lmao Chuck buried Gabrielle Union

[lilteapot]

https://vine.co/v/OtKPYJ3Ku72

:roll: Ruthless

[Haymaker]

Can't see it. What did he said?

[SHAQisGOAT]

:roll:

Chuck :applause:

[lilteapot]

Can't see it. What did he said?
"Never mention you and Meryl Streep in the same sentence. Meryl Streep would never do Snakes on a Plane and Madea"

[Dragic4Life]

http://www.nbareligion.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Dwyane-Wade.jpg

[Nuff Said]

You can't bury someone if you ain't win shit. Gabby is right. And if you sit arou and only wait for good roles you will never get that exposure you need. Shorty got her own show now.

[IGOTGAME]

You can't bury someone if you ain't win shit. Gabby is right. And if you sit arou and only wait for good roles you will never get that exposure you need. Shorty got her own show now.

Barkley = MVP and HOFer.

Union = homewrecker and bad actress

[Dresta]

Barkley is so salty about being a career loser, can see the increase in salt each and every year as the man becomes more and more of a bitter old fool.

Haven't people got tired of his schtick yet? Isn't it about time Inside the NBA hired someone who actually knows something about basketball, rather than some old and salty bball player with an attitude problem (and who children find funny), leading to moronic predictions like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzJl8lQhCx4

He thinks that because he's a fat asshole who couldn't stay in shape, that everyone else must be too! How typical!

[lilteapot]

Barkley is so salty about being a career loser, can see the increase in salt each and every year as the man becomes more and more of a bitter old fool.

Haven't people got tired of his schtick yet? Isn't it about time Inside the NBA hired someone who actually knows something about basketball, rather than some old and salty bball player with an attitude problem (and who children find funny), leading to moronic predictions like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzJl8lQhCx4

He thinks that because he's a fat asshole who couldn't stay in shape, that everyone else must be too! How typical!
You're an idiot.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Barkley = MVP and HOFer.

Union = homewrecker and bad actress

:lol

[Dresta]

Barkley = MVP and HOFer.

Union = homewrecker and bad actress
And what does that have to do with Barkley's comments not making the slightest bit of sense? She dissed the man, and he got all flustered and thus insulted her in a way that didn't make any sense (because she wasn't comparing herself to Streep, she was comparing herself to Barkley, because they are both career losers, which is true). Barkley is ignorant of what it takes to win, yet he has the audacity to sit on his fat ass and constantly bitch about people who are better than him.

[SugarHill]

And what does that have to do with Barkley's comments not making the slightest bit of sense? She dissed the man, and he got all flustered and thus insulted her in a way that didn't make any sense (because she wasn't comparing herself to Streep, she was comparing herself to Barkley, because they are both career losers, which is true). Barkley is ignorant of what it takes to win, yet he has the audacity to sit on his fat ass and constantly bitch about people who are better than him.
Who are these people?

[Ariza4three]

And what does that have to do with Barkley's comments not making the slightest bit of sense? She dissed the man, and he got all flustered and thus insulted her in a way that didn't make any sense (because she wasn't comparing herself to Streep, she was comparing herself to Barkley, because they are both career losers, which is true). Barkley is ignorant of what it takes to win, yet he has the audacity to sit on his fat ass and constantly bitch about people who are better than him.
Shut your senile ass up boy. Keep running your damn mouth and you'll be on the ground.

[Dresta]

You're an idiot.
You're a shameless Bron stan who can't even recognise who the butt of the joke is in this case, so i don't give a **** what you think.

Again, saying this:

'Forgive Charles. .. Kenny Smith is a 2x champion & his opinion is most sound... it's like me talkin bout Meryl Streep but I ain't won nuthin..'

What Barkley said didn't make any sense as a response to that. How can you respond to 'i'm so not in the same league as Meryl Streep that my opinion about her has no clout or value (like Barkley's bball opinion)' with 'why you puttin your name in the same sentence as Meryl Streep' - :roll: .

Basically, only a delusional Bron fan or someone with no reading comprehension could find such a thing funny, and you are likely both.

[lilteapot]

You're a shameless Bron stan who can't even recognise who the butt of the joke is in this case, so i don't give a **** what you think.

Again, saying this:

'Forgive Charles. .. Kenny Smith is a 2x champion & his opinion is most sound... it's like me talkin bout Meryl Streep but I ain't won nuthin..'

What Barkley said didn't make any sense as a response to that. How can you respond to 'i'm so not in the same league as Meryl Streep that my opinion about her has no clout or value (like Barkley's bball opinion)' with 'why you puttin your name in the same sentence as Meryl Streep' - :roll: .

Basically, only a delusional Bron fan or someone with no reading comprehension could find such a thing funny, and you are likely both.

all you are is a butthurt little bitch who is trying way too hard to white knight d-wade's wife. get the **** out of my thread you worthless miami alley hooker

[scandisk_]

who started it though? :confusedshrug:

[Ariza4three]

all you are is a butthurt little bitch who is trying way too hard to white knight d-wade's wife. get the **** out of my thread you worthless miami alley hooker
DAMN.

[SugarHill]

all you are is a butthurt little bitch who is trying way too hard to white knight d-wade's wife. get the **** out of my thread you worthless miami alley hooker
:lebronamazed:

Dresta is right about the Barkley response tho

[SHAQisGOAT]

And what does that have to do with Barkley's comments not making the slightest bit of sense? She dissed the man, and he got all flustered and thus insulted her in a way that didn't make any sense (because she wasn't comparing herself to Streep, she was comparing herself to Barkley, because they are both career losers, which is true). Barkley is ignorant of what it takes to win, yet he has the audacity to sit on his fat ass and constantly bitch about people who are better than him.

Wow... All that salt because of those comments? Shit was very funny, can't deny, why not just leave it at that?

You really wanna go into it? Ok...

1st of all, Barkley's miles aways better than Kenny as a player. Jet played a solid part but got "lucky" in order to win rings.

What do you define as career loser? Chuck won a MVP, he's regarded as of the greatest players ever.
I wouldn't even call Gabrielle a nice actress and she won't ever even sniff an Oscar(they've been mostly about "politics" for a long time now, but I won't get into that here).

A better analogy would be: Charles winning MVP but never a title is like an actor winning an Oscar for best performance but never being in an academy award winning film.
Union? I'm willing to bet my life she won't ever "do" both... Maybe if she got lucky and appears in a small part in a great movie, which I highly doubt still.

Barkley is one of the GOAT players, even though Kenny won a title Chuck can easily be "compared" to him because he was much greater and he's also tons of spots above on the all-time list. Shit, Chuck can be compared to the best players ever.
On the other hand, Union can't even begin to be compared to an actress like Streep...

[Haymaker]

Barkley may be ringless but no shame losing to MJ. Kenny Smith was a pawn in those Rockets teams.

[Ariza4three]

The better question to all of this is why is a BITCH opening her mouth without being told? D-Wade must be beta as shit. That boy needs to put a leash on his bitch.

[SugarHill]

Wow... All that salt because of those comments? Shit was very funny, can't deny, why not just leave it at that?

You really wanna go into it? Ok...

1st of all, Barkley's miles aways better than Kenny as a player. Jet played a solid part but got "lucky" in order to win rings.

What do you define as career loser? Chuck won a MVP, he's regarded as of the greatest players ever.
I wouldn't even call Gabrielle a nice actress and she won't ever even sniff an Oscar(they've been mostly about "politics" for a long time now, but I won't get into that here).

A better analogy would be: Charles winning MVP but never a title is like an actor winning an Oscar for best performance but never being in an academy award winning film.
Union? I'm willing to bet my life she won't ever "do" both... Maybe if she got lucky and appears in a small part in a great movie, which I highly doubt still.

