View Full Version : Could this squad beat Kentucky?
oarabbus
02-11-2015, 04:29 PM
Nate Robinson
Chris Paul
Steph Curry
Ty Lawson
Russell Westbrook
Or is the height differential too much to overcome?
russwest0
02-11-2015, 04:34 PM
Yes. Curry and Westbrook would go apeshit
Yes. Curry and Westbrook would go apeshit
They better hope they dont miss. Ever.
Because Kentucky would score every play.
Per 40 #'s
WCS 7'0" 240
14.9, 9.9, 60%FG
KAT 6'11" 250
17.8, 12.8, 51%
Lyles 6'10" 235
13.5, 9.6, 47%
That's their 3/4/5 starting rotation.
So which of those three will guard these three?
IncarceratedBob
02-11-2015, 04:52 PM
These guys would go ape shit with the college 3. Blow em out by 50
ClipperRevival
02-11-2015, 05:40 PM
Is his a trick question? Of course those guys destroy Kentucky. As a matter of fact, the Knicks or 76ers would destroy Kentucky. I'm sick of people overrating Kentucky and underrating the actual talent at the NBA level.
Captvic
02-11-2015, 05:42 PM
Is his a trick question? Of course those guys destroy Kentucky. As a matter of fact, the Knicks or 76ers would destroy Kentucky. I'm sick of people overrating Kentucky and underrating the actual talent at the NBA level.
Exactly. They're called pros for a reason.
SugarHill
02-11-2015, 05:51 PM
Is his a trick question? Of course those guys destroy Kentucky. As a matter of fact, the Knicks or 76ers would destroy Kentucky. I'm sick of people overrating Kentucky and underrating the actual talent at the NBA level.
Could the NBA guards slow down college bigs?
ClipperRevival
02-11-2015, 06:25 PM
Could the NBA guards slow down college bigs?
Of course not. You can't teach size but those 5 guys are extremely talented and skilled. They would generate steals and jump passing panes and put it on them on the offensive end.
FKAri
02-11-2015, 06:29 PM
They would play it like an undersized team USA vs a no-name country. They'd full court press, fastbreak, and generally blitz them to death.
This team could beat Kentucky but Sixers cant they say. :rolleyes:
Fire Colangelo
02-11-2015, 08:28 PM
Per 40 #'s
WCS 7'0" 240
14.9, 9.9, 60%FG
KAT 6'11" 250
17.8, 12.8, 51%
Lyles 6'10" 235
13.5, 9.6, 47%
That's their 3/4/5 starting rotation.
So which of those three will guard these three?
Using college numbers :oldlol: :oldlol:
Paul and Curry would wipe the floor with them.
JohnMax
02-11-2015, 08:49 PM
I'd take Kentucky
inclinerator
02-11-2015, 10:21 PM
if they played 100 games, kentucky would win 10 at most
of course assuming the made up team has a bench
How good are the Kentucky bigs?
RoundMoundOfReb
02-11-2015, 10:23 PM
This team could beat Kentucky but Sixers cant they say. :rolleyes:
Both would wreck Kentucky. Nerlens Noel right now would be a 20+/10+/3+ player on Kentucky.
IGOTGAME
02-11-2015, 10:24 PM
Nate Robinson
Chris Paul
Steph Curry
Ty Lawson
Russell Westbrook
Or is the height differential too much to overcome?
It would be close.
christian1923
02-11-2015, 10:26 PM
Is his a trick question? Of course those guys destroy Kentucky. As a matter of fact, the Knicks or 76ers would destroy Kentucky. I'm sick of people overrating Kentucky and underrating the actual talent at the NBA level.
You thought the Knicks had nba level talent?
Graviton
02-11-2015, 10:27 PM
Westbrook outrebounds NBA bigs quite often, you put him up against those soft college kids and see what happens. Curry will destroy them with that college 3 point line. Paul will get the steals after they try to feed their bigs thinking it's an easy layup, and then Nate/Westbrook will block the shit out them if they try to score.
lol
24-Inch_Chrome
02-11-2015, 10:27 PM
No college team has a chance against an NBA squad. I'm not sure why this is thread-worthy, the Knicks and the Sixers could spank Kentucky.
KNOW1EDGE
02-11-2015, 10:46 PM
Not sure of OP is serious.
Both would wreck Kentucky. Nerlens Noel right now would be a 20+/10+/3+ player on Kentucky.
You and what's his face are missing the premise of the question.
And no he wouldn't.
deja vu
02-11-2015, 11:08 PM
Jordan's UNC could beat a few NBA teams.
