Joel Embiid stats next year??

[sundizz]

What will they be? Wiggins is demonstrating he was worth the hype. Watching Hassan Whiteside dominate and watching Joel's fluidity shooting around recently lead me to believe he will put up 12.5 ppg, 8.8 rpg, 1.9 apg, 2.0 bpg on 51%.

[IGOTGAME]

impossible to know how he will be after the foot injury.

[DukeDelonte13]

I'm a huge fan of his, but i know that his navicular fracture won't be his last.

I don't think he'll ever realize his prime. I hope i'm wrong.

[GOBB]

10ppg
8rpg
1.5bpg

[RedBlackAttack]

If he gets healthy, he'll eventually be the best center in the league and I don't think it will take him all that long. He is a freak of nature.

Without the health issues, he's a better prospect than Anthony Davis was, imo. He was very easily the No. 1 pick over Wiggins and Parker prior to the news about the foot.

Unfortunately, we may never see it. Let's hope for the sake of basketball that he makes a full recovery.

I still think about this sometimes... If the injury hadn't happened, would the Cavs still have traded their top pick in the Kevin Love deal? I don't think they would have. As good as Wiggins may be, Embiid is the kind of big man prospect that comes along once in a generation.

[GOBB]

What will they be? Wiggins is demonstrating he was worth the hype. Watching Hassan Whiteside dominate and watching Joel's fluidity shooting around recently lead me to believe he will put up 12.5 ppg, 8.8 rpg, 1.9 apg, 2.0 bpg on 51%.

Whiteside has had years to develop. Embiid has only played 1 year of college.

[RedBlackAttack]

Comparing Hassan Whiteside's potential to Joel Embiid is like comparing Johnny Newman to Michael Jordan. Srsly

[IncarceratedBob]

Whiteside is garbage compared to Embiid. What a farce. Comparing a mutt to a thoroughbred

[KNOW1EDGE]

12ppg
9.2rpg
2.5apg
2.1bpg

If he stays healthy, if, he will be very good.

It's not likely that this guy has a 10+ year career

[GOBB]

I'm not comparing potential. Just pointing out that the OP was comparing what Whiteside is doing now and trying to gauge what Embiid will do his rookie season. I just feel its a bit unfair given Embiid while he has potential still needs to develop his game. Whiteside is producing for Miami and kudos but...


Career history
2010–2012 Sacramento Kings
2010–2012 →Reno Bighorns (D-League)
2012–2013 Sioux Falls Skyforce (D-League)
2013 Rio Grande Valley Vipers (D-League)
2013 Amchit Club (Lebanon)
2013 Sichuan Blue Whales (China)
2013–2014 Al Mouttahed Tripoli (Lebanon)
2014 Jiangsu Tongxi (China 2nd)
2014 Iowa Energy (D-League)
2014–present Miami Heat
2014 →Sioux Falls Skyforce (D-League)

Thats alot of bball. So I dont expect Embiid as a rookie to come in doing great. Maybe I'm wrong but dude missed an entire season and has 1 college season under his belt. Hasn't really played real competitive bball in literally a year. That is all I'm saying.

[DukeDelonte13]

he can shoot J's, has a back to the basket game, elite size, elite quickness and athleticism for his size, great intangibles, game changer defensively etc.


Not gonna lie, i was damn upset when i heard that news about that second stress fracture. Despite that stress fracture, I would not have been pissed at all had the cavs gambled on him with that pick.

[Dr.J4ever]

If he gets healthy, he'll eventually be the best center in the league and I don't think it will take him all that long. He is a freak of nature.

Without the health issues, he's a better prospect than Anthony Davis was, imo. He was very easily the No. 1 pick over Wiggins and Parker prior to the news about the foot.

Unfortunately, we may never see it. Let's hope for the sake of basketball that he makes a full recovery.

I still think about this sometimes... If the injury hadn't happened, would the Cavs still have traded their top pick in the Kevin Love deal? I don't think they would have. As good as Wiggins may be, Embiid is the kind of big man prospect that comes along once in a generation.