Barkley is one of the GOAT players, even though Kenny won a title Chuck can easily be "compared" to him because he was much greater and he's also tons of spots above on the all-time list. Shit, Chuck can be compared to the best players ever.
On the other hand, Union can't even begin to be compared to an actress like Streep...


:applause:

Except Streep is overrated as fvck. Seriously. People put her on a pedestal. :coleman:

[Wade's Rings]

Barkley may be ringless but no shame losing to MJ. Kenny Smith was a pawn in those Rockets teams.

He got eliminated by Jordan 3 Times, what about the other 13yrs of his Career? You can say he didn't have help in Philly and was old in Houston but he lost with a 2-0 lead and a 3-1 lead in his Prime.

Kenny made some big shots I believe. The most memorable one is the shot to force Overtime against the Magic in Game 1 of the 1995 Finals. At least I remember that one.

[hawkfan]

https://vine.co/v/OtKPYJ3Ku72

:roll: Ruthless

How does he know what movies she's in, and yet he's criticizing her.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Wow... All that salt because of those comments? Shit was very funny, can't deny, why not just leave it at that?

You really wanna go into it? Ok...

1st of all, Barkley's miles aways better than Kenny as a player. Jet played a solid part but got "lucky" in order to win rings.

What do you define as career loser? Chuck won a MVP, he's regarded as of the greatest players ever.
I wouldn't even call Gabrielle a nice actress and she won't ever even sniff an Oscar(they've been mostly about "politics" for a long time now, but I won't get into that here).

A better analogy would be: Charles winning MVP but never a title is like an actor winning an Oscar for best performance but never being in an academy award winning film.
Union? I'm willing to bet my life she won't ever "do" both... Maybe if she got lucky and appears in a small part in a great movie, which I highly doubt still.

Barkley is one of the GOAT players, even though Kenny won a title Chuck can easily be "compared" to him because he was much greater and he's also tons of spots above on the all-time list. Shit, Chuck can be compared to the best players ever.
On the other hand, Union can't even begin to be compared to an actress like Streep...


Nailed it.

:applause:

[3peated]

i hate to break it to you retards, but being an nba player for 10-20 years, and then having a job within the NBA afterwards isnt being a "career loser" by any definition.

[SHAQisGOAT]

:applause:

Except Streep is overrated as fvck. Seriously. People put her on a pedestal. :coleman:

True, mostly/especially nowadays. At some point she'll get nominated for reading the phone book or something...

Still one of the greatest actresses ever though.

[Wade's Rings]

i hate to break it to you retards, but being an nba player for 10-20 years, and then having a job within the NBA afterwards isnt being a "career loser" by any definition.

Didn't win any rings.

[lilteapot]

Didn't win any rings.
God how are you people so narrow minded.

[Akhenaten]

Charles in his feelings like a hoe :roll:

[Akhenaten]

who started it though? :confusedshrug:

Charles' consistent sneak dissing of D Wade.

[R.I.P.]

Has she done a movie since Bad Boys II? :confusedshrug:

[Dresta]

Wow... All that salt because of those comments? Shit was very funny, can't deny, why not just leave it at that?

You really wanna go into it? Ok...

1st of all, Barkley's miles aways better than Kenny as a player. Jet played a solid part but got "lucky" in order to win rings.

What do you define as career loser? Chuck won a MVP, he's regarded as of the greatest players ever.
I wouldn't even call Gabrielle a nice actress and she won't ever even sniff an Oscar(they've been mostly about "politics" for a long time now, but I won't get into that here).

A better analogy would be: Charles winning MVP but never a title is like an actor winning an Oscar for best performance but never being in an academy award winning film.
Union? I'm willing to bet my life she won't ever "do" both... Maybe if she got lucky and appears in a small part in a great movie, which I highly doubt still.

Barkley is one of the GOAT players, even though Kenny won a title Chuck can easily be "compared" to him because he was much greater and he's also tons of spots above on the all-time list. Shit, Chuck can be compared to the best players ever.
On the other hand, Union can't even begin to be compared to an actress like Streep...

Learn to not write in bold and to write in readable paragraphs and then i will read the nonsense you post. As it stands i really cba...

And nothing you say will change the fact that Barkley is a career loser. MVP is a popularity award, and has nothing to do with winning an NBA title. Rose has an MVP and he's an even bigger career loser than Barkley :lol.


all you are is a butthurt little bitch who is trying way too hard to white knight d-wade's wife. get the **** out of my thread you worthless miami alley hooker
So, just pointing out that the joke of an illiterate boob from Alabama doesn't make any sense is white knighting someone i don't know or care about? (unlike Barkley, i wasn't even aware that Union was an actress, and have never seen any of her films either)

Good to see the typical Bron-stan logic is strong with you. You can't even point out the patently obvious without being accused of some inane shit. Also, one has to wonder how sad an individual needs to be to go around making threads dissing a guy's wife just because he hurts the legacy of your GAWD. You wouldn't have made this thread last year, or you would have argued the opposite, and that's how ****ing sad and pathetic you are in a nutshell.

[ProfessorMurder]

Dude, just shut the f*ck up.

[Dresta]

i hate to break it to you retards, but being an nba player for 10-20 years, and then having a job within the NBA afterwards isnt being a "career loser" by any definition.
Erm, yeah it is: by the definition of 'winning' in the context of the NBA, he is a loser.

I didn't say he'd lost at the game of life now did I? Try to keep it relevant: i don't give a **** how much money the man has made, nor what he has done post-basketball. That is all completely irrelevant when it comes to separating NBA winners from NBA losers (the latter category includes Chuck btw).

[lilteapot]

Good to see the typical Bron-stan logic is strong with you. You can't even point out the patently obvious without being accused of some inane shit. Also, one has to wonder how sad an individual needs to be to go around making threads dissing a guy's wife just because he hurts the legacy of your GAWD. You wouldn't have made this thread last year, or you would have argued the opposite, and that's how ****ing sad and pathetic you are in a nutshell.
What are you even talking about, son :roll:

[oh the horror]

This isn't the first time Union has opened her mouth to say something or rib nba players. What's with this broad?

[SugarHill]

Erm, yeah it is: by the definition of 'winning' in the context of the NBA, he is a loser.

I didn't say he'd lost at the game of life now did I? Try to keep it relevant: i don't give a **** how much money the man has made, nor what he has done post-basketball. That is all completely irrelevant when it comes to separating NBA winners from NBA losers (the latter category includes Chuck btw).

Losers: Barkley, Malone, Stockton, Ewing, Baylor

winners: Kenny Smith, Darko, Luc Longley

:bowdown:

[scandisk_]

Charles' consistent sneak dissing of D Wade.

Chuck does it all the time, once he's on the roll he'll diss anyone :roll:

[SHAQisGOAT]

Learn to not write in bold and to write in readable paragraphs and then i will read the nonsense you post. As it stands i really cba...

And nothing you say will change the fact that Barkley is a career loser. MVP is a popularity award, and has nothing to do with winning an NBA title. Rose has an MVP and he's an even bigger career loser than Barkley :lol.


So, just pointing out that the joke of an illiterate boob from Alabama doesn't make any sense is white knighting someone i don't know or care about? (unlike Barkley, i wasn't even aware that Union was an actress, and have never seen any of her films either)

Good to see the typical Bron-stan logic is strong with you. You can't even point out the patently obvious without being accused of some inane shit. Also, one has to wonder how sad an individual needs to be to go around making threads dissing a guy's wife just because he hurts the legacy of your GAWD. You wouldn't have made this thread last year, or you would have argued the opposite, and that's how ****ing sad and pathetic you are in a nutshell.

http://media.thereadystore.com/mktg/blog/salt-shaker.jpg

[AnaheimLakers24]

Shes ugly. Ive ****ed hotter latinas. They are pretty

[Dresta]

Losers: Barkley, Malone, Stockton, Ewing, Baylor

winners: Kenny Smith, Darko, Luc Longley

:bowdown:
:cheers:

Why do idiots always bring up this childish nonsense? Barkley was a loser and loudmouth with a bad attitude and a small mind, and that's really why he never won anything. I fail to see how you bring a guy who never even played on his championship team into the conversation: that is simply a straw-man and utterly irrelevant.

