Is Thibs actually on the hotseat?

[Joyner82reload]

Assuming Chicago flames out this year and does something like finish as the 5 seed and lose in the 1st round to Washington/Toronto, is there a real possibility he gets fired? OKC sure could use a real coach...

[305Baller]

He runs his teams into the ground. Thats his only negative.

[Papaya Petee]

Yeah, makes sense, lets fire the best defensive coach in the league from a team that is known to win games on the defensive end.

[poido123]

Yeah, makes sense, lets fire the best defensive coach in the league from a team that is known to win games on the defensive end.


Don't pretend like you know if Thibs is good for our team. :rolleyes:


He's a good defensive coach and maybe a very good assistant, but the 5 year track record shows that he overplays his starters, he is poor at in game adjustments, he plays Hinrich way too many minutes, he doesn't like developing young players unless he has to, he regularly makes the wrong player adjustments according to the scoreboard.

On top of all that, he hasn't created any identity on the offensive end. We still dribble pass, standaround and our offense is too predictable. Our ball movement is pretty poor considering we have excellent passers.


Just too many negatives for the one big positive he provides. If this year is a bad one, it's time to move on and try a new direction.

[TheMarkMadsen]

get a thermometer and check the seat

[Milbuck]

Despite all his clear weaknesses (running his players into the ground isn't the only one) and how ugly this season could end up for Chicago...I think it'll end up okay for them. I think they get out of whatever this is and become what they were supposed to be, a top 2 team in the conference.

But if the worst does happen, he does get fired...and OKC steals him...it's pretty much game over for the rest of the West.

[Ariza4three]

Don't pretend like you know if Thibs is good for our team. :rolleyes:


He's a good defensive coach and maybe a very good assistant, but the 5 year track record shows that he overplays his starters, he is poor at in game adjustments, he plays Hinrich way too many minutes, he doesn't like developing young players unless he has to, he regularly makes the wrong player adjustments according to the scoreboard.

On top of all that, he hasn't created any identity on the offensive end. We still dribble pass, standaround and our offense is too predictable. Our ball movement is pretty poor considering we have excellent passers.


Just too many negatives for the one big positive he provides. If this year is a bad one, it's time to move on and try a new direction.
Thank God Bulls fans are this stupid. Please fire him. Vaughn will be gone next year too and I will welcome him with open arms in Orlando. Just get a good offensive assistant coach.

[poido123]

Thank God Bulls fans are this stupid. Please fire him. Vaughn will be gone next year too and I will welcome him with open arms in Orlando. Just get a good offensive assistant coach.


We don't settle for "good enough" as Bulls fans.

Maybe in Orlando they do...

He will get you a regular playoff team. Beyond that and your team is too cooked to put a fight up.

[Ariza4three]

We don't settle for "good enough" as Bulls fans.

Maybe in Orlando they do...

He will get you a regular playoff team. Beyond that and your team is too cooked to put a fight up.
Stop your team superiority f*ggot. The last time the Bulls got to the Finals you were still shitting your pants.
Gonna be so funny to see this team fall apart if Thibs leaves.

[Crystallas]

LOL, Thibs is not on the hotseat.

[b1imtf]

So... Can someone tell me what's going on in Chitown?

[I<3NBA]

Yeah, makes sense, lets fire the best defensive coach in the league from a team that is known to win games on the defensive end.
Except Chicago is ranked 15th in defense this season.

[imnew09]

I like him as a coach but I sometimes feel like he's too hard on his players. Way too many injuries playing under thib

[Papaya Petee]

We don't settle for "good enough" as Bulls fans.

Maybe in Orlando they do...

He will get you a regular playoff team. Beyond that and your team is too cooked to put a fight up.

I'm not even going to answer your other points, because Thibs has overachieved with these Bulls teams as much as he could. Without him you could say goodbye to the #1 seed in 11 and 12, and probably wouldn't make the playoffs the past 2 years without Rose.

