lebron for mvp

[Lebronxrings]

I mean.. This guy is too much. Harden, Durant are just 2 tiers below sorry.

[Combat Wombat]

I mean.. This guy is too much. Harden, Durant are just 2 tiers below sorry.

Grow a set, mods, and ban this fcking rodent along with his alts.

[Magic 32]

If only every star in NBA could take 2 weeks off and then get MVP hype with 3 times as many losses as the best team in the NBA.

[tmacattack33]

It could easily happen. The season's only half over. Cleveland will prob still end up top 3 in the East, which is close enough to put him in contention.

[JT123]

Agreed. :cheers:
Unfortunately the media..cough Windhorst cough... have sabotaged his chances by writing a bunch of fictional articles about him trying to get his coach fired. This was a deliberate attempt to make Lebron appear less likable and get others to not vote for him. Basically fat boy taking his revenge over Lebron giving his coming home story to SI. :rolleyes:

[Hoopz2332]

If only every star in NBA could take 2 weeks off and then get MVP hype with 3 times as many losses as the best team in the NBA.


24-12 with lebron and 1-8 w/o him ...... THAT MVP IMPACT!!!!

[VengefulAngel]

What's Cleveland's record with Lebron?

24-12, on pace for 54 wins with Lebron.

[RedBlackAttack]

If the Cavs continue playing like this, he'll be right at the top of the discussion again. He is back to being the best player in the league and I'm not sure it is particularly close at the moment.

Note that I was probably his biggest critic a few weeks back. He has been phenomenal.

[VengefulAngel]

If the Cavs continue playing like this, he'll be right at the top of the discussion again. He is back to being the best player in the league and I'm not sure it is particularly close at the moment.

Note that I was probably his biggest critic a few weeks back. He has been phenomenal.

First time he's actually playing with aggression this season. Lebron in attack mode is one of the most pleasing sites in sports history.

[JebronLames]

He won't win, but he's the real mvp

[Magic 32]

24-12 with lebron and 1-8 w/o him ...... THAT MVP IMPACT!!!!

24-12 is still pedestrian compared to the Warriors

...and he still abandoned them.

[navy]

It would take a crazy win streak to do it.

Best bet is on Curry.

[RedBlackAttack]

It would take a crazy win streak to do it.

Best bet is on Curry.
Probably. But I don't see the Warriors maintaining this kind of play for 82 games, while I think the Cavs will continue to get better.

Either way, LBJ is back to being the best player in the league and that's good enough for the Cavs. Curry can have the regular season hardware if he keeps this up. He will have earned it, but I'll ride with LeBron in the playoffs.

[Heavincent]

He's not winning it unless the media completely changes the criteria, which I wouldn't put past them. MVP has always gone to the best player on the best team. If not the best team, it goes to somebody on a top 5 team, at least.

Just watch Curry get absolutely screwed.

[Magic 32]

Curry can have the regular season hardware if he keeps this up. He will have earned it, but I'll ride with LeBron in the playoffs.

http://www.hazardouscargo.com/sites/default/files/u4/man_holding_upsidedownhorse.jpg

[JohnnyA]

At the moment no, but if he keeps playing like this and cavs keep winning like this there's a chance. That said I don't think the media wants to pick him this so both him and the team would probably have to do something pretty amazing.

[RedBlackAttack]

He's not winning it unless the media completely changes the criteria, which I wouldn't put past them. MVP has always gone to the best player on the best team. If not the best team, it goes to somebody on a top 5 team, at least.

Just watch Curry get absolutely screwed.
SA had the best record last year. KD won it on a 50+ win team.

Chicago and SA both had better records than Miami in 2011-12. LeBron won it.


There is plenty of precedent for players on teams that don't necessarily have the best record, but very good records, getting the MVP. With the way the Cavs are playing right now, they could easily get to that 50-win plateau that has usually disqualified guys from MVP conversations. J/S

[Heavincent]

SA had the best record last year. KD won it on a 50+ win team.

Chicago and SA both had better records than Miami in 2011-12. LeBron won it.


There is plenty of precedent for players on teams that don't necessarily have the best record, but very good records, getting the MVP. With the way the Cavs are playing right now, they could easily get to that 50-win plateau that has usually disqualified guys from MVP conversations. J/S

I said top 5 team, which the Cavs probably won't be by the end of the season.

Regardless, Steph Curry is a superstar (overall leader in all star votes) who will most likely end up leading his team to 65+ wins. It would be a crime against humanity if he doesn't get MVP. The award would lose any credibility it had left.

