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boozehound
02-06-2015, 01:42 PM
What a douche canoe. Dude is clearly among the best skilled bigs playing today (perhaps the best) but he has such a poor attitude/ethic that he is nowhere near reaching his potential. Whether its taking plays off, not being aware of his man on D, pouting to the refs, deflating his teammates, this guy is a joke. Still love his game when hes motivated, but that comes from within. No excuses about coaches being fired, etc. He either has it or he doesnt. and he just doesnt. Despite his prodigious talent, he will never be the dominant force or lead a team to contention like he could.

Jailblazers7
02-06-2015, 01:48 PM
It's a bummer to see things going bad for Boogie throughout his career in Sacremento. He seems to have landed in basically the worst environment possible for him. The guy clearly needed a mentor or a solid team environment coming in to the league and just didn't (and still isn't) getting it.

Teams that passed on him and shouldn't have:
PHI
NJ
MIN

In Philly, he would have had the chance to play with Iggy for a couple seasons and we probably wouldn't be seeing the massive tank strategy in place now. In NJ, I have no ****ing clue what would have happened but he would have at least been surrounded by solid vets in all likelihood. In Minnesota, they would have just taken Love, Rubio, and Boogie in 3 consecutive years and would have had a great core to build around and a great locker room guy in Rubio.

:(

boozehound
02-06-2015, 01:53 PM
It's a bummer to see things going bad for Boogie throughout his career in Sacremento. He seems to have landed in basically the worst environment possible for him. The guy clearly needed a mentor or a solid team environment coming in to the league and just didn't (and still isn't) getting it.

Teams that passed on him and shouldn't have:
PHI
NJ
MIN

In Philly, he would have had the chance to play with Iggy for a couple seasons and we probably wouldn't be seeing the massive tank strategy in place now. In NJ, I have no ****ing clue what would have happened but he would have at least been surrounded by solid vets in all likelihood. In Minnesota, they would have just taken Love, Rubio, and Boogie in 3 consecutive years and would have had a great core to build around and a great locker room guy in Rubio.

:(
Yeah, I agree that his circumstances haven't been great, but a lot of his problems were very visible at UK, which is why they passed on him. I was hoping he would fall to the pistons that year......

tpols
02-06-2015, 01:57 PM
He's missing something in the head.. And is unaware of himself.

That interview he gave was cringe worthy.. Like he's totally oblivious how to talk and interact around people. Just a big spoiled baby.

miggyme1
02-06-2015, 02:01 PM
It's a bummer to see things going bad for Boogie throughout his career in Sacremento. He seems to have landed in basically the worst environment possible for him. The guy clearly needed a mentor or a solid team environment coming in to the league and just didn't (and still isn't) getting it.

Teams that passed on him and shouldn't have:
PHI
NJ
MIN

In Philly, he would have had the chance to play with Iggy for a couple seasons and we probably wouldn't be seeing the massive tank strategy in place now. In NJ, I have no ****ing clue what would have happened but he would have at least been surrounded by solid vets in all likelihood. In Minnesota, they would have just taken Love, Rubio, and Boogie in 3 consecutive years and would have had a great core to build around and a great locker room guy in Rubio.

:(


just wait until boogie plays for a contender. he will be fine. He reminds me alot of derrick coleman. When the nets were good derrick coleman looked like a future hall of famer..then petrovic died and they becmae irrelevant and stuff and derrick coleman work ethic went out the window with his weight and he never was the same.

i give boogie credit for staying in great shape this far though because he came into the league a lil chunky.

But i do have to say this....min,nj or phi would have been HORRIBLE places for him to go to as well. Rubio couldnt even keep love u think he would of been able to keep a dude like boogie content?

PHilly is a hell no too...yea if they still had larry brown maybe...but now? no

NJ/BROOK......would have been a good fit maybe two years ago when they first got pierce and garnett but now? NO

he should go to spurs,mavs or clipps....maybe the celtics.

Droid101
02-06-2015, 02:04 PM
I'd probably lose it if I was stuck on the Kings for that long, too.

Rose'sACL
02-06-2015, 02:07 PM
i hope spurs somehow get him in a trade next year if he is unhappy at Sac.