He will be fine, health wise.

Look at NNoel. After a year of sitting out, he's played injury free this season. He even played back to back the other night and finished with 10/8/2/2. Here's a bit of a guide on Embiid's injury below:

http://articles.philly.com/2014-07-17/sports/51607941_1_joel-embiid-sixers-southern-california-orthopedic-institute

"By his own estimation, Ferkel has done between 20 and 30 navicular-fracture surgeries, and in terms of the injury's severity and the patient's likelihood for a full recovery, he said that Embiid's situation was far from the worst of those.

"Once he's fully healed, his chances of having a long career are very good," Ferkel said in a phone interview. "There's no reason he shouldn't have a great NBA career and be very successful. Once this heals, hopefully this won't be an issue for him in the future."

Also, I agree with you that he will be the best player of last year's draft. Better than Wiggins, most likely.

[DukeDelonte13]

He will fine, health wise.

Look at NNoel. After a year of sitting out, he's played injury free this season. He even played back to back the other night and finished with 10/8/2/2. Here's a bit of a guide on Embiid's injury below:

http://articles.philly.com/2014-07-17/sports/51607941_1_joel-embiid-sixers-southern-california-orthopedic-institute

"By his own estimation, Ferkel has done between 20 and 30 navicular-fracture surgeries, and in terms of the injury's severity and the patient's likelihood for a full recovery, he said that Embiid's situation was far from the worst of those.

"Once he's fully healed, his chances of having a long career are very good," Ferkel said in a phone interview. "There's no reason he shouldn't have a great NBA career and be very successful. Once this heals, hopefully this won't be an issue for him in the future."

Also, I agree with you that he will the best player of last year's draft. Better than Wiggins, most likely.


an ACL tear is nothing like a fractured navicular. And Embiid's situation was a bad one. He got 2 screws, not one. Embiid's surgery was very aggressive. It went untreated and undiagnosed until his physical with the cavs.

Here is a blurb about Yao's navicular:


"I have no first-hand knowledge of Yao's injury, but I do know what it means to have a navicular stress fracture," Williams told HOOPSWORLD today. " The navicular bone is one of the bones that sits above the arch, and as a result, when the arch starts to fall or if you have a flat foot, you start to impart forces to that bone because it's in what we call the mid-foot. If you look at a bridge, under the bridge where the water goes, the underside is like a half an arch. The top brick in the arch would be like the navicular bone. So imagine if you were to straighten that arch out, the force pushing against that upper-most brick in the arch as the rest of the bricks start to fall to the middle as the arch collapses. It's that same type of analogy with the foot - the navicular sits at the top of the arch, and as you lose competency in the arch, there are more forces from both the heel and the fore-foot all squeezing on those mid-foot bones. Yao's so big that, even if, as a surgeon, you go in and 'fix' the crack, it still doesn't bode well for the future because you aren't able to do anything to correct the morphology of the foot, the actual structure of the foot. As a result, when he goes back out there and he's doing the same things that caused the injury in the first place, now he's got a screw in there which represents a stress riser in an area of weakness, and you get more cracks. That's the baseline issue for him, which is why people are so negative with his prognosis or likelihood that he could come back and play for any length of time."


If Embiid's navicular bone cracks again he's f*cked. It's not an area that heals well because of the lack of blood flow to that specific bone. He has to be super careful for the rest of his career.

[Dr.J4ever]

an ACL tear is nothing like a fractured navicular. And Embiid's situation was a bad one. He got 2 screws, not one. Embiid's surgery was very aggressive. It went untreated and undiagnosed until his physical with the cavs.

Here is a blurb about Yao's navicular:




If Embiid's navicular bone cracks again he's f*cked. It's not an area that heals well because of the lack of blood flow to that specific bone. He has to be super careful for the rest of his career.

Well, I don't want to pretend I have knowledge of medical injuries because I don't, but my article above pretty much answers your article about Yao.

Believe me, the fans in Philly monitor Embiid's growth and right now there really isn't too much of a concern about his recovery. People are obtimistic, just like the doctor I quoted above.