What current players are First Ballot HOFs

[lakers1978]

Off the top of my head:

Surefire first ballot:

Kobe
Lebron
Dirk
Timmy
KG
Durant(At his current pace)
Wade
Nash
Howard

Maybe:

Ginobli
Ray Allen
Allen Iverson
Pau
Carmello
Chris Paul
Bosh

[Joyner82reload]

Noone cares about 1st ballot in basketball, the hall isn't anywhere NEAR as prestigious in basketball as it is in football or baseball. Just stop.

[SamuraiSWISH]

1st ballots, no question:

LeBron
Kobe
Wade
Duncan
Iverson
KG
Dirk
Durant
Nash
Howard
Ray Allen

2nd ballots ...

Ginobili
Pau Gasol
Carmelo
Chris Paul
Bosh
T. Parker

Maybe some more I'm missing

[BasedTom]

Off the top of my head:

Surefire first ballot:

Kobe
Lebron
Dirk
Timmy
KG
Durant(At his current pace)
Wade
Nash
Howard

Maybe:

Ginobli
Ray Allen
Allen Iverson
Pau
Carmello
Chris Paul
Bosh
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[Doranku]

Why would CP3 be first ballot? Don't you have to... you know, accomplish something to be first ballot?

[Kingwillball]

Off the top of my head:

Surefire first ballot:

Kobe
Lebron
Dirk
Timmy
KG
Durant(At his current pace)
Wade
Nash
Howard

Maybe:

Ginobli
Ray Allen
Allen Iverson
Pau
Carmello
Chris Paul
Bosh


What team is he on ? There USED to be an AI in the league like 10 years ago. :confusedshrug:

[G0ATbe]

Kobe
Durant
Wade
Parker
Ginobili
Ray Allen
Duncan
Dirk

[Young X]

https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/barkley-head-shake-o.gif3x DPOY
18/13/2 career average
Led league in rebounding 5x
Led league in blocks 2x
5x All NBA 1st...

[L.Kizzle]

Iverson is a current player? But Pierce isn't?

[JohnFreeman]

Howard is first ballot, but not Allen?

[SugarHill]

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Deal with it. He's a first ballot HoF.

[chosen_one6]

LeBron, Dirk, Timmy

[La Frescobaldi]

Paul Pierce too

[pauk]

Noone cares about 1st ballot in basketball, the hall isn't anywhere NEAR as prestigious in basketball as it is in football or baseball. Just stop.

Yea, but nobody cares about football/baseball outside US... so... :) basketball on a world scale competes only against soccer, football/baseball (especially football) is as popular as womens cricket.

[SouBeachTalents]

Yea, but nobody cares about football/baseball outside US... so... :)

The Caribbean/South America/Asia say hi

[24-Inch_Chrome]

The one person that excluded LeBron :facepalm

Love him or hate him he's going in on the first ballot.

[pauk]

The Caribbean/South America/Asia say hi

Baseball is not so pathetic outside, Hockey is aight aswell (actually more popular i would say), but American Football.... damn... most dissed sport outside America.... and those very few people who do like it prefer the original non-pussified version instead (Rugby)....

[Hoopz2332]

The Caribbean/South America/Asia say hi

Baseball isn't on the same level as basketball from a global perspective.

[Fowl]

The Caribbean/South America/Asia say hi
I'm from the Dominican Republic and I can tell you that by 2025 Basketball will be just as popular in the Caribbean as baseball. You will start to see a lot of NBA talent coming from DR very very soon.

Currently guys like Al Horford,Francisco Garcia, and Charlie Villanueva and then next year Karl Towns. OH yeah! And this guy, Ronald Roberts Jr

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8AnnxdpWtU

[JohnFreeman]

The one person that excluded LeBron :facepalm

Love him or hate him he's going in on the first ballot.
He is trying to troll/be funny

[truhooper]

:roll: at Nash being in the hof

[JohnFreeman]

:roll: at Nash being in the hof
2x MVP

[La Frescobaldi]

:roll: at Nash being in the hof
probably unanimous selection

[Milbuck]

:roll: at Nash being in the hof
:biggums:

[FKAri]

:roll: at Nash being in the hof

da ***?

[SexSymbol]

FIRST BALLOT BOYYZZ:
Kobe
Dirk
Duncan
Garnett
LeBron
Wade
Iverson (meh)
Carter
Pierce

Nash isn't really worth HOF

[USABall]

I personally think Pau will get first ballot.