BuffaloBill
02-06-2015, 02:09 PM
i hope spurs somehow get him in a trade next year if he is unhappy at Sac.


Don't tease me like that

UK2K
02-06-2015, 02:09 PM
Yep, if I were him I wouldn't give two schits about that team. They suck, always have, probably always will.

Have Cousins for 5 years, and old Rudy Gay is the best player you can get to play alongside him?

bigkingsfan
02-06-2015, 02:17 PM
This organization is a joke, I stop watching games shortly after Malone got fired, I'd rather see him in a playoff run elsewhere.

boozehound
02-06-2015, 02:18 PM
Yep, if I were him I wouldn't give two schits about that team. They suck, always have, probably always will.

Have Cousins for 5 years, and old Rudy Gay is the best player you can get to play alongside him?
the problem with that (and droid's) line of reasoning is that this didnt start at sacto (or after he had been there a while). This has been an issue with him from at least college (and there is no better college program than UK).

boozehound
02-06-2015, 02:18 PM
just wait until boogie plays for a contender. he will be fine. He reminds me alot of derrick coleman. When the nets were good derrick coleman looked like a future hall of famer..then petrovic died and they becmae irrelevant and stuff and derrick coleman work ethic went out the window with his weight and he never was the same.

i give boogie credit for staying in great shape this far though because he came into the league a lil chunky.

But i do have to say this....min,nj or phi would have been HORRIBLE places for him to go to as well. Rubio couldnt even keep love u think he would of been able to keep a dude like boogie content?

PHilly is a hell no too...yea if they still had larry brown maybe...but now? no

NJ/BROOK......would have been a good fit maybe two years ago when they first got pierce and garnett but now? NO

he should go to spurs,mavs or clipps....maybe the celtics.
If he ever plays for a contender, it will be as the secondary guy. He could have been a shaq like dominant leader/prime guy on a contending team.



Maybe he still can, but I highly doubt it.

Jailblazers7
02-06-2015, 02:22 PM
I think basically anywhere would be better than SAC. Huge organizational changes, firing Malone who had a good relationship with Boogie, lack of veterans on the team throughout his career, etc. It is just a recipe for disaster for a guy like Boogie.

ProfessorMurder
02-06-2015, 02:24 PM
If he ever plays for a contender, it will be as the secondary guy. He could have been a shaq like dominant leader/prime guy on a contending team.



Maybe he still can, but I highly doubt it.
Shaq was not a dominant leader. Dude was a bitchy asshole forever.

Cousins has 0 chance of the playoffs again, a garbage coach, mostly garbage teammates, and a garbage franchise. He's wasting his time. Let him pout and be a dick, it's got to suck being there. He should get the ball 80% of the time.

If he was put on any other team he'd still show flashes of that stuff, like Sheed did, but he'd be great.

boozehound
02-06-2015, 02:33 PM
Shaq was not a dominant leader. Dude was a bitchy asshole forever.

Cousins has 0 chance of the playoffs again, a garbage coach, mostly garbage teammates, and a garbage franchise. He's wasting his time. Let him pout and be a dick, it's got to suck being there. He should get the ball 80% of the time.

If he was put on any other team he'd still show flashes of that stuff, like Sheed did, but he'd be great.
so, again why was he a pouty bitch at UK. That team underachieved, mostly due to him.

UK2K
02-06-2015, 02:45 PM
the problem with that (and droid's) line of reasoning is that this didnt start at sacto (or after he had been there a while). This has been an issue with him from at least college (and there is no better college program than UK).

Cousins was absolutely a beast, and a fan favorite, at Kentucky.

Dude has a UK basketball court in his back yard.

If you look at his demeanor now, compared to the beginning of the season, something has changed.


U.S. Coach Mike Krzyzewski talked about Cousins during a teleconference with reporters on Tuesday afternoon.

"All the coaches were really pleased with DeMarcus and how he played," he said. "Look, his attitude is tremendous because he wouldn't keep coming back to be a part of Team USA if it didn't mean something to him.


So he was awesome a few months ago...


