Do you think the wave of hipsters ruined your city?

[NBAplayoffs2001]

Having grown up around NYC, it became a lot different since the early 2000s. A lot more hipsters. On top of making NYC very expensive and the huge influx of hipsters, I really felt it's a way different city then when I used to visit the city as a little kid in the late 1990s (Manhattan specifically). Yes, the city has become safer but it lacks the vibrancy.

I remember visiting LA in the late 1990s as well, barely remember it but it also was very vibrant (in a different way). I wasn't a huge fan of it as a city to live in but it definitely was a great spot to vacation in.

[JtotheIzzo]

I'll be interested to see what happens to the craft beer market once being a hipster becomes lame and drinking hard to find IPAs becomes a bit cliche.

[Knicks101]

Yeah, we need another crack epidemic.

[JohnnySic]

Having grown up around NYC, it became a lot different since the early 2000s. A lot more hipsters. On top of making NYC very expensive and the huge influx of hipsters, I really felt it's a way different city then when I used to visit the city as a little kid in the late 1990s (Manhattan specifically). Yes, the city has become safer but it lacks the vibrancy.

I remember visiting LA in the late 1990s as well, barely remember it but it also was very vibrant (in a different way). I wasn't a huge fan of it as a city to live in but it definitely was a great spot to vacation in.
You're confusing hipsters with yuppies.

[DukeDelonte13]

I hate when you wanna eat at some bar or restaurant and the entire staff are douchey hipsters. Ironic tattoos, beards, thick rimmed glasses, gauged ears etc. It's like these places feel like they need authentic hipster wait staff to legitimize the quality of their food.

[JohnnySic]

One time I went into a trendy bar restaurant and ordered a coffee. The bartender actually said "two and a half" instead of "two fifty" when charging me. I never went in there again.

[Dresta]

NYC has been completely ruined over the past 20 years.

[SugarHill]

One time I went into a trendy bar restaurant and ordered a coffee. The bartender actually said "two and a half" instead of "two fifty" when charging me. I never went in there again.
:roll:

[Jailblazers7]

Nope, I don't mind hipsters. They end up bringing in quality local establishments which is a positive imo. Hipsters are kind of isolated in Pittsburgh so they are easy to avoid if needed.

[DeuceWallaces]

You're confusing hipsters with yuppies.

They're the same thing, different time. Overly pretentious and trendy. They were called hipsters in the 40-60s, yuppies in the 80's and 90's, and hipsters again with the turn of the century. They've always dressed differently, but the attitudes and ideals that drive the sub-culture have always been the same.

As to the original question, with everything there are pluses and minuses. You can make a case for either with gentrification.

[NBAplayoffs2001]

They're the same thing, different time. Overly pretentious and trendy. They were called hipsters in the 40-60s, yuppies in the 80's and 90's, and hipsters again with the turn of the century. They've always dressed differently, but the attitudes and ideals that drive the sub-culture have always been the same.

As to the original question, with everything there are pluses and minuses. You can make a case for either with gentrification.

True... far less crime.

[DeuceWallaces]

I would say different kind of crime. Likely less violent crime if a low income area is gentrified (typical).

[NBAplayoffs2001]

I would say different kind of crime. Likely less violent crime if a low income area is gentrified (typical).

Surprisingly, Bed Stuy in Brooklyn's crime hasn't changed much in the past 10 or so years even with gentrification. It's still a high rate of crime. Not nearly as violent though as Brownsville.

Lower East Side in Manhattan though is wayyyy safer than it was pre-gentrification.

[ace23]

Yes, "hipsters" and their "ironic tattoos, beards" have singlehandedly ruined Houston.

:roll:

Never understood the hate surrounding this subculture. Maybe I'm too young. Most "hipsters" (which does not mean much as the descriptions I've seen are pretty standard style for young adults) I know are cool. Haha

[~primetime~]

They're the same thing, different time. Overly pretentious and trendy. They were called hipsters in the 40-60s, yuppies in the 80's and 90's, and hipsters again with the turn of the century. They've always dressed differently, but the attitudes and ideals that drive the sub-culture have always been the same.

