Wilt haters

[DaRkJaWs]

You can go f yourselves. Someone on ish TODAY found it blasphemous that I suggested wilt would average at least 18 rpg, and all of you want to bring wilt down by suggesting his average would be no more than 15/16 rpg. And what happens? Hassan whiteside, someone smaller than wilt and less athletic, gets 24 rebounds in 29 minutes. Once again, go f yourselves. 1962 wilt TODaY would average, MINIMUM, 35 ppg, 18 rpg, 6 bpg, get over it. And f yourselves with a metal rod while you try to do that.

[CelticBaller]

Wilt is dead, hop off his decomposed dick

[Lebronxrings]

Wilt is a poor mans javale McGee. He's a decent player who would averageb10ppg, 7rebs. End of discussion.

[DaRkJaWs]

He's dead, so stop spitting on his grave and respect him for what he did if not who he was.

[Marchesk]

Wilt is a poor mans javale McGee. He's a decent player who would averageb10ppg, 7rebs. End of discussion.

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[navy]

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Body looks kinda weak. Arms have good size, but the adominal and legs are extremely lacking. Not even trolling.

[navy]

Dat hgh era. :bowdown:

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[Young X]

Those averages are unlikely because:

- He wouldn't be playing 48+ minutes a game like he did in the 60's.

- The number of possessions in games now are significantly lower than they were back then.

It's not disrespectful, just the truth. He'll probably average 28/14/3+blks in the modern era.

[DaRkJaWs]

He would average between 40-42 these days. If you want to adjust for pace wilt would actually average 43 ppg, but since we are adjusting minutes down 35 ppg seems reasonable. He would easily average 18 rpg and 6 bpg, and it isn't even close. So back up son.

[SouBeachTalents]

A couple of different perspectives on what Wilt's numbers would look like today

http://hoops-nation.com/community/topic/49040-what-would-wilt-chamberlains-stats-be-in-todays-nba/
http://chasing23.com/wilt-chamberlain-stats-debate/

[Genaro]

Hassan did this in one game, average that much is another thing. 28/15 seems more likely and even that is a lot.

[deja vu]

Why is it called "hating" to be realistic?

Wilt won't average 35 ppg or 18 rpg because of the far slower pace than in the 60s.

The past 25 years only Kobe averaged 35 ppg and he was chucking like hell and shooting tons of 3s. Even MDE Shaq averaged less than 30 ppg.

26-28 ppg and 13-15 rpg are MVP type numbers. Why are you upset that Wilt won't average 35 ppg and 18 rpg? So just because some guy went off 1 game you now think that Wilt would do the same every game? LMAO

[coin24]

Dat hgh era. :bowdown:

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Damn bran has a tiny buldge:lol :lol

[coin24]

Wilt would avg 20/12 at best nowadays.. He wouldn't be playing against 5 foot white guys..

[DatAsh]

His 50ppg season would probably be something like 40/15/3 today.

Definitely a wag, but my best wag says he'd average something like 20-23/14-16/3-4 on 55-60% if his career took the same path, and that's a big if. Wilt was capable of putting up better stats than he actually did.

[T_L_P]

His 50ppg season would probably be something like 40/15/3 today.

Definitely a wag, but my best wag says he'd average something like 20-23/14-16/3-4 on 55-60% if his career took the same path, and that's a big if. Wilt was capable of putting up better stats than he actually did.

Even though most accounts say he tried breaking as many statistical records as he could?

[La Frescobaldi]

Even though most accounts say he tried breaking as many statistical records as he could?

The one that makes me mad was 35 consecutive field goals in a row without a miss.
Since they were intentionally fouling him about the last 10 in a row and couldn't stop him from making them anyhow, he should have made it 50 without a miss.

[dunksby]

His 50ppg season would probably be something like 40/15/3 today.

Definitely a wag, but my best wag says he'd average something like 20-23/14-16/3-4 on 55-60% if his career took the same path, and that's a big if. Wilt was capable of putting up better stats than he actually did.
GSW with the fastest pace in the league are sitting at 98 while PHI's pace was 131 who also led the league in pace. Considering Wilt was not as skilled in the post as other all-time great bigs and couple that with his atrocious FT shooting; there is no way in hell he could average anything near 40PPG. On the other hand he could definitely average 15RPG and 3 blocks, so something like 28/15/3.

[DaRkJaWs]

GSW with the fastest pace in the league are sitting at 98 while PHI's pace was 131 who also led the league in pace. Considering Wilt was not as skilled in the post as other all-time great bigs and couple that with his atrocious FT shooting; there is no way in hell he could average anything near 40PPG. On the other hand he could definitely average 15RPG and 3 blocks, so something like 28/15/3.
We've already adjusted for pace: wilt would be at 42-43 ppg, ******. And FYI, his 1962 season is still the single season leader for free throws attempted and made (actually jerry west scored 2 more free throws than him in a different year I believe, so it's 2nd all time). Oh, and he shot 63% from the line that year, so go **** yourself.

[DaRkJaWs]

Body looks kinda weak. Arms have good size, but the adominal and legs are extremely lacking. Not even trolling.
That's because he had track legs, not squat or bicycle legs. Oh, and even Mohammad Ali's abs would be lacking in today's era, fool. It's cosmetic and nothing more. Athletes like wilt and Ali had explosive strength, ie real strength. Athletes today like lebron have hgh.

[Deuce Bigalow]

He would average between 40-42 these days. If you want to adjust for pace wilt would actually average 43 ppg, but since we are adjusting minutes down 35 ppg seems reasonable. He would easily average 18 rpg and 6 bpg, and it isn't even close. So back up son.
Lol 40 ppg I don't think even laz would go that far..

[DaRkJaWs]

Lol 40 ppg I don't think even laz would go that far..
It's only a simple pace adjustment. Anyway I think he would average 35.

[Deuce Bigalow]

It's only a simple pace adjustment. Anyway I think he would average 35.
Even if he did he would be losing and taking a bunch of shots to get those points. A Wilt as the #1 scorer won zero rings remember that.

[SouBeachTalents]

Even if he did he would be losing and taking a bunch of shots to get those points. A Wilt as the #1 scorer won zero rings remember that.

He actually led the '67 76ers in ppg

[Straight_Ballin]

Wilts presence in the 90s has zero bearing on Jordan walking out of the 90's with 6 FMVP and 6 rings, this we know for certain.

[Deuce Bigalow]

He actually led the '67 76ers in ppg
Not in the playoffs

[dunksby]

We've already adjusted for pace: wilt would be at 42-43 ppg, ******. And FYI, his 1962 season is still the single season leader for free throws attempted and made (actually jerry west scored 2 more free throws than him in a different year I believe, so it's 2nd all time). Oh, and he shot 63% from the line that year, so go **** yourself.
Give me his Per 100 stats, so we can we being to adjust for pace, secondly Wilt is not going to average 17FTA neither is he going to take 40FGA a game. Once you get that into your thick head consider that Wilt shot 50% during his 50PPG season so there is no way he is going to average 42PPG on 50%FG playing at a pace of 98.

[3ball]

Those averages are unlikely because:

- He wouldn't be playing 48+ minutes a game like he did in the 60's.

- The number of possessions in games now are significantly lower than they were back then.

It's not disrespectful, just the truth. He'll probably average 28/14/3+blks in the modern era.
the problem with this thinking is that other guys get 14 rebs per game that are nowhere near wilt - like kevin love or dwight howard for example.

as for 3+ blocks, try 6 or more, and 30+ ppg is likely

people don't realize how massive wilt was - no one has ever been able to finish over big guys the way wilt did.
.

[Asukal]

the problem with this thinking is that other guys get 14 rebs per game that are nowhere near wilt - like kevin love or dwight howard for example.

as for 3+ blocks, try 6 or more, and 30+ ppg is likely

people don't realize how massive wilt was - no one has ever been able to finish over big guys the way wilt did.
.

Simple question: Jordan or Wilt? :basketball

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Nobody is getting 6 ****ing blocks in the modern NBA with the amount of 3 pointers being shot. Also affects rebound totals. I'd see Wilt in the 14ish range for rebounds. 3-4 for blocks. Probably 25-28 points 2-4 assists.