Early in the season, for the first time in a long time, Sacramento was starting to look respectable. Everything changed when Cousins was sidelined with viral meningitis and head coach Mike Malone was subsequently fired.

When a reporter brought up the coaching change from Malone to Ty Corbin after the Mavericks game, Cousins said, "We're not going there." He repeated that phrase five more times.

And now he's not.

Something tells me he's not happy with the way the Kings org. is being run.

salwan
02-06-2015, 02:57 PM
tbh, playing in a bad situation makes a player pick up very bad habits.:(

not saying that he is the model professional/intangibles guy in any way tho:lol

Practice?
02-06-2015, 03:00 PM
People were trying to claim this guy as the best center this year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0smvr90xko

rhowen4
02-06-2015, 03:02 PM
so, again why was he a pouty bitch at UK. That team underachieved, mostly due to him.
it has been about 5 years since then, people change/grow up (or can) with the situation. i don't think it's a sure thing he'd be pouty just anywhere.

ukfan22
02-06-2015, 03:07 PM
so, again why was he a pouty bitch at UK. That team underachieved, mostly due to him.

you have no idea what you're talking about

boozehound
02-06-2015, 04:01 PM
you have no idea what you're talking about
not making the final 4 was underachieving for that team IMO ( I would argue not winning it all was underachieving). I absolutely followed that team and watched most games (BF is huge wildcats fan/alum). I understand he was a fan favorite (as I said, I still love watching him play most of the time), but he had attitude issues from HS till now.

as Rhowen points out, perhaps that would've changed in a different scenario. But at some point you have to stop blaming the circumstances and recognize an adult for who he is.

boozehound
02-06-2015, 04:03 PM
Cousins was absolutely a beast, and a fan favorite, at Kentucky.

Dude has a UK basketball court in his back yard.

If you look at his demeanor now, compared to the beginning of the season, something has changed.



So he was awesome a few months ago...



And now he's not.

Something tells me he's not happy with the way the Kings org. is being run.
right. so for maybe, 6 months, of his professional career he has had a positive demeanor/attitude. I agree that he was markedly different under team USA this year (and malone to follow). But it didnt last. When life gives you adversity (as if changing coaches is really adversity in life), make adversinade.

imdaman99
02-06-2015, 04:12 PM
People were trying to claim this guy as the best center this year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0smvr90xko
This guy is despicable. He may have all the talent in the world but the guy is missing something.

dunksby
02-06-2015, 04:24 PM
He started the year so well and was surprisingly calm, for his standards, and for the first time a good relationship with his coach. FO ****ed that up royally though, not giving Boogie a break for being a **** all these years but he had clearly improved his mentality.

imnew09
02-06-2015, 04:34 PM
need to come to Lakers

Done_And_Done
02-06-2015, 04:38 PM
He's missing something in the head.. And is unaware of himself.

That interview he gave was cringe worthy.. Like he's totally oblivious how to talk and interact around people. Just a big spoiled baby.

Was this a recent interview? Post game?

ArbitraryWater
02-06-2015, 04:40 PM
LeBron should take him under his wing, show him his faulty ways and get his head straight.. :p


Anyway, hopefully he'll be more motivated once he plays for a contender.

UK2K
02-06-2015, 04:49 PM
so, again why was he a pouty bitch at UK. That team underachieved, mostly due to him.

That is probably one of the most ignorant things I've ever heard on this board. I am assuming its just because you are misinformed. Maybe reading too much BR?

15 and 10 shooting 56% from the floor, in college, is unreal, especially when he only played 24 mpg.

They underachieved because they couldn't hit an outside shot to save their lives. Wall and Bledsoe were not good shooters in college. In the Elite Eight game against West Virginia, UK shot 4-32 from three point range.

Cousins had 15 and 8 on 6-11 shooting.

Cousins was the swag of that team. Him and Wall were IT. Wall had his dance, Cousins had his swag, and those two changed UK forever. Nobody said he had a bad attitude at Kentucky. Nobody I know of at least. He was rumored to have a bad attitude in high school, but at UK, we never saw any such thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgWWmktsJQw

Here ya go. John Wall air balling the last second three and Cousins cleaning up the mess. Does it look like he has a bad attitude?

