Career >= 25ppg and 50% 2P FG

[Marchesk]

http://s12.postimg.org/ag36clnrh/25_and_50_percent.png

Who is fifth (without looking)?

[inclinerator]

kobe bryant

[navy]

Dwayne Wade

[RightTwoCensor]

Had to look it up. I wasn't surprised who it was, but more surprised at the players who is wasn't.

[Done_And_Done]

Ot - Malone played a shit ton of games

[Relinquish]

Dwayne Wade

Who? :biggums:

[Ariza4three]

Had to look it up. I wasn't surprised who it was, but more surprised at the players who is wasn't.
Who is it?

[navy]

Who? :biggums:
My bad. Dwyane Wade.

Pretty sure his career ppg isnt high enough though.

[Marchesk]

It's not Wade and Kobe has only shot over 50% from two once in his career.

Wade is at 23.9 on 51.3%. Not bad. A healthier Wade would have been there.

[TheMarkMadsen]

My bad. Dwyane Wade.

Pretty sure his career ppg isnt high enough though.

Pretty sure wade didn't come off the bench for half of his career either.

[navy]

Pretty sure wade didn't come off the bench for half of his career either.
Hmm...didnt see that.

It's gotta be the Iceman then.

[RightTwoCensor]

Hmm...didnt see that.

It's gotta be the Iceman then.
We've got a winner. :party:

[RightTwoCensor]

Who is it?
Icedawg

[Marchesk]

It's interesting that Lebron and Durant both average less PF than Wilt did, who never fouled out of a single game.

Anyway, yeah Gervin. On less minutes and free throws than any of the other five. Lebron leading in TOs. That ball dominance.

[Trollsmasher]

It's interesting that Lebron and Durant both average less PF than Wilt did, who never fouled out of a single game.
Wilt is a center and has 6 more mpg:lol

[Ariza4three]

It's interesting that Lebron and Durant both average less PF than Wilt did, who never fouled out of a single game.

Anyway, yeah Gervin. On less minutes and free throws than any of the other five. Lebron leading in TOs. That ball dominance.
He played in an era where they didn't play defense.

[RightTwoCensor]

I didn't know Durant never came off the bench and I had to look up when Lebron came off the bench, too.

[Marchesk]

Funny how Durant has .1 more FTA than Jordan did. :wtf:

I know Durant does drive, but we're talking MJ here.

[RightTwoCensor]

Funny how Durant has .1 more FTA than Jordan did. :wtf:

I know Durant does drive, but we're talking MJ here.
People could logically argue Durant is more skilled scoring wise than Jordan, as great as he was.

[Marchesk]

People could logically argue Durant is more skilled scoring wise than Jordan, as great as he was.

Don't let 3-Ball see this.

[hahaitme]

http://i.imgur.com/B3iWzuc.jpg

[RightTwoCensor]

Don't let 3-Ball see this.
Who's that?

[Marchesk]

Who's that?

An MJ stan. Was just kidding. I agree with much of what he posts, but not everyone does.

[Papaya Petee]

Don't let 3-Ball see this.
That moron said overall Pippen= Durant, so I don't listen to much of what he says.

[navy]

That moron said overall Pippen= Durant, so I don't listen to much of what he says.
What's funny is that if you read his post about Jordan's help he will mention how Pippen is garbage. Using those words exactly.

[Odinn]

K then. According to Basketballreference, there are only 2 players with 20+ career ppg while shooting .400+ from 3 pointers. Who are they? Any guesses?

[JebronLames]

K then. According to Basketballreference, there are only 2 players with 20+ career ppg while shooting .400+ from 3 pointers. Who are they? Any guesses?
Steph Curry and Ray allen?

[AintNoSunshine]

It's interesting that Lebron and Durant both average less PF than Wilt did, who never fouled out of a single game.

