transform into the player who put up 25 points and 8 assists a game in his MVP season, I think we're rapidly approaching the time for them to re-evaluate his status.
Rose has had three significant improvements since the season started. So I don't know why we should listen to you Doctor. Most of the time with severe knee issues it isn't the first year back that you get it.
But, is it really a surprise that Kyrie outplayed Rose tonight? He's been the better player this season by a considerable margin and he's still only 22, getting better almost every night with his all-around game. The only surprise to me was that Kyrie did it more with his passing than scoring. :confusedshrug:
I agree here. And Rose shoots like that on a lot of nights. Rose is not at elite level now and has off and on games but can outplay anybody on any given day and even right now the one most likely that can handle Wall on a given day. Kyrie is one of my hopes of the future. I only go to games to see exciting players and he's one of a few now. I don't have Kyrie on the level of Wall, Lowry or Teague who are noticeably more consistent, and have great control of the game. They deserve to be in the all star game ahead of Kyrie. And Kyrie should be compared to them as he progresses.
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