And for the record, that team went 35-3, won the SEC championship, then the SEC tournament title, and raised $1.5 million for Haiti during a telethon after the earth quake. They lost in the Elite Eight to a veteran, three point bombing WVU team. That is a successful season to me.

The day he signed his contract extension, he donated $1 million to charities in Sacramento.

The only people who still think he has a bad attitude are people who just heard it and kept it going.

UK2K
02-06-2015, 04:51 PM
right. so for maybe, 6 months, of his professional career he has had a positive demeanor/attitude. I agree that he was markedly different under team USA this year (and malone to follow). But it didnt last. When life gives you adversity (as if changing coaches is really adversity in life), make adversinade.

It didn't last because his team has lost 21 of its last 26 games.

If I were him, I'd get the hell out of Dodge before he wastes away his prime.

IncarceratedBob
02-06-2015, 04:54 PM
Gotta love virgins who live in their moms basement talking shit about a multi millionaire. Get a life dude

Dengness9
02-06-2015, 05:02 PM
He is awesome yet such a baby/chump at the same time.

Love/Hate for me.

chocolatethunder
02-06-2015, 05:09 PM
That is probably one of the most ignorant things I've ever heard on this board. I am assuming its just because you are misinformed. Maybe reading too much BR?

15 and 10 shooting 56% from the floor, in college, is unreal, especially when he only played 24 mpg.

They underachieved because they couldn't hit an outside shot to save their lives. Wall and Bledsoe were not good shooters in college. In the Elite Eight game against West Virginia, UK shot 4-32 from three point range.

Cousins had 15 and 8 on 6-11 shooting.

Cousins was the swag of that team. Him and Wall were IT. Wall had his dance, Cousins had his swag, and those two changed UK forever. Nobody said he had a bad attitude at Kentucky. Nobody I know of at least. He was rumored to have a bad attitude in high school, but at UK, we never saw any such thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgWWmktsJQw

Here ya go. John Wall air balling the last second three and Cousins cleaning up the mess. Does it look like he has a bad attitude?

And for the record, that team went 35-3, won the SEC championship, then the SEC tournament title, and raised $1.5 million for Haiti during a telethon after the earth quake. They lost in the Elite Eight to a veteran, three point bombing WVU team. That is a successful season to me.

The day he signed his contract extension, he donated $1 million to charities in Sacramento.

The only people who still think he has a bad attitude are people who just heard it and kept it going.
Then why did he drop in the draft?

RoseCity07
02-06-2015, 05:10 PM
Firing a coach to please Cousins was their biggest mistake. Fire a coach to fire him. Don't do it to give a cry baby his way. Now he thinks he can do anything he wants.

Dengness9
02-06-2015, 05:10 PM
People knew he was a headcase at UK.

RoundMoundOfReb
02-06-2015, 05:11 PM
2nd round pick and Haywood for Cousins?

Dengness9
02-06-2015, 05:12 PM
2nd round pick and Haywood for Cousins?

Throw in a 3rd rounder too

RoundMoundOfReb
02-06-2015, 05:13 PM
Throw in a 3rd rounder too
deal :cheers:

Dengness9
02-06-2015, 05:19 PM
I would love to see Boogie with a legit sidekick for real

UK2K
02-06-2015, 05:31 PM
Then why did he drop in the draft?

Random mock drafts I found before the 2009-10 season ended.

http://www.streetbasketballassociation.net/rosters/draft/

8 Detroit DeMarcus Cousins 6-11 260 PF/C Kentucky Fr.

http://sportsbyblayze.blogspot.com/2009/11/2010-nba-mock-draft-version-20_27.html

21. Milwaukee Bucks - PF/C DeMarcus Cousins, Kentucky. Cousins weight will always be an issue, but he could have a Kendrick Perkins like career.

http://newsportdraft.com/2010/2010-nba-mock-draft/

13 Toronto Raptors DeMarcus Cousins - Kentucky PF - 6'11, 260 lbs.

It didn't drop. It went up, way the fvck up. He was hardly projected a lottery pick before he went to UK. He was projected late lotto during his time at UK, as you can see by the three random mock drafts from Nov-Feb of that season, and then he was projected top 5 by the time the draft rolled around, which is where he went. #5.

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Practice?
02-06-2015, 05:40 PM
Random mock drafts I found before the 2009-10 season ended.

http://www.streetbasketballassociation.net/rosters/draft/

8 Detroit DeMarcus Cousins 6-11 260 PF/C Kentucky Fr.

http://sportsbyblayze.blogspot.com/2009/11/2010-nba-mock-draft-version-20_27.html

21. Milwaukee Bucks - PF/C DeMarcus Cousins, Kentucky. Cousins weight will always be an issue, but he could have a Kendrick Perkins like career.

http://newsportdraft.com/2010/2010-nba-mock-draft/

13 Toronto Raptors DeMarcus Cousins - Kentucky PF - 6'11, 260 lbs.

It didn't drop. It went up, way the fvck up. He was hardly projected a lottery pick before he went to UK. He was projected late lotto during his time at UK, as you can see by the three random mock drafts from Nov-Feb of that season, and then he was projected top 5 by the time the draft rolled around, which is where he went. #5.

BOMB

Never even heard of those websites? What about the more known ones? I thought he went about what I remembered him projected. I also remember several saying he could be the best in the draft, but attitude lowered him. His hype reminded me a bit of Andre Drummond's.

Miles and Miles
02-06-2015, 05:45 PM
Some of you haven't followed along this season. Cousins interview was exactly how all Kings fans and I am sure there coach and management all feel. Sad to say that Cousins is making the most effort on the team and some of the other guys are lost and giving up. I am not and never have been the biggest Cousins fan but I have watched every Kings game this year and he should speak his mind on this and hopefully make something happen. Either they fire the coach again, make some trades, or this sparks the teammates. The Kings were in the wrong firing Malone but the team needs to get over it and move on and get back to playing the way they did early in the season before Cousins was sick.

UK2K
02-06-2015, 05:56 PM
Never even heard of those websites? What about the more known ones? I thought he went about what I remembered him projected. I also remember several saying he could be the best in the draft, but attitude lowered him. His hype reminded me a bit of Andre Drummond's.

ESPN and DraftXpress update their pages, there is no 'first edition mock draft' for them. I wanted to find mocks near the beginning or the middle of the season to better illustrate my point. These are it. Most just copy each other anyway.

Nobody talked about him being a lotto coming out of high school. Some talked about him being mid to late lotto during the season, the last month or so his draft stock soared.

You read that his attitude is an issue on scouting reports, because he has no real weaknesses. He's strong, he rebounds, he's athletic, he can handle the ball, he can pass, he can shoot, he's quick. So what do you put as a weakness? Um, his attitude is bad. Yeah, it was bad until he came to UK, and it was bad until Sacramento started playing up to his level, and now its bad after they fired the coach he liked and are already about to replace the replacement.

I'd be mad if I was him, wouldn't you?

Miles and Miles
02-06-2015, 05:58 PM
His draft was like 5 years ago. Time to move on.

JimmyMcAdocious
02-06-2015, 06:05 PM
I think I remember him refusing to do some conditioning workouts during the summer workouts or early in the season. Don't remember much complaints outside of that, though.

Btw, here's a draftexpress mock draft.
http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2010/

nbadraft
http://www.nbadraft.net/2010mock_draft

UK2K
02-06-2015, 06:12 PM
I think I remember him refusing to do some conditioning workouts during the summer workouts or early in the season. Don't remember much complaints outside of that, though.

Btw, here's a draftexpress mock draft.
http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2010/

nbadraft
http://www.nbadraft.net/2010mock_draft
Updated at the end of the season.

The poster in question asked why his draft stock dropped. It didn't. It went up from where late lotto early season to top 5 by seasons end.

