Whiteside vs DeAndre Jordan

[plowking]

I made a comparison of these two in a thread at Whiteside's first glimpse of potential, but was told by a few posters it might be too much to compare him right now to someone as established as DeAndre in the league.

Now, 20 or so games later, is it still not debatable? They are similar in age, height and weight. From what we've seen of Whiteside would it be fair to say he is clearly the better offensive threat, and the more capable shotblocker? As far as rebounding goes, DeAndre might have the edge, but Whiteside has him beat there in terms of per36 numbers too.

Who would you rather have on your team, give what you've seen now, and the fact that DeAndre is nearly exactly a year older?

[RoundMoundOfReb]

I'd take Deandre based on the fact that I'm not sure if this is sustainable for Whiteside but it clearly is for Deandre.

[buddha]

DeAndre is a shit defender tho, never gonna win a championship when you're letting opposing bigs drop 20/10 on you every night.. I'd take Whiteside.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

no he isn't. Based on what exactly is he a shit defender?

[qrich]

:roll:

[I<3NBA]

can Whiteside shoot free throws at a decent clip? if so, then I'll go with Whiteside. can't have such a crunch time liability as DeAndre on my team.

[navy]

Let's wait abit. There are many cinderella stories that cause knee jerk reactions. What happens when fatigue hits whiteside? Will he be the same? Maybe, maybe not.

Wiltside though has been much more impressive in his limited time.

[buddha]

no he isn't. Based on what exactly is he a shit defender?

the fact that the lane is always open for driving guards and bigs have no problem scoring on him in the post.

[plowking]

I'd take Deandre based on the fact that I'm not sure if this is sustainable for Whiteside but it clearly is for Deandre.

True. Could be another Jeremy Lin type deal? Fantastic over a 20 or so game stretch and then fades off?

Saying that though, Whiteside is far more physical talented than Lin, and will more than likely always have a role now just based on his size and defensive presence alone. At the very worst he seems to be capable of putting up Zaza Pachulia numbers, just with better blocks.

[plowking]

:roll:

I don't think it is laughable. Legit comparison. They put up similar numbers, and Whiteside has had a huge impact on the way the Heat play. We look like a far better team with him out there, especially defensively. I'm pretty sure he feasted on DeAndre when they went head to head too.

[Dro]

I don't think it is laughable. Legit comparison. They put up similar numbers, and Whiteside has had a huge impact on the way the Heat play. We look like a far better team with him out there, especially defensively. I'm pretty sure he feasted on DeAndre when they went head to head too.
No, its kinda laughable. DJ has proven he can keep this up. Whitesaid hasn't played half a season. Lets wait for a bit....

[GOBB]

Yeah even with what you said 20 games under his belt? Still a small sample size. I dont think DeAndre Jordan is a bad comparison from a defensive/rebounding standpoint. Offensively, Whiteside has more upside. Definitely not limited to just dunks. Just from little I've seen of him.

If I had to choose I would pick Jordan just because I've seen what he brings. what you see is what you get. Whiteside? I dont know. I would take a chance on him more as a team rebuilding than a playoff team or even contender. If that makes any sense. At least if Whiteside is a flash in the pan you can swallow that as a rebuilding team vs a team trying to win.

If he is the real deal his story would be an interesting one. But hey some people (not me) thought Jeremy Lin was an elite PG. As of today, Lin who?

[plowking]

No, its kinda laughable. DJ has proven he can keep this up. Whitesaid hasn't played half a season. Lets wait for a bit....

Well it is a "who would you take" kind of deal.

The one showing more potential, or the rock who has been doing it for years.

I don't think it is laughable when one guy has shown he can actually put up better numbers than another guy. Naturally you'd assume with hard work, he can keep that up.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

I do think Whiteside is more legit than Lin was. Lin plays a position where having film/knowing tendancies is a lot more important than it is with a guy like Whiteside who is really just an incredibly athletic hustle player.

[gcvbcat]

Is whiteside a muslim?

