MLK jr was the worst thing to ever happen to black people

[rlsmooth775]

The guy was a giant phony who did absolutely nothing good. Before integration black people owned more businesses. They had their own hotels, schools, transportation, sports leagues. You have all these pro blacks blaming whites for not hiring them, but they never blame king for pushing integration.

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[russwest0]

Didn't the FBI send him threatening letters and shit and end up getting accused of killing him?

[rlsmooth775]

Mods: Here's your chance to earn your keep.

Did I say anything false?

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Did I say anything false?

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[rlsmooth775]

Didn't the FBI send him threatening letters and shit and end up getting accused of killing him?

Yeah King loved those light skinned prostitutes. He would have orgies on the road all the time dude was a pervert.

[rlsmooth775]

Yes, you did.

Like what

[Budadiiii]

Slavery was abolished in the late 1800's and blacks still were discriminated against and couldn't find jobs. They were deemed inferior.

MLK was a bastard of a person but he helped erase the stigma. :confusedshrug:

[christian1923]

Sounds like something you heard your racist uncle say at Carls Jr earlier tonight.

Then you came to ISH and posted it..

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[rlsmooth775]

Sounds like something you heard your racist uncle say at Carls Jr earlier tonight.

Then you came to ISH and posted it..

Ok think about it this way. Why would you want to eat at a restaurant, and give money to people who don't even want you there.

[christian1923]

Ok think about it this way. Why would you want to eat at a restaurant, and give money to people who don't even want you there.
Cause the food is good

[rlsmooth775]

Slavery was abolished in the late 1800's and blacks still were discriminated against and couldn't find jobs. They were deemed inferior.

MLK was a bastard of a person but he helped erase the stigma. :confusedshrug:

Blacks had their own businesses and made money for their own people.

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[Budadiiii]

Blacks had their own businesses and made money for their own people.
What kind of education were they getting? How much money were they making? How were their living conditions compared to whites?

[rlsmooth775]

Cause the food is good

So you have no problem eating at a diner with people who hate you? You wouldn't be worried about them messing with your food on purpose.

[L.Kizzle]

So you have no problem eating at a diner with people who hate you? You wouldn't be worried about them messing with your food on purpose.
Some places didn't have black owned diners. SO you had to go to a diner who didn't serve Negros.

[rlsmooth775]

What kind of education were they getting? How much money were they making? How were their living conditions compared to whites?

They were doing pretty good actually. It would have gotten even better over time if they just stayed with the status quo. Less black on black on violence before integration to.

[christian1923]

So you have no problem eating at a diner with people who hate you? You wouldn't be worried about them messing with your food on purpose.
So you have no problem posting on Ish when we all hate you?

[sportsfan76]

The guy was a giant phony who did absolutely nothing good. Before integration black people owned more businesses. They had their own hotels, schools, transportation, sports leagues. You have all these pro blacks blaming whites for not hiring them, but they never blame king for pushing integration.


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3. Cancel Your Internet Service

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[rlsmooth775]

Some places didn't have black owned diners. SO you had to go to a diner who didn't serve Negros.

If you can't go to a black owned diner, make your own food. Better than giving money to people who hate you. Integration was a huge scam blacks were forced to have their own things. They didn't need help from white people.

[Eric Cartman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paQnokH3Px4&hd=1&ab_channel=DavronTairov

[rlsmooth775]

So you have no problem posting on Ish when we all hate you?

Why are you upset? Michael King (yes his real name is michael) did more harm than good. Why go to a white school and integrate with kids who will bully you. If black people kept with the status quo they could have been learning black history instead of European or white american history.

[Budadiiii]

Why are you upset? Michael King (yes his real name is michael) did more harm than good. Why go to a white school and integrate with kids who will bully you. If black people kept with the status quo they could have been learning black history instead of European or white american history.
You mean their history of getting shipped across the ocean so they can be slaves to the white man? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

And kinda ironic because february is literally "black history month"

[Droid101]

They were doing pretty good actually. It would have gotten even better over time if they just stayed with the status quo. Less black on black on violence before integration to.
I love all these citations and links to sources. Really helps the credibility of your trolli.... I mean posts.

[christian1923]

Why are you upset? Michael King (yes his real name is michael) did more harm than good. Why go to a white school and integrate with kids who will bully you. If black people kept with the status quo they could have been learning black history instead of European or white american history.
cause people have dreams of ending racism.

I didn't see no black kids getting bullied by white boys at my school.

[rlsmooth775]

I love all these citations and links to sources. Really helps the credibility of your trolli.... I mean posts.

Do your own research a lot of this is common knowledge. :facepalm

[rlsmooth775]

cause people have dreams of ending racism.

I didn't see no black kids getting bullied by white boys at my school.

If you were a black person in the 1960s why would you want to integrate with people who hated you so much. MLK was a huge sell out instead of improving the conditions of his people he wanted to join the enemy.