[StephHamann]

Wilt resurrected

WILTside :applause:

LAZERUS should watch this kid, he is good fap material

[r0drig0lac]

trolls

[Marchesk]

Give me his Per 100 stats, so we can we being to adjust for pace, secondly Wilt is not going to average 17FTA neither is he going to take 40FGA a game. Once you get that into your thick head consider that Wilt shot 50% during his 50PPG season so there is no way he is going to average 42PPG on 50%FG playing at a pace of 98.

He's not going to get those amount of attempts, but his FG% would go up. Wilt did shoot 68% scoring 24 ppg in 66/67. So if he's volume scoring today, we can guess somewhere between 55-60%.

As for rebounding and blocked shots, it's hard to see how Wilt wouldn't be superior to Love and Ibaka. He's bigger, longer and stronger than both of them.

But he's also not playing 48 minutes a game, and there is the shifted focus on perimeter play and the 3pt line. So those are factors as well.

[Psileas]

Wilt would be able to lead the league in 4 different main statistical categories if he wanted (and lead centers in at least 1 more). But I'm not going to project his stats unless I know what roster he's playing for.


Even though most accounts say he tried breaking as many statistical records as he could?

Even though this is no different than what pretty much any modern superstar does (not necessarily break as many records, but setting the best individual stats he can) and gets praised for this?


Give me his Per 100 stats, so we can we being to adjust for pace, secondly Wilt is not going to average 17FTA neither is he going to take 40FGA a game. Once you get that into your thick head consider that Wilt shot 50% during his 50PPG season so there is no way he is going to average 42PPG on 50%FG playing at a pace of 98.

I hope, however, you also realize that on a lower pace, Wilt's %'s go up.


GSW with the fastest pace in the league are sitting at 98 while PHI's pace was 131 who also led the league in pace. Considering Wilt was not as skilled in the post as other all-time great bigs and couple that with his atrocious FT shooting; there is no way in hell he could average anything near 40PPG. On the other hand he could definitely average 15RPG and 3 blocks, so something like 28/15/3.

What exactly gives you any clue that Wilt wasn't as skilled in the post as other all-time bigs, when it's obvious that, having grown up in an era that the best big man moves he could copy belonged to George Mikan, he innovated like crazy and had already set the bar way higher than any big man ever had? Do you similarly think that H.S or college kids that perform between the legs dunks are more skilled dunkers than Dr.J or Jordan?
I love how you want his stats pace adjusted to fit this era, but you refuse to do so when it comes to the evolution of skills and assume he'd have exploited his skills the exact same way he did back in the 50's and 60's.

[La Frescobaldi]

Even if he did he would be losing and taking a bunch of shots to get those points. A Wilt as the #1 scorer won zero rings remember that.
If he had Scottie Pippen & Dennis Rodman on his team it would have been a very, very different story remember that.

[SouBeachTalents]

If he had Scottie Pippen & Dennis Rodman on his team it would have been a very, very different story.

Wilt had decent help. He had a good second option in Philly with Greer, as well as top notch defenders through the years like Gola, Attles, and Luke Jackson. Then in L.A. he had Jerry West who was straight ballin

[DaRkJaWs]

Nobody is getting 6 ****ing blocks in the modern NBA with the amount of 3 pointers being shot. Also affects rebound totals. I'd see Wilt in the 14ish range for rebounds. 3-4 for blocks. Probably 25-28 points 2-4 assists.
Oh look, it's the mofo who I originally referred to, mortified that wilt could possibly average 18 rpg. GTFO of here u pos.

[Psileas]

Wilt had decent help. He had a good second option in Philly with Greer, as well as top notch defenders through the years like Gola, Attles, and Luke Jackson. Then in L.A. he had Jerry West who was straight ballin

Greer choked hard in 1966 and ECF7 of 1968, while nobody remembers this - they only remember him being a great player, but not his shortcomings.
West missed the '71 playoffs, Wilt was coming off an injury in 1970 and West wasn't "balling" as much during the '73 Finals.
None of the Bulls' stars ever missed any playoff series, let alone the entire playoffs in general - and we know that when their #1 star came off temporary retirement, they couldn't win it all (expected).
The rest aren't on par with the players you mentioned.