Had Thibs not relied heavily on his starters the past 2 seasons, especially with Rose injured, they would not only not be the 4 seed the past two years, they wouldn't even have made the playoffs. He was limited on options.

What Bulls team since 2010-2011 was Thibs supposed to lead to a championship? Even if Rose was healthy since his MVP year, the Bulls had NO chance against the Heat during the LeBron-Wade era. He was supposed to lead the Bulls missing Rose in 2011-2012 and 2012-2013 to anything else but the playoffs :roll:

Guys complaining about a "regular" playoff team that has a championship potential this year with Thibs coaching if they can stay healthy. :roll:

[Cocaine80s]

Stop your team superiority f*ggot. The last time the Bulls got to the Finals you were still shitting your pants.
Gonna be so funny to see this team fall apart if Thibs leaves.
nikka is from Australia acting as if he is part of the Bulls staff :roll:

[Cocaine80s]

Also, Cleveland will gladly take him in as an assistant under Blatt :cheers:

[Papaya Petee]

Except Chicago is ranked 15th in defense this season.
That has nothing to do with Noah (DPOY level player, their anchor on defense) being injured for most of the season...

[Genaro]

I don't want to watch NBA when Brooks has a job and Thibs is fired.
That being said, I would love if the Lakers get him.

[SwishSquared]

We don't settle for "good enough" as Bulls fans.

Maybe in Orlando they do...

He will get you a regular playoff team. Beyond that and your team is too cooked to put a fight up.
Chicago's struggling because he wore down key guys last year hopelessly chasing a playoff run instead of tanking post-Deng trade (which he would never do...). Noah's now hobbled, Butler's expending more energy offensively (so he has less in the tank on D imo), and they're riding Pau way too much. They probably had a less than stellar draft moving up to take McDermott when they could have had Nurkic @ #16 and a wing at #19. They're also missing 2 starters and McDermott, who was set to be a regular rotation piece.

Chicago will be alright once they get healthier. He's so loyal to some guys to the detriment of the rest of team, though. Pau should be playing 28MPG and shouldn't be a primary offensive hub so often. Against second units, playing alongside Gibson, he'd be destroying more bigs and would likely conserve more energy. Thibs needs to stagger the rotations better and start developing some young guys (Snell, especially).

He plays Kirk too much but if you really think CHI is better off without him, you're just not being rational. He's an incredible coach. His FO let his top assistant leave due to thriftiness and needs to bring in a better offensive coach (Gentry was easily available for the right price), but again, they don't want to pay. He hurts his team with minutes management, but I still think his positive attributes outweigh the negatives easily.

[Ariza4three]

nikka is from Australia acting as if he is part of the Bulls staff :roll:
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[JohnFreeman]

Stop your team superiority f*ggot. The last time the Bulls got to the Finals you were still shitting your pants.
Gonna be so funny to see this team fall apart if Thibs leaves.
:roll:

[DukeDelonte13]

thibs would immediately be hired by another team.

[I<3NBA]

That has nothing to do with Noah (DPOY level player, their anchor on defense) being injured for most of the season...
That would mean Noah is the reason for the Bulls great defense, not Thibs. The mark of a good coach is that no matter who plays, they make their system work.

[SwishSquared]

That would mean Noah is the reason for the Bulls great defense, not Thibs. The mark of a good coach is that no matter who plays, they make their system work.
It's not like the defensive style he championed has been copied by a ton of teams or anything... Thibs' defensive principles are as game changing as D'Antoni's offensive schemes.

[T_L_P]

That would mean Noah is the reason for the Bulls great defense, not Thibs. The mark of a good coach is that no matter who plays, they make their system work.

Greg Popovich: not a good coach?

[poido123]

nikka is from Australia acting as if he is part of the Bulls staff :roll:


I have watched them enough to have a fairly good insight into what's good for the team.

We are here to post opinions and that is my opinion on Thibs from what I've watched over the years...


Maybe when your balls drop will you know anything about life in general.