[christian1923]

If you were a black person in the 1960s why would you want to integrate with people who hated you so much. MLK was a huge sell out instead of improving the conditions of his people he wanted to join the enemy.
Sacrifice. So things could be better for future generations

[L.Kizzle]

If you were a black person in the 1960s why would you want to integrate with people who hated you so much. MLK was a huge sell out instead of improving the conditions of his people he wanted to join the enemy.
:coleman:

Blacks did only as much as they could do own their owns. Trust, if blacks were really making it they would have never given a damn and integration. But they were only getting so far.

-Redd Foxx playing a black owned night club wasn't getting half the money he would playing a white club.
-Is Jackie Robinson over in the Negro League was getting the money ahd recognition as Joe DiMaggio, you think he'd give a damn about coming over to the Major Leagues.
-Black were running black-owned theaters and movie production company's as far back as the 1920s and 1930 with directors like Paul Robenson. Of course they couldn't get their films out to the major company's. Every once in a while you'll have a black casted film like Carmen Jones.

[sportsfan76]

Ok think about it this way. Why would you want to eat at a restaurant, and give money to people who don't even want you there.


As a black man I never understood the need to be in the presence of white people. Especially when they didn't want you there

[rlsmooth775]

Sacrifice. So things could be better for future generations

Things aren't better black people are going backwards. Pre integration black people had more of their own businesses. Think about it what did integration do to help blacks. All they did was help white businesses make more money. Only someone crazy would want to mingle and give money to people who dislike you.

[oh the horror]

I want to believe the OP is trolling. There is no way you're that ****ing stupid dude.

[rlsmooth775]

:coleman:

Blacks did only as much as they could do own their owns. Trust, if blacks were really making it they would have never given a damn and integration. But they were only getting so far.

-Redd Foxx playing a black owned night club wasn't getting half the money he would playing a white club.
-Is Jackie Robinson over in the Negro League was getting the money ahd recognition as Joe DiMaggio, you think he'd give a damn about coming over to the Major Leagues.
-Black were running black-owned theaters and movie production company's as far back as the 1920s and 1930 with directors like Paul Robenson. Of course they couldn't get their films out to the major company's. Every once in a while you'll have a black casted film like Carmen Jones.

Blacks were doing fine on their own. They should have worked harder to make black institutions stronger. Not sell out to whites and make them more money.

[rlsmooth775]

I want to believe the OP is trolling. There is no way you're that ****ing stupid dude.

You can't deconstruct anything i said.

[IamRAMBO24]

OP has a point. Asians are moving up in America because they are making money off their own people. The civil rights movement hasn't done sh*t for black people other than allow them to dominate a sport the white man is making money off of.

[rlsmooth775]

OP has a point. Asians are moving up in America because they are making money off their own people. The civil rights movement hasn't done sh*t for black people other than allow them to dominate a sport the white man is making money off of.

Someone gets it.

[IamRAMBO24]

Someone gets it.

I'm a genius.

[rlsmooth775]

Michael King was no hero to black folks. He did nothing but help the people who hated him.

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You can't deconstruct anything i said.


Besides the fact that EVER SINGLE WORD of your initial post was false.

Yeah, besides that, you are right.

[rlsmooth775]

Besides the fact that EVER SINGLE WORD of your initial post was false.

Yeah, besides that, you are right.

What was false

[L.Kizzle]

OP has a point. Asians are moving up in America because they are making money off their own people. The civil rights movement hasn't done sh*t for black people other than allow them to dominate a sport the white man is making money off of.
Asians wouldn't be where they are today if it wasn't for MLK.

Asians came in a scooped up a market left vacant by the Blacks in the 80s.

The Blacks destroying themselves is a whole different thread. This is about MLK being the worst to ever happen to Blacks. That's about as false statement if I've ever heard.

[IamRAMBO24]

Michael King was no hero to black folks. He did nothing but help the people who hated him.

What King never envisioned was how much he pissed off the white man. To stop the riots, they gave him the rights, but then they killed him and slowly destroyed the black communties from within since they are now integrated into their society.

[rlsmooth775]

Michael King plagiarized his famous "I have a dream speech" and he was paid off to do it. How can people defend this scumbag. He didn't even care about his family, he left them no money was to busy with those prostitutes.

[IamRAMBO24]

Asians wouldn't be where they are today if it wasn't for MLK.

Asians came in a scooped up a market left vacant by the Blacks in the 80s.

The Blacks destroying themselves is a whole different thread. This is about MLK being the worst to ever happen to Blacks. That's about as false statement if I've ever heard.

So black people were selling chinese food, doing nails, and running businesses that cater to non-speaking english asians? They are moving up because they are running businesses that made real money instead of working for minimum wage jobs.

I can see OP's point because integration took all the customers away from black owned businesses which forced them to shut down.

[rlsmooth775]

Asians wouldn't be where they are today if it wasn't for MLK.

Asians came in a scooped up a market left vacant by the Blacks in the 80s.