As to the original question, with everything there are pluses and minuses. You can make a case for either with gentrification.
You don't have to be upper class to be a hipster...'Yuppie' is specifically referencing young rich peeps. Young-Upper - "yuppie"

Yuppies drive BMWs and follow the stock market...hipsters get tattoos, grow beards, stay trendy, etc

[JohnnySic]

You don't have to be upper class to be a hipster...'Yuppie' is specifically referencing young rich peeps. Young-Upper - "yuppie"

Yuppies drive BMWs and follow the stock market...hipsters get tattoos, grow beards, stay trendy, etc
Yuppie stands for young urban professional.

True, they are not the same, although you can be both at the same time. More likely though, a yuppie is more ambitious and wears a suit and tie and a hipster is often a slacker and dresses like a bum. :oldlol:

[~primetime~]

Yuppie stands for young urban professional.

True, they are not the same, although you can be both at the same time. More likely though, a yuppie is more ambitious and wears a suit and tie and a hipster is often a slacker and dresses like a bum. :oldlol:
right you can be both at the same time...but a hipster could just be a cashier at Starbucks, a yuppie really can't.

When I think of "yuppie" I usually picture some 25 year old working on Wall Street making 6 figures.

[DeuceWallaces]

You don't have to be upper class to be a hipster...'Yuppie' is specifically referencing young rich peeps. Young-Upper - "yuppie"

Yuppies drive BMWs and follow the stock market...hipsters get tattoos, grow beards, stay trendy, etc

No. It's urban, not upper, as stated by Johnny.

Both are/were trendy and pretentious. They are driven by the same ideals. Just as I said. Modern hipsters are slightly more driven by pretentiousness and less so by education and upward mobility.

The themes in American Psycho, 30 Something, etc. are in line with modern hipsters. You just exchange Genesis for Death Cab, Armani for Beards, Tats, and ironic-historic driven fashion, and European Autos for fixies.

From a sociological perspective they are similar, and in some cases, identical social movements.

[~primetime~]

Okay young urban pro, but It's specifically in reference to someone that makes good money and is young.

YUPPIE:

A yuppie (short for "young urban professional" or "young upwardly-mobile professional")[1][2] is defined by one source as being "a young college-educated adult who has a job that pays a lot of money and who lives and works in or near a large city".[3] This acronym first came into use in the early 1980s.

Yuppism... is not definable entirely by income or class. Rather, it is a late-20th century cultural phenomenon of self-absorbed young professionals, earning good pay, enjoying the cultural attractions of sophisticated urban life and thought, and generally out of touch with, indeed antithetical to, most of the challenges and concerns of a far less well-off and more parochial Middle America. For the yuppie male a well-paying job in law, finance, academia or consulting in a cultural hub, hip fashion, cool appearance, studied poise, elite education, proper recreation and fitness and general proximity to liberal-thinking elites, especially of the more rarefied sort in the arts, are the mark of a real man.[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuppie


I'm not even sure their ideals are very similar...Genesis is main stream pop rock, something that a hipster prides on distancing from. Yuppies are out of touch with those less fortunate, hipsters try to act in touch, yuppies care about name brands, hipsters try to dress like bums, etc.

[dunksby]

Is sweggeh banned or something? When I opened this thread I was sure sweggeh would be here cussing the shit out of hipsters and dickheads

[DeuceWallaces]

Genesis is not main stream pop rock, but that's besides the point.

One more time, but slowly and bigger so you might understand.

THEY ARE DEFINED BY PRETENTIOUSNESS AND BEING TRENDY.

All hipster sub-cultures dating back to the 1940s are based on this. The labels and image will change but the drivers will remain the same.

Like saying Double Indemnity and Basic Instinct aren't both noir films because one is in color and Michael Douglas is wearing pleated pants.

[CavaliersFTW]

I went to an bar that didn't have a sign and was hidden underground (literally, it is underground) called "La Cave Duvin" in Coventry (Cleveland's infamous Hipster neighborhood). I do enjoy variety of beer, so I was told to go there by word of mouth. The place was dark as ****, lit by candles and they sold nothing but craft brews and wines nobody has ever heard of.

My friend in earnest asked for a bud light and the hipster bartender laughed at him. I hate hipsters. **** that place.

[~primetime~]

Genesis is not main stream pop rock, but that's besides the point.
At the 1993 American Music Awards on 25 January, Genesis won the award for Favorite Pop/Rock Band, Duo, or Group


THEY ARE DEFINED BY PRETENTIOUSNESS AND BEING TRENDY.

I just gave you the definition for yuppie...you should read it and realize they have differences

[KevinNYC]

I went to an bar that didn't have a sign and was hidden underground (literally, it is underground) called "La Cave Duvin" in Coventry (Cleveland's infamous Hipster neighborhood). I do enjoy variety of beer, so I was told to go there by word of mouth. The place was dark as ****, lit by candles and they sold nothing but craft brews and wines nobody has ever heard of.

My friend in earnest asked for a bud light and the hipster bartender laughed at him. I hate hipsters. **** that place.
Why did you do your friend wrong like that?

[CavaliersFTW]

Why did you do your friend wrong like that?
What did I do? My friend can ask for whatever he wants, I'll back him up before I side with some hipster bartender. Bartender could have just said "we don't have bud light but the closest thing we have is ____ "

I also run into them a lot at Ray's Indoor MTB park in Cleveland. Never heard of Cleveland's indoor mountain bike park? That's exactly why Hipsters have overrun the ****ing place. :mad: they show up on their damn BMX/park bikes. Hipsters can vanish from this earth for all I care.

[KingBeasley08]

Hipsters are horrible people

[ROCSteady]

I was just in New York City, in every borough and can say that the hipsters def made Brooklyn a more chill place to hang

[~primetime~]

To me a yuppie is a white consultant who derives most of his identity from his job. They are self absorbed make good money and tell you about it.they are generally cvnts. Fashion varies from suit and tie to bro-y to hipstery


A hipster I think of vegan bike riding artist who can be a huge cvnt or the nicest dude

There can be overlap but generally they are quite different
Exactly

[NBAplayoffs2001]

Think nyc is a great example

Brooklyn hipsters
Manhattan yuppies

Spot on :applause:. I just wish Manhattan wasn't so expensive.

[NBAplayoffs2001]

I was just in New York City, in every borough and can say that the hipsters def made Brooklyn a more chill place to hang

Made Brooklyn a helluva lot safer with their presence.

[KevinNYC]

Made Brooklyn a helluva lot safer with their presence.
That's not how it happened. Brooklyn became safer and thus hipsters felt more comfortable living in neighborhoods they would not have before.

[DukeDelonte13]

I went to an bar that didn't have a sign and was hidden underground (literally, it is underground) called "La Cave Duvin" in Coventry (Cleveland's infamous Hipster neighborhood). I do enjoy variety of beer, so I was told to go there by word of mouth. The place was dark as ****, lit by candles and they sold nothing but craft brews and wines nobody has ever heard of.

My friend in earnest asked for a bud light and the hipster bartender laughed at him. I hate hipsters. **** that place.


Coventry? ehh, i think Tremont and Lakewood are more hisptery. Coventry to me is rich east side high schoolers and John Carroll students. I've never been to that place you mentioned though. I remember one time seeing Sasha Pavlovic at City and East. :oldlol:

But I despise beer snobbery. F*ck that. It's like a mortal sin that you don't feel like drinking a liquified hoppy as f*ck loaf of bread at some places.

[KevinNYC]

Surprisingly, Bed Stuy in Brooklyn's crime hasn't changed much in the past 10 or so years even with gentrification.

Sure it has
http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/downloads/pdf/crime_statistics/cs079pct.pdf

It's down 30% in the last 15 years and 66% lower since 1993.

[KingBeasley08]

What did hipster ever do to you, you yuppie scum!?
rather be a yuppie than a modern day wanna be hippie

[Knicks101]

How the f*ck is a hipster a modern day hippie?

[NBAplayoffs2001]

Sure it has
http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/downloads/pdf/crime_statistics/cs079pct.pdf

It's down 30% in the last 15 years and 66% lower since 1993.

I just feel it's still pretty crime ridden despite the constant effort to fix it. I have heard the Clinton/Bed Stuy area isn't making the progress that was projected with gentrification.

Another place that drastically improved is Central Harlem. They used to have 110 per 100,000 homicide rate in 1990. Harlem in the 1970s/1980s was the worst area in all of NYC IMO although the South Bronx was just as crazy. So many drug/gangsters, they were starting to work coinciding with the Mafia too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k-1oi__LoA

Currently watching this documentary. It's crazy how dangerous NYC was in the mid 1970s to walk around in.
Harlem is still not a place where I would want to live especially near their housing projects while Lower East Side, I wouldn't mind living about 5 or so blocks away from their housing projects. Lower East Side still has a gritty feeling to it too but as long as you make sure you keep your wits its fine. I have walked alone around LES late at night and felt completely safe. Can't say the same about Harlem.

[dunksby]

How the f*ck is a hipster a modern day hippie?
Hipsters are like annoying punk teenagers, the difference is that hipsters include a large a group of adults whose mental growth was interrupted to various reasons when they were 15.

[Knicks101]

Why does the way other people choose to live their lives bother you guys so much? Who f*cking cares?

[DeuceWallaces]

Hipsters and hippies truly have nothing to do with each other.

[Knicks101]

He dont know, all he knows is how to push pencils

Pencil pushing ass, pencil necked geek ass, pencil dick having ass.

[Knicks101]

Hipsters and hippies truly have nothing to do with each other.

Both start with hip, got e and s as well.

[Knicks101]

Tell me you don't hate it when a boy ain't strong

You right. Straight up tell a skinny fat n*gga "what is you doing with your life?" I take that post back.

[Derka]

I went to an bar that didn't have a sign and was hidden underground (literally, it is underground) called "La Cave Duvin" in Coventry (Cleveland's infamous Hipster neighborhood). I do enjoy variety of beer, so I was told to go there by word of mouth. The place was dark as ****, lit by candles and they sold nothing but craft brews and wines nobody has ever heard of.

My friend in earnest asked for a bud light and the hipster bartender laughed at him. I hate hipsters. **** that place.

That's the thing I can't stand about the hipster thing.

I hate Bud Light, but if I'm running a bar and I know how popular Bud/Miller/Coors beers are out there...I try to stock a few craft lagers so I can say "No, Bud Light's not something we carry here but I DO have these killer lagers you might want to try if you like Bud Light."

Being some pretentious douche and laughing at a guy who wants to give you money for what you sell is f*cking lame. Like he's just SO F*CKING COOL because he won't lower himself to selling Bud Light.

[NBAplayoffs2001]

That's the thing I can't stand about the hipster thing.

I hate Bud Light, but if I'm running a bar and I know how popular Bud/Miller/Coors beers are out there...I try to stock a few craft lagers so I can say "No, Bud Light's not something we carry here but I DO have these killer lagers you might want to try if you like Bud Light."

Being some pretentious douche and laughing at a guy who wants to give you money for what you sell is f*cking lame. Like he's just SO F*CKING COOL because he won't lower himself to selling Bud Light.

Yeah that's weird. I usually stay with the Yuenglings at bars. Usually do hard drinks. Some craft beers are ridiculously good IMO but I usually just ask the bartender which ones he recommends at one of my favorite local bars and usually I end up choosing stuff that I end up liking a lot.

[Knicks101]

At my bar I'd laugh at anyone ordering beer, regardless of brand.