Winners: MJ, Russell, Magic, Bird, Kareem, Bron, Shaq, Kobe, Duncan, Wade, Pippen, et cetera.

Losers: Barkley, Malone, Stockton, Ewing, Nash, Kidd, Dominique, Harden, Iverson, Webber et cetera.

Yeah, you're right, there's a huge difference between the upper group of players and the latter. Ask yourself the question whether there's not perhaps a reason why a true sporting competitor would never have a golf swing like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s50K65PNeBU

:roll:

Man is a mental weakling.

[Akhenaten]

Chuck does it all the time, once he's on the roll he'll diss anyone :roll:

Nah bro, he STAY taking slick shots at Wade in particular, been doing it for years.

Gabby need to sit her ass down though, cant stand broads like her.

[kNIOKAS]

So I see this Dresta is still on his strawman routine. Doing good son.

[Dresta]

So I see this Dresta is still on his strawman routine. Doing good son.
Where is the strawman you stupid prat? Saying his response didn't make any sense is not a strawman (do you even know what this means?).

[3peated]

Erm, yeah it is: by the definition of 'winning' in the context of the NBA, he is a loser.

I didn't say he'd lost at the game of life now did I? Try to keep it relevant: i don't give a **** how much money the man has made, nor what he has done post-basketball. That is all completely irrelevant when it comes to separating NBA winners from NBA losers (the latter category includes Chuck btw).


multiple all star, and best player on his team for most of his career, he isn't a loser. not winning a championship doenst make a player a loser, you need a team to win that, it's not a 1 man show. stop being such a juvenile.

[Human Error]

Barkley is so salty about being a career loser, can see the increase in salt each and every year as the man becomes more and more of a bitter old fool.

Haven't people got tired of his schtick yet? Isn't it about time Inside the NBA hired someone who actually knows something about basketball, rather than some old and salty bball player with an attitude problem (and who children find funny), leading to moronic predictions like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzJl8lQhCx4

He thinks that because he's a fat asshole who couldn't stay in shape, that everyone else must be too! How typical!
I think Barkley was spot on throughout the show, as usual. Ernie Johnson was an idiot, I don't know if it was his gimmick to generate more conversation but man he really was. Among star players who turned to commentators, Barkley has always been the most logical and the most knowledgeable with his comments and analysis.

[SexSymbol]

When I see the whole situation, Chuck just comes off as a complete salty idiot.
Obviously when it's taken out of context it's funny.
Charles is a king of insult jokes that are not based on logic

[SugarHill]

:cheers:

Why do idiots always bring up this childish nonsense? Barkley was a loser and loudmouth with a bad attitude and a small mind, and that's really why he never won anything. I fail to see how you bring a guy who never even played on his championship team into the conversation: that is simply a straw-man and utterly irrelevant.

Winners: MJ, Russell, Magic, Bird, Kareem, Bron, Shaq, Kobe, Duncan, Wade, Pippen, et cetera.

Losers: Barkley, Malone, Stockton, Ewing, Nash, Kidd, Dominique, Harden, Iverson, Webber et cetera.

Yeah, you're right, there's a huge difference between the upper group of players and the latter. Ask yourself the question whether there's not perhaps a reason why a true sporting competitor would never have a golf swing like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s50K65PNeBU

:roll:

Man is a mental weakling.


Lmao @ that swing

[Wade's Rings]

God how are you people so narrow minded.

That's why they call him a Career loser. Please point out when I called Chuck A Career loser.

[Wade's Rings]

@Dresta Kidd won a ring thanks to Lebron.

[Overdrive]

You're a shameless Bron stan who can't even recognise who the butt of the joke is in this case, so i don't give a **** what you think.

Again, saying this:

'Forgive Charles. .. Kenny Smith is a 2x champion & his opinion is most sound... it's like me talkin bout Meryl Streep but I ain't won nuthin..'

What Barkley said didn't make any sense as a response to that. How can you respond to 'i'm so not in the same league as Meryl Streep that my opinion about her has no clout or value (like Barkley's bball opinion)' with 'why you puttin your name in the same sentence as Meryl Streep' - :roll: .

Basically, only a delusional Bron fan or someone with no reading comprehension could find such a thing funny, and you are likely both.

Yeah, the response is stupid, but Barkley is more like Leo. An AT great, who never won. Kenny Smith isn't Streep he's the co-assistent director who hits the stage at the Oscar reception and claps, smiles etc as if he was the guy doing all the heavy lifting. I think her analogy was even more off.


Kenny's opinion is as qualified or unqualified as anybody else's on that show. I don't get why people think ex players opinions on the game are so damn important. They're just the working men not the scientists behind the game.

[zoom17]

Dresta it's not that serious:roll:

[AlphaWolf24]

WTF did Chuck say????

[gts]

:lebronamazed:

Dresta is right about the Barkley response tho

Yep.. dead on

[KNOW1EDGE]

Dresta calling league MVP's and hall of gamers losers. LMFAO

All while he sits at home behind his computer, angry at the world and jealous of other people's success and fortune. Very sad. Everybody say a prayer for Dresta

[KyrieTheFuture]

:cheers:

Why do idiots always bring up this childish nonsense? Barkley was a loser and loudmouth with a bad attitude and a small mind, and that's really why he never won anything. I fail to see how you bring a guy who never even played on his championship team into the conversation: that is simply a straw-man and utterly irrelevant.

Winners: MJ, Russell, Magic, Bird, Kareem, Bron, Shaq, Kobe, Duncan, Wade, Pippen, et cetera.

Losers: Barkley, Malone, Stockton, Ewing, Nash, Kidd, Dominique, Harden, Iverson, Webber et cetera.

Yeah, you're right, there's a huge difference between the upper group of players and the latter. Ask yourself the question whether there's not perhaps a reason why a true sporting competitor would never have a golf swing like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s50K65PNeBU

:roll:

Man is a mental weakling.
https://amerinfidel.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/pot-kettle.jpg

[BasedTom]

dresta is out for blood in this thread

with no regard for human life

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[JT123]

:oldlol: Dresta getting his shit pushed in!

[Brokenbeat]

Dresta it's not that serious:roll:

Apparently, it is. :oldlol:

[Trollsmasher]

Dresta really needs to stay in OTC:lol

[KyleKong]

What the shit am I reading right now

:biggums:

[SwayDizzle]

Charles' comeback was weak as sh*t and he totally misunderstood her diss but her comparison flat out sucks. Charles owns Kenny as a player. Charles is the GOAT ringless player and is compared to players in the top 10 list. There was only one player MJ was threatened by during his prime years in the league, and that was Charles. I'm willing to bet MJ befriended him initially as a tactic, to keep Charles timid. Meryl Streep to women actors is like MJ to ball players. Kenny is more like Gabrielle than Charles. Charles was regularly compared with MJ as best player.

[Eric Cartman]

It's sucks that so many legends get dissed just because they didn't win a title in the Jordan era. If Lebron and Kobe played in that era, we are talking ringless for both of them, instead they both top 12 all time.

[Done_And_Done]

Barkley is so salty about being a career loser, can see the increase in salt each and every year as the man becomes more and more of a bitter old fool.

Haven't people got tired of his schtick yet? Isn't it about time Inside the NBA hired someone who actually knows something about basketball, rather than some old and salty bball player with an attitude problem (and who children find funny), leading to moronic predictions like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzJl8lQhCx4

He thinks that because he's a fat asshole who couldn't stay in shape, that everyone else must be too! How typical!