The Blacks destroying themselves is a whole different thread. This is about MLK being the worst to ever happen to Blacks. That's about as false statement if I've ever heard.

MLK told black folks to rely on whites to take care of them. Turn the other cheek forget about the abuse, go work and give more money to white people. Forget about improving black communities and businesses.

[9erempiree]

So black people were selling chinese food, doing nails, and running businesses that cater to non-speaking english asians? They are moving up because they are running businesses that made real money instead of working for minimum wage jobs.

I can see OP's point because integration took all the customers away from black owned businesses which forced them to shut down.

Don't forget blacks were teaching kung fu and karate before the Asians came along. :lol

[rlsmooth775]

:coleman:

Blacks did only as much as they could do own their owns. Trust, if blacks were really making it they would have never given a damn and integration. But they were only getting so far.

-Redd Foxx playing a black owned night club wasn't getting half the money he would playing a white club.
-Is Jackie Robinson over in the Negro League was getting the money ahd recognition as Joe DiMaggio, you think he'd give a damn about coming over to the Major Leagues.
-Black were running black-owned theaters and movie production company's as far back as the 1920s and 1930 with directors like Paul Robenson. Of course they couldn't get their films out to the major company's. Every once in a while you'll have a black casted film like Carmen Jones.

White people have brainwashed black people for years. A lot of black people felt like they needed validation from white folks. They wanted to be around white folks cause they were trained to hate themselves. Think about it we live in a country where black people believe in a religion taught to them by their oppressor. Brainwashing is real man.

[chosen_one6]

The worst thing to ever happen to black people was f*cking self-righteous Anglo-Saxxons that took it upon themselves to destroy families and enslave black people (then known as Africans.)

OP, shut the F*CK up when you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

[rlsmooth775]

The worst thing to ever happen to black people was f*cking self-righteous Anglo-Saxxons that took it upon themselves to destroy families and enslave black people (then known as Africans.)

OP, shut the F*CK up when you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

:facepalm

[rlsmooth775]

The worst thing to ever happen to black people was f*cking self-righteous Anglo-Saxxons that took it upon themselves to destroy families and enslave black people (then known as Africans.)

OP, shut the F*CK up when you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

If you believe that why do you support MLK and his plan for integration. :facepalm

[chosen_one6]

If you believe that why do you support MLK and his plan for integration. :facepalm

If I believe that?

I don't just believe it. It's fact. And if YOU don't believe that was the worst thing to ever happen to black people, then may your god help you.

[rlsmooth775]

If I believe that?

I don't just believe it. It's fact. And if YOU don't believe that was the worst thing to ever happen to black people, then may your god help you.

If you blame whites for black struggle in the 20th and 21st century why would you integrate with them. Why not improve black businesses like BTW wanted or the great malcolm x.

[chosen_one6]

If you blame whites for black struggle in the 20th and 21st century why would you integrate with them. Why not improve black businesses like BTW wanted or the great malcolm x.

You can't beat the white oppression by segregating yourselves and trying to do better than them. They hold too much power and wealth.

[rlsmooth775]

You can't beat the white oppression by segregating yourselves and trying to do better than them. They hold too much power and wealth.

You have been brainwashed. Do some research on black people before integration you will be shocked on how good things were compared to now. Black families were stronger, and black people controlled their own stuff. Giving money to white businesses buying their products and working for them didn't help black people.

[chosen_one6]

You have been brainwashed. Do some research on black people before integration you will be shocked on how good things were compared to now. Black families were stronger, and black people controlled their own stuff. Giving money to white businesses buying their products and working for them didn't help black people.

So you think we should still be segregated? That is the dumbest thing I have read today. Congratulations.

[rlsmooth775]

So you think we should still be segregated? That is the dumbest thing I have read today. Congratulations.

Black people were better during segregation and it only would have gotten better over time. Tell me what was so great about integration all it did was give whites more power. Why do you think some whites wanted integration good business decision.

[CavaliersFTW]

Black people were better during segregation and it only would have gotten better over time. Tell me what was so great about integration all it did was give whites more power. Why do you think some whites wanted integration good business decision.
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[rlsmooth775]

someone explain this to me. How can people who claim to be pro black love and support mlk when he stopped the growth of black business. How did integration help black folks answer that question. How is giving money and supporting white owned establishments helping black people

[Raymone]

It's all about skin color with you people.

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WHY THE FUHCK HAS THIS THREAD NOT BEEN DELETED YET?

MODS ON VACATION?

WTF?

THIS SH1T IS DISGUSTING

[rlsmooth775]

ISH you have really disappointed me with this one.

WHY THE FUHCK HAS THIS THREAD NOT BEEN DELETED YET?

MODS ON VACATION?

WTF?

THIS SH1T IS DISGUSTING

What have I said that isn't true

[IamRAMBO24]

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What is wrong with a black guy hating another black guy? I support this.

[rlsmooth775]

OP, if you are really not trolling, are you referring to "Black Wall Street"?