[DatAsh]

Wilt had decent help. He had a good second option in Philly with Greer, as well as top notch defenders through the years like Gola, Attles, and Luke Jackson. Then in L.A. he had Jerry West who was straight ballin

Wilt had more help than Jordan, but he also played in an era when everyone else did too.

[dunksby]

He's not going to get those amount of attempts, but his FG% would go up. Wilt did shoot 68% scoring 24 ppg in 66/67. So if he's volume scoring today, we can guess somewhere between 55-60%.

As for rebounding and blocked shots, it's hard to see how Wilt wouldn't be superior to Love and Ibaka. He's bigger, longer and stronger than both of them.

But he's also not playing 48 minutes a game, and there is the shifted focus on perimeter play and the 3pt line. So those are factors as well.
Wilt would shoot at a very high percentage in today's league if he were to take lets's 18-22FGA and I agree with your 55-60% estimate. I think his best season could be around 28-30PPG/16-18RPG/4-5BPG. Another factor to consider is that shitty teams like some of those Wilt was part of would just tank, no coach would let him ruin a tank job by giving him free reign and winning more games. Come to think of it, if Wilt was on the current PHI we'd be hearing rumors about how they might shut down Wilt for the season or something :lol

[DMV2]

His 50/25 season would be like 32/16 today, which would still make him the best player in the league and be talk of GOAT status.

[dunksby]

Wilt would be able to lead the league in 4 different main statistical categories if he wanted (and lead centers in at least 1 more). But I'm not going to project his stats unless I know what roster he's playing for.



Even though this is no different than what pretty much any modern superstar does (not necessarily break as many records, but setting the best individual stats he can) and gets praised for this?



I hope, however, you also realize that on a lower pace, Wilt's %'s go up.



What exactly gives you any clue that Wilt wasn't as skilled in the post as other all-time bigs, when it's obvious that, having grown up in an era that the best big man moves he could copy belonged to George Mikan, he innovated like crazy and had already set the bar way higher than any big man ever had? Do you similarly think that H.S or college kids that perform between the legs dunks are more skilled dunkers than Dr.J or Jordan?
I love how you want his stats pace adjusted to fit this era, but you refuse to do so when it comes to the evolution of skills and assume he'd have exploited his skills the exact same way he did back in the 50's and 60's.
I think you misunderstood me, I'm not saying bigs right now are more skilled by default, actually I'm very critical of today's NBA for lacking skilled bigs. I said Wilt's offensive prowess in the post is not on par with other all-time greats and that's purely off footage I have seen. You say you have watched Wilt live and believe he was on par with them, well I guess I take your word for it unless there are other long time fans who believe otherwise.
What do you think Wilt's best season numbers would be like?

[HomieWeMajor]

I am the number 2 Wilt fan on this site (after JLAUBER) as you can see from my avi and I am ready to admit that Wilt is an overrated statpadder. I will no longer make videos about him and I will be closing down my youtube channel. Also he is 6'10.5 in barefeet.

[La Frescobaldi]

Wilt had decent help. He had a good second option in Philly with Greer, as well as top notch defenders through the years like Gola, Attles, and Luke Jackson. Then in L.A. he had Jerry West who was straight ballin
Luke Jackson was terrific no question about it.

I never saw Gola but Attles was a second tier role player. He was not a top notch defender nor did he have much of a jumper; got rattled on the court and would fall out of an offense; lost his temper a lot.

Injuries did in the '68 repeatable Sixers - nothing else. They were one of the greatest teams in history, probably the greatest ever to get ruined by injuries in the playoffs.
The Logo was at the end of his career; his last great playoffs was in '70; he missed the playoffs in '71 and did very very little offensively in the '72 Finals.

He did have decent help; he only had Finals level help 4 seasons, that I know of, '67-'69, and '72... and in two of those his team blew up with injuries, in '69 he went down himself.

They went to the Finals in '70 but the Knicks had one of the most stacked teams in history and destroyed the Lakers from downtown.

I notice you don't mention Baylor and nor should you. Havlicek, Sanders, DeBusschere, Lucas all >> by that time. His defense was atrocious and his offense so bad the strongest teams just left him alone in the corner unguarded.

[Lebronxrings]

if you think wilt would average over 15 ppg and 10 rebs, you're delusional