:rolleyes:

[poido123]

Stop your team superiority f*ggot. The last time the Bulls got to the Finals you were still shitting your pants.
Gonna be so funny to see this team fall apart if Thibs leaves.


What has Orlando done in their storied franchise career? I'll wait.

You seem to believe they are a top 4 seed this year as I recall, so i really find it hard to take you seriously on anything basketball related. :oldlol:




#Jameerstayslosing

[IncarceratedBob]

He's a trash coach. Spo outcoached him so many times and that says it all. When you get outcoached by a glorified video editor you are trash

[Ariza4three]

What has Orlando done in their storied franchise career? I'll wait.

You seem to believe they are a top 4 seed this year as I recall, so i really find it hard to take you seriously on anything basketball related. :oldlol:




#Jameerstayslosing
I stay WINNING. I would wreck your shit so hard humanity would have to relocate to within Wall Maria.

[T_L_P]

He's a trash coach. Spo outcoached him so many times and that says it all. When you get outcoached by a glorified video editor you are trash

Pop got dismantled by Avery at one point, tbh.

[poido123]

I stay WINNING. I would wreck your shit so hard humanity would have to relocate to within Wall Maria.



:sleeping

[SamuraiSWISH]

Don't see why he shouldn't be.

[Ariza4three]

:sleeping
Loser :oldlol:
kek

[navy]

Greg Popovich: not a good coach?
Just trying to show he was the Goat teacher as well as coach

[poido123]

Loser :oldlol:
kek



Have you moved out of your mom's basement yet jameer?


:oldlol:

[Ariza4three]

Have you moved out of your mom's basement yet jameer?


:oldlol:
I don't have a basement, and yes I still live with my parents since I'm 16 years old dumbass.

[Lebronxrings]

do you guys think the cavs could get him? Imagine lebron and co with a half decent coach... :eek: :wtf:

[Crimsonrain777]

I stay WINNING. I would wreck your shit so hard humanity would have to relocate to within Wall Maria.

oh i get it. Attack on Titan is the new in-thing in anime so you decided to reference it in a comment. you little ***:facepalm

[poido123]

I don't have a basement, and yes I still live with my parents since I'm 16 years old dumbass.


Give it time.


That will be your next big move up in the world :applause:

[Ariza4three]

oh i get it. Attack on Titan is the new in-thing in anime so you decided to reference it in a comment. you little ***:facepalm
"new" it's been out almost two years you ****ing newf*g

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Absolutely not, unless there are proven, elite head coaches on the market this summer.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Absolutely not, unless there are proven, elite head coaches on the market this summer.
He might not be available but Jeff Van Gundy > Thibs ... just as great defensively, but better offensively. Would manage personnel a lot better, as well as being more flexible and not as stubborn with game plans.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

He might not be available but Jeff Van Gundy > Thibs

Wasn't Thibs, JVG's protege? Not sure he is better, but I've always wondered why he never got back into coaching.

[poido123]

He might not be available but Jeff Van Gundy > Thibs ... just as great defensively, but better offensively. Would manage personnel a lot better, as well as being more flexible and not as stubborn with game plans.



I'd love to see Jeff coach this team :applause:

[triangleoffense]

Don't pretend like you know if Thibs is good for our team. :rolleyes:


He's a good defensive coach and maybe a very good assistant, but the 5 year track record shows that he overplays his starters, he is poor at in game adjustments, he plays Hinrich way too many minutes, he doesn't like developing young players unless he has to, he regularly makes the wrong player adjustments according to the scoreboard.

On top of all that, he hasn't created any identity on the offensive end. We still dribble pass, standaround and our offense is too predictable. Our ball movement is pretty poor considering we have excellent passers.


Just too many negatives for the one big positive he provides. If this year is a bad one, it's time to move on and try a new direction.

Who else is out there though? Any way if you fire Thibs you take a huge chance on a very small coaching pool.

[YouGotServed]

lmao @ Chi fans wanting to fire thibs and hire Jeff van gundy.

