is DeAndre J top 8 player right now(srs)

[PerfectCell]

Leading the league in rebounds and fg % and second in blocks

[Prime_Shaq]

Haha weak big man era if he is

[masonanddixon]

He destroys Dallas every time they play.

[ShawkFactory]

You can't be (srs)

[masonanddixon]

Haha weak big man era if he is

How so?

[TaLvsCuaL]

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs7/4214199_o.gif

[Magic731]

Him leading the league in fg% is really quite irrelevant since all his attempts come from dunks and putbacks.

[Prime_Shaq]

How so?
He's all athleticism with no real skills. With that body and jump height he should be eating people alive inside.

[masonanddixon]

He's all athleticism with no real skills. With that body and jump height he should be eating people alive inside.

He does his job well. Rim protector and takes high percentage shots. You can't expect to teach a guy a post game once he's already in the NBA.

[plowking]

Numbers in Feb:

DeAndre: 14/16/1 on 68%
Hassan: 16/12/3 on 65%

Hassan does it in 27 minutes a game, and DeAndre in 35.

If Jordan has a case based on recent play, so does Whiteside.

[Prime_Shaq]

He does his job well. Rim protector and takes high percentage shots. You can't expect to teach a guy a post game once he's already in the NBA.
Didn't he enter the league incredibly raw Outta HS ala Andrew Bynum? How did Bynum end up improving so much and started feasting on the league in 2010? Is a young player not expected to improve?

[Milbuck]

Giannis in February....18/11/4/2/1 on 60% FG, terrific passing that doesn't really show up on the stat sheet, and he's a one man wrecking crew on defense..everything from a rim protector to perimeter defender.

[masonanddixon]

Didn't he enter the league incredibly raw Outta HS ala Andrew Bynum? How did Bynum end up improving so much and started feasting on the league in 2010? Is a young player not expected to improve?

Bynum had skills though even entering the league. Plus I want to see that my big man is maximizing his existing skill set. DJ maximizes what he's good at and stays away from what he knows he'll never be great that. I'd argue thats better than simply being decent at a variety of aspects of the game but not great at any.

There's only about a handful of guys who can develop new skills each offseason and actually implement it into the actual NBA games.

[plowking]

Didn't he enter the league incredibly raw Outta HS ala Andrew Bynum? How did Bynum end up improving so much and started feasting on the league in 2010? Is a young player not expected to improve?

Some people are just not multi facet coordinated. You'll have some people who can run like crazy and jump high as hell, then you ask them to move laterally and they have no idea what they're doing, and no matter how hard they work at it, see very minimal progress.

Some people on the other hand are good at all, and in rare cases great at all.

[T_L_P]

Tyson Chandler is better.

[plowking]

Giannis in February....18/11/4/2/1 on 60% FG, terrific passing that doesn't really show up on the stat sheet, and he's a one man wrecking crew on defense..everything from a rim protector to perimeter defender.

Currently 9th in the league behind Whiteside.

[Milbuck]

Currently 9th in the league behind Whiteside.
I can live with that

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[Prime_Shaq]

Bynum had skills though even entering the league. Plus I want to see that my big man is maximizing his existing skill set. DJ maximizes what he's good at and stays away from what he knows he'll never be great that. I'd argue thats better than simply being decent at a variety of aspects of the game but not great at any.

There's only about a handful of guys who can develop new skills each offseason and actually implement it into the actual NBA games.
Well I do agree that he maximizing his current skillset, I'm saying he could be alot better. He could be the xfactor t turning the Clipps into a championship contender

[masonanddixon]

Well I do agree that he maximizing his current skillset, I'm saying he could be alot better. He could be the xfactor t turning the Clipps into a championship contender

Well you don't want him in the high post or away from the basket when he's a great rebounder...so how else can he improve?

[Prime_Shaq]

Get it deep down low and add some baseline post moves. I don't see why Griffin and DeAndre can mimic the way Gasol and Bynum played which won the Lakers many games :confusedshrug:

[Jud]

Haha, no way.

[supernova5912]

How so?