[ItsMillerTime]

I went to an bar that didn't have a sign and was hidden underground (literally, it is underground) called "La Cave Duvin" in Coventry (Cleveland's infamous Hipster neighborhood). I do enjoy variety of beer, so I was told to go there by word of mouth. The place was dark as ****, lit by candles and they sold nothing but craft brews and wines nobody has ever heard of.

My friend in earnest asked for a bud light and the hipster bartender laughed at him. I hate hipsters. **** that place.

I get the bartender was being a douche, but your bro really thought a place like that would have Bud Light? Go to Applebee's if you want shitty beer.

[Jailblazers7]

That bartender could have thought your friend was making a joke to be honest. Going to a specialty beer place and ordering Bud Light could easily be taken as a joke and has probably be done before.

[NBAplayoffs2001]

That bartender could have thought your friend was making a joke to be honest. Going to a specialty beer place and ordering Bud Light could easily be taken as a joke and has probably be done before.

Or your friend lacks bar experience? :confusedshrug:

I remember ordering some crappy drink at a nice bar and the friends I went with pretty much changed my order for me. I forgot what I ordered but the bartender gave me a weird look and said "You sure?".... something along the lines of that.

So I don't think really think it was entirely rude for him to laugh, it could be definitely been seen as a joke. Took me 5-6 bars to really figure out the somewhat high-end drinks I liked.

[knickballer]

Hipsters can be annoying and overly pretentious but that being said I don't think they ruin any city and usually it's the opposite. Low crime, they like to go on their moral high-ground with limiting pollution and living green(obviously a good thing), aren't hateful people and try to act cultured.

They can be over the top though. For example if you go into some random hipster cafe in NY with some absurd name like the Rainforest Cafe you'll have bearded dudes with earrings on their lips talking about if the marxist revolution was a metaphor for feminism or something like that. My experience is alot of them are social justice warriors that are into very weird stuff.

[Knicks101]

Then have brakkus throw their ass out?

Brakkus toss 'em out and he never forget a face. They get banned for life.

[KevinNYC]

Harlem in the 1970s/1980s was the worst area in all of NYC IMO although the South Bronx was just as crazy. So many drug/gangsters, they were starting to work coinciding with the Mafia too.
White gangsters were working in Harlem decades before that. Dutch Schultz who was Jewish, after Prohibition took over the Harlem numbers racket from local blank bankers. Schultz was later murdered by the mob when he asked for permission to Thomas Dewey the special prosecutor. (Dewey later became governor and ran against FDR for President.) Bumpy Johnson, the famous black gangster cut a deal with Lucky Luciano that let the black numbers dealers operate as long as they paid their "tax" to the mob. The white gangsters advantage was they could get the cops to crack down on the blacks gangsters and that the black gangsters tended to be in smaller groups. So Johnson became the Genovese family's Man in Harlem.
Also East Harlem was basically completely Italian and it basically was the epicenter of the whole sale heroin trade in NYC. The street level dealers may have been black, but anybody who was dealing any weight was buying from the Italian Mob. Johnson was supposedly the guy who introduced heroin to Harlem. Claude Brown wrote in in his memoir about heroin flooding the streets in early 50's

http://aalbc.com/authors/manchild-in-the-promised-land.jpg


Currently watching this documentary. It's crazy how dangerous NYC was in the mid 1970s to walk around in.

New York was much more dangerous in the 1980's than the 1970's. The crack epidemic was much worse than the heroin epidemic. That documentary seems to have footage from the 1960's to the 1990's.

[DeuceWallaces]

I went to an bar that didn't have a sign and was hidden underground (literally, it is underground) called "La Cave Duvin" in Coventry (Cleveland's infamous Hipster neighborhood). I do enjoy variety of beer, so I was told to go there by word of mouth. The place was dark as ****, lit by candles and they sold nothing but craft brews and wines nobody has ever heard of.

My friend in earnest asked for a bud light and the hipster bartender laughed at him. I hate hipsters. **** that place.