Just do research on black folks pre integration. How am I trolling why is everything about trolling why do people get butthurt when you discuss life.

[rlsmooth775]

Are you going to answer my question? Are you referring to Black Wall Street?

:facepalm

I just told you what to research.

[rlsmooth775]

Michael King plagiarized his doctoral thesis.

[BasedTom]

The worst thing to ever happen to black people was f*cking self-righteous Anglo-Saxxons that took it upon themselves to destroy families and enslave black people (then known as Africans.)

OP, shut the F*CK up when you don't know what the hell you're talking about.
The English, French, and Portuguese weren't launching deep incursions into Africa. The slaves they bought were already captured by rival African tribes and would have been sold as slaves somewhere else.

Does that make it less abhorrent that they were transported across the Atlantic? No. But slavery is an ancient institution, and has been practiced upon members of the same race on each other many times in history.

[BasedTom]

Oh and Africa had rich ass kingdoms- not just happy pygmy men in the congo. You know how those kings got rich as ****?

[BasedTom]

Also, I doubt that integration had such a negative effect on black businesses. To this day there is a lot of self-segregation and businesses that basically only serve black people living in that neighborhood. As you say, people would prefer to be around like minded people with a similar background and culture- not those who they view as potentially hostile.

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What have I said that isn't true

Like I've already said numerous times, nothing, nothing you said in your initial post was even remotely accurate.

It's quite sat and pathetic and I don't like you.

Where the fuhck are the Mods at?

[rlsmooth775]

Like I've already said numerous times, nothing, nothing you said in your initial post was even remotely accurate.

It's quite sat and pathetic and I don't like you.

Where the fuhck are the Mods at?

Be specific

[rlsmooth775]

Now you do some research. Look into Black Wall Street and tell me what caused it's downfall. Look closely to specifically May 30th - June 1st, 1921

:biggums:

Did you not comprehend what i wrote to you

[KNOW1EDGE]

The guy was a giant phony who did absolutely nothing good. Before integration black people owned more businesses. They had their own hotels, schools, transportation, sports leagues. You have all these pro blacks blaming whites for not hiring them, but they never blame king for pushing integration.

False -not up for debate.

The rest is just pointless drivel

[BasedTom]

why do u expect the mods to be here?
the mods are shitty they don't do anything. jeff just modded them so it looked like he gave two shits about his website
Make a thread criticizing Israel and you can find out real quick

[rlsmooth775]

False -not up for debate.

The rest is just pointless drivel

Michael king was a pastor who cheated on his wife with numerous prostitutes. He plagiarized his doctoral thesis, How is he not a phony please explain. Blacks before interrogation were forced to do things for themselves more black owned stores, hotels, movie theaters etc.

[rlsmooth775]

Keep curvin my question ****boy

what happened on May 30th - June 1st, 1921 in Tulsa, Oklahoma?

:roll: You ignore everything i was alluding to in my op and you want me to answer your posts

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Michael king was a pastor who cheated on his wife with numerous prostitutes. He plagiarized his doctoral thesis, How is he not a phony please explain. Blacks before interrogation were forced to do things for themselves more black owned stores hotels movie theaters etc.

Are you stupid? -that's a rhetorical question, we already know.

You said he has done nothing good. That is quite obviously false.

You said before integration black people owned more business' than after integration. That is also quite obviously false.

You are a sick individual. A pathetic soul.

I'ma pray for you tonight

[rlsmooth775]

Are you stupid? -that's a rhetorical question, we already know.

You said he has done nothing good. That is quite obviously false.

You said before integration black people owned more business' than after integration. That is also quite obviously false.

You are a sick individual. A pathetic soul.

I'ma pray for you tonight

It's true do research on blacks pre Dr king and this whole integration movement.

[rlsmooth775]

Knowe1edge probably doesn't know some black people were millionaires pre integration.

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It's true do research on blacks pre Dr king and this whole integration movement.

Dude.

Black people pre-integration owned more businesses than black people post-integration (today)??

Serious? :biggums:

Why don't you post some links to all this genius information you have found that the rest of us have been missing out on. I'll wait.

[rlsmooth775]

Dude.

Black people pre-integration owned more businesses than black people post-integration (today)??

Serious? :biggums:

Why don't you post some links to all this genius information you have found that the rest of us have been missing out on. I'll wait.

Yes obviously blacks had to do things for themselves. :facepalm SEGREGATION meaning they weren't allowed in white establishments. A quick google search or a trip to the library and you can find info on the subject matter. Do i really have to show you.

[dude77]

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/popcorn_2.gif

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Yes obviously blacks had to do things for themselves. :facepalm SEGREGATION meaning they weren't allowed in white establishments. A quick google search or a trip to the library and you can find info on the subject matter. Do i really have to show you.

So yo admit that blacks own more businesses post integration than before MLK did what he did.

So you admit MLK did good.

No need to look up any of those links that you know don't exist.

[rlsmooth775]

So yo admit that blacks own more businesses post integration than before MLK did what he did.