[toxicxr6]

You know what I find so funny.. These damn Kobe stans posting everywhere

They just cant help it.. they have to put Duncan at the bottom of their lists.. not matter what the list is

Its so pathetic and predictable

Duncan rent free inside these Kobe stans for sure.. and its killing them inside

[La Frescobaldi]

You know what I find so funny.. These damn Kobe stans posting everywhere

They just cant help it.. they have to put Duncan at the bottom of their lists.. not matter what the list is

Its so pathetic and predictable

Duncan rent free inside these Kobe stans for sure.. and its killing them inside

:roll: :roll: That dude Mr. Duncan keeps his teammates around him and highly motivated...... they don't split for other teams and then dog him out like........ well, like just about everybody that leaves LA :lol ........ meanwhile that old man keeps..... :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: .... winning rings...... and has his team in high contention every season.....

when was the last time the Lakers were anything? like 5 years ago? :roll: :roll:

[BasedTom]

:roll: at Nash being in the hof
Are you like 6 years old or something?

[Alan Ogg]

Tony Parker will go first ballot.

[T_L_P]

Tony Parker will go first ballot.

Sickening.

[aj1987]

Baseball is not so pathetic outside, Hockey is aight aswell (actually more popular i would say), but American Football.... damn... most dissed sport outside America.... and those very few people who do like it prefer the original non-pussified version instead (Rugby)....
Kinda ironic of you to call football a "pussified" version of rugby. Oh, even though they wear pads, it's more brutal than rugby. Without pads, it would result in a player visiting the ER every singly play.

[L.Kizzle]

Tony Parker will go first ballot.
He won't. It took Dennis Johnson to die of a heart attack before he got in.

[TaLvsCuaL]

Pau is a lock and it is not even debatable.

[SHAQisGOAT]

1st ballot for sure?

Duncan
Kobe
LeBron
Dirk
KG
Wade
Nash
Durant (at this "pace")

Others may have a solid chance but can't tell...

Sidney Moncrief had his career cut short by injuries still "early" but he's a 2x DPOY (most at guard), 5x all-nba (once 1st), 5x all-defensive, 5x all-star, once 4th in MVP voting, led big-winning teams (also into the post-season), played in arguably the GOAT era/conference, was putting up 21/6/5 on very good efficiency in his prime... Which leaves me thinking about Dwight Howard, I think he'll probably be 1st ballot though.
Sid not being in is just shameful at this point, imo.

[SHAQisGOAT]

Pau is a lock and it is not even debatable.

He's definitely a lock to get in at some point but I don't know about 1st ballot. Maybe so.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Duncan
Kobe
LeBron
Dirk
KG
Wade
Nash
Paul
Durant

Kidd/Shaq will get in 1st ballot when they're eligible.

Can somebody explain how Chris Paul is not on a 1st ballot hall of famer pace but Steve Nash is? Thanks.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Tony Parker will go first ballot.

I'm not even sure I'd vote him in at all. Of course he'll get in and based on precedent deserves to be. I just wouldn't put him in what i consider hall of fame worthy.

[T_L_P]

1st ballot for sure?

Duncan
Kobe
LeBron
Dirk
KG
Wade
Nash
Durant (at this "pace")

Others may have a solid chance but can't tell...

Sidney Moncrief had his career cut short by injuries still "early" but he's a 2x DPOY (most at guard), 5x all-nba (once 1st), 5x all-defensive, 5x all-star, once 4th in MVP voting, led big-winning teams (also into the post-season), played in arguably the GOAT era/conference, was putting up 21/6/5 on very good efficiency in his prime... Which leaves me thinking about Dwight Howard, I think he'll probably be 1st ballot though.
Sid not being in is just shameful at this point, imo.

The more I watch of him (found some Playoff game Torrents), the more I'm starting to see why you are mad. I mean, his stats and accolades should easily put him in the HoF, but this dude could flat-out play.

One of the best perimeter defenders ever, and a superstar offensive player. Guys like Richmond are making it before him. :biggums:

[dunksby]

Baseball is not so pathetic outside, Hockey is aight aswell (actually more popular i would say), but American Football.... damn... most dissed sport outside America.... and those very few people who do like it prefer the original non-pussified version instead (Rugby)....
Speak for yourself not for almost the whole world jackass, let's look at football coverage around the world:
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[Dresta]

Speak for yourself not for almost the whole world jackass, let's look at football coverage around the world:
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Every non-American i know laughs at the stupidity and banality of American football. It's such a boring and tiresome sport - an advertisers wet-dream, and not much else. Appeals to unintelligent Americans who like watching large men run wear pads and continually clatter into one another.