IGOTGAME
02-11-2015, 11:08 PM
Which 7 footer are they gonna be guarding?
Like I said, they better not miss all game, cause the UK squad would score every play against a team of sub 6'2" players (minus Westbrook)
Thats what I was thinking. Last years Kansas team would beat that team easy. Perry Ellis would just get layup after layup after layup against undersized guys.
Thats what I was thinking. Last years Kansas team would beat that team easy. Perry Ellis would just get layup after layup after layup against undersized guys.
Towns would score every play.
So Westbrook and Lawson defending two 7 footers down low?
They would score every single play. And if they missed, they'd probably get the rebound.
deja vu
02-11-2015, 11:12 PM
LOL that NBA team has no interior presence they would get destroyed inside and on the boards.
They have a chance if they shoot 3s all the time and make over half of them, which won't happen.
stephanieg
02-11-2015, 11:17 PM
A college team might have difficulty just getting the ball up the court.
deja vu
02-11-2015, 11:23 PM
A college team might have difficulty just getting the ball up the court.
Are you serious? So college point guards have difficulty bringing up the ball? :roll: Don't be stupid.
That hypothetical NBA team isn't even a great defensive backcourt anyway.
Ariza4three
02-11-2015, 11:24 PM
Are you serious? So college point guards have difficulty bringing up the ball? :roll: Don't be stupid.
yes
deja vu
02-11-2015, 11:28 PM
yes
College point guards who would be playing in the NBA in 1-2 seasons. :lol
Ariza4three
02-11-2015, 11:32 PM
College point guards who would be playing in the NBA in 1-2 seasons. :lol
yeah. they're not used to the speed yet.
IGOTGAME
02-11-2015, 11:33 PM
yeah. they're not used to the speed yet.
depends on the point guard. Most of these guys play heated games with NBA players in the off season.
Ariza4three
02-11-2015, 11:34 PM
depends on the point guard. Most of these guys play heated games with NBA players in the off season.
it isnt "most" at all so idk why you said that.
Both would wreck Kentucky. Nerlens Noel right now would be a 20+/10+/3+ player on Kentucky.
I dunno about Noel doing that but Sixers would trash Kentucky.
IGOTGAME
02-11-2015, 11:34 PM
it isnt "most" at all so idk why you said that.
most of the guys at top schools play with NBA players. yea, its most. Harrison twins dont have a great handle but I'm sure they be fine against Steph Curry
Ariza4three
02-11-2015, 11:35 PM
most of the guys at top schools play with NBA players. yea, its most.
nah
IGOTGAME
02-11-2015, 11:36 PM
nah
ok, so Kentucky players aren't playing with alums in alumni games or workouts?? same for most other top teams.
Ariza4three
02-11-2015, 11:38 PM
ok, so Kentucky players aren't playing with alums in alumni games or workouts?? same for most other top teams.
depends.
ppl just don't understand college and nba and the gap. they have to get used to nba speed. i watched elfrid payton struggle to get the ball up the court in his first couple summer league games
IGOTGAME
02-11-2015, 11:40 PM
depends.
ppl just don't understand college and nba and the gap. they have to get used to nba speed. i watched elfrid payton struggle to get the ball up the court in his first couple summer league games
I depends on the player and his strengths. Payton doesnt have a great handle. But a guy Kyrie Irving was fine from day 1. If you have an NBA handle and athletism then it won't matter. Especially against Steph Curry.
I'm sure Kentucky has someone on their team that could adjust. I know there are several teams in the history of the NBA that had guys that would be more than fine. Not star plays or even great college players, just guys how have a handle and decent quickness.
Ariza4three
02-11-2015, 11:44 PM
I depends on the player and his strengths. Payton doesnt have a great handle. But a guy Kyrie Irving was fine from day 1. If you have an NBA handle and athletism then it won't matter. Especially against Steph Curry.
I'm sure Kentucky has someone on their team that could adjust. I know there are several teams in the history of the NBA that had guys that would be more than fine. Not star plays or even great college players, just guys how have a handle and decent quickness.
Payton has a very good handle. He's not flashy but he doesn't lose the ball often and is very under control. There is no one with Kyrie Irving like handles playing on UK. I don't see why you don't understand that.
LAZERUSS
02-11-2015, 11:45 PM
How many NBA players are on the LSU team that almost beat KU last night? A 6th place SEC team with a 17-7 record.