So you admit MLK did good.

No need to look up any of those links that you know don't exist.

http://atlantablackstar.com/2013/12/09/5-ways-integration-underdeveloped-black-america/ :no:

[rlsmooth775]

So yo admit that blacks own more businesses post integration than before MLK did what he did.

So you admit MLK did good.

No need to look up any of those links that you know don't exist.

Black homes, black businesses, black power all destoryed after integration thank you MLK

[KNOW1EDGE]

MLK was a horribly wicked man with a heart full of hatred and his number one goal in life was to ruin black people, and he was successful.

MLK is the one to blame for all the present-day problems that black people face. Disregard and deny responsibility and accountability for any and all black people who came after MLK. Everything is his fault.

Got it. Thanks OP

[Bobby13]

The civil rights movement was ultimately a massive failure
MLK was an integral figure in the movement
OP isn't wrong at all

[rlsmooth775]

MLK was a horribly wicked man with a heart full of hatred and his number one goal in life was to ruin black people, and he was successful.

MLK is the one to blame for all the present-day problems that black people face. Disregard and deny responsibility and accountability for any and all black people who came after MLK. Everything is his fault.

Got it. Thanks OP

MLK is the face of dysfunctional african americans. Was he not the figure head of integration you can be butthurt and sore knowing i'm right.

[rlsmooth775]

MLK should have just fit in with his people not fit out.

[rlsmooth775]

America should celebrate real black people like malcolm and booker t not sell outs like Michael King

[KNOW1EDGE]

So you think MLK was a bad person and that Americans should look up to Malcom X (a proven murderer and racist) got it.

[GimmeThat]

and JFK was the worst thing to ever happen to capitalism

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[Dresta]

Let's be honest here: it was a mistake to abolish slavery because you were always going to have psychological baggage due to the inferiority complexes of blacks, resenting their formerly being property of the white man, and now expected to be grateful for not being, and by whites who still think they're superior because, after all, intellectual advances are accumulated through generations, passed down and consolidated by the institution of the family (this has been demonstrated through epigenetics, the experiences of the parents matter when it comes to the genetic makeup of the child). This is why, superficially at least, it is quite easy for people to say things like 'whites more intelligent than blacks' because, on average, they are. But this is not the fault of blacks, nor to the credit of whites, and generalisations always trivialise the individual, which is a bad thing, as of course, many black people are more intelligent than many white people.

What they should have done was extend slavery to include whites before getting rid of it - this would have levelled the playing field somewhat before starting the race. Hard to do anything about it now really, especially as creating dependancy never works: it only creates more dependants, and will make things worse. Making life easier for people doesn't make them more likely to succeed as human beings, and it certainly doesn't produce better spokesmen, just compare Frederick Douglass with Al Sharpton, for example :lol

[MavsSuperFan]

Let's be honest here: it was a mistake to abolish slavery because you were always going to have psychological baggage due to the inferiority complexes of blacks, resenting their formerly being property of the white man, and now expected to be grateful for not being, and by whites who still think they're superior because, after all, intellectual advances are accumulated through generations, passed down and consolidated by the institution of the family (this has been demonstrated through epigenetics, the experiences of the parents matter when it comes to the genetic makeup of the child). This is why, superficially at least, it is quite easy for people to say things like 'whites more intelligent than blacks' because, on average, they are. But this is not the fault of blacks, nor to the credit of whites, and generalisations always trivialise the individual, which is a bad thing, as of course, many black people are more intelligent than many white people.

What they should have done was extend slavery to include whites before getting rid of it - this would have levelled the playing field somewhat before starting the race. Hard to do anything about it now really, especially as creating dependancy never works: it only creates more dependants, and will make things worse. Making life easier for people doesn't make them more likely to succeed as human beings, and it certainly doesn't produce better spokesmen, just compare Frederick Douglass with Al Sharpton, for example :lol

:biggums: Its rare to see a pro slavery argument

[MavsSuperFan]

Black homes, black businesses, black power all destoryed after integration thank you MLK
If you think black people are worse off today than pre 1960s you are an idiot. Black people are far more powerful today than before the civil rights movement. In practice many blacks werent even allowed to vote, today we have a black president.

I suspect you are only trolling.

[MavsSuperFan]

Black people were better during segregation and it only would have gotten better over time. Tell me what was so great about integration all it did was give whites more power. Why do you think some whites wanted integration good business decision.

Black people were better during segregation
Can you provide some stats and a source to support this?

I have heard that black families were less likely to be divorced or single parent during this time, but I dont think the break down in the black family is primarily related to integration.


Tell me what was so great about integration all it did was give whites more power.

Because institutions were inherently unequal. Black schools, did not have the funding white schools had. Black hospitals were inferior to white hospitals because of similar reasons.

Blacks received a lower level of education on average (I am too lazy to look it up but IIRC black schools back then received a fraction of the per student funding white schools received).

