Manny vs Floyd happening!!!

[Nash]

according to tmz.
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

finally dudes:rockon: :rockon:

[L.Kizzle]

according to tmz.
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

finally dudes:rockon: :rockon:
Bob Velin (@BobVelin) tweeted at 7:49pm - 30 Jan 15:

Bob Arum and Michael Koncz told me they know nothing about a done deal. Since they are Pacquiao's main power brokers, I believe them #boxing

[BigBoss]

Bob Velin (@BobVelin) tweeted at 7:49pm - 30 Jan 15:

Bob Arum and Michael Koncz told me they know nothing about a done deal. Since they are Pacquiao's main power brokers, I believe them #boxing

TMZ though..

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

How many belts do these guys hold? and will they all be on the line?

[L.Kizzle]

How many belts do these guys hold? and will they all be on the line?
Mayweather has four, Floyd has one.

[BigBoss]

in fairness to TMZ, they have broke some big sports stories before

but when it comes to manny/floyd... i'll believe it when I see it (aka the night they fight)

This.

[Meticode]

Mayweather has four, Floyd has one.
...

[L.Kizzle]

...
My bad.

Floyd has four, Mayweather has one.

[hateraid]

My bad.

Floyd has four, Mayweather has one.
:lol
And this dude cut me down for not knowing how to post gifs

[PistonsFan#21]

My bad.

Floyd has four, Mayweather has one.

nigguh how high are you?

:biggums:

[TheMarkMadsen]

no way

[L.Kizzle]

:lol
And this dude cut me down for not knowing how to post gifs
:oldlol:

[hateraid]

:lol
:oldlol:
:cheers:

[L.Kizzle]

:lol
:cheers:
:bowdown:

[Rodmantheman]

Would have been better 4-5 years ago.

[ace23]

Would have been better 4-5 years ago.
:kobe:

****** will take any opportunity to complain.

[Wally450]

:kobe:

****** will take any opportunity to complain.

This.

People are saying they're not gonna watch the fight because they're both old and it would've been better 5 years ago...... Fine don't watch it then. The rest of us will enjoy the biggest fight in boxing history.

[Rodmantheman]

This.

People are saying they're not gonna watch the fight because they're both old and it would've been better 5 years ago...... Fine don't watch it then. The rest of us will enjoy the biggest fight in boxing history.

:roll:

[Angel Face]

:roll:

You're laughing but it's true. Once this fight happens it will be the biggest ppv in Boxing history.

[~primetime~]

Biggest PPV fight =/= biggest fight

[~primetime~]

Not in history but it is the biggest fight of this generation if we're going by 2000-present.
Yeah well that's really not saying much

[L.Kizzle]

Not in history but it is the biggest fight of this generation if we're going by 2000-present.
Joe Lewis vs Max Schmeling

[LJJ]

:kobe:

****** will take any opportunity to complain.

I'm happy, but no doubt the fight would have been much more exciting if both fighters were on top. The last time Manny knocked anybody out was 10 fights ago.

I bet you are the same guy who thought the Roy Jones - Hopkins rematch was exciting.

[ArbitraryWater]

My bad.

Floyd has four, Mayweather has one.


:roll: :roll:

[SCREWstonRockets]

Biggest PPV fight =/= biggest fight
biggest fight in the last 20 years because of the times we are living in now with the digial age and social media and all that stuff. these two showed up at a basketball game and the internet went nuts lol. Bigger than Mayweather-De La Hoya (Floyd a bigger name now) and bigger than Tyson-Lewis.

Anyway, TMZ already back tracked and basically stated what we all have known for the past week. Its getting there, nothing official, no contracts signed. its crazy the power that TMZ carries though. Boxing sites have reported the same thing over a week, TMZ sends out one tweet and its official! lol

[L.Kizzle]

biggest fight in the last 20 years because of the times we are living in now with the digial age and social media and all that stuff. these two showed up at a basketball game and the internet went nuts lol. Bigger than Mayweather-De La Hoya (Floyd a bigger name now) and bigger than Tyson-Lewis.

Anyway, TMZ already back tracked and basically stated what we all have known for the past week. Its getting there, nothing official, no contracts signed. its crazy the power that TMZ carries though. Boxing sites have reported the same thing over a week, TMZ sends out one tweet and its official! lol
TMZ is bigger than CNN.
TMZ reported Michael Jackson getting rushed to the hospital like an hour before CNN and other top news picked up on it.