Or how about the 16-7 Ole Miss team that took KU to an OT game...and with a roster with their tallest player LISTED at 6-10, and a few listed at 6-9?
IGOTGAME
02-11-2015, 11:53 PM
How many NBA players are on the LSU team that almost beat KU last night? A 6th place SEC team with a 17-7 record.
Or how about the 16-7 Ole Miss team that took KU to an OT game...and with a roster with their tallest player LISTED at 6-10, and a few listed at 6-9?
I don't think KU is a great team but there have been college teams that could be a team full of NBA point guards.
ClipperRevival
02-12-2015, 12:04 AM
I don't think KU is a great team but there have been college teams that could be a team full of NBA point guards.
Yeah, but that's a rare occurence. Like 90's UNLV or 90's Duke, etc. Instances where a team was stacked with NBA level talent. This Kentucky squad isn't that great. They are barely beating mediocre college teams.
How many NBA players are on the LSU team that almost beat KU last night? A 6th place SEC team with a 17-7 record.
Or how about the 16-7 Ole Miss team that took KU to an OT game...and with a roster with their tallest player LISTED at 6-10, and a few listed at 6-9?
LSU has big guys.
The hypothetical NBA team in the OP is 5'10, 5'11, 6'0, 6'1, 6'3
Kentucky literally wouldn't have to dribble. The big guys could lob it to each other all the way to the basket.
LAZERUSS
02-12-2015, 12:21 AM
LSU has big guys.
The hypothetical NBA team in the OP is 5'10, 5'11, 6'0, 6'1, 6'3
Kentucky literally wouldn't have to dribble. The big guys could lob it to each other all the way to the basket.
Good point.
My main point was that KU is NOT some super team. They are a collection of freshmen and sophs, most of whom won't sniff the NBA, and the one's who do likely will be ordinary, at best.
Gone are the days of the true Super College Teams...when stacked rosters played together for 3-4 years, and were filled with NBA talent.
iamgine
02-12-2015, 12:33 AM
Nate Robinson
Chris Paul
Steph Curry
Ty Lawson
Russell Westbrook
Or is the height differential too much to overcome?
The mental differential would be too much to overcome.
If Kentucky managed to be calm, and execute their tactic the whole game, then they might have a chance but I don't see that happening against NBA players. Kentucky will likely lose by a wide margin.
Although...we're not talking those 5 just thrown together without at least a week's worth of practice right? In which case Kentucky would win easy.
Good point.
My main point was that KU is NOT some super team. They are a collection of freshmen and sophs, most of whom won't sniff the NBA, and the one's who do likely will be ordinary, at best.
Gone are the days of the true Super College Teams...when stacked rosters played together for 3-4 years, and were filled with NBA talent.
I will agree that the Sixers would wipe the floor with this Kentucky team.
But with the line up in the OP, they would literally not have to miss. Westbrook may get rebounds in games, but his big men are boxing out the other team's big men.
LAZERUSS
02-12-2015, 01:00 AM
I will agree that the Sixers would wipe the floor with this Kentucky team.
But with the line up in the OP, they would literally not have to miss. Westbrook may get rebounds in games, but his big men are boxing out the other team's big men.
It would be interesting to watch a team of shooters battling a bunch of bigs. I suppose the 3pt line would tilt the advantage in favor the "little guys", but I agree that the bigs would be a major problem at the other end.
Milbuck
02-12-2015, 01:07 AM
Kentucky is overrated as ****. I honestly like UW's chances against them in the tournament. Putting them up against not just a scrub team like Philly, but against one with superstars like Curry, WB, CP would be ugly.
Forget the size advantage, it doesn't matter here. None of the Kentucky guys are dominant NBA level bigs that are gonna constantly exploit the match ups. And Westbrook is 6'4", tenacious, strong and explosive, at the very least he can put a body on the guys and cause some resistance a la CP guarding KD. The dude bullies players bigger than him routinely in the NBA, he'll do just fine. And even if the end up getting bullied in the paint, they can crank up the tempo and make them run. Let CP3 and Westbrook start playing full court pressure and trapping the ball handlers.
But there is absolutely nothing they can do about Westbrook attacking. Dude makes some of the toughest NBA defenses look silly, he'd make Kentucky's defense look like a damn layup line. And Steph would light it up from the college 3 like it's free throw practice. Then you have Nate and Lawson in transition, and CP slicing up their defense..
ClipperRevival
02-12-2015, 01:18 AM
Kentucky is overrated as ****. I honestly like UW's chances against them in the tournament. Putting them up against not just a scrub team like Philly, but against one with superstars like Curry, WB, CP would be ugly.