Miles and Miles
02-06-2015, 06:12 PM
2010 was the ONE and only time the Kings go the draft right. They drafted Cousins and Whiteside. Only other person they might have taken that MIGHT turn out better that was available was Paul George.

chocolatethunder
02-06-2015, 06:19 PM
Random mock drafts I found before the 2009-10 season ended.

http://www.streetbasketballassociation.net/rosters/draft/

8 Detroit DeMarcus Cousins 6-11 260 PF/C Kentucky Fr.

http://sportsbyblayze.blogspot.com/2009/11/2010-nba-mock-draft-version-20_27.html

21. Milwaukee Bucks - PF/C DeMarcus Cousins, Kentucky. Cousins weight will always be an issue, but he could have a Kendrick Perkins like career.

http://newsportdraft.com/2010/2010-nba-mock-draft/

13 Toronto Raptors DeMarcus Cousins - Kentucky PF - 6'11, 260 lbs.

It didn't drop. It went up, way the fvck up. He was hardly projected a lottery pick before he went to UK. He was projected late lotto during his time at UK, as you can see by the three random mock drafts from Nov-Feb of that season, and then he was projected top 5 by the time the draft rolled around, which is where he went. #5.

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No. Cousins was viewed as a risk which is why the Sixers didn't draft him. He was thought of as one of the best talents in the draft but as a huge question mark due to his attitude.

GOBB
02-06-2015, 06:22 PM
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/DeMarcus-Cousins-1318/

nbadraft dot net has Cousins writeup as well. Mentioned there.

http://articles.centralkynews.com/2010-06-22/news/24937834_1_talent-team-thursdays-nba

^^^Jay Bilas comments on Cousins maturity.

Common knowledge Cousins had attitude issues coming out of UK.

UK2K
02-06-2015, 06:22 PM
No. Cousins was viewed as a risk which is why the Sixers didn't draft him. He was thought of as one of the best talents in the draft but as a huge question mark due to his attitude.
But he was a bigger risk at the beginning of the season, before his stock rose.

Which is what you said didn't happen.

GOBB
02-06-2015, 06:23 PM
PHilly is a hell no too...yea if they still had larry brown maybe...but now? no.

Doug Collins and Cousins would have clashed.

boozehound
02-06-2015, 06:28 PM
. Nobody said he had a bad attitude at Kentucky. Nobody I know of at least.
Right, all the wildcat blogs were incredibly defensive and myopic (about his blowup at Cal at WV and a couple of other minor issues). But, there was concern (valid or not) among nba front offices about his attitude, and it wasnt based on HS. It was based on his time as a wildcat. That team should have won it all twice over and failed. Was it all on him? Of course not.

chocolatethunder
02-06-2015, 06:29 PM
But he was a bigger risk at the beginning of the season, before his stock rose.

Which is what you said didn't happen.
Whatever. You're a prick. Maybe it was because of his weight. I was asking a question and you wanna be a prick about it. Here's the deal, at draft time, he was thought of as one of the best talents in the draft and he fell to Sacto as a gift at number five. Sorry if you don't remember that happening but I do.

UK2K
02-06-2015, 06:30 PM
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/DeMarcus-Cousins-1318/

nbadraft dot net has Cousins writeup as well. Mentioned there.

http://articles.centralkynews.com/2010-06-22/news/24937834_1_talent-team-thursdays-nba

^^^Jay Bilas comments on Cousins maturity.

Common knowledge Cousins had attitude issues coming out of UK.
That does not mean I don

boozehound
02-06-2015, 06:30 PM
Never even heard of those websites? What about the more known ones? I thought he went about what I remembered him projected. I also remember several saying he could be the best in the draft, but attitude lowered him. His hype reminded me a bit of Andre Drummond's.
This is what I recall as well, and I followed that draft (and cousins) pretty closely.

boozehound
02-06-2015, 06:32 PM
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/DeMarcus-Cousins-1318/

nbadraft dot net has Cousins writeup as well. Mentioned there.

http://articles.centralkynews.com/2010-06-22/news/24937834_1_talent-team-thursdays-nba

^^^Jay Bilas comments on Cousins maturity.