[Joyner82reload]

Every non-American i know laughs at the stupidity and banality of American football. It's such a boring and tiresome sport - an advertisers wet-dream, and not much else. Appeals to unintelligent Americans who like watching large men run wear pads and continually clatter into one another.

The amusing thing is that football as a whole requires more intelligence than basketball.

[SHAQisGOAT]

The more I watch of him (found some Playoff game Torrents), the more I'm starting to see why you are mad. I mean, his stats and accolades should easily put him in the HoF, but this dude could flat-out play.

One of the best perimeter defenders ever, and a superstar offensive player. Guys like Richmond are making it before him. :biggums:

Very true.

I mean, you look at some players already in then think about a few who still haven't made it - especially Sid - and realize it's just downright shameful :facepalm All about the "politics" I guess...

[GOATbrook]

The amusing thing is that football as a whole requires more intelligence than basketball.
Yeah we saw what Green Bay did in last 2 minutes of game...:lol

[Jlamb47]

Duncan
KG
Dirk
Kidd
Nash
Shaq
Kobe
Wade
Lebron
Dwight
Paul
Durant
Iverson
Allen
Pierce
Parker
Maybe Ginobli

[dunksby]

Every non-American i know laughs at the stupidity and banality of American football. It's such a boring and tiresome sport - an advertisers wet-dream, and not much else. Appeals to unintelligent Americans who like watching large men run wear pads and continually clatter into one another.
And I know a lot of people who respect the sport and watch it regularly, I'm not an American football fan and catch at most 2 games a year but I think it's a legit sport and rate it higher than sports like handball or volleyball TBH. At the end of the day like soccer the goal is to get the ball to the goal (touchdown) area one sport mostly kicks the ball into that area the other one takes it there. Hell they do kick the ball into goal regularly as well so why you hating?

[HurricaneKid]

Howard is first ballot, but not Allen?

5X 1st team all NBA >>> 1 3rd team All NBA

I get that everyone hates Dwight but do people seriously not get how good he was before the back injury?

[Alan Ogg]

Regarding everyone saying no about Tony Parker.

Finals MVP
4x champion
will finish career top 10 in playoff points (possibly reach it this season)
will finish career top 5 in playoff assists (possibly reach it this season)

[kshutts1]

Current expected HOF players...

Most likely first ballot:
Kobe
Duncan
Lebron
Dirk
KG

Most likely not first ballot, but definitely making it:
Pierce
Howard
Nash
Wade
Durant (still too young to bump him up)
Carter
Pau
Manu
Parker
Allen

Likely, but not definite, to make it:
Westbrook
Paul
Curry
Davis
Melo
Harden
Marc

Has a shot:
Cousins
Griffin
Aldridge
Wall
Rose

.... and how long that list is, is exactly why minimal stock should be put in as to whether or not a player is a HOF player.

[Alan Ogg]

He won't. It took Dennis Johnson to die of a heart attack before he got in.

DJ is a good comparable, but Parker has surpassed him careerwise and Parker's career is still going.

With this question, it really depends on the year and competition. Look at Alonzo Mourning. Tony Parker looks like he'll be going in removed from all these other guys mentioned.

[tpols]

5X 1st team all NBA >>> 1 3rd team All NBA

I get that everyone hates Dwight but do people seriously not get how good he was before the back injury?
Their competition for spots

Kobe, tmac, Manu, iverson, Dwayne wade

Vs

Andrew Bynum, Amare, and old Yao ming


Great fking argument dude...

[SouBeachTalents]

Current expected HOF players...

Most likely first ballot:
Kobe
Duncan
Lebron
Dirk
KG

Most likely not first ballot, but definitely making it:
Pierce
Howard
Nash
Wade
Durant (still too young to bump him up)
Carter
Pau
Manu
Parker
Allen

Likely, but not definite, to make it:
Westbrook
Paul
Curry
Davis
Melo
Harden
Marc

Has a shot:
Cousins
Griffin
Aldridge
Wall
Rose

.... and how long that list is, is exactly why minimal stock should be put in as to whether or not a player is a HOF player.

Wade's definitely making it on the first ballot

[kshutts1]

Wade's definitely making it on the first ballot
I'm trying to gauge who will be voted in, not who I think deserves it.

