View Full Version : Korver really first guy to 50/50/90?
D-Rose
01-29-2015, 11:34 PM
They keep saying this stat everywhere including Ernie on TNT just now...
but..Steve Kerr in 95-96...
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/k/kerrst01.html
50%/51%/92%....
:confusedshrug:
24-Inch_Chrome
01-29-2015, 11:38 PM
Was Kerr qualified as far as attempts?
atljonesbro
01-29-2015, 11:40 PM
They keep saying this stat everywhere including Ernie on TNT just now...
but..Steve Kerr in 95-96...
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/k/kerrst01.html
50%/51%/92%....
:confusedshrug:
Doesn't qualify, too low of volume. Korver has already shot well more shots than Kerr did all that season. Korver's is FAR more impressive when you consider the volume.
buddha
01-29-2015, 11:40 PM
steve kerr, 20 minutes a game, 2 three pointer attempts a game.
gtfo
Droid101
01-29-2015, 11:40 PM
All 82 games, 23 minutes a game, over 122 threes made. Don't see why not.
Euroleague
01-30-2015, 12:30 AM
I thought you only had to play in 70 games to count in the official stats? So I see no reason why Kerr's numbers would not count then.
Just another example of ESPN starting more lies and bullshit and the rest of the idiots like TNT going along with it.
JebronLames
01-30-2015, 12:39 AM
You need 125 FTM in order to qualify for FT %
Euroleague
01-30-2015, 01:07 AM
You need 125 FTM in order to qualify for FT %
Isn't the rule 70 games played or 125 made? I thought the amount of makes was only for players that failed to play in enough games. So if a player was injured and did not play in 70 games, they could still qualify if they made enough.
I think ESPN is again manipulating stats, just like they do every time they list all these "records", but then it always turns out to actually be the "record" since the 1976-77 season only - but ESPN simply claims they don't consider records before that as actual records.
They do the same thing with NFL "records", if you notice they always list those, but then if you actually checked it, it is always just the records since 1970.
They always try to spin everything to their agendas.
Droid101
01-30-2015, 01:19 AM
You only have to make 82 threes in a season to qualify. Steve Kerr did this in 96. Korver is not the first to ever do it.
JebronLames
01-30-2015, 01:41 AM
You only have to make 82 threes in a season to qualify. Steve Kerr did this in 96. Korver is not the first to ever do it.
You need 125 FTM in order to qualify for FT %
Richesly
01-30-2015, 01:45 AM
Korver is the first to ever do it, when consider eligibility.
Kerr only shot 2 threes a game... Korver shoots 7 3s a game..
Kerr didn't have enough FTM.
triangleoffense
01-30-2015, 02:25 AM
Kerr's season has to count too he played all 82 games and 23 minutes a game is exactly what a 6th man/scoring backup guard would play anyways.
But yea as far as which one is more impressive it's obviously Korver.. 7 attempts a game at 50/50/90.. wow..
DJ Leon Smith
01-30-2015, 03:30 AM
Pretty sure this was when the three point line was moved in as well so regardless if Kerr qualifies or not Korver would be the first guy to do it with the longer line.
SHAQisGOAT
01-30-2015, 06:35 AM
League minimums... Kerr didn't reach them.
I believe you gotta make 300 field goals, 55 3pters and 125 FT's... Steve fell short in terms of FG's and FT's.
That's why you don't see him in when they list the 50/40/90 club, or why you never hear about the 50/50/90 club.
Calderon shot 51.9/42.9/90.8 once... And you don't see him in the 50/40/90 club because he didn't make 125 FT's.
And Jose also played all 82 games, to the people mentioning that.
So yea, Korver would be the 1st to do it if he plays 80 games or very close, and keeps doing it at the same pace.
Plus, Kerr did it with the 3pt-line closer to the basket.
However, they shouldn't be saying he made it as of right now, but they gotta create some hype as usual... Let's say if Korver got injured and doesn't play another game, he wouldn't make it as well.
I'm hoping he does, would be pretty cool to have a 50/50/90, shit's crazy.
Magic731
01-30-2015, 07:29 AM
Korver hasn't even made it yet... What if he goes cold to finish out the season?
JebronLames
01-30-2015, 07:35 AM
Korver hasn't even made it yet... What if he goes cold to finish out the season?
yeah lol, i think he is an underdog to get there. crazy how he can shoot 4/8 from distance and his 3 pt % would go down. He could easily have a couple 0/6 or 1/8 games, and his percentage would drop a lot.
La Frescobaldi
01-30-2015, 08:23 AM
Korver hasn't even made it yet... What if he goes cold to finish out the season?
but what if he gets a hot hand to finish out the season? :oldlol:
maybe he hasn't found his rhythm yet
SHAQisGOAT
01-30-2015, 09:26 AM
To put things in perspective...
To qualify as one of the league leaders a player needs to make, at least, 300 FG's, 55 3's and 125 FT's.
Korver right now has played 45 games out of the Hawks' 46.
He has made 187 FG's, so doing it a little more-or-less at the same rate he'd need less than 75 games to reach 300. He was above it 3x before.
