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keep-itreal
01-27-2015, 07:12 AM
Is he worth it?

RightTwoCensor
01-27-2015, 07:24 AM
Is Chandler Parsons worth the max?

T_L_P
01-27-2015, 07:24 AM
Undoubtedly if we're comparing him to the current climate (where Hayward, Irving and Parsons are max players).

If we're basing this strictly on talent/impact, I still think so. The only question I had before the season was chronic knee injuries. I think he's gotten over that now and his most recent injuries were isolated incidents.

He's not a franchise player, per se. I don't think a GM would 'build' a team around Kawhi Leonard. But he has a huge impact on the game and he can be the best player on a championship team.

RightTwoCensor
01-27-2015, 07:27 AM
James Harden is still on his first max. :bowdown:

JGXEN
01-27-2015, 07:39 AM
Yes.
1) He's a better player than Hayward and Parsons who got the max deals
2) Elite player who is probably the best man to man defender, elite rebounder, and has a consistent jump shot. Hard to find a player of such calibre in the league with the ability to play elite D and a consistent offensive threat as well.

UK2K
01-27-2015, 08:00 AM
He doesn't deserve the max any more than Parsons, but he'll get it because someone will pay it.

QuebecBaller
01-27-2015, 08:29 AM
In this NBA era, everybody deserves the max...

24-Inch_Chrome
01-27-2015, 08:49 AM
He doesn't deserve the max any more than Parsons, but he'll get it because someone will pay it.

He deserves it quite a bit more than Parsons.

I'm not sure if I'd give Leonard the max but if Parsons is getting it then there's definitely a case to be made. Based on what I think his upside will be, I'd give it to him, though part of that is the current climate of the NBA (Parsons, Irving, Hayward being max players).

Bigsmoke
01-27-2015, 09:20 AM
He has potential to be really good. he isn't a max player at the rate he is now but he certainly is better than Parsons and Brendan Haywood

BoNafidde
01-27-2015, 10:49 AM
Every decent player now gets a max contract. Players like lebron and KD should be getting double what Parsons and Kawhi get.

Rooster
01-27-2015, 04:21 PM
Nope. Overpaying guys usually does not work out. Unless you think the guy can be a franchise player then yes.

Stempel, HERB
01-27-2015, 04:25 PM
(where Hayward, Irving and Parsons are max players).



How do you shove Irving into that group? He's a soon to be 3 time all star.

Genaro
01-27-2015, 04:28 PM
In the current NBA yes I would.

In another scenario I would only if I already had a first option.

They Won
01-27-2015, 04:28 PM
I'd say pay him between Chandler Parsons and the max.

KungFuJoe
01-27-2015, 06:31 PM
Anyone who says NO is a stat whore or just plain doesn't know basketball.

Leonard is the guy that EVERY team wants. He's the glue guy that is sometimes AS important to the team than the superstar.

He's like a super rich man version of Derek Fisher.

He makes the right plays. Always plays smart. Clutch as hell and pressure situations don't bother him.

That, along with elite defense and being a very good rebounder. Is not an elite scorer but can score from a variety of ways...from the 3, in transition, off the drive, pull up jumpers, etc.

Give the man his money.

bdreason
01-27-2015, 06:35 PM
I need to see more.

hawksdogsbraves
01-27-2015, 06:49 PM
Definitely, it will be a bargain in 2 years anyway so just go ahead and do it.

LoneyROY7
01-27-2015, 09:25 PM
Absolutely. He couldn't be a more perfect fit on the Clippers.

Leroy Jetson
01-27-2015, 10:32 PM
Considering that he is the difference between the spurs being a .500 team and a contender, yes he is worth it. A lot of his contributions don't show up in the box score.

rmt
01-27-2015, 11:07 PM
If Parker is gonna be earning $15 million at age 36, then Leonard is definitely worth the max at age 23. He brings MUCH more to the table than Parker.

InsanityKills
01-27-2015, 11:08 PM
not in a million years due to injury history and being a system player who wouldn't succeed any where else. I speak the truf.

navy
01-27-2015, 11:08 PM
If Parker is gonna be earning $15 million at age 36, then Leonard is definitely worth the max at age 23. He brings MUCH more to the table than Parker.
What's Kawhi's max?

rmt
01-27-2015, 11:13 PM
What's Kawhi's max?

A max extension now projects to be worth $89,138,886 over five years. If Leonard re-signs in 2016, a five-year max contract projects to pay $117,233,535.

If the Spurs give Leonard a max extension now, based on the NBA

iamgine
01-27-2015, 11:44 PM
Would you give Kawhi Leonard the max?
yes


Is he worth it?
no

midatlantic09
01-27-2015, 11:48 PM
Undoubtedly if we're comparing him to the current climate (where Hayward, Irving and Parsons are max players).