Imagine if TMZ was around back in the day. They would have probably been outside the hotel room when Elvis died on the commode.

[Rodmantheman]

You're laughing but it's true. Once this fight happens it will be the biggest ppv in Boxing history.

The hype surrounding the fight will be unreal. The actual fight will be pretty boring with one guy running around the ring most of the time.

[L.Kizzle]

The hype surrounding the fight will be unreal. The actual fight will be pretty boring with one guy running around the ring most of the time.
Hey, did Ali run too?

[Angel Face]

The hype surrounding the fight will be unreal. The actual fight will be pretty boring with one guy running around the ring most of the time.

Best offensive fighter of this era vs best defensive fighter of this era. How's that boring?

[Lebron23]

Manny needs to cut off the ring better in order for him to beat Floyd Mayweather.

[DonDadda59]

Shit's never gonna happen bruhs. Best you can hope for is Floyd-Cotto 2, but he'll most likely go on another long 'vacation'.

Let it go.

[PistonsFan#21]

Yea blame it on Floyd when BoB Arum is clearly the one getting in the way of this fight.

A week ago he was saying how the contract was signed on their part and everything was agreed on..And now today hes saying that theres still alot of issues they need to take care of and he'd like to move the fight date to June to get more time to promote it :rolleyes:

[RoundMoundOfReb]

I'll believe it when i see the presser at this point.

[DonDadda59]

Yea blame it on Floyd when BoB Arum is clearly the one getting in the way of this fight.



:roll:

You'll parrot anything Floyd says. Please explain how Bob Arum is clearly getting in the way of the fight.

[L.Kizzle]

:roll:

You'll parrot anything Floyd says. Please explain how Bob Arum is clearly getting in the way of the fight.
Past 2 weels Arum has been saying a contract has been signed when one doesn't even exist.

[DonDadda59]

Past 2 weels Arum has been saying a contract has been signed when one doesn't even exist.

Didn't he just say that Pac had agreed to the terms Floyd laid out (60/40 split, the date, the venue, drug testing, etc)? How is calling for the fighters to sign contracts a way of stopping a fight? :confusedshrug:

And it looks like the issue is with the networks, Bob Arum doesn't work for either Showtime or HBO. He's most likely not even involved in those talks. He did his part- he's the one that sought out Les Moonves (head of CBS) and got him together with Plepler (President of HBO). He agreed to all of Floyd's terms, including making him a co-promoter of the fight (despite Mayweather promotions never doing anything remotely close to a big fight).

So again... how is that preventing the fight from happening?

[L.Kizzle]

Didn't he just say that Pac had agreed to the terms Floyd laid out (60/40 split, the date, the venue, drug testing, etc)? How is calling for the fighters to sign contracts a way of stopping a fight? :confusedshrug:

And it looks like the issue is with the networks, Bob Arum doesn't work for either Showtime or HBO. He's most likely not even involved in those talks. He did his part- he's the one that sought out Les Moonves (head of CBS) and got him together with Plepler (President of HBO). He agreed to all of Floyd's terms, including making him a co-promoter of the fight (despite Mayweather promotions never doing anything remotely close to a big fight).

So again... how is that preventing the fight from happening?
The past 2 weeks up until they met at the Heat game, Arum and Manny damn near everyday would say something about Floyd not signing or he's scared, ect. They've been noticeably quiet since that day.

[DonDadda59]

The past 2 weeks up until they met at the Heat game, Arum and Manny damn near everyday would say something about Floyd not signing or he's scared, ect. They've been noticeably quiet since that day.

No they haven't. Arum does like 3 interviews a day :oldlol:

You still haven't explained to me how Arum agreeing to every single one of Floyd's terms and getting everyone together in the first place (HBO, Showtime/CBS) = preventing the fight.

I'll wait.

[PistonsFan#21]

No they haven't. Arum does like 3 interviews a day :oldlol:

You still haven't explained to me how Arum agreeing to every single one of Floyd's terms and getting everyone together in the first place (HBO, Showtime/CBS) = preventing the fight.

I'll wait.

:no:

How did he agree to all the terms if he just said in an interview yesterday that he prefers to schedule the fight in June instead of May and that theres a lot of other issues that still need to be solved?

Hes claiming that the May date should be reserved for Mexican fighters yet he had no problem with it when Pacquiao fought Mosley and Hatton on that same date

[DonDadda59]

:no:

How did he agree to all the terms if he just said in an interview yesterday that he prefers to schedule the fight in June instead of May and that theres a lot of other issues that still need to be solved?