And, like it or not, even voters tend to suffer from a recency bias. Wade has not been particularly relevant for a few years now.

So unless his career has an upswing, I believe that he will be looked at in two parts... first part is a clear first ballot guy, and arguably a top 2-3 SG ever. The second player is a likely (but not definite) HOF player.

Those two views of Wade could make him become a definite, but not first ballot, HOFer.

Just how I'm looking at it, is all.

[HurricaneKid]

Wade has not been particularly relevant for a few years now.


Seriously?

[kshutts1]

Seriously?
On a historical level? Yes. Seriously.

Very rough averages of 21/5/4.5 for the last 4 seasons, including this one.
And an eye-ball-estimate of 55 GP for the three seasons preceding this one.

Sorry, not calling that HOF relevant play.

Go back to a fifth season back, and his averages are "boosted" to 22/5/5, but at least the GP goes up, probably to around 60.

Obviously a lot depends on how this season plays out, but I believe I noted that already... by saying "unless he has an upswing".

[SouBeachTalents]

I'm trying to gauge who will be voted in, not who I think deserves it.

And, like it or not, even voters tend to suffer from a recency bias. Wade has not been particularly relevant for a few years now.

So unless his career has an upswing, I believe that he will be looked at in two parts... first part is a clear first ballot guy, and arguably a top 2-3 SG ever. The second player is a likely (but not definite) HOF player.

Those two views of Wade could make him become a definite, but not first ballot, HOFer.

Just how I'm looking at it, is all.

Wade's last 5 seasons: 22, 5, 5 on 51%, 3 All-NBA selection, 3 top 10 MVP finishes, 2 titles, 4 Finals appearances. If this is irrelevant, what would you call KG for the last 3-5 seasons? How about Shaq in his last 5 years in the league?

[kshutts1]

Wade's last 5 seasons: 22, 5, 5 on 51%, 3 All-NBA selection, 3 top 10 MVP finishes, 2 titles, 4 Finals appearances. If this is irrelevant, what would you call KG for the last 3-5 seasons? How about Shaq in his last 5 years in the league?
Three very clearly team awards.

But basically all I'm saying is Wade has not scared anyone for quite some time now. When he's healthy he's certainly good, but the health is too few, and when he's good he's no longer a clear-cut top player in the league.

Just a story of different parts of his career, with the first part not being long enough, IMO, to override the second part completely. I still listed him as a definite HOF, keep in mind. Not saying he's a scrub.

[kshutts1]

Three very clearly team awards.

But basically all I'm saying is Wade has not scared anyone for quite some time now. When he's healthy he's certainly good, but the health is too few, and when he's good he's no longer a clear-cut top player in the league.

Just a story of different parts of his career, with the first part not being long enough, IMO, to override the second part completely. I still listed him as a definite HOF, keep in mind. Not saying he's a scrub.
Just occurred to me that the bolded is my personal view, while earlier I said I was trying to look at it from the committee's POV.

You're right, he is first ballot.

[lilteapot]

Kobe
Duncan
Dirk
KG
Lebron
Pierce(?)
Wade

[BasedTom]

Deal with it. He's a first ballot HoF.
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[T_L_P]

Regarding everyone saying no about Tony Parker.

Finals MVP
4x champion
will finish career top 10 in playoff points (possibly reach it this season)
will finish career top 5 in playoff assists (possibly reach it this season)

He's a sure-fire Hall of Famer. It's just that he shouldn't be (absolute dirt of 3 of 4 title teams).

Manu should be 1st ballot.

[They Won]

He's a sure-fire Hall of Famer. It's just that he shouldn't be (absolute dirt of 3 of 4 title teams).

Manu should be 1st ballot.

Both should be 1st ballot.

[T_L_P]

Both should be 1st ballot.


absolute dirt of 3 of 4 title teams

No.

[They Won]

What world do we live in where 6 time NBA all-stars, who are 4x champions (all significant role) with a FMVP, who spread the game on a global level through international play aren't 1st ballot HOF? :biggums:

[Rooster]

He's a sure-fire Hall of Famer. It's just that he shouldn't be (absolute dirt of 3 of 4 title teams).

Manu should be 1st ballot.

Neither of them should be first ballot but Manu national team career will make him one.

