True or False: Iverson would average 35 in today's league?

[IGOTGAME]

do you think he averages 35 a game in this league?

[SugarHill]

dude averaged 33 as a 30 year old when they changed the rules lol

[navy]

Depends on his team and shot attempts. It's possible.

[LoneyROY7]

Yes, on 45+ percent from field.

[Eric Cartman]

Yes, but that doesn't mean his team would be a contender with all the teams that predicate alot of all ball movement currently.

[greatest-ever]

Id say probably not. Or if he would it would be on poor efficiency, around the 50-52 ts% range.

[TheMarkMadsen]

yes he would also be at the line 12+ times per game in todays league

[CavaliersFTW]

I don't know he's one of the best scoring PG's of all time though so it's probably very possible under the right system.

[IGOTGAME]

Id say probably not. Or if he would it would be on poor efficiency, around the 50-52 ts% range.

he averaged 33 when he was past his prime on good efficiency. why would you assume bad efficiency?

Watching some AI highlights and I don't see how he isnt take 10-15 free throws a game. He was just too relentless and too quick.

[Milbuck]

I don't know about volume, that would depend heavily on how his team's constructed, but his efficiency would be much higher regardless imo. His rep took a hit for his efficiency, but the dude did play in one of the toughest eras of defensive basketball, and was taking a beating every night..and when the rule changes arrive he's dropping 33 a game on 54-55% TS at 30 years old. Peak AI would be absolutely untouchable right now.

[greatest-ever]

he averaged 33 when he was past his prime on good efficiency. why would you assume bad efficiency?

Watching some AI highlights and I don't see how he isnt take 10-15 free throws a game. He was just too relentless and too quick.
I don't believe he was past his prime that season, but he was on the tail end of it. He averaged 33 on 54 ts% so i dont think its unreasonable to say that with a 2 ppg increase that his ts% would fall some.

[Joyner82reload]

Probably

35 ppg 33 FGA 12 FTA 40 FG%

He would still be a high volume, below average efficiency scorer that would be a cancer for a team with other decent players.

[avonbarksdale]

Probably

35 ppg 33 FGA 12 FTA 40 FG%

He would still be a high volume, below average efficiency scorer that would be a cancer for a team with other decent players.


he won an mvp and took a pretty weak team to the finals lol

[IGOTGAME]

I don't believe he was past his prime that season, but he was on the tail end of it. He averaged 33 on 54 ts% so i dont think its unreasonable to say that with a 2 ppg increase that his ts% would fall some.

He was old by then. He wasn't elite despite the scoring stats. You could tell by watching him that he couldnt do what he used to do, he lost a lot of quickness.

You know it wasn't prime AI when people when it wasn't even considered AI's team when he averaged 33 points a game.

[SugarHill]

He was old by then. He wasn't elite despite the scoring stats. You could tell by watching him that he couldnt do what he used to do, he lost a lot of quickness.

You know it wasn't prime AI when people when it wasn't even considered AI's team when he averaged 33 points a game.
Whose team was it then?

[IGOTGAME]

Whose team was it then?

my bad. got the years mixed up. was thinking about the season he dropped 26 on 48% shooting in Denver.

[SugarHill]

Did you watch basketball back then. That was always Carmello's team.
You cannot be serious :oldlol:

[The Iron Sheik]

Did you watch basketball back then. That was always Carmello's team.

he didn't average 33 when he played with carmelo. he went to denver the year after he did that

[RoundMoundOfReb]

false

[IGOTGAME]

You cannot be serious :oldlol:

i edited as quickly :lol

my bad. for some reason i thought he averaged 30 in Denver.

[Genaro]

Yes, todays game has a lot more FTs and it's easier to penetrate without the handchecking rules but you guys must also ponder that today's game is much more about ball movement than AI era. I think he would average something like Harden, 29 points tops.

[Soundwave]

Possibly yeah, but I think people really underestimate the strain of going from even 31 ppg to 35 ppg.

Each extra ppg above 30 gets progressively tougher. It's not easy to score that many times against NBA players, it eventually takes a toll and is exhausting.

[IGOTGAME]

Yes, todays game has a lot more FTs and it's easier to penetrate without the handchecking rules but you guys must also ponder that today's game is much more about ball movement than AI era. I think he would average something like Harden, 29 points tops.

why do you think AI would play different? Kobe is getting buckets no matter what today's game is about. If prime Kobe is playing, the other teams can do what they want, Kobe is getting 30+. Why would AI be any different.

Also, why would they be less successful. Lets remember, Kobe just won a title a few years ago playing that way.

[Marchesk]

Possibly yeah, but I think people really underestimate the strain of going from even 31 ppg to 35 ppg.

Each extra ppg above 30 gets progressively tougher. It's not easy to score that many times against NBA players, it eventually takes a toll and is exhausting.

That's part of what makes Wilt so special. Dude could actually average 40 FGA a game, while play the entire season save for 8 minutes.

[tpols]

Probably

35 ppg 33 FGA 12 FTA 40 FG%

He would still be a high volume, below average efficiency scorer that would be a cancer for a team with other decent players.

In 220 games post rule changes he averaged 29/7/3 on 45FG.. with 2 steals per game. Those numbers are post prime. Theres no way he shoots less than 42-43% in his prime with a good team given how much he would be getting to the free throw line.


On the flip side westbrook would be guaranteed to shoot sub 40% in 00-04 defensive era, and KD would see a big decrease as well as we know what physical contact does to his game.

[supernova5912]

There's no way to tell because it depends on the teammates, the coaching staff, and how many shot attempts or freethrow attempts he would take. He certainly could if he was playing on a team like the 76ers, Lakers, or Knicks.

[Genaro]

why do you think AI would play different? Kobe is getting buckets no matter what today's game is about. If prime Kobe is playing, the other teams can do what they want, Kobe is getting 30+. Why would AI be any different.
Because the game is different today, it's about all around players. Even when Durant (who is a better scorer than AI because he has a better jumper and is much taller) averaged 32 last year he did with 5 ast a game.
AI would use a screen to penetrate but then the defenses would rotate making him kick it out for shooters, this is how the game is played today.

Plus, no one plays 40+ minutes like he used to.

[imnew09]

AI is overrated. Period.

[IGOTGAME]

Because the game is different today, it's about all around players. Even when Durant (who is a better scorer than AI because he has a better jumper and is much taller) averaged 32 last year he did with 5 ast a game.
AI would use a screen to penetrate but then the defenses would rotate making him kick it out for shooters, this is how the game is played today.

Plus, no one plays 40+ minutes like he used to.

You think defenses can rotate fast enough to get to AI without fouling? They couldn't even get to Derrick Rose with mediocre shooting around him. Also, AI wouldn't come out for more than 10 minutes a game so he'd play close to 40 minutes. He isn't scared of playing more minutes like todays players.

Also, Kobe was getting 30 with ease on good teams past his prime with these rule changes.

Game isn't that much different. Basketball just follows trends and this is the current trend.

[SamuraiSWISH]

He put up 26 ppg on 46% after the 2006 perimeter rule change, in 2008 and he was well past his prime.

The very next season his mind, and body broke down. So he was on the way out the league in terms of being a superstar. Now, put prime Iverson in an even more spaced out, free flowing game that it is today?

If Westbrook, Irving, Wall, Lowry, and Lillard are being hyped ... I'm sure Allen Iverson would fare quite well, probably even better than he had previously in a more offensively depressed era '97 - 2005.

[Nashty]

Don't know about his points average, but I know he would average zero playoff series win :cheers: