View Full Version : Ignoring the super teams, and who we expect to do well....lets talk Magic
3peated
01-29-2015, 09:56 AM
Should this team be a little bit better? Record wise? Or are they still too young of a team to know how to win?
They have a top 5 center, a solid 2guard, and a lot of other young players. I can't understand why they're still only like 5 games ahead of the 76ers who don't appear to have any direction as a team.
RightTwoCensor
01-29-2015, 09:59 AM
Vuve is not Top Five.
Ariza4three
01-29-2015, 10:13 AM
they have a VERY bad coach. simmons talked a little about it.
plus everyone is like 22 years old
Hittin_Shots
01-29-2015, 10:14 AM
And yet only 5 games out the playoffs.. crazy east lol.. if Boston had beat wolves today we'd be like 1 game out. Sad
DukeDelonte13
01-29-2015, 10:30 AM
Young teams historically do not do well in the NBA.
Young team. Bad coach.
Lottery.
HylianNightmare
01-29-2015, 11:07 AM
Gotta trade away that cancer Harris
RightTwoCensor
01-29-2015, 11:10 AM
Gotta trade away that cancer Harris
He's too good and versatile playing with Vuce.
Captvic
01-29-2015, 11:12 AM
This team has potential to be good. They should try to get some veteran players in the offseason
T_L_P
01-29-2015, 11:17 AM
Rebuilds need superstars.
Vuc is almost one. I just don't like much else besides him though (Tobias is killing it for me in fantasy though).
Do Orlando's citizens even care about the team? I've heard Florida is more of a football state.
GimmeThat
01-29-2015, 11:28 AM
this is where/how win streaks may be underrated or overrated by the media perception
Ariza4three
01-29-2015, 06:25 PM
Gotta trade away that cancer Harris
I just don't see a future for Harris on this team with Gordon, but I think it's way too early to cast him off without seeing him with a better coach. Problem is he's a RFA. He's not worth the max tho
sammichoffate
01-29-2015, 06:31 PM
Harris is mad underrated, quality signing for anyone who doesn't overpay for him. I also like the backcourt of Dipo and Payton+Vucevic as a core. Magic need a few more years to get some lottery talent, but they're rebuilding faster than LA right now that's for sure. They ended up getting the best out of that Dwight Howard deal and no one ever talks about it.
Top Gun
01-29-2015, 06:34 PM
Bad coach, coaching young players bad habits. Not a good mix, they should get rid of Vaughan for an experienced coach.
Ariza4three
01-29-2015, 06:34 PM
Harris is mad underrated, quality signing for anyone who doesn't overpay for him. I also like the backcourt of Dipo and Payton+Vucevic as a core. Magic need a few more years to get some lottery talent, but they're rebuilding faster than LA right now that's for sure. They ended up getting the best out of that Dwight Howard deal and no one ever talks about it.
Harris is interesting. He's a bad defender and kind of a ballhog and not the smartest player. He gets his stats, yes, but sometimes it hurts the team. I love Harris but he's definitely not worth a max right now. He is so ****ing young though I don't want to lose him
sammichoffate
01-29-2015, 06:38 PM
Harris is interesting. He's a bad defender and kind of a ballhog and not the smartest player. He gets his stats, yes, but sometimes it hurts the team. I love Harris but he's definitely not worth a max right now. He is so ****ing young though I don't want to lose himThat might be a coaching problem tbh. He'll probably end up getting a mid-range deal from another team or get matched like Hayward did with Utah, depends on what the Front Office wants to do. He's a very good player, but the jury is still out on whether he's a 1st or 2nd option I guess.
Ariza4three
01-29-2015, 06:41 PM
That might be a coaching problem tbh. He'll probably end up getting a mid-range deal from another team or get matched like Hayward did with Utah, depends on what the Front Office wants to do. He's a very good player, but the jury is still out on whether he's a 1st or 2nd option I guess.
That's what I'm saying. I just can't make a complete verdict on our players until Jacques Vaughn is gone. The players have tuned him out now.
sammichoffate
01-29-2015, 06:52 PM
That's what I'm saying. I just can't make a complete verdict on our players until Jacques Vaughn is gone. The players have tuned him out now.Eh, Magic will be fine as long as they keep drafting well and don't lock up money on retarded contracts.
Le Shaqtus
01-29-2015, 07:10 PM
Rebuilds need superstars.
Vuc is almost one. I just don't like much else besides him though (Tobias is killing it for me in fantasy though).
Do Orlando's citizens even care about the team? I've heard Florida is more of a football state.
Funny considering FSU isn't going to be a powerhouse anymore and Florida has been subpar, and our only good NFL team is Miami. We're pretty mediocre at everything.
That being said, the Magic has a good fanbase and we fill out stadium pretty well.
sammichoffate
01-29-2015, 07:12 PM
Funny considering FSU isn't going to be a powerhouse anymore and Florida has been subpar, and our only good NFL team is Miami. We're pretty mediocre at everything.