Barkley is EASILY the biggest draw on the show. It's not even close...

[TylerOO]

You can't bury someone if you ain't win shit. Gabby is right. And if you sit arou and only wait for good roles you will never get that exposure you need. Shorty got her own show now.

*looks at avatar*

shut yo punk ass up

[buddha]

except she wasn't in Snakes On A Plane.. lol

[SugarHill]

except she wasn't in Snakes On A Plane.. lol
I watched that film and also thought it was weird but just went with it. Maybe she was. It was a long time ago :lol

[Nuff Said]

I watched that film and also thought it was weird but just went with it. Maybe she was. It was a long time ago :lol
Same here. I was like damn I don't remember her being in it.

[IncarceratedBob]

You can't bury someone if you ain't win shit. Gabby is right. And if you sit arou and only wait for good roles you will never get that exposure you need. Shorty got her own show now.
You really gonna defend your favorite players stupid whore wife? Almost as bad as MJ people defending his dick size. Get a life dude, she's a horrible actress and an ugly ****

[tontoz]

For his career Barkley averaged 22/11 with a TS of 61%. He is a consensus top 3 pf all time.

Dresta is a moron.

[Done_And_Done]

I just checked her Twitter and I'm amazed at the fact that this chick has over 2.5 million followers. We're doomed as a society...

[SexSymbol]

For his career Barkley averaged 22/11 with a TS of 61%. He is a consensus top 3 pf all time.

Dresta is a moron.
Garnett Duncan Dirk Pettit McHale Hayes Malone

[aj1987]

Did Chuck seriously pick Jennings, Knight, and Korver over Wade to be All-Stars? :facepalm

Don't give a shit about the Union thing, but the guy is an idiot. Does he even watch the games?

[MMM]

only seen union in cradle to the grave where she failed to distract someone by giving him head

[Dresta]

Barkley is EASILY the biggest draw on the show. It's not even close...
That is likely true, but it doesn't make his analysis any more insightful or praiseworthy. Just like Justin Bieber's album sales don't make his music any better.

Guy is always saying and doing incredibly stupid shit, and has been his whole life.


For his career Barkley averaged 22/11 with a TS of 61%. He is a consensus top 3 pf all time.

Dresta is a moron.
Seriously, how does that have anything to do with what i said? How does any of that make him less of a career loser - did those things stop him losing each and every year of his career? Nope. So get that irrelevant bullshit outta here.

And he certainly is not a consensus top 3, especially with the way he played defense.

Anyway, i cba with this and so will defer to the authority of NBA winners, like people always do on here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-ugxfIYANA

Pippen: 'I should have listened to Michael a year ago when he said that Charles will never win a championship because he doesn't show any dedication' also calls him 'fat' 'lazy' and a 'selfish guy who doesn't wanna win' - so both Pippen and MJ thought he was an NBA loser as well, it seems, and i think they know more about it than you do.

Nor is he a consensus top3 pf: Duncan, KG, Dirk and Malone all had better nba careers. Remarkable how many things you can get wrong in a single sentence, and then have the audacity to call someone else a moron!


Dresta it's not that serious:roll:
True. But all i did was post a single response giving my opinion about Mr. Barkley, and that triggered hoards people who are for some reason quite mesmerised by me, and will never miss an opportunity to say something about me, or fling some fatuous insult my way. After that i made the mistake of trying to keep up with the responses, before realising its futility if i hoped to go outside that day.

It seems my reputation on here precedes me to the point where I can't even state the fact of Charles Barkley being a career loser without the ignorant masses pouring in to defend their parochial hero. Obviously i can't keep pace with all those morons piling in one-after-another like the flock of babbling geese that they are, and should have realised it earlier.

Thus i will bow out on a high, as this thread quickly turned into quite the waste of time. Barkley's golf swing one more time (a montage):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxLkEPb5DzI

:bowdown:

[YouGotServed]

Dresta rambling again. This dude is such a fvckboy is embarrassing. :oldlol:


That is likely true, but it doesn't make his analysis any more insightful or praiseworthy. Just like Justin Bieber's album sales don't make his music any better.

Guy is always saying and doing incredibly stupid shit, and has been his whole life.


Seriously, how does that have anything to do with what i said? How does any of that make him less of a career loser - did those things stop him losing each and every year of his career? Nope. So get that irrelevant bullshit outta here.

And he certainly is not a consensus top 3, especially with the way he played defense.

Anyway, i cba with this and so will defer to the authority of NBA winners, like people always do on here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-ugxfIYANA

Pippen: 'I should have listened to Michael a year ago when he said that Charles will never win a championship because he doesn't show any dedication' also calls him 'fat' 'lazy' and a 'selfish guy who doesn't wanna win' - so both Pippen and MJ thought he was an NBA loser as well, it seems, and i think they know more about it than you do.

Nor is he a consensus top3 pf: Duncan, KG, Dirk and Malone all had better nba careers. Remarkable how many things you can get wrong in a single sentence, and then have the audacity to call someone else a moron!


True. But all i did was post a single response giving my opinion about Mr. Barkley, and that triggered hoards people who are for some reason quite mesmerised by me, and will never miss an opportunity to say something about me, or fling some fatuous insult my way. After that i made the mistake of trying to keep up with the responses, before realising its futility if i hoped to go outside that day.

It seems my reputation on here precedes me to the point where I can't even state the fact of Charles Barkley being a career loser without the ignorant masses pouring in to defend their parochial hero. Obviously i can't keep pace with all those morons piling in one-after-another like the flock of babbling geese that they are, and should have realised it earlier.

Thus i will bow out on a high, as this thread quickly turned into quite the waste of time. Barkley's golf swing one more time (a montage):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxLkEPb5DzI

:bowdown:


http://i.minus.com/ibovNT1owp74ik.gif

[RightTwoCensor]

Why is this thread 6 pages long?

[jrong]

https://vine.co/v/OtKPYJ3Ku72

:roll: Ruthless

More like Gabbie buried Chuck. Chuck couldn't even get his comeback straight. Union wasn't even in Snakes on a Plane or the Madea movies.

Chuck's Wade hate has reached the point where he says things that don't even make sense. Bosh has been the Heat's best player? That's demonstrably false on any level-- statistical or observational. Chuck was raving about Whiteside on ESPN, saying he watched Heat/Bulls Sunday-- yet, apparently he ignored Wade, not Bosh, closing the game.

I'd love to know went down during/ after the "Fave 5" commercials between Wade and Barkley. Because Wade plucked Barkley out of obscurity with those ads, and the next thing you know Chuck has all kinds of TV gigs. Yet, instead of being grateful, the fact **** has been taking shots at Wade ever since.

It has to be jealousy because Chuck likes to pretend he's 6'4" too, and I've noticed a lot of shorter ex-NBA players-turned-commentators seem to be resentful of Wade's success. They can't get over the fact that he could do things at that size that they only dreamed of.

Newsflash, Round Mound: you couldn't hold a candle to D-Wade in his prime. Yeah, I'm from the Philly area, and I watched just about every game you played for the Sixers. You're the best rebounder ever for your size, you could score and you became an ironic three-point shooter. And it was fun to watch you power dribble the length of the court.

But, other than rebounding and, I guess, 3-point shooting, Wade has you in every other category of the game. There's a reason your line about Larry Bird being the only NBA player worse at defense than you was funny: it rang true, at least on your end. Wade was once an elite defender-- he was once elite at almost everything. You weren't. He's better than you and has the hardware to prove it. Get over it and show some respect.

[Ariza4three]

Dresta rambling again. This dude is such a fvckboy is embarrassing. :oldlol:




http://i.minus.com/ibovNT1owp74ik.gif
:roll:

[ArbitraryWater]

Dresta man :facepalm

jrong stop the Wade Gospel. Barkley > Wade all-time.