[T_L_P]

What world do we live in where 6 time NBA all-stars, who are 4x champions (all significant role) with a FMVP, who spread the game on a global level through international play aren't 1st ballot HOF? :biggums:

Because he was never the most important player on his own team, and for a good 80% of his career (2002-2012, then again from 2014), he wasn't even the second most important player on his own team. :biggums:

By traditional HoF standards, Parker is a sure thing. I'm saying he shouldn't be, because he's been a 2nd string star for most of his prime and only once (2013 Regular Season) been a superstar.

Ben Wallace won't be a 1st Ballot HoFer, and he's a lot better/greater/more valuable (however you want to put it) than Parker.

[La Frescobaldi]

Because he was never the most important player on his own team, and for a good 80% of his career (2002-2012, then again from 2014), he wasn't even the second most important player on his own team. :biggums:

By traditional HoF standards, Parker is a sure thing. I'm saying he shouldn't be, because he's been a 2nd string star for most of his prime and only once (2013 Regular Season) been a superstar.

Ben Wallace won't be a 1st Ballot HoFer, and he's a lot better/greater/more valuable (however you want to put it) than Parker.

wait, I thought we were talking about Tony, not Smush.

[SHAQisGOAT]

What world do we live in where 6 time NBA all-stars, who are 4x champions (all significant role) with a FMVP, who spread the game on a global level through international play aren't 1st ballot HOF? :biggums:

You look at Dennis Johnson:

-3x champion;
-FMVP;
-2x all-nba (once 1st);
-think he would've most likely gotten DPOY in 1981 if the award was already given out (one of the few all-time guards who deserved it);
-9x all-defensive (6x 1st);
-5x all-star;
-top15 in Playoff points when he retired (now #21);
-#11 in Playoff assists but that's as of right now;
-14 seasons played, defined as one of the best defensive players ever, one of the GOAT clutch performers (after that debacle in 1978), and a very good all-around/overall player who throughout changes in style of play and athleticism remained good;
...
And like said before, took for him to die in order for them to get him in.

I'm not getting into the discussion on wheter Parker should be 1st ballot or not, just saying you gotta look at these things in perspective.

Like I've said, at this point is downright shameful that a player like Sid Moncrief is not a HoF'er yet... Even for a player like Bobby Jones, especially looking at dudes already in. Shit, how about Jo Jo White?

[TheMarkMadsen]

Kobe, bran, KG, Duncan, Dirk

[La Frescobaldi]

You look at Dennis Johnson:

-3x champion;
-FMVP;
-2x all-nba (once 1st);
-think he would've most likely gotten DPOY in 1981 if the award was already given out (one of the few all-time guards who deserved it);
-9x all-defensive (6x 1st);
-5x all-star;
-top15 in Playoff points when he retired (now #21);
-#11 in Playoff assists but that's as of right now;
-14 seasons played, defined as one of the best defensive players ever, one of the GOAT clutch performers (after that debacle in 1978), and a very good all-around/overall player who throughout changes in style of play and athleticism remained good;
...
And like said before, took for him to die in order for them to get him in.

I'm not getting into the discussion on wheter Parker should be 1st ballot or not, just saying you gotta look at these things in perspective.

Like I've said, at this point is downright shameful that a player like Sid Moncrief is not a HoF'er yet... Even for a player like Bobby Jones, especially looking at dudes already in. Shit, how about Jo Jo White?

Yes indeed - to all that.... Moncrief getting the A-Train type shaft...... except JoJo White. He had a fine career, that's it.

All-Star level..... not Hall of Fame level.

[SHAQisGOAT]

Yes indeed - to all that.... Moncrief getting the A-Train type shaft...... except JoJo White. He had a fine career, that's it.

All-Star level..... not Hall of Fame level.

I don't know about that... 2x champ, FMVP, 2x all-nba 2nd, 7x all-star, 11 seasons played, 7 absolute prime years of 20/4.5/5.5 on 44/83 combined... Very good case can be made and I'm pretty sure some gotten in doing "less".

Imo, Moncrief should've definitely been in by now, I'd even say something similar to a lesser extent for someone like Bobby Jones... Looking at players already in.

[L.Kizzle]

Yes indeed - to all that.... Moncrief getting the A-Train type shaft...... except JoJo White. He had a fine career, that's it.

All-Star level..... not Hall of Fame level.
I think guys like White and Moncrief have shots.

With the recent inductions of players like Gilmore, King, Chet Walker, Richie Guerin, Mitch Richmond types. I could see JoJo, Sid along with players like Bob Dandridge, Bobby Jones, Lou Hudson, ect getting in.