Hes claiming that the May date should be reserved for Mexican fighters yet he had no problem with it when Pacquiao fought Mosley and Hatton on that same date

From an article posted earlier today:

"Neither Mayweather nor Pacquiao are Mexicans, but I clearly said that if that's what it takes to make the fight, then we'd go along with May 2nd".

http://www.boxingscene.com/arum-on-mayweather-pacquiao-lot-issues-solve--86915

Keep reaching, bruh. Arum is the one who got the ball rolling by getting CBS/Showtime and HBO together to hammer out a deal while agreeing to ALL of Floyd's demands.

But he's killing the fight doe.

[PistonsFan#21]

From an article posted earlier today:

"Neither Mayweather nor Pacquiao are Mexicans, but I clearly said that if that's what it takes to make the fight, then we'd go along with May 2nd".

http://www.boxingscene.com/arum-on-mayweather-pacquiao-lot-issues-solve--86915

Keep reaching, bruh. Arum is the one who got the ball rolling by getting CBS/Showtime and HBO together to hammer out a deal while agreeing to ALL of Floyd's demands.

But he's killing the fight doe.

Why didnt you quote the last paragraph of that interview?? The part where Arum says theres still alot of issues to be taken care of because big money is involved.

So hes saying that the contract was all done and he signed his part but somehow theres still a long way to go and issues that need to be fixed :rolleyes:

And again where was his concern with that Mexican date when Pacquiao was fighting Hatton and Mosley?

[DonDadda59]

Why didnt you quote the last paragraph of that interview?? The part where Arum says theres still alot of issues to be taken care of because big money is involved.

So hes saying that the contract was all done and he signed his part but somehow theres still a long way to go and issues that need to be fixed :rolleyes:

And again where was his concern with that Mexican date when Pacquiao was fighting Hatton and Mosley?

The only issues that remain pertain to the network distribution deal. Arum is not involved in those talks as he does not work for either Showtime/CBS or HBO. That is a separate issue. The fighters agreement has been greenlit by Pacquiao and Top Rank. The split, the date, the venue, the drug testing, the promotional credits, down to who comes into the ring last. Everything Floyd wanted, he got. Only thing that could possibly stop the fight at this point is the networks making some miniscule issue the impediment to a possible $250 million fight... or Floyd deciding (again) he doesn't want the fight for no particular reason.

[PistonsFan#21]

The only issues that remain pertain to the network distribution deal. Arum is not involved in those talks as he does not work for either Showtime/CBS or HBO. That is a separate issue. The fighters agreement has been greenlit by Pacquiao and Top Rank. The split, the date, the venue, the drug testing, the promotional credits, down to who comes into the ring last. Everything Floyd wanted, he got. Only thing that could possibly stop the fight at this point is the networks making some miniscule issue the impediment to a possible $250 million fight... or Floyd deciding (again) he doesn't want the fight for no particular reason.

According to who? If that was the only issue left to take care of he would have said so. Also he clearly said "It's a big deal and it takes time to negotiate a fight" which suggests that no contract was actually signed for any side yet and that they are still talking it over.

You take everything Bob Arum says as a fact and run with it when he keeps on contradicting himself

[DonDadda59]

According to who?

Dan Rafael at ESPN, Kevin Iole at Yahoo Sports, Stephen Espinoza at Showtime, and several other unnamed sources leaking details to the media.

But Bob Arum tryna kill the fight because he pointed out Floyd and Manny aren't Mexicans :oldlol:

Educate yourself on a subject before speaking up about it. A little bit of advice you can use in all areas of your life. :cheers:

[PistonsFan#21]

Dan Rafael at ESPN, Kevin Iole at Yahoo Sports, Stephen Espinoza at Showtime, and several other unnamed sources leaking details to the media.

But Bob Arum tryna kill the fight because he pointed out Floyd and Manny aren't Mexicans :oldlol:

Educate yourself on a subject before speaking up about it. A little bit of advice you can use in all areas of your life. :cheers:

Care to give me a link of Dan Rafael, Kevin Iole or Stephen Espinoza saying the only issue left to resolve is with the networks? Those guys are just reporting whatever Bob Arum tells them. You act as if they're in the negotiations room and taking part in the discussion.