[OnFire]

"Never mention you and Meryl Streep in the same sentence. Meryl Streep would never do Snakes on a Plane and Madea"

Says someone who did Philly, Phoenix and Houston.... whiff whiff whiff. Hey 3, like Wade's titles.

Gabrielle Union probably made more money in Snakes on a plane+Madea than charles has in all his movies combined.

[mehyaM24]

Newsflash, Round Mound: you couldn't hold a candle to D-Wade in his prime. Yeah, I'm from the Philly area, and I watched just about every game you played for the Sixers. You're the best rebounder ever for your size, you could score and you became an ironic three-point shooter. And it was fun to watch you power dribble the length of the court.

But, other than rebounding and, I guess, 3-point shooting, Wade has you in every other category of the game. There's a reason your line about Larry Bird being the only NBA player worse at defense than you was funny: it rang true, at least on your end. Wade was once an elite defender-- he was once elite at almost everything. You weren't. He's better than you and has the hardware to prove it. Get over it and show some respect.

barkley doesn't need to respect a player that is CLEARLY inferior to him.

name one time wade ever won an mvp. name one time wade ever had a season like barkley did in 1990 and 1993.

you'll point to a title or two, but it's hogwash and beside the fact when we use context (the worst officiated/rigged finals in history / winning rings as a sidekick).

barkley was a double-double machine along with being one of the greatest offensive players ever, and while he didn't have the work ethic someone like david robinson or hakeem had, the guy still impacted the game to a degree his counterpart centers and fowards did. maybe even greater. his impact according to RAPM, raw stats and footage leaves wade in the dust - which is why nobody but casual watching highlight fanboys would ever rank wade over barkley, even with the sidekick titles (shows you how little appreciation REAL basketball fans have towards "along for the ride" championships).

[tontoz]

That is likely true, but it doesn't make his analysis any more insightful or praiseworthy. Just like Justin Bieber's album sales don't make his music any better.

Guy is always saying and doing incredibly stupid shit, and has been his whole life.


Seriously, how does that have anything to do with what i said? How does any of that make him less of a career loser - did those things stop him losing each and every year of his career? Nope. So get that irrelevant bullshit outta here.

And he certainly is not a consensus top 3, especially with the way he played defense.

Anyway, i cba with this and so will defer to the authority of NBA winners, like people always do on here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-ugxfIYANA

Pippen: 'I should have listened to Michael a year ago when he said that Charles will never win a championship because he doesn't show any dedication' also calls him 'fat' 'lazy' and a 'selfish guy who doesn't wanna win' - so both Pippen and MJ thought he was an NBA loser as well, it seems, and i think they know more about it than you do.

Nor is he a consensus top3 pf: Duncan, KG, Dirk and Malone all had better nba careers. Remarkable how many things you can get wrong in a single sentence, and then have the audacity to call someone else a moron!


True. But all i did was post a single response giving my opinion about Mr. Barkley, and that triggered hoards people who are for some reason quite mesmerised by me, and will never miss an opportunity to say something about me, or fling some fatuous insult my way. After that i made the mistake of trying to keep up with the responses, before realising its futility if i hoped to go outside that day.

It seems my reputation on here precedes me to the point where I can't even state the fact of Charles Barkley being a career loser without the ignorant masses pouring in to defend their parochial hero. Obviously i can't keep pace with all those morons piling in one-after-another like the flock of babbling geese that they are, and should have realised it earlier.

Thus i will bow out on a high, as this thread quickly turned into quite the waste of time. Barkley's golf swing one more time (a montage):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxLkEPb5DzI

:bowdown:

MJ was also the guy who said Barkley was the best player at the Olympic trials even though he didn't make the team before they turned pro. And Barkley was very overweight at the time.

KG only got past the first round once before going to Boston. He must have been a loser too, or maybe he was just stuck with a crap organization.

Feel free to post a link to any site that has KG ranked over Barkley all time. KG was a soft jump shooter who faded in the clutch time and time again. It was always someone else taking the big shots. He didn't have the guts.

Barkley was one of the greatest offensive forces this game has ever seen. And an elite rebounder as well. He was the undisputed best player on a Suns team that made it to the finals and were denied by MJ.

IN the playoffs he averaged 23/13 with an ortg of 120. That is hardly the resume of a loser.

[Wade's Rings]

barkley doesn't need to respect a player that is CLEARLY inferior to him.

name one time wade ever won an mvp. name one time wade ever had a season like barkley did in 1990 and 1993.

you'll point to a title or two, but it's hogwash and beside the fact when we use context (the worst officiated/rigged finals in history / winning rings as a sidekick).

barkley was a double-double machine along with being one of the greatest offensive players ever, and while he didn't have the work ethic someone like david robinson or hakeem had, the guy still impacted the game to a degree his counterpart centers and fowards did. maybe even greater. his impact according to RAPM, raw stats and footage leaves wade in the dust - which is why nobody but casual watching highlight fanboys would ever rank wade over barkley, even with the sidekick titles (shows you how little appreciation REAL basketball fans have towards "along for the ride" championships).

What are you even talking about? Is RAPM all you use for arguments when comparing players? Your Wade hate is ridiculous.

Wade's 2009 Season easily matches Barkley's 1990 & 1993 Season. Wade's team being far worse and Wade's Defense doesn't even make this a discussion. Really a Lebron stan complaining about a series being rigged? Or a Star player getting calls?

The only thing Barkley has over Wade All-Time is An MVP.

[mehyaM24]

What are you even talking about? Is RAPM all you use for arguments when comparing players? Your Wade hate is ridiculous.

Wade's 2009 Season easily matches Barkley's 1990 & 1993 Season.

i clearly suggested RAPM, raw stats AND game footage - but alright ...

and no, it doesn't. not when we include postseason play. barkley's impact on the offensive end ALONE makes him the easy choice. that, and wade flaming out shooting a mere 44% against the hawks who lebron, with an equally terrible roster, dominated and swept.


The only thing Barkley has over Wade All-Time is An MVP.
nobody rates wade ahead of barkley on an all-time level. why is that?

[lilteapot]

Can a mod lock this thread please. I never wanted it to become this pathetic shitstorm.

[KNOW1EDGE]

Why is this thread 6 pages long?

That's kinda what I was wondering. Lol

I think probably because Dresta called Chuck, Iverson, Malone, Stockton etc etc "career losers" and then there has been a bunch of back and forth about it, with Dresta writing novels in his defense

[Wade's Rings]

i clearly suggested RAPM, raw stats AND game footage - but alright ...

and no, it doesn't. not when we include postseason play. barkley's impact on the offensive end ALONE makes him the easy choice. that, and wade flaming out shooting a mere 44% against the hawks who lebron, with an equally terrible roster, dominated and swept.


nobody rates wade ahead of barkley on an all-time level. why is that?

I looked at their raw stats and Barkley has an edge on rebounding, fg%, and turnovers. Wade averages more points, assists, steals, and blocks.

Wade's Defensive Impact > Barkely's Offensive Impact. Let's act like Wade didn't produce as much offense and didn't provide more defense.

Wade didn't have any help and was playing pretty much by himself. Lebron's supporting Cast had better shooters, elite defense, elite rebounding, All-Star in Mo Williams, a Coach of the Year, and 2 other ball handlers in Mo and Delonte.
Wade had crap shooters, no elite rebounding, 2 rookies and a washed up Jermaine O'Neal Starting, a Rookie Coach, Wade had to anchor the defense.

What does Barkley have over Wade All-Time but an MVP? Wade > Barkley. Nobody has Barkley over Wade All-Time, why is that?

[aj1987]

What are you even talking about? Is RAPM all you use for arguments when comparing players? Your Wade hate is ridiculous.