So many black doctors, lawyers, accountants, engineers, economists, etc benefited from integration

[NumberSix]

and JFK was the worst thing to ever happen to capitalism
There's no such thing.

[NumberSix]

You mean their history of getting shipped across the ocean so they can be slaves to the white man and free black men? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

And kinda ironic because february is literally "black history month"
Fixed.

[Nowitness]

Still preached falsity and worshiped a book used against him and his people for centuries. Lol.

Just as his name sake was still antisemitic and preached the destruction of the Jews less the convert to Christianity.

What a glorious history.

[rlsmooth775]

If you think black people are worse off today than pre 1960s you are an idiot. Black people are far more powerful today than before the civil rights movement. In practice many blacks werent even allowed to vote, today we have a black president.

I suspect you are only trolling.

Blacks were better off before integration do some research. People who say otherwise don't know history. How are black people more powerful now when they owned more businesses back than. Sure on average white establishments were better but that's only because they were around longer. Integration stopped the growth of the black community. Black families are also worse now than they were pre integration.

[rlsmooth775]

Why would you join people who hate your guts

[Trollsmasher]

The worst thing to ever happen to black people was f*cking self-righteous Anglo-Saxxons that took it upon themselves to destroy families and enslave black people (then known as Africans.)

OP, shut the F*CK up when you don't know what the hell you're talking about.
Europeans just bought them from their own kings and muslims:confusedshrug:

At least US did not get as ****ed as South Africa got. The national power grid there is about to completly collapse thanks to the total incompetency of ANC and its racist politics. Then we will get to see if the white man is still capable of shooting blacks in droves:lol

[Demon Lizard]

Why would you join people who hate your guts

That raises a good question: Why are you here?

[KobesFinger]

I'm British so MLK did nothing for us, however didn't he fight for the right to vote?

[bballnoob1192]

almost all historically significant people are shitbag humans or have shitbag pasts, but this doesn't change anything about what they did for others. I personally don't remeber great people for being great humans, they should be remeber for what they did for humanity.

[MavsSuperFan]

I'm British so MLK did nothing for us, however didn't he fight for the right to vote?
Among other things, yes. A huge part of the civil rights movement was removing barriers from voting, specifically designed to make it almost impossible for blacks to vote in the south.

[MavsSuperFan]

Why would you join people who hate your guts
Perhaps institutions inhabited by those people that hate you are critical to your success and you need to deal with it to better your own life.

[ItsMillerTime]

Blacks were better off before integration do some research. People who say otherwise don't know history. How are black people more powerful now when they owned more businesses back than. Sure on average white establishments were better but that's only because they were around longer. Integration stopped the growth of the black community. Black families are also worse now than they were pre integration.

http://madworldnews.com/wp-content/uploads/obamaheckled.jpg

[Milbuck]

This girl laughed at my weiner today. Weirdest part is that it didn't even bother me, all I could think about is what I was getting for dinner tonight. I guess this is what feels like to have total acceptance and confidence in your body.

[MavsSuperFan]

Blacks were better off before integration do some research. People who say otherwise don't know history. How are black people more powerful now when they owned more businesses back than. Sure on average white establishments were better but that's only because they were around longer. Integration stopped the growth of the black community. Black families are also worse now than they were pre integration.
No they were not.


How are black people more powerful now when they owned more businesses back than.
Nope, black people were incredibly powerless back then. Whites literally lynched black people without proof and with zero legal consequences

I would like you to source something that shows blacks used to own more businesses than they do now.


Black families are also worse now than they were pre integration.
That has very little if anything to do with integration. Also divorce rates have increased in all demographic groups.

[KobesFinger]

I don't understand how OP can think having zero powers is a better situation? Ever heard of Emmett Till? Kid got murdered by a bunch of men for wolf-whistling at a white woman and they didn't get charged.

[rlsmooth775]

No they were not.


Nope, black people were incredibly powerless back then. Whites literally lynched black people without proof and with zero legal consequences

I would like you to source something that shows blacks used to own more businesses than they do now.


That has very little if anything to do with integration. Also divorce rates have increased in all demographic groups.

If you were paying attention i already put out a link. If you want more info buy books on blacks before integration. Before segregation blacks were forced to do things by themselves. Black people had hotels banks theaters supermarkets

[rlsmooth775]

I don't understand how OP can think having zero powers is a better situation? Ever heard of Emmett Till? Kid got murdered by a bunch of men for wolf-whistling at a white woman and they didn't get charged.

Thats another reason blacks should have been segregated so that wouldn't bappen

[rlsmooth775]

Perhaps institutions inhabited by those people that hate you are critical to your success and you need to deal with it to better your own life.