[TheBigVeto]

Surefire first ballot:

Dirk
Timmy
KG
Paul Pierce
Nash
Lebron
Durant
Ginobili
Pau

Maybe:

Ray Allen
Chris Paul
Tony Parker

[BasedTom]

Surefire first ballot:

Dirk
Timmy
KG
Paul Pierce
Nash
Lebron
Durant
Ginobili
Pau

Maybe:

Ray Allen
Chris Paul
Tony Parker
Tony Parker but no Kobe or Wade? :biggums:

[COnDEMnED]

3x DPOY
18/13/2 career average
Led league in rebounding 5x
Led league in blocks 2x
5x All NBA 1st...
Doesn't look like enough for first ballot to me.

[SexSymbol]

Doesn't look like enough for first ballot to me.
seconded

[supernova5912]

Tim Duncan, the greatest power forward all-time, has career averages of 19.7 points, 11.1 rebounds, and 2.0 blocks with a 55.0 TS% and a 24.5 PER, not to mention an offensive rating of 110 and defensive rating of 96. In the playoffs, he's averaged 21.3 points, 11.7 rebounds, and 2.3 blocks with a 54.8 TS% and a 24.6 PER, not to mention an offensive rating of 110 and defensive rating of 99.

Kobe Bryant the second greatest shooting guard all-time, has career averages of 25.4 points, 5.3 rebounds, 4.8 assists, and 1.5 steals with a 55.3 TS% and a 23.2 PER, not to mention an offensive rating of 111 and defensive rating of 105. In the playoffs, he averaged 25.6 points, 5.1 rebounds, 4.7 steals, and 1.4 steals with a 54.1 TS% and a 22.4 PER, not to mention an offensive rating of 110 and defensive rating of 106.

LeBron James, the second greatest small forward all-time, has career averages of 27.5 points, 7.2 rebounds, 6.9 assists, 1.7 steals, and 0.8 blocks with a 58.1 TS% and a 27.1 PER, not to mention an offensive rating of 116 and defensive rating of 102. In the playoffs, he averages 28.0 points, 8.4 rebounds, 6.4 assists, 1.7 steals, and 0.9 blocks with a 57.8 TS% and a 27.7 PER, not to mention an offensive rating of 116 and defensive rating of 101.

Dirk Nowitzki, arguably the second greatest power forward all-time, has career averages of 22.4 points, 8.0 rebounds, 0.9 steals and 0.9 blocks with a 58.2 TS% and a 23.4 PER, not to mention an offensive rating of 117 and defensive rating of 104. In the playoffs, he averages 25.6 points, 10.1 rebounds, 1.1 steals, and 0.9 blocks with a 57.9 TS% and a 24.2 PER, not mention an offensive rating of 117 and defensive rating of 107.

Kevin Garnett, arguably the third greatest power forward all-time, has career averages of 18.3 points, 10.2 rebounds, 3.8 assists, 1.4 blocks, and 1.3 steals with a 54.7 TS% and a
22.8 PER, not to mention an offensive rating of 110 and defensive rating of 99. In the playoffs, he averages 18.2 points, 10.7 rebounds, 1.3 blocks, and 1.2 steals with a 52.5 TS% and a 21.1 PER, not to mention an offensive rating of 105 and defensive rating of 99.

Dwayne Wade, arguably the third greatest shooting guard all-time, has career averages of 24.2 points, 6.0 assists, 5.0 rebounds, 1.7 steals, and 0.9 blocks with a 56.7 TS% and a 25.2 PER, not to mention an offensive rating of 111 and defensive rating of 104. In the playoffs, he averages 22.9 points, 5.3 rebounds, 5.1 assists, 1.6 steals, and 1.0 blocks with a 55.4 TS% and a 22.7 PER, not to mention an offensive rating of 108 and defensive rating of 103.

Paul Pierce, one of the top ten small forwards all-time, has career averages of 21.0 points, 5.9 rebounds, and 1.4 steals with a 56.9 TS% and a 20.3 PER, not to mention an offensive rating of 109 and defensive rating of 103. In the playoffs, he averages 20.3 points, 6.2 rebounds, and 1.3 steals with a 55.1 TS% and 17.6 PER, not to mention an offensive rating of 105 and defensive rating of 102.

Kevin Durant isn't a first-ballot Hall of Famer yet, Steve Nash basically retired already, Ray Allen is a free agent, and Chris Paul needs to get past the 2nd round first.