Wade's 2009 Season easily matches Barkley's 1990 & 1993 Season. Wade's team being far worse and Wade's Defense doesn't even make this a discussion. Really a Lebron stan complaining about a series being rigged? Or a Star player getting calls?

The only thing Barkley has over Wade All-Time is An MVP.
It's better to just ignore the dude. He's a delusional LeTurd stan.

[AirFederer]

Love Chuck but he took the L here

[mehyaM24]

I looked at their raw stats and Barkley has an edge on rebounding, fg%, and turnovers. Wade averages more points, assists, steals, and blocks.

and in the playoffs, barkley has more points, rebounds, shoots a better percentage, and has a better player efficiency rating along with more win shares per 48. RAPM also suggests that relative to his era, barkley had more impact on the game with his offense (that includes offensive rebounds, not just scoring).

raw & advanced stats all favor barkley, and even more-so in the playoffs.


Wade's Defensive Impact > Barkely's Offensive Impact.

absolutely not. barkley's offensive impact alone is why he has a higher PER in the regular season and playoffs, more win shares, and a higher RAPM. not sure why you're throwing out opinions when i can rebut them with actual data and facts..


Nobody has Barkley over Wade All-Time, why is that?

except you're wrong.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/awards/slam_500_greatest.html
http://sportslistoftheday.com/2012/09/08/top-50-basketball-players-of-all-time-bill-simmons-vs-slam-online-vs-the-nba/
http://hoopshabit.com/2014/11/21/nba-50-greatest-players-time/33/
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=282470

and many more. find ONE credible list that has wade ahead of barkley all time. just one. :confusedshrug:

[DMAVS41]

I looked at their raw stats and Barkley has an edge on rebounding, fg%, and turnovers. Wade averages more points, assists, steals, and blocks.

Wade's Defensive Impact > Barkely's Offensive Impact. Let's act like Wade didn't produce as much offense and didn't provide more defense.

Wade didn't have any help and was playing pretty much by himself. Lebron's supporting Cast had better shooters, elite defense, elite rebounding, All-Star in Mo Williams, a Coach of the Year, and 2 other ball handlers in Mo and Delonte.
Wade had crap shooters, no elite rebounding, 2 rookies and a washed up Jermaine O'Neal Starting, a Rookie Coach, Wade had to anchor the defense.

What does Barkley have over Wade All-Time but an MVP? Wade > Barkley. Nobody has Barkley over Wade All-Time, why is that?

The bold is perhaps the dumbest thing I've heard on here in over a year. What?

You actually think Wade's defense was of higher impact than Barkley's offense? :wtf:

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

The bold is perhaps the dumbest thing I've heard on here in over a year. What?

You actually think Wade's defense was of higher impact than Barkley's offense? :wtf:

Co-sign. What in the actual fvck did I just read? :biggums:

[CJ Mustard]

Chuck > Wade, not even close. Is this really a debate right now?

[Wade's Rings]

The bold is perhaps the dumbest thing I've heard on here in over a year. What?

You actually think Wade's defense was of higher impact than Barkley's offense? :wtf:

Well that dude had me saying stuff out of frustration with his idiotic statements. Wade's combined Offensive & Defensive Impact outweighs Barkley's Offensive & Defensive Impact.

[DMAVS41]

Well that dude had me saying stuff out of frustration with his idiotic statements. Wade's combined Offensive & Defensive Impact outweighs Barkley's Offensive & Defensive Impact.

So you just think Wade was a better player. I fine opinion, but damn...easy on the Wade's defense trumps Barkley's offense stuff.

Chuck was a phenom on offense. Dude is one of the best offensive players of all time.

[Overdrive]

Well that dude had me saying stuff out of frustration with his idiotic statements. Wade's combined Offensive & Defensive Impact outweighs Barkley's Offensive & Defensive Impact.

Post offense in Barkley's era had way more impact than perimeter defense without a rim protector has in this era(or any era). You'd need 2-3 lock down guys to keep people from driving all day.

So I don't think that's actually true. Wade's offensive impact is also a notch below Barkley's so they're more or less even in total impact imo.

I'd personally prefer Barkley on my team, though.

[zoom17]

This thread man:facepalm

[qrich]

Didn't win any rings.

Derek Fisher >> Wade :rockon:

[L.Kizzle]

I'd bury my head right into Gabrielle's psuuy.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Well that dude had me saying stuff out of frustration with his idiotic statements. Wade's combined Offensive & Defensive Impact outweighs Barkley's Offensive & Defensive Impact.
You were the only one that said something stupid, though. mehya is technically correct, nobody ranks Wade ahead of Barkley.

Sir Charles is a bad mother****er.

[SHAQisGOAT]

I'd go with peak Barkley over peak Wade and I probably still have Chuck above on my all-time list (think that most do) although it's very close.

BUT... that has nothing to do with this topic tbh, I don't know why people are gettin into that whole discussion, even being very salty about the whole thing...

[SHAQisGOAT]

Wade's Defensive Impact > Barkely's Offensive Impact. Let's act like Wade didn't produce as much offense and didn't provide more defense.

:biggums:

:wtf:

That just gave you away as one extremely biased dude, just capable of throwing all logic out the window ('Wade's Rings' already being an indicator though).

And no, Wade provided terrific offense but not quite as good as Barkley. Better defense yes, but not a huge gap at all (relative to position too).
It's not just as clear as naming offense and defense (also got rebounding even) but anyways...

I'd still go with peak Chuck over peak Wade, also on the all-time list... Even if it's pretty close.

[swagga]

I'd go with peak Barkley over peak Wade and I probably still have Chuck above on my all-time list (think that most do) although it's very close.

BUT... that has nothing to do with this topic tbh, I don't know why people are gettin into that whole discussion, even being very salty about the whole thing...


peak wade has the GOAT finals series.
peak wade was an inch under peak lebron (2009)
peak wade won the gold while leading the team in ppg as a reserve.
peak wade was a 1st-team defense & 1st-team offense player

peak wade > peak chuck, basketball includes defense.

you better watch some more basketball son :facepalm

[mehyaM24]

:biggums:

:wtf:

That just gave you away as one extremely biased dude, just capable of throwing all logic out the window ('Wade's Rings' already being an indicator though).

And no, Wade provided terrific offense but not quite as good as Barkley. Better defense yes, but not a huge gap at all (relative to position too).
It's not just as clear as naming offense and defense (also got rebounding even) but anyways...

I'd still go with peak Chuck over peak Wade, also on the all-time list... Even if it's pretty close.

ya feel me? :cheers:

[Wade's Rings]

You were the only one that said something stupid, though. mehya is technically correct, nobody ranks Wade ahead of Barkley.

Sir Charles is a bad mother****er.

So Lebron's 2009 team was equally as bad as Wade's? Congrats you're as stupid as him.

[Wade's Rings]

Derek Fisher >> Wade :rockon:

You moron I was strictly saying that's the reason that they were calling Barkley a Career Loser. Read & Comprehend before you give your input.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

So Lebron's 2009 team was equally as bad as Wade's? Congrats you're as stupid as him.

I'm only referring to his Barkley and Wade comparison historically.

Good luck w/ the whole D-Wade on defense > Barkley on offense bullshit, though. :oldlol:

[Wade's Rings]

:biggums:

:wtf:

That just gave you away as one extremely biased dude, just capable of throwing all logic out the window ('Wade's Rings' already being an indicator though).

And no, Wade provided terrific offense but not quite as good as Barkley. Better defense yes, but not a huge gap at all (relative to position too).
It's not just as clear as naming offense and defense (also got rebounding even) but anyways...

I'd still go with peak Chuck over peak Wade, also on the all-time list... Even if it's pretty close.

Wade's Combined Offense & Defense > Barkley's Combined Offense & Defense.

[Wade's Rings]

I'm only referring to his Barkley and Wade comparison historically.