Here's a recent post from Dan Rafael's blog by the way: http://espn.go.com/blog/dan-rafael/post/_/id/11815/mayweather-pacquiao-not-set-yet

[QUOTE]Showtime Sports general manager Stephen Espinoza, who is involved in the negotiations, wrote on Twitter after the story was posted,

[DonDadda59]

Care to give me a link of Dan Rafael, Kevin Iole or Stephen Espinoza saying the only issue left to resolve is with the networks? Those guys are just reporting whatever Bob Arum tells them. You act as if they're in the negotiations room and taking part in the discussion.

Here's a recent post from Dan Rafael's blog by the way: http://espn.go.com/blog/dan-rafael/post/_/id/11815/mayweather-pacquiao-not-set-yet



just a heads up so you keep up to date homie :cheers:

Dont believe all the gossips you hear from TMZ next time :lol

From the damn link you yourself provided:


While many are hopeful the fight will finalized -- May 2 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas is the date and venue if a deal is completed -- there are still a number of issues, mainly on the broadcasting side.

AKA the date and venue have been agreed to and the broadcasting deal is the hold up. Good job, play boy. :oldlol:

[PistonsFan#21]

From the damn link you yourself provided:


While many are hopeful the fight will finalized -- May 2 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas is the date and venue if a deal is completed -- there are still a number of issues, mainly on the broadcasting side.

AKA the date and venue have been agreed to and the broadcasting deal is the hold up. Good job, play boy. :oldlol:


Please go read the definition of mainly online and then get back to me. Do you understand what they mean by a number of issues? How can you have a contract signed and still have unresolved issues. Come on bruh stop making a fool of yourself.

First you were saying the only issue left was the broadcasting one and then you go and quote a paragraph that clearly states theres still issues other than the broadcasting one.

"Not that close on deal terms" is exactly what was said in Dan Rafaels blog.

[DonDadda59]

Please go read the definition of mainly online and then get back to me. Do you understand what they mean by a number of issues? How can you have a contract signed and still have unresolved issues. Come on bruh stop making a fool of yourself.

First you were saying the only issue left was the broadcasting one and then you go and quote a paragraph that clearly states theres still issues other than the broadcasting one.

"Not that close on deal terms" is exactly what was said in Dan Rafaels blog.

From multiple sources, it's clear the only issue remaining is the broadcast/network deal. Please find me any source from anywhere (not counting Floyd 'I'm on Vacation' Mayweather) that lists any outstanding issues related to the fighter agreement (ie the split, venue, date, drug testing, etc). I mean Bob Arum is holding up the fight as you said, 'clearly' was the word you used right?

Please, show us exactly how Bob is holding things up. Be specific.

[Rooster]

From multiple sources, it's clear the only issue remaining is the broadcast/network deal. Please find me any source from anywhere (not counting Floyd 'I'm on Vacation' Mayweather) that lists any outstanding issues related to the fighter agreement (ie the split, venue, date, drug testing, etc). I mean Bob Arum is holding up the fight as you said, 'clearly' was the word you used right?

Please, show us exactly how Bob is holding things up. Be specific.

I have the feeling Floyd will announced the fight today regardless of the Network situation. He's like cornered and checkmated. He wanted Cotto but now that Canelo said he will fight Kirkland in May 2 if Floyd does not fight Pacquiao so Floyd has no other choice. He can't fight Cotto on the same date because Oscar said Canelo will fight Kirkland on that date on HBO with no PPV. I'm pretty sure Al Haymon and Showtime told him you have to face your fear.

[PistonsFan#21]

From multiple sources, it's clear the only issue remaining is the broadcast/network deal. Please find me any source from anywhere (not counting Floyd 'I'm on Vacation' Mayweather) that lists any outstanding issues related to the fighter agreement (ie the split, venue, date, drug testing, etc). I mean Bob Arum is holding up the fight as you said, 'clearly' was the word you used right?

Please, show us exactly how Bob is holding things up. Be specific.

You seriously need to learn reading between the lines...You just take whatever Bob Arum and TMZ tells you and run with it as if its facts. I just proved you that broadcasting isnt the only issue with links and the authors you mentioned yourself yet you keep trying to argue otherwise. Now HBO is issuing a statement about the fight:

http://www.boxinginsider.com/columns/hbo-points-accusing-finger-manny-pacquiao-floyd-mayweather/
[QUOTE]HBO Sports on Monday took the singular, possibly unprecedented step of releasing a statement on the negotiations to create a fight between Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather on May 2, and the statement wasn