[Milbuck]

I do think Whiteside is more legit than Lin was. Lin plays a position where having film/knowing tendancies is a lot more important than it is with a guy like Whiteside who is really just an incredibly athletic hustle player.
Yup. Whitside's defense and rebounding is way more sustainable than Lin's scoring and passing imo. Ballhandling, vision, footwork, etc are all things you need to succeed as a PG in this league, and Lin was nowhere near as fundamentally sound as his play during Linsanity indicated. Whereas Whiteside could make zero progress skill-wise and still be an impact player purely on energy.

We also have to factor in that Linsanity happened under one of the most PG-friendly coaches out there, and Whiteside is just putting in work period. Lin hasn't been able to translate his success anywhere else aside from flashes here and there but I'm almost positive Whiteside could replicate if not outdo his current level under a better coach than Spo.

[305Baller]

At this pace Whiteside will be better than Jordan but it's still too early to tell.

[navy]

Whiteside is only comparable to Wilt.

[qrich]

I don't think it is laughable. Legit comparison. They put up similar numbers, and Whiteside has had a huge impact on the way the Heat play. We look like a far better team with him out there, especially defensively. I'm pretty sure he feasted on DeAndre when they went head to head too.

Yes, it quite is.

Can you guess who put up 17.2/13.7 with 3.4 blocks over a 31 game stretch that no one would have taken over, say, Marcus Camby on that season or Jordan on this season?

That is someone who put up solid numbers for full seasons at a time and that was one stretch that was better and longer.

[TheCalmInsanity]

Don't forget, players can be good in streaks like this because they popped out of nowhere and teams don't have much on the scouting report on them yet.

Jeremy Lin was good for a while until teams started finding his weaknesses and exploiting them.

He could be a great player, and even when scouting reports become more established, might still be good.. or he could fizzle. One or the other, it's still a risk until proven wrong.

Deandre however, has been in a league for a while, and everyone knows what he can and can't do.

[Marchesk]

Whiteside's career PER > Kobe's. :bowdown:

[navy]

Whiteside's career PER > Kobe's. :bowdown:
Not impressed.

[HiphopRelated]

You don't have to usually account for Jordan on offense. Whiteside has displayed more moves in the last month than Jordan in his career.

[kurple]

I made a comparison of these two in a thread at Whiteside's first glimpse of potential,

when he was in college?

[PJR]

If DeAndre Jordan played a game of 1-1 against air, and the rules were no dunks allowed, he'd lose by 8.

WILTside all day.

[Human Error]

I would take Whiteside and yeah you can call me a homer. It has been so long since we had a new exciting young big man. :applause:

Edit: I mean in Miami.

[lilteapot]

Is whiteside a muslim?
Nope

[Alan Ogg]

Definitely Whiteside. He is probably as good already and has a much higher upside. His per 36 are MVP caliber numbers. Has scored double digits in 11 out of his last 12 games or so.

[Thechosen1]

whiteside is more bynum than deandre IMO

[Demitri98]

can Whiteside shoot free throws at a decent clip? if so, then I'll go with Whiteside. can't have such a crunch time liability as DeAndre on my team.
6.3 FTA/game on 55.7%...better than DeAndre but still awfully bad.

Whiteside does have a decent midrange jumper though, so I'm sure with a little time in the gym he could get it up to 70%.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Whiteside's career PER > Kobe's. :bowdown:

I thought you were kidding....nope!

:roll:

[WadeStan]

The answer has to be DeAndre. For now. We know who he is as a player.

As for Whiteside, who knows what happens. But his upside is exciting.

[InfiniteBaskets]

Don't forget, players can be good in streaks like this because they popped out of nowhere and teams don't have much on the scouting report on them yet.

Jeremy Lin was good for a while until teams started finding his weaknesses and exploiting them.

He could be a great player, and even when scouting reports become more established, might still be good.. or he could fizzle. One or the other, it's still a risk until proven wrong.

Deandre however, has been in a league for a while, and everyone knows what he can and can't do.

True, but Lin was an offensive initiator, easier to gameplan for. Whiteside is mostly a guy who snatches up rebounds, blocks off both help defense and on ball, and also finishes lobs. There is significantly less to gameplan for with a guy like him.