When's Kawhi gonna start showing why he was FMVP?

[Hey Yo]

He's been pretty ordinary this year after about 30 regular season games.

Will he turn it on as the season goes on or is this the Kawhi we're going to get?

[navy]

He's a role player who got hot from Pop's system. Dont expect too much from him stat wise but the impact is clearly there. That said he's the best player on a proven team.

[CavaliersFTW]

He showed why he was FMVP in the Finals he earned FMVP.

[HurricaneKid]

He had that eye thing at the beginning of the season and then had the terrible thumb injury. And the Spurs have still completely bounced back once he returned.

[La Frescobaldi]

how did you forget the Spurs are a team? they haven't had a 'star' player i.e., iso ballhog in years.

[Droid101]

He showed why he was FMVP in the Finals he earned FMVP.
/thread

[Genaro]

He had an eye injury then a hand injury, he didn't get his rhythm yet.

[buddha]

he can't play LebRon every night.

[Hey Yo]

He showed why he was FMVP in the Finals he earned FMVP.
But then major hype posting ensued about his future game for the upcoming/current season.

Not seeing it, yet.

[r0drig0lac]

best perimeter defender in the league
best rebounder among small forwards

*while Tim and Manu are playing your score will not increase dramatically

[r0drig0lac]

But then major hype posting ensued about his future game for the upcoming/current season.

Not seeing it, yet.
watch the team with Kawhi and without Kawhi is that you will understand their impact on the court

[toxicxr6]

19 points
14 rebounds
3 steals
2 assists
1 block

good night

what else do you expect :confusedshrug:

[La Frescobaldi]

19 points
14 rebounds
3 steals
2 assists
1 block

good night

what else do you expect :confusedshrug:

And always disrupting an offense whether in the set, improvised, or transition.

Within the context of the Spurs that is astoundingly great ball. That is a Duncan level statline.

[T_L_P]

Duncan and Kawhi carry this team. We aren't playing great team ball this season. Most of our role players could give a shit.

[fpliii]

Duncan and Kawhi carry this team. We aren't playing great team ball this season. Most of our role players could give a shit.
Danny Green?

[T_L_P]

Danny Green?

I mean more since Kawhi's return. In December it was all Danny, Cory and Tim.

Danny has been in Pop's doghouse lately because he can't seem to the hit the ocean at times and his defense, whilst still elite, hasn't been as sharp (neither has Tim's or Kawhi's to be honest so I can't be mad).

But yes, Kawhi, Tim and Danny have definitely been our top 3 players this year.

[navy]

Spurs just coasting.

[fpliii]

I mean more since Kawhi's return. In December it was all Danny, Cory and Tim.

Danny has been in Pop's doghouse lately because he can't seem to the hit the ocean at times and his defense, whilst still elite, hasn't been as sharp (neither has Tim's or Kawhi's to be honest so I can't be mad).

But yes, Kawhi, Tim and Danny have definitely been our top 3 players this year.
Gotcha. :cheers:

[CavaliersFTW]

But then major hype posting ensued about his future game for the upcoming/current season.

Not seeing it, yet.
So, after Kawhi's FMVP he was supposed to drop that whole ball-movement system in order to jack up ISO shots to improve personal stats?

[russwest0]

Whenever he faces LeBron on the big stage I guess.

I mean, you didn't expect JJ Barea and Jason Terry to miraculously become all star players just because they clowned on LeCramp on the biggest stage, did you?

[La Frescobaldi]

So, after Kawhi's FMVP he was supposed to drop that whole ball-movement system in order to jack up ISO shots to improve personal stats?

there were at least 3 times in that 4q where he started to force it knowing he could beat down the defense but caught himself being stupid and went back into the correct way of playing basketball:lol

[Paul George 24]

He's a role player who got hot from Pop's system. Dont expect too much from him stat wise but the impact is clearly there. That said he's the best player on a proven team.

u re moron :lol if u thought he is a role player and got hot from pop's system :roll:

[Paul George 24]

there were at least 3 times in that 4q where he started to force it knowing he could beat down the defense but caught himself being stupid and went back into the correct way of playing basketball:lol

leflop stans still mad................:lol

[T_L_P]

there were at least 3 times in that 4q where he started to force it knowing he could beat down the defense but caught himself being stupid and went back into the correct way of playing basketball:lol

Kawhi's been Isolating quite a bit the past 5-6 games...kind of ignoring open shooters...and he's not great at it.