Thibs was Jeff's assistant for a long time. They're basically the same person coaching wise.

do people even watch basketball?

[poido123]

Who else is out there though? Any way if you fire Thibs you take a huge chance on a very small coaching pool.


I don't know man, I guess I'd rather take my chances than be an annual playoff team which never goes any further.


I think the coaching change would need to be for another quality coach though. Not Mike Brown or someone like that.

[TheMarkMadsen]

I don't have a basement, and yes I still live with my parents since I'm 16 years old dumbass.

jameer the boy who never ages

[triangleoffense]

lmao @ Chi fans wanting to fire thibs and hire Jeff van gundy.

Thibs was Jeff's assistant for a long time. They're basically the same person coaching wise.

do people even watch basketball?
lol still a hating ****** i see

[YouGotServed]

lol still a hating ****** i see

I don't know who you are.

RENT FREE.

[poido123]

lol still a hating ****** i see


Houston forever the treadmill team.

Howard and Harden has him fooled, poor guy :oldlol:

[triangleoffense]

Houston forever the treadmill team.

Howard and Harden has him fooled, poor guy :oldlol:
lol is that his team? I knew him when i first joined and he had another usename, would make fun of my choice of women on the otc social except that he's too scared to post any pics of his pathetic life :oldlol

LOL probably has multiple accounts with just as many posts =/

[poido123]

lol is that his team? I knew him when i first joined and he had another usename, would make fun of my choice of women on the otc social except that he's too scared to post any pics of his pathetic life :oldlol

LOL probably has multiple accounts with just as many posts =/



He's alright though.


I find other posters here way more annoying...

[triangleoffense]

He's alright though.


I find other posters here way more annoying...
There are a lot of gimmick accounts on here that exist solely for the purpose of trolling, what's funny in his case is that he presents himself as an actual person. Seriously I'm still lol'ing that he still posts on here

[YouGotServed]

Don't even remember who this guy is. :oldlol: Must have really hit a nerve doe. YGS stays living rent free.

[sportsfan76]

He should have been on the hotseat in 2012 when he allowed his team to lose to the 76ers in the 1st round


But Anything less than the ECF and next he should be fired

[3ball]

Thibbs gets too much credit anyway... i understand that he came up with the strategies that allowed defenses to combat spacing strategy and defensive 3 seconds, which allowed teams to maintain the same level of defensive effectiveness as previous eras.

Thibbs deserves credit for this, but even if he'd never developed the strategies, someone else would have out of sheer necessity, so that defensive effectiveness wasn't obliterated in light of the massive advantages that spacing and defensive 3 seconds gave to offenses... the spacing and rule changes simply necessitated new defensive strategy - GM Daryl Morey says just that: “A lot of the defensive strategies you see now are a NATURAL EVOLUTION from rule changes”.. http://www.quotetimes.com/people/51429/daryl-morey

And now EVERYONE is using the same defensive strategies, since they are optimal for defending spacing and mitigating defensive 3 seconds... Since EVERYONE is using the same strategy, Thibbs' isn't really needed anymore... he's obsolete... his luster is gone... it's not 2010 anymore... :confusedshrug:
.

[Ariza4three]

Thibbs gets too much credit anyway... i understand that he came up with the strategies that allowed defenses to combat spacing strategy and defensive 3 seconds, which allowed teams to maintain the same level of defensive effectiveness as previous eras.

Thibbs deserves credit for this, but even if he'd never developed the strategies, someone else would have out of sheer necessity, so defensive effectiveness wasn't obliterated in light of the massive advantages that spacing and defensive 3 seconds gave to offenses... the spacing and rule changes simply necessitated new defensive strategy - GM Daryl Morey says just that: “A lot of the defensive strategies you see now are a NATURAL EVOLUTION from rule changes”.. http://www.quotetimes.com/people/51429/daryl-morey

And now EVERYONE is using the same defensive strategies, since they are optimal for defending spacing and mitigating defensive 3 seconds... Since EVERYONE is using the same strategy, Thibbs' isn't really needed anymore... he's obsolete... his luster is gone... it's not 2010 anymore... :confusedshrug:
Shut the **** up.