Your friend is an idiot.

You don't go to Applebee's and ask for a Founders KBS, and you don't go to a high end bar and ask for a ****ing Bud Light. Just the same I don't go into a whiskey bar and order an Ole Grand Dad or get pissed at MiniBar in DC because they don't have ****ing tater-tots on the menu.

[DeuceWallaces]

Different forms of rebellion dont make groups different when the rebellion itself has no purpose.

Wrong thread jackass.

[El Kabong]

At the 1993 American Music Awards on 25 January, Genesis won the award for Favorite Pop/Rock Band, Duo, or Group

I just gave you the definition for yuppie...you should read it and realize they have differences
Using the award shows to define genres is useless. According to the Grammies Jethro Tull is a Hard Rock/Heavy Metal band.

[~primetime~]

Using the award shows to define genres is useless. According to the Grammies Jethro Tull is a Hard Rock/Heavy Metal band.
Eh, that sounds like an extreme example that isn't the norm.

Genesis was definitely mainstream music, it was all over MTV, the radio, and everything else. If it wasn't pop/rock then what was it?

[BasedTom]

I went to an bar that didn't have a sign and was hidden underground (literally, it is underground) called "La Cave Duvin" in Coventry (Cleveland's infamous Hipster neighborhood). I do enjoy variety of beer, so I was told to go there by word of mouth. The place was dark as ****, lit by candles and they sold nothing but craft brews and wines nobody has ever heard of.

My friend in earnest asked for a bud light and the hipster bartender laughed at him. I hate hipsters. **** that place.
I would laugh at your friend too. Bud lite and all that other shit is watered down piss. Hipster bs or not, drinking that crap past the age of 15 is an embarrassment.

[ALBballer]

I would laugh at your friend too. Bud lite and all that other shit is watered down piss. Hipster bs or not, drinking that crap past the age of 15 is an embarrassment.

Maybe his friend isn't a beer person or maybe he likes to drink "Watered down piss?" Who the **** cares, it's a bar and most bars sell domestic watered down piss. Personally I wouldn't drink bud light because most of American domestic beers contain high fructose corn syrup but who am I to judge? The bartender didn't have to act like an arrogant douche.

Generally I'm indifferent to hipsters, they are harmless people and they tend to promote local establishments.

[NBAplayoffs2001]

White gangsters were working in Harlem decades before that. Dutch Schultz who was Jewish, after Prohibition took over the Harlem numbers racket from local blank bankers. Schultz was later murdered by the mob when he asked for permission to Thomas Dewey the special prosecutor. (Dewey later became governor and ran against FDR for President.) Bumpy Johnson, the famous black gangster cut a deal with Lucky Luciano that let the black numbers dealers operate as long as they paid their "tax" to the mob. The white gangsters advantage was they could get the cops to crack down on the blacks gangsters and that the black gangsters tended to be in smaller groups. So Johnson became the Genovese family's Man in Harlem.
Also East Harlem was basically completely Italian and it basically was the epicenter of the whole sale heroin trade in NYC. The street level dealers may have been black, but anybody who was dealing any weight was buying from the Italian Mob. Johnson was supposedly the guy who introduced heroin to Harlem. Claude Brown wrote in in his memoir about heroin flooding the streets in early 50's

http://aalbc.com/authors/manchild-in-the-promised-land.jpg


New York was much more dangerous in the 1980's than the 1970's. The crack epidemic was much worse than the heroin epidemic. That documentary seems to have footage from the 1960's to the 1990's.

Yeah sometimes I read about the crack epidemic in NYC during 1988-1991. The city was just flat out dangerous. Crazy to think my parents worked in a heavy hit neighborhood throughout the late 80s and early 90s. Heck both of them have crazy stories about things they saw.

[D-FENS]

Okay young urban pro, but It's specifically in reference to someone that makes good money and is young.