He's shooting 51.8% from the field, which is still a decent margin not to fall under it.
So far he's made 140 3's, well above the 55-made mark.
He's shooting 53.4% from 3pt land, which is crazy (given the tries also) and better than his FG%.
He made 72 FT's as of right now, so at the same pace he would need around 78 games to reach 125. He only surpassed that 125 mark once in his career.
He's shooting 92.3% from the FT line, 2nd best in his career so far.
^Toughest thing for him will be the FT's made.
So, he needs to keep his shooting above 50/50/90 ofc, while playing almost all of the games left (doing it at the same pace).
If he shoots 50/50/90 (without rounding up) while not reaching those minimums he'll fall right in with Kerr...
3peated
01-30-2015, 10:09 AM
Isn't the rule 70 games played or 125 made? I thought the amount of makes was only for players that failed to play in enough games. So if a player was injured and did not play in 70 games, they could still qualify if they made enough.
I think ESPN is again manipulating stats, just like they do every time they list all these "records", but then it always turns out to actually be the "record" since the 1976-77 season only - but ESPN simply claims they don't consider records before that as actual records.
They do the same thing with NFL "records", if you notice they always list those, but then if you actually checked it, it is always just the records since 1970.
They always try to spin everything to their agendas.
is everything a conspiracy to you?
Roundball_Rock
01-30-2015, 10:23 AM
Kerr did not qualify and Kerr did it with the shortened three point line as well. He was the best three point shooter of his era but what Korver is doing is on another level given Korver's greater volume, role in his team's offense and the greater degree of difficulty with the legitimate three point line.
Jlamb47
01-30-2015, 10:24 AM
You only have to make 82 threes in a season to qualify. Steve Kerr did this in 96. Korver is not the first to ever do it.
Look at Kerr FT% that season it isnt 90%
Kerr never done this
IDK what yal are looking at
SHAQisGOAT
01-30-2015, 10:57 AM
Look at Kerr FT% that season it isnt 90%
Kerr never done this
IDK what yal are looking at
Huh... Yes, it was... 50.6% FG, 51.5% 3P, 92.9% FT in 1996.
But he didn't reach league minimums in FG's and FT's (plus, the 3pt line was closer to the basket).
hawksdogsbraves
01-30-2015, 11:55 AM
but what if he gets a hot hand to finish out the season? :oldlol:
maybe he hasn't found his rhythm yet
55/60/95 incoming :bowdown:
oarabbus
01-30-2015, 01:57 PM
Pretty sure this was when the three point line was moved in as well so regardless if Kerr qualifies or not Korver would be the first guy to do it with the longer line.
This... was it not a shorter 3pt line when Kerr did it?
atljonesbro
01-30-2015, 06:00 PM
"No need to neg. Wasn't a Korver diss" -Neg
Do I really got people signing my name in their negs now :lol I guess I made it. I can't even neg people cause I'm in the red.
AirFederer
01-30-2015, 06:14 PM
Wilt was the first...except for the 90 bpg
Tapes indicate 36 bpg
:rockon:
tpols
01-30-2015, 07:11 PM
Huh... Yes, it was... 50.6% FG, 51.5% 3P, 92.9% FT in 1996.
But he didn't reach league minimums in FG's and FT's (plus, the 3pt line was closer to the basket).
So he's basically a homeless man's Korver
#weakera
Richesly
01-30-2015, 07:40 PM
"No need to neg. Wasn't a Korver diss" -Neg
Do I really got people signing my name in their negs now :lol I guess I made it. I can't even neg people cause I'm in the red.
Yeah, same thing is happening to me. I haven't negged anyone other than Real14, but I've gotten 3 negs saying "nice random neg bitch".
Euroleague
02-02-2015, 07:35 AM
To put things in perspective...
To qualify as one of the league leaders a player needs to make, at least, 300 FG's, 55 3's and 125 FT's.
Korver right now has played 45 games out of the Hawks' 46.
He has made 187 FG's, so doing it a little more-or-less at the same rate he'd need less than 75 games to reach 300. He was above it 3x before.
He's shooting 51.8% from the field, which is still a decent margin not to fall under it.
So far he's made 140 3's, well above the 55-made mark.
He's shooting 53.4% from 3pt land, which is crazy (given the tries also) and better than his FG%.
He made 72 FT's as of right now, so at the same pace he would need around 78 games to reach 125. He only surpassed that 125 mark once in his career.
He's shooting 92.3% from the FT line, 2nd best in his career so far.
^Toughest thing for him will be the FT's made.
So, he needs to keep his shooting above 50/50/90 ofc, while playing almost all of the games left (doing it at the same pace).
If he shoots 50/50/90 (without rounding up) while not reaching those minimums he'll fall right in with Kerr...
If you play in at least 70 games, then you qualify.
Captvic
02-02-2015, 08:24 AM
Hawks vs who in the NBA finals?
SHAQisGOAT
02-02-2015, 02:12 PM
So he's basically a homeless man's Korver
#weakera
Great comment, keep it going :rolleyes:
If you play in at least 70 games, then you qualify.
Guess you make the rules, huh? :rolleyes:
:facepalm
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