The 2010s haven't seen as much depth at the power forward/center position with the exception of Anthony Davis, Marc Gasol, Blake Griffin, and a few others I missed. In the 1980s, there was Barkley, McHale, Parish, Gilmore, Laimbeer, and Moses Malone. In the 1990s, there was Malone, Hakeem, Ewing, Robinson, Rodman, Kemp, Mourning, Mutombo, and Derrick Coleman. In the 2000s, there was Duncan, Garnett, Nowitzki, Shaq, Howard, Ben Wallace, Jermaine O' Neal, Webber, Rasheed Wallace, Yao Ming, Gasol, Boozer, Stoudemire, Brand, Jamison, and Jefferson. Let's not even get to 60s' and '70s' where there's 3 big men in the top 10 players all time.

[masonanddixon]

The 2010s haven't seen as much depth at the power forward/center position with the exception of Anthony Davis, Marc Gasol, Blake Griffin, and a few others I missed. In the 1980s, there was Barkley, McHale, Parish, Gilmore, Laimbeer, and Moses Malone. In the 1990s, there was Malone, Hakeem, Ewing, Robinson, Rodman, Kemp, Mourning, Mutombo, and Derrick Coleman. In the 2000s, there was Duncan, Garnett, Nowitzki, Shaq, Howard, Ben Wallace, Jermaine O' Neal, Webber, Rasheed Wallace, Yao Ming, Gasol, Boozer, Stoudemire, Brand, Jamison, and Jefferson. Let's not even get to 60s' and '70s' where there's 3 big men in the top 10 players all time.

There's actually a shitload of really talented and skilled bigmen (Center) right now. It's probably the best I have seen in at least a decade.

[Prime_Shaq]

There's actually a shitload of really talented and skilled bigmen (Center) right now. It's probably the best I have seen in at least a decade.
Well better than the late 00s where it was mainly Dwight. An ancient Shaq was still doing work :oldlol:

[supernova5912]

There's actually a shitload of really talented and skilled bigmen (Center) right now. It's probably the best I have seen in at least a decade.

There's a lot of potential in today's big men (mainly centers) like Monroe, Drummond, Vuvecic, etc. It doesn't necessarily mean they're going to be better than the majority of the players I listed. I mean, look at Brook Lopez or Brandon Roy. Still, I'd take Duncan, Dirk, and Garnett over every big man today except arguably Davis.

[Nastradamus]

Him leading the league in fg% is really quite irrelevant since all his attempts come from dunks and putbacks.

A lot of guys do that, but he's on pace for best FG% since Wilt IIRC

[Dro]

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs7/4214199_o.gif
:lol

[Smoke117]

Giannis in February....18/11/4/2/1 on 60% FG, terrific passing that doesn't really show up on the stat sheet, and he's a one man wrecking crew on defense..everything from a rim protector to perimeter defender.

:yaohappy:

[Eric Cartman]

Offense: Whiteside has skill, Deandre is just trash.

Defense: Wash.

Advantage: Whiteside.

[Genaro]

If everybody else just died and there's only 8 guys left, yes he is

[Demon Lizard]

No he is not (srs)

[ralph_i_el]

The 2010s haven't seen as much depth at the power forward/center position with the exception of Anthony Davis, Marc Gasol, Blake Griffin, and a few others I missed. In the 1980s, there was Barkley, McHale, Parish, Gilmore, Laimbeer, and Moses Malone. In the 1990s, there was Malone, Hakeem, Ewing, Robinson, Rodman, Kemp, Mourning, Mutombo, and Derrick Coleman. In the 2000s, there was Duncan, Garnett, Nowitzki, Shaq, Howard, Ben Wallace, Jermaine O' Neal, Webber, Rasheed Wallace, Yao Ming, Gasol, Boozer, Stoudemire, Brand, Jamison, and Jefferson. Let's not even get to 60s' and '70s' where there's 3 big men in the top 10 players all time.
LMA, zbo, bosh, horford, cousins ect ect...

Bigs are deep the past few seasons

[dab0yech0]

Didn't he enter the league incredibly raw Outta HS ala Andrew Bynum? How did Bynum end up improving so much and started feasting on the league in 2010? Is a young player not expected to improve?

He had a sh!t year at Texas A&M where he averaged like 5 and 5. The coaching staff gave up on him so he didn't really have any time to develop that year in college. Then Dunleavy didn't do much with him his rookie year. Then With Vinny Del Negro he killed DJs confidence by benching him the 4th quarter of every game.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

no. lebron, durant, curry. westbrook, paul, harden, lma, davis....that's 8 right there clearly better.