I don't mind it though. The Regular Season is about improvement and chemistry building as far as I'm concerned.

So ISO away, Kiwi. As long as you aren't terrible at it.

[LoneyROY7]

best perimeter defender in the league
best rebounder among small forwards

*while Tim and Manu are playing your score will not increase dramatically

Timmy's averaging 15 ppg and Manu's averaging 12 ppg. Hardly guys that should hold any teammate back scoring-wise.

[BuffaloBill]

19 points
14 rebounds
3 steals
2 assists
1 block

good night

what else do you expect :confusedshrug:


This, but his biggest asset is clearly his defense

[Droid101]

Whenever he faces LeBron on the big stage I guess.

I mean, you didn't expect JJ Barea and Jason Terry to miraculously become all star players just because they clowned on LeCramp on the biggest stage, did you?
:roll:

[I<3NBA]

i read some stats earlier that showed the Spurs offensive and defensive rating was better when Kawhi was on the floor.

[Mr. Jabbar]

in the finals, obviously..

[Mr. Jabbar]

Whenever he faces LeBron on the big stage I guess.

I mean, you didn't expect JJ Barea and Jason Terry to miraculously become all star players just because they clowned on LeCramp on the biggest stage, did you?

damn

[shadow]

whenever another 5 game fluke happens.

[rmt]

whenever another 5 game fluke happens.

He performed at a very high level in 3 of the most pressure filled games of the basketball season (and in the previous Finals too) - don't think that's a fluke.

[tragicbronson]

Whenever he faces LeBron on the big stage I guess.

I mean, you didn't expect JJ Barea and Jason Terry to miraculously become all star players just because they clowned on LeCramp on the biggest stage, did you?

:lol

[Quickening]

He got hot in the finals and still only averaged 18, 6 and 2... Spurs have lots of good players, no top ten players so thats why he won FMVP. Winning FMVP does't automatically mean you're a superstar, or have top ten production.

People act like he was a defensive god in the finals... Lebron averaged 28, 8 and 4 on 57% from the field and 52% from 3, he hardly shut him down.

[Rose'sACL]

He got hot in the finals and still only averaged 18, 6 and 2... Spurs have lots of good players, no top ten players so thats why he won FMVP. Winning FMVP does't automatically mean you're a superstar, or have top ten production.

People act like he was a defensive god in the finals... Lebron averaged 28, 8 and 4 on 57% from the field and 52% from 3, he hardly shut him down.
butler is the best lebron defender, not kawhi.

[BuffaloBill]

http://i.imgur.com/CPYEit4.jpg

[atljonesbro]

Leonard is most definitely very overrated. He's a good player but he isn't even close to a superstar. Idk how people even came up with that absurd notion anyways.

[rmt]

No one (not even Leonard) knows what his ceiling is because he's never been allowed to be a #1 scoring option. He's had to score within the Spurs' system - taking 3 pters or cleaning up on the boards - rarely did he iso or take his own shot. Seems like Pop's experimenting with that now - but he has a long way to go before he gets used to shouldering more of the scoring load. In the meantime, his elite defense and rebounding are still there.

[Mr Exlax]

He's not the first role player to win a FMVP. You just have to be in the right position for only a week or two to get it. Credit goes to him, but more should go to the Spurs system and how bad the Miami Heat gameplan was.

[AnaheimLakers24]

How does it feel knowing this average role player outplayed bran :lol
actually yall should be used to it. I meam he did get outplayed by terry and jj

[riseagainst]

He showed why he was FMVP in the Finals he earned FMVP.

/thread

[aj1987]

Whenever he faces LeBron on the big stage I guess.

I mean, you didn't expect JJ Barea and Jason Terry to miraculously become all star players just because they clowned on LeCramp on the biggest stage, did you?
The **** are you blathering about, idiot? Barea went from 10/2/4 in the RS to 9/2/3 (on 38/33/71) in the Finals. Dropped 11/3/3 on 48/46/88 against the Servant though. Terry averaged 2 points more than what his did in the RS though. Got ridiculously hot in the final 2 games though.

[Artillery]

Leonard's the 2nd most impactful player in the NBA after Lebron according to this year's RAPM:

http://stats-for-the-nba.appspot.com/ratings/RAPM_2015.html

Lebron has the highest offensive impact in the league.
Leonard has the highest defensive impact.