[poido123]

Shut the **** up.


Stays angry :oldlol:

[J Shuttlesworth]

How much more help does Rose need? :rolleyes:

[dunksby]

That would mean Noah is the reason for the Bulls great defense, not Thibs. The mark of a good coach is that no matter who plays, they make their system work.
He doesn't have a magic wand, your defense is as good as your defenders, going by your logic Thibs teams would have to be the same defensively, playing either one of these players Joakim Noah/Tyson Chandler/Andrea Bargnani/Hasheem Thabeet.

[poido123]

How much more help does Rose need? :rolleyes:


Rose has done everything he can. The team is playing like ass.

[Ariza4three]

Rose has done everything he can. The team is playing like ass.
Top ****ing kek

[poido123]

Top ****ing kek


Get a job

[Ariza4three]

Get a job
I have one jackass :oldlol:

[poido123]

I have one jackass :oldlol:


Humor me. What is It? :lol

[Ariza4three]

Humor me. What is It? :lol
Not telling you bud. I don't want you knowing where I work.

[YouGotServed]

Rose has done everything he can. The team is playing like ass.

:roll: How many games has he sat down because his ankle feels funny?

Take off your homer glasses, poido.

[sportsfan76]

Rose has done everything he can. The team is playing like ass.


The coach is coaching ass

[triangleoffense]

Don't even remember who this guy is. :oldlol: Must have really hit a nerve doe. YGS stays living rent free.
lol still mad as always iguess

[YouGotServed]

lol still mad as always iguess

RENT FREE. :oldlol:

[JohnFreeman]

damn, YGS going in

[Joyner82reload]

[QUOTE=3ball]Thibbs gets too much credit anyway... i understand that he came up with the strategies that allowed defenses to combat spacing strategy and defensive 3 seconds, which allowed teams to maintain the same level of defensive effectiveness as previous eras.

Thibbs deserves credit for this, but even if he'd never developed the strategies, someone else would have out of sheer necessity, so that defensive effectiveness wasn't obliterated in light of the massive advantages that spacing and defensive 3 seconds gave to offenses... the spacing and rule changes simply necessitated new defensive strategy - GM Daryl Morey says just that:

[3ball]

http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/573113292e852dcb8f5fe242c53e3982.gif





I keep rereading this attempting to find the thinly veiled Jordan reference


oh, it's in there - today's defensive strategies were designed by Thibbs to combat spacing and the new rules, particularly defensive 3 seconds... in the absence of spacing and the new rules, today's defensive strategies aren't applicable or relevant.

does it LOOK like a strong-side flood is needed in the GIF above?.. that would be like telling a girl with double FF's that she needs a boob job.

now that offenses have spacing and defenders can't camp in the paint anymore, today's strategies merely prevent defensive effectiveness from being worse than previous eras, when there was NO spacing and defenders COULD camp in the paint.

Ultimately, Thibbs' strategies just aren't proprietary anymore - EVERYONE uses them - they are completely standard for all teams at this point... so his luster and value-add has been drastically reduced... he's more or less just another coach at this point... #realtalk

[poido123]

:roll: How many games has he sat down because his ankle feels funny?

Take off your homer glasses, poido.


He's doing the right thing.

With what's happened to his knees, he has to be cautious.

Nobody thought Rose could come back from what he's been through. look at him now.

The guy has worked his backside off to get back to playing at a high level. Not easy.

[poido123]

Not telling you bud. I don't want you knowing where I work.


What TYPE of work do you do?

I don't want to know where :oldlol:

[hawksdogsbraves]

Not telling you bud. I don't want you knowing where I work.

You don't want him coming down to the Wendy's near Disney World and giving you a hard time?

[triangleoffense]

RENT FREE. :oldlol:
lol stay mad that Houston gonna get ganked in the 1st or 2nd round