[SexSymbol]

24-12, on pace for 54 wins with Lebron.
woooow...

[Cocaine80s]

I said top 5 team, which the Cavs probably won't be by the end of the season.

Regardless, Steph Curry is a superstar (overall leader in all star votes) who will most likely end up leading his team to 65+ wins. It would be a crime against humanity if he doesn't get MVP. The award would lose any credibility it had left.
Yea, it depends if the cavs can get 50+ wins.

If Curry leads Warriors to 65+ wins he deserves it.

If they end up with around 60 and Cavs get maybe 55 then it would be close.

Right now:
Curry: 23/8/5
Lebron: 26/7/6

We'll see how the numbers look towards the end of the season

[RedBlackAttack]

I said top 5 team, which the Cavs probably won't be by the end of the season.

Regardless, Steph Curry is a superstar (overall leader in all star votes) who will most likely end up leading his team to 65+ wins. It would be a crime against humanity if he doesn't get MVP. The award would lose any credibility it had left.
It's January. You don't win the MVP in January. Paul George was a frontrunner for MVP at this time last year and the Pacers were 32-8.

Just don't get too far ahead of yourself.

[imdaman99]

24-12, on pace for 54 wins with Lebron.
54 wins in a stacked East is pretty respectable. A lot more than 70 wins in the West :applause: lol branstans stay reachin

[Heavincent]

It's January. You don't win the MVP in January. Paul George was a frontrunner for MVP at this time last year and the Pacers were 32-8.

Just don't get too far ahead of yourself.

People keep waiting for the Warriors to fall off a cliff. Hint: it's not gonna happen.

[Mr. Jabbar]

this guy has stacked the deck in his favor with no shame for years now. gtfo with this guy being anything remotely close to an mvp

[RedBlackAttack]

People keep waiting for the Warriors to fall off a cliff. Hint: it's not gonna happen.
I actually don't expect them to fall off a cliff. But, I also don't think they'll win 65 games. There's a middle ground between those two things.

[Heavincent]

I actually don't expect them to fall off a cliff. But, I also don't think they'll win 65 games. There's a middle ground between those two things.

I'd say there's a pretty good chance they go at least 30-11 considering they have the deepest roster in the league.

[Paul George 24]

I mean.. This guy is too much. Harden, Durant are just 2 tiers below sorry.
curry >>>>>> james

[plowking]

24-12 is still pedestrian compared to the Warriors

...and he still abandoned them.

Come on dude. It still isn't as bad as when Kobe left, in the playoffs.

[Kvnzhangyay]

I'd say there's a pretty good chance they go at least 30-11 considering they have the deepest roster in the league.

Assuming that they play their starters the whole way until the playoffs, not taking any games near the end of the season to rest in prep for the playoffs?

[triangleoffense]

Only if cleveland is top2 especially with he weak ass east. If not it's definitely going to Curry.

[k0kakw0rld]

this guy has stacked the deck in his favor with no shame for years now. gtfo with this guy being anything remotely close to an mvp
tears are salty :D

[JT123]

tears are salty :D
:roll:

[Lebron23]

Finals MVP > MVP.

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2818293/takethathaters.gif

[SamuraiSWISH]

Finals MVP > MVP.
If you're the team's definitive best player? Co-sign.

MJ - 6x
Shaq - 3x
Duncan - 3x
Magic - 3x
Bird - 2x
LeBron - 2x
Kobe - 2x
Hakeem - 2x
Wade - 2006

[dunksby]

It's January. You don't win the MVP in January. Paul George was a frontrunner for MVP at this time last year and the Pacers were 32-8.

Just don't get too far ahead of yourself.
Durant was the clear MVP from the earlier parts of the season, dude let one year pass before revising history aight?
MVP LADDER: GOOD LUCK CATCHING KD!
January 24, 2014
(http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2014/01/24/mvp-ladder-good-luck-catching-kd/)

[ArbitraryWater]

Like RBA said it, I like LeBron's chances if the Cavaliers keep this trend up.... He'll likely get them the 2nd seed, and if it comes down to LeBron v.s. Curry, they could, and probably should go with LeBron.

His impact once again has been unprecedented this year, and we can see it in their with/without records.


Durant was the clear MVP from the earlier parts of the season, dude let one year pass before revising history aight?
MVP LADDER: GOOD LUCK CATCHING KD!
January 24, 2014
(http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2014/01/24/mvp-ladder-good-luck-catching-kd/)

Did you forget that LeBron led the MVP Race in late February after he came into OKC and took a big fat dumb on Durant? AND then dropped 61? LeBron was the one that gave the award away with one of the worst stretches of his career, KD didn't regain the #1 spot by spectacular play, he was already a bit burned out in the last month.