Good luck w/ the whole D-Wade on defense > Barkley on offense bullshit, though. :oldlol:

Well I wasn't.

That was just out of frustration but whatever I already know where your agenda lies.

[Wade's Rings]

and in the playoffs, barkley has more points, rebounds, shoots a better percentage, and has a better player efficiency rating along with more win shares per 48. RAPM also suggests that relative to his era, barkley had more impact on the game with his offense (that includes offensive rebounds, not just scoring).

raw & advanced stats all favor barkley, and even more-so in the playoffs.



absolutely not. barkley's offensive impact alone is why he has a higher PER in the regular season and playoffs, more win shares, and a higher RAPM. not sure why you're throwing out opinions when i can rebut them with actual data and facts..



except you're wrong.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/awards/slam_500_greatest.html
http://sportslistoftheday.com/2012/09/08/top-50-basketball-players-of-all-time-bill-simmons-vs-slam-online-vs-the-nba/
http://hoopshabit.com/2014/11/21/nba-50-greatest-players-time/33/
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=282470

and many more. find ONE credible list that has wade ahead of barkley all time. just one. :confusedshrug:

Wade averages more Assists, Steals, Blocks. Wade's Help & Man Defense are Superior to Barkley. You're using PER & Win Shares to back up your argument. PER has been proven to be flawed as hell. Based on PER Wade's 2006 Finals is the GOAT. Wade's Superior Defense doesn't show up on PER too.

You used an article from 2011, ISH which contains extreme bias,another article with varying opinions with some lists that have Lebron at 20
:lol

In the end it comes down to opinion for them because Wade matches up with Barkley well statistically and with Career Accolades.

[Wade's Rings]

peak wade has the GOAT finals series.
peak wade was an inch under peak lebron (2009)
peak wade won the gold while leading the team in ppg as a reserve.
peak wade was a 1st-team defense & 1st-team offense player

peak wade > peak chuck, basketball includes defense.

you better watch some more basketball son :facepalm

That's what they don't understand. They are bringing up PER and all that stuff that is completely ignoring how Superior Wade's Defense is.

[SugarHill]

That's what they don't understand. They are bringing up PER and all that stuff that is completely ignoring how Superior Wade's Defense is.

Wade has higher peak PER and career PER

[Hotlantadude81]

And what does that have to do with Barkley's comments not making the slightest bit of sense? She dissed the man, and he got all flustered and thus insulted her in a way that didn't make any sense (because she wasn't comparing herself to Streep, she was comparing herself to Barkley, because they are both career losers, which is true). Barkley is ignorant of what it takes to win, yet he has the audacity to sit on his fat ass and constantly bitch about people who are better than him.


Well, CB made the big stage... Gabby hasn't been in a movie that doesn't suck. Bad Boys II is a highlight in her career.

[JimmyMcAdocious]

10 Things I Hate About You was the best movie she's been in.

[mehyaM24]

Wade averages more Assists, Steals, Blocks. Wade's Help & Man Defense are Superior to Barkley. You're using PER & Win Shares to back up your argument. PER has been proven to be flawed as hell. Based on PER Wade's 2006 Finals is the GOAT. Wade's Superior Defense doesn't show up on PER too.

You used an article from 2011, ISH which contains extreme bias,another article with varying opinions with some lists that have Lebron at 20
:lol

In the end it comes down to opinion for them because Wade matches up with Barkley well statistically and with Career Accolades.
wade averages more assists and steals than shaq, that doesn't make him a better, more impactful player. :facepalm

and yes, i'm using per and win shares - because they measure impact. as does rapm. in the postseason? these numbers all favor barkley (his season in RAPM trumps anything wade's put forth thus far).

simply put: a double-double machine that could score with the best of them, and factually puts up more impact than an overrated 2-guard.

BTW some of those articles were written as early as 2013. which actually benefits wade considering he is now a shell of himself. the more years wade plays, those career totals you are clamoring to will be deflated.

[insidious301]

Season MVP
Charles Barkley 1
Dwyane Wade 0

Finals MVP
Charles Barkley 0
Dwyane Wade 1

All-NBA First Team
Charles Barkley 5
Dwyane Wade 2

All-NBA Teams
(Total Selections)
Charles Barkley 11
Dwyane Wade 8

All-Defensive Teams
(Total Selections)
Charles Barkley 0
Dwyane Wade 3

Scoring Leader
Charles Barkley 0
Dwyane Wade 1

Rebounds Leader
Charles Barkley 1
Dwyane Wade 0

In my opinion, Barkley has the advantage in honors. Advanced stats as well. I'm also of the belief it's not all that close.

Who know though? Maybe Wade can pull a Harry Houdini and have a throwback postseason run?

[RightTwoCensor]

Y'all hold these Ls while I report this thread to get deleted.

[insidious301]

and in the playoffs, barkley has more points, rebounds, shoots a better percentage, and has a better player efficiency rating along with more win shares per 48. RAPM also suggests that relative to his era, barkley had more impact on the game with his offense (that includes offensive rebounds, not just scoring).

raw & advanced stats all favor barkley, and even more-so in the playoffs.



absolutely not. barkley's offensive impact alone is why he has a higher PER in the regular season and playoffs, more win shares, and a higher RAPM. not sure why you're throwing out opinions when i can rebut them with actual data and facts..



except you're wrong.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/awards/slam_500_greatest.html
http://sportslistoftheday.com/2012/09/08/top-50-basketball-players-of-all-time-bill-simmons-vs-slam-online-vs-the-nba/
http://hoopshabit.com/2014/11/21/nba-50-greatest-players-time/33/
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=282470

and many more. find ONE credible list that has wade ahead of barkley all time. just one. :confusedshrug:

Stellar post. Didn't know you guys had an All-Time thread? Let me check it out...

[Wade's Rings]

wade averages more assists and steals than shaq, that doesn't make him a better, more impactful player. :facepalm

and yes, i'm using per and win shares - because they measure impact. as does rapm. in the postseason? these numbers all favor barkley (his season in RAPM trumps anything wade's put forth thus far).

simply put: a double-double machine that could score with the best of them, and factually puts up more impact than an overrated 2-guard.

BTW some of those articles were written as early as 2013. which actually benefits wade considering he is now a shell of himself. the more years wade plays, those career totals you are clamoring to will be deflated.

Averaging more points and averaging more assists doesn't create more offense for your team you're right and Defense is still being ignored.

PER doesn't even account for Man Defense. :facepalm
So you're saying that Wade's 2006 Finals Performance is the GOAT Finals Performance, thanks got it. Win Shares is also flawed but whatever.

There was only 1 article from 2014.

The only support for your argument are flawed advanced stats. Wade had the superior defense and was just as impactful on offense if anything a hair behind. :oldlol:

[Wade's Rings]

Season MVP
Charles Barkley 1
Dwyane Wade 0

Finals MVP
Charles Barkley 0
Dwyane Wade 1

All-NBA First Team
Charles Barkley 5
Dwyane Wade 2

All-NBA Teams
(Total Selections)
Charles Barkley 11
Dwyane Wade 8

All-Defensive Teams
(Total Selections)
Charles Barkley 0
Dwyane Wade 3

Scoring Leader
Charles Barkley 0
Dwyane Wade 1

Rebounds Leader
Charles Barkley 1
Dwyane Wade 0

In my opinion, Barkley has the advantage in honors. Advanced stats as well. I'm also of the belief it's not all that close.

Who know though? Maybe Wade can pull a Harry Houdini and have a throwback postseason run?

I don't mind you having Barkley above Wade. Saying it isn't close is just stupid though.