That being said, the Magic has a good fanbase and we fill out stadium pretty well.What about UCF? :cheers:
outbreak
01-29-2015, 07:18 PM
young team, bad coach, no system, changing rotations. They are doing as expected and have shown some flashes of promise. Still not a team that would be considered in win now mode. They potentially have the players to move in to that mode but they don't have the experience or the line up set yet. I imagine if they fire Vaughn for next season we should expect to see them trying to making the play offs.
3peated
01-29-2015, 07:29 PM
if this thibs rumor is real, maybe magic can pick him up. that would be a great sign.
outbreak
01-29-2015, 07:38 PM
Alex Kennedy has also tweeted that teams have been after Harkless recently but Hennigan still rates him highly, rumour is they could be looking to replace Vaughn and see if Harkless can thrive under a new coach. Harkless has looked rubbish this year but I guess he could blame it on the lack of minutes, seem Hennigan and Vaughn disagree on him. I'd be all for the new coach
Le Shaqtus
01-29-2015, 07:48 PM
What about UCF? :cheers:
We're alright, this season went way better than expected considering the Hail Mary against East Carolina and a not too bad loss to NC state in our first season without Bortles. I think we'll get better, but as long as we beat USF I don't care :lol
Regardless I'm black and gold till I die. :rockon:
sammichoffate
01-29-2015, 07:52 PM
We're alright, this season went way better than expected considering the Hail Mary against East Carolina and a not too bad loss to NC state in our first season without Bortles. I think we'll get better, but as long as we beat USF I don't care :lol
Regardless I'm black and gold till I die. :rockon:**** USF :lol I actually might transfer to UCF next fall, boring af down here
Ariza4three
01-29-2015, 07:52 PM
Alex Kennedy has also tweeted that teams have been after Harkless recently but Hennigan still rates him highly, rumour is they could be looking to replace Vaughn and see if Harkless can thrive under a new coach. Harkless has looked rubbish this year but I guess he could blame it on the lack of minutes, seem Hennigan and Vaughn disagree on him. I'd be all for the new coach
JV is on the hotseat now more than ever. He might be gone by the allstar break if not he'll have the rest of the year.
Le Shaqtus
01-29-2015, 07:53 PM
**** USF :lol I actually might transfer to UCF next fall, boring af down here
I'm all about that shit, go Knights! :cheers:
sick_brah07
01-29-2015, 08:55 PM
i like oladipo but i dont think he is the answer, we need to draft a stud to build specifically around
ralph_i_el
01-29-2015, 09:21 PM
They're super young
Vucivic plays no D
Payton can't shoot
Oladipo is still out of control sometimes ala Westbrook
their team isn't built to win right now. They're still looking for a potential top-10 player in the draft.
Sportal
01-29-2015, 09:41 PM
Who does the Magic draft if they get top3? If "x" is gone, then who.
Edit:
Payton
Dipo
A. Gordon
Towns(?)
Vucevic
Is that alright?
Ariza4three
01-29-2015, 09:44 PM
Who does the Magic draft if they get top3? If "x" is gone, then who.
Edit:
Payton
Dipo
A. Gordon
Towns(?)
Vucevic
Is that alright?
I want WCS
qrich
01-29-2015, 09:48 PM
They have talent, though, it is mainly potential than immediate. Payton can be a top two way point if he finds a jumper, Dipo needs to slow down a bit and Vuc needs to stop being Steve Novak on defense. Harris needs to grow a brain, but should be dealt at the deadline if you ask me, since he'll be overpaid this summer and isn't a piece I'd keep around unless he is content with being an instant bench contributor.
Who does the Magic draft if they get top3? If "x" is gone, then who.
Edit:
Payton
Dipo
A. Gordon
Towns(?)
Vucevic
Is that alright?
Gordon at the three, without surrounded by knock down shooters would be an epic fail.
A defensive center/power forward, or an intelligent scoring small forward should be the target. Someone like Kevon Looney would fit in perfectly.
Sportal
01-29-2015, 09:48 PM
I want WCS
Ok, why? How does your team line up when you have Vucevic?
Ariza4three
01-29-2015, 09:50 PM
Ok, why? How does your team line up when you have Vucevic?
His defense and shotblocking will be key
Elf
Oladipo
Gordon
WCS
Vucevic
hawksdogsbraves
01-29-2015, 09:53 PM
It's funny how the Bucks and Magic are pretty much in the same place in terms of their rebuilds, but the Bucks are about 100x better and don't even have Jabari, (who's probably going to be better than anyone on the Magic :oldlol: ).
Payton/Oladipo/Gordon/Vuc core screams treadmill, they need to hope that whoever they get in the lottery this year is a superstar and whoever they get as a coach isn't a total moron. They'll probably wind up with somebody like Scott Brooks once the Thunder send him packing though.
Ariza4three
01-29-2015, 09:56 PM
It's funny how the Bucks and Magic are pretty much in the same place in terms of their rebuilds, but the Bucks are about 100x better and don't even have Jabari, (who's probably going to be better than anyone on the Magic :oldlol: ).
Payton/Oladipo/Gordon/Vuc core screams treadmill, they need to hope that whoever they get in the lottery this year is a superstar and whoever they get as a coach isn't a total moron. They'll probably wind up with somebody like Scott Brooks once the Thunder send him packing though.
okay
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