[pauk]

If he & Cavs played like this since the start of the season and he didnt miss two weeks.... he sure would be the favorite at the moment...

It all has to translate to team success and it does for Lebron/Cavs since he returned... but its a bit to late considering whats going on with example Houston/Harden, Cavs will have to go on a insane winning spree to catch up...

[Overdrive]

Like RBA said it, I like LeBron's chances if the Cavaliers keep this trend up.... He'll likely get them the 2nd seed...

If they keep winning at a 2/3 base, they'll end up with 49 to 50 wins, which is just enough to make the playoffs in the west - and they'd do it in a conference where the 8th seed is on a 35 win pace.

[BigTicket]

Lebron is not going to win the MVP this year, get over it already. Not like he needs another anyway, he already has as many as Duncan, Kobe and Shaq combined.

Harden and Curry are both clearly ahead of him at this point, and chances are at least one of them will maintain that lead.

[hahaitme]

Unless the rockets get up to at least 2nd seed, Curry is winning this year.

Probably the most bandwagoned team (after the cavs) this year, top seed. Not to mention curry just beat out lebron in all star voting.

He has the popularity to win it and the stats to back it up. At least Harden prob won't win, can you imagine how many OKC fans would be on suicide watch :roll:

[unbreakable]

LOL Lebron has NO CHANCE at MVP.. playing on the most stacked team in the League and traded away half his team..

as if beating on the east is impressive:oldlol:

[dunksby]

Like RBA said it, I like LeBron's chances if the Cavaliers keep this trend up.... He'll likely get them the 2nd seed, and if it comes down to LeBron v.s. Curry, they could, and probably should go with LeBron.

His impact once again has been unprecedented this year, and we can see it in their with/without records.



Did you forget that LeBron led the MVP Race in late February after he came into OKC and took a big fat dumb on Durant? AND then dropped 61? LeBron was the one that gave the award away with one of the worst stretches of his career, KD didn't regain the #1 spot by spectacular play, he was already a bit burned out in the last month.
And Durant took a dump on him and the Heat the first time, nowhere during the season one or two game changed the tide. Durant led everyone from the beginning to the end cause they needed him to do so with Westbrook missing such a great chunk of the season.
I'm not sure why I keep taking you serious while it's evident you are a brainless stan.

[poido123]

Curry has the MVP on lock and the warriors have had a standout year so far.


Lebron should never get another MVP, the way he has jumped from one stacked team to another.

F.ck Lequeen.

[aj1987]

Curry has the MVP on lock and the warriors have had a standout year so far.


Lebron should never get another MVP, the way he has jumped from one stacked team to another.

F.ck Lequeen.
You mad, pedo? :oldlol:

[AnaheimLakers24]

Finals MVP > MVP.

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2818293/takethathaters.gif
Yup http://dimemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/USATSI_7955953.jpg

[poido123]

You mad, pedo? :oldlol:



You're still a pathetic Lebron nutrider, even after he layed a big shit on your team and left?


Showing dat loyalty Lebron could never do. :oldlol:

[aj1987]

You're still a pathetic Lebron nutrider, even after he layed a big shit on your team and left?


Showing dat loyalty Lebron could never do. :oldlol:
Pedo still mad. :oldlol:

[poido123]

Pedo still mad. :oldlol:


Aj Stays losing. Resorts to pathetic "sounds like" insults


:oldlol:

[ArbitraryWater]

And Durant took a dump on him and the Heat the first time, nowhere during the season one or two game changed the tide. Durant led everyone from the beginning to the end cause they needed him to do so with Westbrook missing such a great chunk of the season.
I'm not sure why I keep taking you serious while it's evident you are a brainless stan.

Nope, you can lie as much as you want, likely comes from being a KD ******ger, but he didn't... LeBron overtook him as MVP leader in February.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=326663

Edit: Lmao, you even made a thread highlighting LeBron going from 1 to 2 again yet here you are lying like a little kid to his parents :roll: :roll:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=328959

[They Won]

No way LeBron wins it this year.

[Mass Debator]

He needs a top 2 seed if the league wants to be consistent.

[Rose'sACL]

he will need top 2 seed to win it this year while continuing to play like he is playing right now.

[Nash]

he's the mvp. his team literally can't win without him and goes on winning streaks with him.
the stats he already has

[Heavincent]

49 or 50 wins is definitely not enough to win MVP. Period.