[GrapeApe]

Season MVP
Charles Barkley 1
Dwyane Wade 0

Finals MVP
Charles Barkley 0
Dwyane Wade 1

All-NBA First Team
Charles Barkley 5
Dwyane Wade 2

All-NBA Teams
(Total Selections)
Charles Barkley 11
Dwyane Wade 8

All-Defensive Teams
(Total Selections)
Charles Barkley 0
Dwyane Wade 3

Scoring Leader
Charles Barkley 0
Dwyane Wade 1

Rebounds Leader
Charles Barkley 1
Dwyane Wade 0

In my opinion, Barkley has the advantage in honors. Advanced stats as well. I'm also of the belief it's not all that close.

Who know though? Maybe Wade can pull a Harry Houdini and have a throwback postseason run?

How is it not close? By your tally Barkley has an 18-15 edge, and when you add Wade's 3 championships (not sure why you excluded them) they are dead even in accolades. Both have an Olympic gold medal as well. You want to know who would prefer Wade's resume? Charles Barkley.

For the record, I have Chuck ranked higher on my all time list (16-20 range and Wade in the 20-24 range).

[tpols]

Averaging more points and averaging more assists doesn't create more offense for your team you're right and Defense is still being ignored.

PER doesn't even account for Man Defense. :facepalm
So you're saying that Wade's 2006 Finals Performance is the GOAT Finals Performance, thanks got it. Win Shares is also flawed but whatever.

There was only 1 article from 2014.

The only support for your argument are flawed advanced stats. Wade had the superior defense and was just as impactful on offense if anything a hair behind. :oldlol:
Like others have said he's a lebron troll with an agenda against Wade..

the same guy you're arguing with says that 2006 Shaq was more important than 2006 Wade when all the PER, winshares etc he's using in this thread to prop Barkley all go in Wade's favor in the Shaq comparison.

Ironically he uses quotes to say Shaq > Wade, while in the Barkley comparison ignoring pippen comments about how Barkley was undisciplined and in general a poor leader (two worst things to be if you want to win rings).

Wade > Barkley.

[Wade's Rings]

Like others have said he's a lebron troll with an agenda against Wade..

the same guy you're arguing with says that 2006 Shaq was more important than 2006 Wade when all the PER, winshares etc he's using in this thread to prop Barkley all go in Wade's favor in the Shaq comparison.

Ironically he uses quotes to say Shaq > Wade, while in the Barkley comparison ignoring pippen comments about how Barkley was undisciplined and in general a poor leader (two worst things to be if you want to win rings).

Wade > Barkley.

Damn he's even more pathetic than i originally thought. I should have listened to AJ and ignored him.

[Jasper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jHQgJXzonY

she could bury me any day .... :pimp:

[RoseCity07]

Wow.

[mehyaM24]

Averaging more points and averaging more assists doesn't create more offense for your team you're right

this doesn't make sense. what are you saying?


PER doesn't even account for Man Defense. :facepalm
So you're saying that Wade's 2006 Finals Performance is the GOAT Finals Performance, thanks got it. Win Shares is also flawed but whatever.

you're only using PER, while i'm using a number of other metrics beside PER. bad logic on your part.

but yes - PER, winshares and RAPM all measure impact - which is exactly why i use them along with watching games.


There was only 1 article from 2014.

only enhancing my argument.


The only support for your argument are flawed advanced stats. Wade had the superior defense and was just as impactful on offense if anything a hair behind. :oldlol:

try advanced stats, game tape, AND all time rankings from various sources.

the only reason you call advanced stats "flawed" is because they're not on your side. TRUTH.

[mehyaM24]

Ironically he uses quotes to say Shaq > Wade, while in the Barkley comparison ignoring pippen comments about how Barkley was undisciplined and in general a poor leader (two worst things to be if you want to win rings).

keep in mind, shaq averaged a higher RAPM than wade did in 2006 - so no, my argument isn't just based on what players and former coaches say.

i haven't seen any quotes about barkley's play or lack of work ethic in here, so there wasn't anything to ignore really.

try harder

[305Baller]

Union killed Charles on this one.

[dude77]

lol gu is some gold digging, attention whoring nobody .. why she is even trying to talk to/about barkley .. barkley's accomplishments >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hers .. and as been mentioned .. barkley is about 24544646 the player ks is so the joke is on her .. trying to put down marino by saying dilfer has more rings than him would sound pretty fkn stupid wouldn't it

[PJR]

Ironically he uses quotes to say Shaq > Wade, while in the Barkley comparison ignoring pippen comments about how Barkley was undisciplined and in general a poor leader (two worst things to be if you want to win rings).

Yep.

Barkley is incredibly lucky that social media didn't exist during his heyday. Far too much dirt out there on him as a teammate.

Scottie Pippen



``I probably should've listened to Michael when he said that Charles will never win a championship because he doesn't show any dedication,'' Pippen told ESPN. ``He's a very selfish guy. He doesn't show the desire to want to win. That's my reason for wanting to get away from playing with him - because he just doesn't show the dedication.''


``I was very shocked to see what type of player he was by spending half a season with him. I'm a guy that's dedicated to winning, and I put out a lot of effort on the court.

``I expect that from my teammates, especially from a guy of his
caliber.''

Drexler didn't care too much for Barkley and his lack of work ethic either.



"What it came down to was money," said Chuck. "Everyone said Clyde and I didn't get along, but it was about guys bent on getting their contracts redone, and when that didn't happen, those guys decided, 'I'm going to make it miserable around here.'"

Drexler responded, "My response to Charles is 'Grow up'. He was the one who was 28 pounds overweight last year. Not me





Armon Gilliam, former teammate of Barkley in Philadelphia:


Armon Gilliam says Charles Barkley is the 76ers' most visible player, that he's a great talent.

But their leader?

"In my opinion, young players can look to Charles as a great talent, but not as a leader," Gilliam said yesterday.


"To me, young players shouldn't fashion themselves after (Barkley),

because of his behavior off the court, sometimes on the court," Gilliam said. ''Off the court, he does things that often don't represent the team well. On the court, he doesn't always discipline himself as he should."




"He's our most visible player, but, to me, not the type to provide leadership," Gilliam said. "Not like Magic (Johnson, before retiring from the Los Angeles Lakers), not like Michael (Jordan, of the Chicago Bulls), or Larry (Bird, of the Boston Celtics). What they do is all conducive to winning, to making (teammates) better, to building chemistry.


http://articles.philly.com/1991-12-18/sports/25810201_1_armon-gilliam-sixers-roy-s-johnson




There's also an excerpt in John Wooden's book, "A Lifetime of observations and reflections", where he too was critical Barkley, claiming he wasn't the best of team players, and cared mostly about boosting his stats.

Chuck was dominant offensive player and rebounder. But he was also fat, lazy, undisciplined, and undersized defensive liability too.

[dude77]

Yep.

Barkley is incredibly lucky that social media didn't exist during his heyday. Far too much dirt out there on him as a teammate.

Scottie Pippen



Drexler didn't care too much for Barkley and his lack of work ethic either.






Armon Gilliam, former teammate of Barkley in Philadelphia:




There's also an excerpt in John Wooden's book, "A Lifetime of observations and reflections", where he too was critical Barkley, claiming he wasn't the best of team players, and cared mostly about boosting his stats.

Chuck was dominant offensive player and rebounder. But he was also fat, lazy, undisciplined, and undersized defensive liability too.

and still 23524354256452 levels above union .. wade you's be slippin dawg .. learn to keep your over the hill ho's mouth in check

[CJ Mustard]

Union killed Charles on this one.
By using the same tired "no rings" diss that was played out 10 years ago? Barkley roasted her.

[aj1987]

and still 23524354256452 levels above union .. wade you's be slippin dawg .. learn to keep your over the hill ho's mouth in check
WTF does anything he said have to do with Wade? Get those KKK nuts out of your mouth, bitch.

[305Baller]

By using the same tired "no rings" diss that was played out 10 years ago? Barkley roasted her.

Its funny because it's true though.