Anyway, yeah Gervin. On less minutes and free throws than any of the other five. Lebron leading in TOs. That ball dominance.
0.1 more TO 3.5 more assists. LOL@Durant tho

[Odinn]

Steph Curry and Ray allen?
Curry is one of 'em but I don't think anyone can name the 2nd one without looking it up.

[RightTwoCensor]

Curry is one of 'em but I don't think anyone can name the 2nd one without looking it up.
Reggie or Pierce

[JebronLames]

Curry is one of 'em but I don't think anyone can name the 2nd one without looking it up.
give me a clue

[T_L_P]

http://i.imgur.com/B3iWzuc.jpg

Hmmm. I really thought we had an 'ill' emoticon.

[JebronLames]

Drazen Petrovic

[PejaTheSerbSnip]

Woulda guessed either Iceman or Dantley for the OP :p

[3ball]

What's funny is that if you read his post about Jordan's help he will mention how Pippen is garbage. Using those words exactly.


you got me here - i concede that i was biased in saying two things:

1) Pippen > Durant (I was hypocritical here and disingenuous - I think Pippen is vastly overrated, just like HOF's Isiah Thomas and others think... Pippen's just not as good as Durant)

2) Drexler > Mcgrady - Mcgrady only had one truly elite season, but that season was sooo good, it was enough to demonstrate his superiority.

Here is my new UNBIASED list of the Top 10 Wings from 1984-1998 vs. 2000-2014 (each era is ranked IN ORDER):



..........TOP 10 WINGS (SG or SF)


...2000-2014.............1984-1998

Kobe Bryant............. Michael Jordan
LeBron James........... Larry Bird
Dwayne Wade........ Clyde Drexler
Kevin Durant.......... Dominique Wilkins
Tracey McGrady..... Grant Hill
James Harden........ Penny Hardaway
Paul Pierce.............. Scottie Pippen
Carmelo Anthony...... Adrian Dantley
Vince Carter.......... James Worthy
Allen Iverson........... Reggie Miller


HM 1984-1998: Dr. J, Latrell Sprewell, Sidney Moncrief, Mitch Richmond, Joe Dumars, Alvin Robertson, Dennis Johnson, Ronaldo Blackman, Dennis Rodman, Alex English, Chris Mullin, Glen Rice, Kiki Vandeweghe, Mark Aguirre, Glenn Robinson, Jamaal Mashburn, Detlef Schrempf, Reggie Lewis, Fat Lever, Jeff Hornacek, Allan Houston, Eddie Jones, Jeff Malone

HM 2000-2014: Ray Allen, Paul George, Manu Ginobili, Brandon Roy, Joe Johnson, Rip Hamilton, Gilbert Arenas, Ron Artest, Shawn Marion, Michael Redd, Peja Stojakovic, Antawn Jamison, Luol Deng, Rashard Lewis

[RightTwoCensor]

Is that dude serious? ^

[Ruler]

George is a beast. Met him at the palmer course at La Cantera and got to talk a bit to him.
Anyways, one of the most under appreciated players in NBA history. Sure he didn't win but, what, 3 playoff series? But he was one of the greatest pure scorers ever. Glad he was a Spur :cheers:

[navy]

I was hypocritical here and disingenuous
Nothing else needs to be said.

[Marchesk]

Curry is one of 'em but I don't think anyone can name the 2nd one without looking it up.

Dale Ellis without looking is my guess.

[Odinn]

Dale Ellis without looking is my guess.
He's one of the 70s legends and he was a good shooter. But the main reason why his percentage was so high, the 3 point line was introduced on his last season. The dude shot only 15 3 pointers.

[hahaitme]

K then. According to Basketballreference, there are only 2 players with 20+ career ppg while shooting .400+ from 3 pointers. Who are they? Any guesses?

Curry one of them? Was gonna say Ray Allen but considering he's been role playing for a few years now his PPG prob pretty low

[3ball]

Nothing else needs to be said.
except that this is the weakest era ever for SF's.... and actually frontcourts in general, since the bigs in previous eras were vastly superior as well...
.