[DMAVS41]

Going to take Curry getting hurt or the Warriors completely falling off.

I could definitely see Lebron get it over Harden if the Cavs continue to play this way, but besting Curry is going to be really hard.

[HEAT111]

LeBron would've to do something better than the 12-13 MVP run. If he wants it this year to surpass Curry. And in order for him to get by Harden is showing up in Houston.

Steph Curry still has some miles ahead of LeBron this year.

[dunksby]

Nope, you can lie as much as you want, likely comes from being a KD ******ger, but he didn't... LeBron overtook him as MVP leader in February.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=326663

Edit: Lmao, you even made a thread highlighting LeBron going from 1 to 2 again yet here you are lying like a little kid to his parents :roll: :roll:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=328959
Lol one week over the whole season, man who am I wasting my time with.

[ArbitraryWater]

Lol one week over the whole season, man who am I wasting my time with.

http://i.imgur.com/seh6p.gif

[Paul George 24]

he's the mvp. his team literally can't win without him and goes on winning streaks with him.
the stats he already has

spurs >>>>>>>>>>>> cavs :banana:

[Dragic4Life]

Agreed.

[Pointguard]

If the Cavs continue playing like this, he'll be right at the top of the discussion again. He is back to being the best player in the league and I'm not sure it is particularly close at the moment.

Note that I was probably his biggest critic a few weeks back. He has been phenomenal.
Got to admit I almost forgot how good he was. His not eating messed with him a bit. He knows how to remedy himself.

[Roundball_Rock]

49 or 50 wins is definitely not enough to win MVP. Period.

It was for MJ and KAJ.

[NBAplayoffs2001]

Grow a set, mods, and ban this fcking rodent along with his alts.
:coleman: agreed

[gilalizard]

Got to admit I almost forgot how good he was. His not eating messed with him a bit. He knows how to remedy himself.

Well, he probably knows who to go to for a "remedy". :D

[Bigsmoke]

No way.

[Doranku]

It was for MJ and KAJ.

Those were both a long, long time ago.

[navy]

He's coming.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

1. Curry
2. Harden
3. LeBron

LeBron is on pace to be #1 within 3 games.

[Magic 32]

Lebron stans needs the MVP so bad, becaue they know what bad is coming for them (the postseason).

You can feel their desperation.

[aj1987]

Lebron stans needs the MVP so bad, becaue they know what bad is coming for them (the postseason).
Where he has the same number of MVP's as Kobe and has better stats than him in every major statistical category (except FT% and TOV's). :cheers:

[ArbitraryWater]

He coming.. Kobe fans scared.
































http://thebloodtheatre.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/The-Shining-jack-nicholson-26184695-1200-928.jpg

[Magic 32]

Where he has the same number of MVP's as Kobe and has better stats than him in every major statistical category (except FT% and TOV's). :cheers:

Stacked the deck in a historically awful conference and ends up 2/5, owned by two roleplayers along the way.

Half of his FMVP's won on the basis of one a game (after being carried and literally saved through 6 games).

But hey, awesome stats again the 38-42 Bucks. Makes for mighty good playoffs averges.

Sure he will own the first three rounds again.

[ArbitraryWater]

Stacked the deck in a historically awful conference and ends up 2/5, owned by two roleplayers along the way.

Half of his FMVP's won on the basis of one a game (after being carried and literally saved through 6 games).

But hey, awesome stats again the 38-42 Bucks. Makes for mighty good playoffs averges.

Sure he will own the first three rounds again.


http://thebloodtheatre.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/The-Shining-jack-nicholson-26184695-1200-928.jpg

[Lebron23]

5th MVP. Here we come.

[aj1987]

Stacked the deck in a historically awful conference and ends up 2/5, owned by two roleplayers along the way.

Half of his FMVP's won on the basis of one a game (after being carried and literally saved through 6 games).

But hey, awesome stats again the 38-42 Bucks. Makes for mighty good playoffs averges.

Sure he will own the first three rounds again.
Yeah, lets not forget that LeBron led the team in almost all major statistic categories. Lets also forget that Wade was injured, Bosh was injured, the lack of a proper center/front count, etc.. Yeah, lets forget about all that.

Yay! the ****ing Nuggets, Jazz, Rockets, Suns!!!! ****ing hell! The '09 Heat would've steam rolled past those sorry excuses for teams.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Magic 32]

Yeah, lets not forget that LeBron led the team in almost all major statistic categories. Lets also forget that Wade was injured, Bosh was injured, the lack of a proper center/front count, etc.. Yeah, lets forget about all that.

Yay! the ****ing Nuggets, Jazz, Rockets, Suns!!!! ****ing hell! The '09 Heat would've steam rolled past those sorry excuses for teams.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

50+ teams > under .500 teams

2007-08 Denver Nuggets Record: 50-32
2007-08 Utah Jazz Record: 54-28
2007-08 San Antonio Spurs Record: 56-26
2008-09 Houston Rockets Record: 53-29
2008-09 Denver Nuggets Record: 54-28
2008-09 Orlando Magic Record: 59-23
2009-10 Oklahoma City Thunder Record: 50-32
2009-10 Utah Jazz Record: 53-29
2009-10 Phoenix Suns Record: 54-28
2009-10 Boston Celtics Record: 50-32

How many did Lebron beat in his playoff career?

I forget.

[ArbitraryWater]

Yeah, lets not forget that LeBron led the team in almost all major statistic categories. Lets also forget that Wade was injured, Bosh was injured, the lack of a proper center/front count, etc.. Yeah, lets forget about all that.

Yay! the ****ing Nuggets, Jazz, Rockets, Suns!!!! ****ing hell! The '09 Heat would've steam rolled past those sorry excuses for teams.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Don't talk shit on the Aaron Brooks Rockets and Boozer Jazz :no:
lol

[riseagainst]

50+ teams > under .500 teams

2007-08 Denver Nuggets Record: 50-32
2007-08 Utah Jazz Record: 54-28
2007-08 San Antonio Spurs Record: 56-26
2008-09 Houston Rockets Record: 53-29
2008-09 Denver Nuggets Record: 54-28
2008-09 Orlando Magic Record: 59-23
2009-10 Oklahoma City Thunder Record: 50-32
2009-10 Utah Jazz Record: 53-29
2009-10 Phoenix Suns Record: 54-28
2009-10 Boston Celtics Record: 50-32

How many did Lebron beat in his playoff career?

I forget.

my god.... that's alot of 50 win teams.

[Magic 32]

my god.... that's alot of 50 win teams.

Lebron record against 50+ teams is 5-7

Kobe's is 24-7 :roll: :roll: :roll:

[JT123]

Lebron record against 50+ teams is 5-7

Kobe's is 24-7 :roll: :roll: :roll:
Kobe stans still trying to use Shaq's accomplishments as Kobe's. :oldlol: How many 50 win teams has Kobe beaten without a Hall of Fame big man?

[Magic 32]

Kobe stans still trying to use Shaq's accomplishments as Kobe's. :oldlol: How many 50 win teams has Kobe beaten without a Hall of Fame big man?

10-4 without Shaq. :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Droid101]

10-4 without Shaq. :roll: :roll: :roll:
JT with the loss, as per usual.

[Relinquish]

10-4 without Shaq. :roll: :roll: :roll:

How about without Shaq and Pau, like he clearly said (without a HOF big man)? :confusedshrug:

[aj1987]

50+ teams > under .500 teams

2007-08 Denver Nuggets Record: 50-32
2007-08 Utah Jazz Record: 54-28
2007-08 San Antonio Spurs Record: 56-26
2008-09 Houston Rockets Record: 53-29
2008-09 Denver Nuggets Record: 54-28
2008-09 Orlando Magic Record: 59-23
2009-10 Oklahoma City Thunder Record: 50-32
2009-10 Utah Jazz Record: 53-29
2009-10 Phoenix Suns Record: 54-28
2009-10 Boston Celtics Record: 50-32

How many did Lebron beat in his playoff career?

I forget.
:roll: @ beating the Thuggets, Suns, and the Jazz.


Are you gonna ignore the FACT that LeBron beat Pierce, Duncan, Manu, KG, TP, KD, WB, Harden, Allen, Rondo, Melo, George, Deron, etc.. Oh, and he did it with an injured Wade as his 2nd best player. Lets not act like some of those teams could even stop LeBron.

Deal with it, kid. LeBron at 29 (yeah, not even 30) is higher than Kobrick on the all time list.

[Lebronxrings]

this thread still going?

Im not gonna read the posts in this thread cuz i know what my response is

Lebron >Kobrick

[Showtime2001]

2/5

[Bandito]

How about without Shaq and Pau, like he clearly said (without a HOF big man)? :confusedshrug:
That's a 2 1/2 year margin:facepalm

[Magic 32]

http://i.minus.com/iNyls4XWvdsh.gif

[AnaheimLakers24]

2/5
5> 2*
those specific numbers are haunting to bran stans

[Lebronxrings]

brb getting cavs record without lebron...