YUPPIE:

A yuppie (short for "young urban professional" or "young upwardly-mobile professional")[1][2] is defined by one source as being "a young college-educated adult who has a job that pays a lot of money and who lives and works in or near a large city".[3] This acronym first came into use in the early 1980s.

Yuppism... is not definable entirely by income or class. Rather, it is a late-20th century cultural phenomenon of self-absorbed young professionals, earning good pay, enjoying the cultural attractions of sophisticated urban life and thought, and generally out of touch with, indeed antithetical to, most of the challenges and concerns of a far less well-off and more parochial Middle America. For the yuppie male a well-paying job in law, finance, academia or consulting in a cultural hub, hip fashion, cool appearance, studied poise, elite education, proper recreation and fitness and general proximity to liberal-thinking elites, especially of the more rarefied sort in the arts, are the mark of a real man.[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuppie


I'm not even sure their ideals are very similar...Genesis is main stream pop rock, something that a hipster prides on distancing from. Yuppies are out of touch with those less fortunate, hipsters try to act in touch, yuppies care about name brands, hipsters try to dress like bums, etc.


Good luck getting that douche bag DW to listen to you. He's never wrong. Don't you know he has a degree in tree ****ing?

[DeuceWallaces]

Good luck getting that douche bag DW to listen to you. He's never wrong. Don't you know he has a degree in tree ****ing?

Yeah, not nearly as good as your dual major in ****ing ugly girls with a huge schnozs and message board mental melt-downs.

[dunksby]

Eh, that sounds like an extreme example that isn't the norm.

Genesis was definitely mainstream music, it was all over MTV, the radio, and everything else. If it wasn't pop/rock then what was it?
PT you are right, Genesis is a mainstream band and a shitty one too. Is Genesis popular among hipsters?

[DeuceWallaces]

PT you are right, Genesis is a mainstream band and a shitty one too. Is Genesis popular among hipsters?

Genesis is a 70's progressive rock band that created anything but mainstream music, except for Invisible Touch and We Can't Dance or whatever the one from the 90's is called.

[dunksby]

Genesis is a 70's progressive rock band that created anything but mainstream music, except for Invisible Touch and We Can't Dance or whatever the one from the 90's is called.
A lot of bands labeled their music as prog rock back then, doesn't mean they are actually that.

[DeuceWallaces]

A lot of bands labeled their music as prog rock back then, doesn't mean they are actually that.

Lol, I wasn't asking you or relaying information I've read.

I'm telling you. They are a 70's progressive rock band, except for their last two albums from the Phil Collins period. When I don't know what I'm talking about I tend to shut the **** up. You may want to try it.

[dunksby]

Lol, I wasn't asking you or relaying information I've read.

I'm telling you. They are a 70's progressive rock band, except for their last two albums from the Phil Collins period. When I don't know what I'm talking about I tend to shut the **** up. You may want to try it.
What? Genesis suck balls and I tried to be polite about their shitty ass wannabe music. You want to listen to true 70s prog rock, try listening to Camel. And yes you sure need to follow your own advice and shut the **** up.

[El Kabong]

I'd definitely classify Genesis albums like The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway as prog rock (probably anything from the Peter Gabriel era really). Everything from ...And Then There Were Three onwards as more mainstream sounding.

[NBAplayoffs2001]

The way some hipsters/yuppies dress make me laugh. I don't dislike it or anything, I'm just surprised how people wear such bizarre outfits.

[Knicks101]

The way some hipsters/yuppies dress make me laugh. I don't dislike it or anything, I'm just surprised how people wear such bizarre outfits.

You seem like the type to wear XXL t shirts and fitteds with the tag on it so I wouldn't talk.

[Jailblazers7]

The only hipster trend that I find completely hilarious is the waxed & styled mustaches. The other stuff I don't find all that weird.

[hateraid]

The funny thing about hipsters is they do thing to be "original" yet are the biggest phony posers in society

[Horde of Temujin]

**** Brooklyn and most of Manhattan.

Uptown Manhattan is in danger now too :banghead:

Theyre even building condo's in the south Bronx.