[DatAsh]

Funny how Durant has .1 more FTA than Jordan did. :wtf:

I know Durant does drive, but we're talking MJ here.


Durant is way better at getting to the line than Jordan. He gets those free throws on significantly less shot attempts.

[JebronLames]

Durant is way better at getting to the line than Jordan. He gets those free throws on significantly less shot attempts.
Plus long arms that draw contact

[Odinn]

Curry one of them? Was gonna say Ray Allen but considering he's been role playing for a few years now his PPG prob pretty low
Yeah. His Heat career caused his career ppg to suffer. Before joining the Heat, his career ppg was 19.98.

Curry is one of them. Like I said, noone can guess the other name there is no reason to push longer.

The other name is Pete Maravich.

[Marchesk]

He's one of the 70s legends and he was a good shooter. But the main reason why his percentage was so high, the 3 point line was introduced on his last season. The dude shot only 15 3 pointers.

Oh, LOL. Would have never guessed Maravich. I just looked and saw that Wes Unseld shot 50% from 3PT.

[RightTwoCensor]

except that this is the weakest era ever for SF's.... and actually frontcourts in general, since the bigs in previous eras were vastly superior as well...
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http://i.gyazo.com/4ca22338a7de69a45e932101a82dc8f9.png

11 of these 19 players are from this generation.

[Spurs5Rings2014]

The 3ball stopper.

:bowdown:

[RightTwoCensor]

It default sorts by WS.

Don't focus on that, try to stay on topic and focus on the lack of players you claimed were better than the elites of this generation. Why is it so hard for players of last generation to maintain a PER of 20+?

EDIT: 3ball ran like a that graphic was a plague

[3ball]

11 of these 19 players are from this generation.


your sorting criteria proves my point - 15 championships for wings from the previous era compared to 5 from this era.

so while previous era wings were good enough to have a championship team built around them, today's wings are not.

the only wings in today's era good enough to accomplish that is Lebron, and only if he team-hops to find the best talent - so in reality, there are NO WINGS in today's game capable of having a championship team built around them from scratch....

No wing from this era can match the quality of Magic, Michael, or Larry... and the wing class of previous eras was FAR deeper, which your list would have shown if it went past 19 players... :eyeroll

well, i guess there's Kobe, who won 2 rings, but that demonstrates the bias and the lack of integrity of your methodology - he's the best wing from today's era, but he doesn't make the list... (although, seeing paul pierce and 8 more guys ahead of magic johnson already let us know that the analysis was garbage).
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[RightTwoCensor]

There's no point in arguing with someone who brings nothing to the table but ludicrous opinions.

Call me back when you bring some valid facts or stats to back yourself up.

[3ball]

There's no point in arguing with someone who brings nothing to the table but ludicrous opinions.

Call me back when you bring some valid facts or stats to back yourself up.
Your list of the top 19 players since 1984 doesn't include Duncan, yet it includes Blake Griffin, Lamarcus Aldridge and Kevin Love... GTFO.

you know who else isn't on the list: Kobe... he's not on the list AT ALL, ANYWHERE.... but Elton Brand is - you have Brand as a top-19 player since 1984... again, GTFO

then of course, Paul Pierce and 8 other players were ahead of Magic Johnson... one final time... GTFO

most importantly, the previous era players from your list won 15 rings to 5 rings for today's era - so while previous era wings were good enough to have a championship team built around them, today's wings are not.

finally, when you posted that table, it ****ed up the whole page... now i have to scroll to the right and left just to navigate... learn how to post better.

[Psileas]

Apart from being an incredible scorer (his points/minute ratio is jordanesque), Gervin had also a very high offensive rebound ratio for a guard: About 33% of his rebounds are offensive, while, for comparison to other good rebounding SG's, Jordan had a 25% ratio and Kobe 21%.