Lebron:
5.1 - Off
0.9 - Def
6.0 - Total

Leonard:
1.9 - Off
4.0 - Def
5.9 - Total

[jzek]

He's like LeBron - he coasts in the regular season and turns it up in the playoffs.

[russwest0]

The **** are you blathering about, idiot? Barea went from 10/2/4 in the RS to 9/2/3 (on 38/33/71) in the Finals. Dropped 11/3/3 on 48/46/88 against the Servant though. Terry averaged 2 points more than what his did in the RS though. Got ridiculously hot in the final 2 games though.

A LeBron stan trying to formulate an argument using nothing but raw stats from the box score. :lol

Never change, ISH

[Magic 32]

He's like LeBron - he coasts in the regular season and turns it up in the playoffs.

Lebron has yet to win when he "coasts".

He should talk to Kobe about that (09/10). He can thank him for the 2 MVP's at the same time.

[Quickening]

Lebron has yet to win when he "coasts".

He should talk to Kobe about that (09/10). He can thank him for the 2 MVP's at the same time.

Yes Kobe shooting 6 for 24 in game 7 and Lakers still winning, coasting at its best. Almost as if he wasn't that important :lol

[SourGrapes]

Yes Kobe shooting 6 for 24 in game 7 and Lakers still winning, coasting at its best. Almost as if he wasn't that important :lol

Every perimeter player shot poorly that game. The defense was crazy. Obviously you look at box scores, or if you don't, have no clue what you're watching

[Ruler]

He is absolutely living up to his hype. His net rating is something like +11 when he's on the court.
He's the best perimeter defender in the league.
Best rebounding small forward in the league.
Best small forward at playing passing lanes and getting on ball steals
Coast to coast threat
Spaces the floor for teammates
Draws double teams
Shuts down the other teams' best player

He's just as good if not better than last years Paul George. He's not their number one scoring option so he doesn't get the same PPG. Only area George has the advantage in (and just barely) is passing. However, Kawhi doesn't need to be a flashy passer. He posts up and finds the open man.
Since he came back from his hand injury, he's averaging something like 16 PPG, 10 RPG, 3 APG, 2.5 SPG. You tell me that isn't good for a number 2 or 3 option on the defending championship team.

[keep-itreal]

glorified shane battier

[Tycriss]

https://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/lebronkawhi.gif

[riseagainst]

https://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/lebronkawhi.gif

:roll: :roll:

[La Frescobaldi]

He is absolutely living up to his hype. His net rating is something like +11 when he's on the court.
He's the best perimeter defender in the league.
Best rebounding small forward in the league.
Best small forward at playing passing lanes and getting on ball steals
Coast to coast threat
Spaces the floor for teammates
Draws double teams
Shuts down the other teams' best player

He's just as good if not better than last years Paul George. He's not their number one scoring option so he doesn't get the same PPG. Only area George has the advantage in (and just barely) is passing. However, Kawhi doesn't need to be a flashy passer. He posts up and finds the open man.
Since he came back from his hand injury, he's averaging something like 16 PPG, 10 RPG, 3 APG, 2.5 SPG. You tell me that isn't good for a number 2 or 3 option on the defending championship team.
Wow bold talk!!

repped

[Paul George 24]

He got hot in the finals and still only averaged 18, 6 and 2... Spurs have lots of good players, no top ten players so thats why he won FMVP. Winning FMVP does't automatically mean you're a superstar, or have top ten production.

People act like he was a defensive god in the finals... Lebron averaged 28, 8 and 4 on 57% from the field and 52% from 3, he hardly shut him down.

lebron scores when the game is over :lol

[Rose'sACL]

lebron scores when the game is over :lol
post facts to prove your point. it must not be hard given that quarter-wise breakdown is given plus play-by-play. a playoff game is only over if the other team is leading by 25 with 7 mins to go and so on.

[Bigsmoke]

16/8/2 is pretty damn good

[They Won]

Didn't he only recently come back from a lengthy injury? Give him time.

[Bigsmoke]

lebron scores when the game is over :lol

Weird enough, everybody was clowning him for not playing in the final 5 minutes in game 5 even the fact that the Heat were down by 16 points.

Can some of y'all just admit that y'all don't like him instead of cherry picking everything?

[riseagainst]

Weird enough, everybody was clowning him for not playing in the final 5 minutes in game 5 even the fact that the Heat were down by 16 points.

Can some of y'all just admit that y'all don't like him instead of cherry picking everything?


only thing cherry picking here are lebron's stats.