Do research on blacks pre civil rights they were doing just fine. They should have continued what they were doing to make a stronger black community. working for whites does nothing to help black people . Buying their products doesn't help black people

[MavsSuperFan]

Do research on blacks pre civil rights they were doing just fine. They should have continued what they were doing to make a stronger black community. working for whites does nothing to help black people . Buying their products doesn't help black people
:lol :lol nice trolling.
Dat golden age of jim crow

[KobesFinger]

Thats another reason blacks should have been segregated so that wouldn't bappen

:biggums:

[rlsmooth775]

:lol :lol nice trolling.
Dat golden age of jim crow

Im talking about businesses not the abuse they suffered from the klan. Thats another reason why they shoshouldn't have integrated why join the enemy

[rlsmooth775]

You white liberals and ignorant black folks don't get it. Michael king destroyed modern black culture with integration less black owned businesses thats a fact

[NumberSix]

You white liberals and ignorant black folks don't get it. Michael king destroyed modern black culture with integration less black owned businesses thats a fact
No he didn't. He advocated more freedom, which is always good. What destroyed the black family is insane left-wing policies like... women on welfare get more money if there's no man in the house.

[rlsmooth775]

No he didn't. He advocated more freedom, which is always good. What destroyed the black family is insane left-wing policies like... women on welfare get more money if there's no man in the house.

My main problem is the decrease in black ownership. Black families being destroyed has to do with integration and other things as well

[rlsmooth775]

I don't understand how OP can think having zero powers is a better situation? Ever heard of Emmett Till? Kid got murdered by a bunch of men for wolf-whistling at a white woman and they didn't get charged.

Also with emmett till they could have killed white people in retaliation.

[KobesFinger]

Also with emmett till they could have killed white people in retaliation.

I mean, I already know you're trolling but Jesus

[rlsmooth775]

I mean, I already know you're trolling but Jesus

Ever heard of an eye for a eye. How am I trolling everything i said is true a quick google search will show everything I said is true

[Droid101]

No he didn't. He advocated more freedom, which is always good. What destroyed the black family is insane left-wing policies like... women on welfare get more money if there's no man in the house.
I too believe little kids should starve because their parents made bad choices. Solidarity!

[Dresta]

:biggums: Its rare to see a pro slavery argument
You're welcome. As you can see, i like to be fair, and its always interesting to hear something fresh for once :pimp: .

[NumberSix]

I too believe little kids should starve because their parents made bad choices. Solidarity!
What in the world are you talking about?

[GimmeThat]

I too believe little kids should starve because their parents made bad choices. Solidarity!

You are not implying that if they eat something different than their parents, of all its implications now, are you

[MavsSuperFan]

You white liberals and ignorant black folks don't get it. Michael king destroyed modern black culture with integration less black owned businesses thats a fact
I am curious why you call him michael king.


less black owned businesses thats a fact
please provide a creditable source that black people owned more business or were richer/more financially well off on average during the era of Jim Crow than they are today. Based on everything I have learned, the majority of black employees were employed in menial labor jobs during this era. Eg. females in service roles and males in physically demanding jobs.


No he didn't. He advocated more freedom, which is always good. What destroyed the black family is insane left-wing policies like... women on welfare get more money if there's no man in the house.

That had an effect, but its blaming a symptom without addressing the core cause of the problem.

The reason that black people are disproportionately dependent on welfare in the first place has a lot to do with less opportunities for blacks and the fact that economic mobility in general is quite difficult. Eg. if your parents were poor, you will probably grow up to be poor, and if your parents are rich you will probably grow up to be rich.

Also american culture overall become a lot more accepting of single parent families.

[MavsSuperFan]

What in the world are you talking about?
you previous post indicated an objection to welfare to poor single black mothers. droid is saying that without that welfare the lives of many people would be made much more onerous

[NumberSix]

I am curious why you call him michael king.


please provide a creditable source that black people owned more business or were richer/more financially well off on average during the era of Jim Crow than they are today.



That had an effect, but its blaming a symptom without addressing the core cause of the problem.

The reason that black people are disproportionately dependent on welfare in the first place has a lot to do with less opportunities for blacks and the fact that economic mobility in general is quite difficult. Eg. if your parents were poor, you will probably grow up to be poor, and if your parents are rich you will probably grow up to be rich.

Also american culture overall become a lot more accepting of single parent families.
Exactly which opportunities are shut off to blacks? Are there a bunch of "no blacks allowed" universities and industries I'm unaware of?

[NumberSix]

you previous post indicated an objection to welfare to poor single black mothers. droid is saying that without that welfare the lives of many people would be made much more onerous
Where did you get such an idea? :wtf:

[GimmeThat]

the worst thing that could happen to anyone,
Is to take any pioneers work, in a literal fashion.

[MavsSuperFan]

Where did you get such an idea? :wtf:

No he didn't. He advocated more freedom, which is always good. What destroyed the black family is insane left-wing policies like... women on welfare get more money if there's no man in the house.
Insane left wing policies is not exactly an endorsement of giving poor single black mothers welfare.

[GimmeThat]

Insane left wing policies is not exactly an endorsement of giving poor single black mothers welfare.

You do understand you just agreed with the title, dont you.?