Common knowledge Cousins had attitude issues coming out of UK.
cant argue with wildcat fans. One of the most defensive and sensitive fan bases out there.

chocolatethunder
02-06-2015, 06:34 PM
Right, all the wildcat blogs were incredibly defensive and myopic (about his blowup at Cal at WV and a couple of other minor issues). But, there was concern (valid or not) among nba front offices about his attitude, and it wasnt based on HS. It was based on his time as a wildcat. That team should have won it all twice over and failed. Was it all on him? Of course not.
That's how I remember it too.

UK2K
02-06-2015, 06:35 PM
Whatever. You're a prick. Maybe it was because of his weight. I was asking a question and you wanna be a prick about it. Here's the deal, at draft time, he was thought of as one of the best talents in the draft and he fell to Sacto as a gift at number five. Sorry if you don't remember that happening but I do.
He was also projected a late lotto before the season started.

And he was drafted behind John Wall, Evan Turner (arguably player of the year), Wesley Johnson and Derrick Favors.

You call it drop when he's #5. Sure attitude issues were brought up, but he wasnt considered a top 5 pick until late in the season, which I call a rise.

I remember it well. I watched every Kentucky game. I haven't missed one since either.

GOBB
02-06-2015, 06:38 PM
cant argue with wildcat fans. One of the most defensive and sensitive fan bases out there.

Yeah I'm noticing now. :oldlol:

GOBB
02-06-2015, 06:48 PM
Whatever. You're a prick. Maybe it was because of his weight. I was asking a question and you wanna be a prick about it. Here's the deal, at draft time, he was thought of as one of the best talents in the draft and he fell to Sacto as a gift at number five. Sorry if you don't remember that happening but I do.

Word :oldlol:

Sixers Elton Brand said the players that year thought Cousins was a lock to be the pick at 2. Until Rod Thorn decided to give Doug Collins control over personnel decisions. From that moment they knew Cousins wouldn't be the pick. They knew Collins would not have coached a guy like Cousins.

random person who doesnt follow the NBA "can i ask why? i'm being nosey"

Well random person who is so nosey!!!! As chocolatethunder, boozehound and I have explained. Cousins had attitude issues coming out of UK.

andremiller07
02-06-2015, 07:46 PM
Every year he's been on the Kings as soon as something goes wrong the dude just flat out quits.

He's also never stopped Josh Smithing and his shot selection just keeps being ridiculous. Out of 5 years he literally only for the first 15 games of this year played like a legit 2 way NBA player, he shouldn't be a All-Star and the team and him continue to suck.

I was holding out hope Cousins would be a beast but it's year 5 and I just don't think the dude gets it, either he's pretending to be stupid to get traded which I doubt or as a Kings fan the thing I was most dreading he's just to stupid to be #1 option.

I hope the Kings trade him and Rudy and end the isolation era and try build something like the Hawks with B - B+ level players like Mclemore/Collison and some big men who pass and actually move without the ball.

The dudes antics are to much and just when you think he get's it the dude shit's the bed even more. Honestly I would hate playing with someone like that.

oarabbus
02-06-2015, 08:21 PM
He had no attitude problems with Mike Malone as HC. The Kings ****ed up, shoulda kept Malone

magnax1
02-06-2015, 10:14 PM
It will be inevitable that when he finally starts winning people will attribute it to an attitude change regardless of whether it's real. Honestly, his attitude isnt a problem. They probably wohldve made the playoffs if Corbin wasnt hired and he wasnt out for 10 games. Thats not to say hes the most intelligent player on defense though.

ukfan22
02-07-2015, 12:08 AM
not making the final 4 was underachieving for that team IMO ( I would argue not winning it all was underachieving). I absolutely followed that team and watched most games (BF is huge wildcats fan/alum). I understand he was a fan favorite (as I said, I still love watching him play most of the time), but he had attitude issues from HS till now.

as Rhowen points out, perhaps that would've changed in a different scenario. But at some point you have to stop blaming the circumstances and recognize an adult for who he is.

if you watched every game you would know he was our best player

that team lost two games in the regular season and was the number one overall seed. They lost in the Elite 8 because no one could hit a jump shot in that game, it had nothing to do with Cousins.

He had zero disciplinary problems at UK

JohnFreeman
02-07-2015, 12:16 AM
His team sucks