No idea why you put Irving in the same category as those other two. Irving is undoubtedly a max player while the other two shouldn't be.

tpols
01-27-2015, 11:49 PM
Anyone who says NO is a stat whore or just plain doesn't know basketball.

Leonard is the guy that EVERY team wants. He's the glue guy that is sometimes AS important to the team than the superstar.

He's like a super rich man version of Derek Fisher.

He makes the right plays. Always plays smart. Clutch as hell and pressure situations don't bother him.

That, along with elite defense and being a very good rebounder. Is not an elite scorer but can score from a variety of ways...from the 3, in transition, off the drive, pull up jumpers, etc.

Give the man his money.
Fisher lol.. He's like the black AK47..easy max

Eric Cartman
01-27-2015, 11:53 PM
So much disrespect for the FMVP :facepalm

Of course he is worth the max, owning Lebron and KD in consecutive rounds last year wasn't enough? :confusedshrug:

T_L_P
01-27-2015, 11:58 PM
If Parker is gonna be earning $15 million at age 36, then Leonard is definitely worth the max at age 23. He brings MUCH more to the table than Parker.
:(

dreamwarrior
01-28-2015, 02:09 AM
He's putting up career highs while having an off year. Once he's fully healthy he's going to be Scottie Pippen 2.0

fragokota
01-28-2015, 07:58 AM
So much disrespect for the FMVP :facepalm

Of course he is worth the max, owning Lebron and KD in consecutive rounds last year wasn't enough? :confusedshrug:

Tbh Leonard didn't own lebron last year. SAS were way better than the Heat, the best team won and Leonard was great and deserving FMVP. But lbj had a nice series as well, it was the team as a whole that underachieved last year in the finals.

Artillery
01-28-2015, 02:08 PM
If Parker is gonna be earning $15 million at age 36, then Leonard is definitely worth the max at age 23. He brings MUCH more to the table than Parker.

Not a good example seeing as Tony's overpaid. One of the rare mistakes from the Spurs front office. They should have waited one more year on Parker. Could have resigned him for cheap after the terrible season he's having this year.

houston
01-28-2015, 03:29 PM
no he doesn't

Burgz V2
01-28-2015, 04:33 PM
would i give it to him? yes.

Is he worth it? no, but Spurs need to retain a cornerstone for their next rebuild.

Should he get the max? if you go by the market value set by other wings, then I don't even see how this is debatable.

Not every player is WORTH the max. But their value might very well be, two entirely different things.

tamaraw08
01-28-2015, 06:56 PM
Nope. Overpaying guys usually does not work out. Unless you think the guy can be a franchise player then yes.

I think you are right, this reminds me of the Ariza deal from a few years back.
Ofcourse Kawhi is much better than Ariza but I hate the Parsons comparison bec I think Cuban would pay dearly for it esp if Ellis goes to another team.
Utah will suffer too.

Rooster
01-28-2015, 07:12 PM
I think you are right, this reminds me of the Ariza deal from a few years back.
Ofcourse Kawhi is much better than Ariza but I hate the Parsons comparison bec I think Cuban would pay dearly for it esp if Ellis goes to another team.
Utah will suffer too.

I only witness a few where a team overpay a certain player and it works out for the most of the lifeline of that contract. I think Deandre Jordan was one of them.

That's the thing, teams overpay players to get them and teams do the same so they can keep them. At the time it makes sense but after that , most of the time,teams regret it. Just look at the Brooklyn Nets.

The only good thing is nowadays max is like 5 years to keep your own player and 4 years to get someone. Teams are not paralyzed like it used to be.

midatlantic09
01-28-2015, 11:57 PM
Undoubtedly if we're comparing him to the current climate (where Hayward, Irving and Parsons are max players).


Shame on you for lumping Kyrie "55 on Dame Lillard" Irving in with guys like Hayward and Parsons!

Shame!

D-FENS
01-29-2015, 12:12 AM
Is he worth it?

Nope. He's a 15 and 7 kind of guy

JohnFreeman
01-29-2015, 12:16 AM
I think the Spurs will lowball and he will sign

keep-itreal
02-21-2015, 03:03 PM
After watching couple games, I don't think he's worth the max.

His offense is not good at all.

:cheers:

greatest-ever
02-21-2015, 03:18 PM
Hell no imo.

Leonard is not a superstar, he's barely even a star.

Basketbolero
02-21-2015, 03:20 PM
The current max will be really good value for him in 2 years, barring injuries.

navy
02-21-2015, 04:45 PM
If you are a team like the Spurs you sign him to the max no question as his defense and rebounding is elite and he gives a scoring boost, his impact on that team is undeniable.

Any other team? Hell no. Especially not one where you expect him to be a first option. If you are already strapped financially and needed a missing piece, like the Clippers, Id offer him the max though.