[MavsSuperFan]

Exactly which opportunities are shut off to blacks? Are there a bunch of "no blacks allowed" universities and industries I'm unaware of?

Its not that but blacks do face a lot of stuff that whites dont. eg. there have been experiments done where 2 identical resumes were submitted to a job. One with a white name (eg. Blake Shields or greg or emily) and one with a black name (eg, Lamarcus Washington or jamal or lakisha) and the white names do better on getting interviews than black names. IIRC there are even experiments where the black named resumes are given more relevant work experience and education and still do worse than white named resumes.

http://www.povertyactionlab.org/publication/are-emily-and-greg-more-employable-lakisha-and-jamal-field-experiment-labor-market-discr
http://www.nber.org/digest/sep03/w9873.html
http://www.nber.org/papers/w9873
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/06/weekinreview/06Luo.html

Also IMO the truth is education is a little overrated as a method of promoting economic mobility in a lot of cases. I cant speak for all industries/professions, but in my profession social networking/business connections is far more relevant to acquiring employment, then is education.

With few exceptions education is just a threshold that candidates have to reach, and once they are at that level, (eg. you have your degree/designation/any other qualification) it becomes almost irrelevant. Eg. I work as an auditor and have my CPA, basically everyone does so its almost irrelevant.

I got my foot into the door, because my dad was in this industry and got my first accounting related job as a co-op university student at a firm via that connection. Later i was an articling student at the firm until I got my CPA.

I know people I went to school with that were great students (from working on projects with them) that eventually moved on because they just never got a position with an accounting firm. If you dont get your CPA basically you just do bookkeeping and its very hard to pass the Uniform CPA exam without the support, training and structure of a firm

[MavsSuperFan]

You do understand you just agreed with the title, dont you.?
not really, I think single mothers of all races should be given welfare.

its really unfair to the kids if you dont.

Its not what caused the break down in the black family imo. Its not like single white mothers dont get the same welfare in the same economic condition. I acknowledge it creates an incentive for poor people not to get married but the fact that are trying to get welfare in the first place is a symptom of the core problem of their limited economic opportunities.

[NumberSix]

Insane left wing policies is not exactly an endorsement of giving poor single black mothers welfare.
I said single parent households shouldn't get MORE welfare than 2 parent households.

Point out the part where I said single mothers shouldn't get welfare at all? :confusedshrug:

[NumberSix]

not really, I think single mothers of all races should be given welfare.

its really unfair to the kids if you dont.

Its not what caused the break down in the black family imo. Its not like single white mothers dont get the same welfare in the same economic condition. I acknowledge it creates an incentive for poor people not to get married but the fact that are trying to get welfare in the first place is a symptom of the core problem of their limited economic opportunities.
Who is arguing that certain races shouldn't get welfare and other races should? :wtf:

[longtime lurker]

"We have fought hard and long for integration, as I believe we should have, and I know that we will win. But I've come to believe we're integrating into a burning house."

Guess who said that quote?

[KNOW1EDGE]

So we delete threads about Islam.

But we allow people to make up stuff and defame one of the greatest americans in history?

FUHCK YOU ISH

[rlsmooth775]

I am curious why you call him michael king.


please provide a creditable source that black people owned more business or were richer/more financially well off on average during the era of Jim Crow than they are today. Based on everything I have learned, the majority of black employees were employed in menial labor jobs during this era. Eg. females in service roles and males in physically demanding jobs.



That had an effect, but its blaming a symptom without addressing the core cause of the problem.

The reason that black people are disproportionately dependent on welfare in the first place has a lot to do with less opportunities for blacks and the fact that economic mobility in general is quite difficult. Eg. if your parents were poor, you will probably grow up to be poor, and if your parents are rich you will probably grow up to be rich.

Also american culture overall become a lot more accepting of single parent families.

I already put a link in this thread you weren't paying attention. I call hm Michael cause thats his real legal name. His name was never officially changed to martin

[rlsmooth775]

So we delete threads about Islam.

But we allow people to make up stuff and defame one of the greatest americans in history?

FUHCK YOU ISH

Name me one thing i made up. Its proven if you read books, and look up info online black people had more businesses during segregation.

[KNOW1EDGE]

Name me one thing i made up. Its proven if you read books, and look up info online black people had more businesses during segregation.

Ive already told you about a thousand times.

In your original post you said MLK did nothing good.

You also said blacks owned more business' before integration compared to now.

Both of those statements are 100% false and this thread should be deleted.

But ISH doesn't cate about MLK, they care about ISIS

[rlsmooth775]

Ive already told you about a thousand times.

In your original post you said MLK did nothing good.

You also said blacks owned more business' before integration compared to now.

Both of those statements are 100% false and this thread should be deleted.

But ISH doesn't cate about MLK, they care about ISIS

Really i already showed you a link in the previous pages. You refuse to do research you will see i'm right. Black people had to have more businesses because of segregation it forced them to.

[rlsmooth775]

Lol all these people who defend king don't even know his real name