Forget the size advantage, it doesn't matter here. None of the Kentucky guys are dominant NBA level bigs that are gonna constantly exploit the match ups. And Westbrook is 6'4", tenacious, strong and explosive, at the very least he can put a body on the guys and cause some resistance a la CP guarding KD. The dude bullies players bigger than him routinely in the NBA, he'll do just fine. And even if the end up getting bullied in the paint, they can crank up the tempo and make them run. Let CP3 and Westbrook start playing full court pressure and trapping the ball handlers.
But there is absolutely nothing they can do about Westbrook attacking. Dude makes some of the toughest NBA defenses look silly, he'd make Kentucky's defense look like a damn layup line. And Steph would light it up from the college 3 like it's free throw practice. Then you have Nate and Lawson in transition, and CP slicing up their defense..
Ditto. I mean if UK was dominant against college comp and winning by 30-40 every game like the historical UNLV team, I might entertain the idea but they are barely beating average college teams. If UK had a truly dominant big with skills, I might entertain the idea but they don't. They just overwhelm inferior college teams with their size/athleticism.
The NBA guards would play at an unrelentling pass, nullifying UK's size. The close 3 pt line is also a factor. Not to mention the NBA guards would be all over the place on D, jumping passing lanes, stripping balls and making life miserable for UK. Yes, UK's size will obviously be a factor but the NBA guarss beat them quite handily imo. There are levels to this.
KNOW1EDGE
02-12-2015, 01:19 AM
So much retard in this thread.
Retard overload.
ClipperRevival
02-12-2015, 01:26 AM
You thought the Knicks had nba level talent?
Of course they do. They are an NBA team. People get this false notion that a team like the Knicks or Phila are that much worse than Atlanta or GSW. Of course to some extent they are but not bad enough where these teams can't kill a college team like UK. Just think about this.If your differential as a team is -12 points, that means you are getting outscored by 3 points every quarter against NBA comp. That's not that bad when you think about it. To be able to hang with the best teams in the world every quarter and losing each by 3 (on average of course).
Pushxx
02-12-2015, 01:40 AM
Any NBA team would breeze through any college team...
Most top NBA rookies can't even stay on the floor defensively in the NBA as it is.
LAZERUSS
02-12-2015, 01:52 AM
Any NBA team would breeze through any college team...
Most top NBA rookies can't even stay on the floor defensively in the NBA as it is.
Fans forget that the average NBA player has around 3-4+ years of experience, as well. These guys have been practicing long and hard since their college years.
And then when you factor in that the best college players are generally "one-and-done"...AND, that the best players they face are generally "one-and-done"...and the rest would be cannon-fodder for NBA benches...
and the reality is...the best college teams would get waxed on most nights by even the worst NBA teams. Of course, have them play an 82 game schedule, and even the best college teams might eke out a few wins.
IGOTGAME
02-12-2015, 02:01 AM
Fans forget that the average NBA player has around 3-4+ years of experience, as well. These guys have been practicing long and hard since their college years.
And then when you factor in that the best college players are generally "one-and-done"...AND, that the best players they face are generally "one-and-done"...and the rest would be cannon-fodder for NBA benches...
and the reality is...the bests would get waxed on most nights by even the worst NBA teams. Of course, have them play an 82 game schedule, and even the best college teams might eke out a few wins.
that wasnt the question. the question was could that group of pgs beat Kentucky.
They would just be too small. Kentucky wouldnt be the best example of a team but its the hypo. We all know that John Wall's team would beat them for example.If we are just talking recent teams then I'd take John's Walls Kentucky team 9 out of 10 times.
oarabbus
02-12-2015, 03:05 AM
LOL that NBA team has no interior presence they would get destroyed inside and on the boards.
They have a chance if they shoot 3s all the time and make over half of them, which won't happen.
That's the WHOLE ****ing point :hammerhead:
Fans forget that the average NBA player has around 3-4+ years of experience, as well. These guys have been practicing long and hard since their college years.
And then when you factor in that the best college players are generally "one-and-done"...AND, that the best players they face are generally "one-and-done"...and the rest would be cannon-fodder for NBA benches...
and the reality is...the best college teams would get waxed on most nights by even the worst NBA teams. Of course, have them play an 82 game schedule, and even the best college teams might eke out a few wins.
Of course an NBA team would WRECK kentucky. Even an NBA bench would destroy Kentucky.
The point is all these dudes who average 6' collectively, could they beat Kentucky. I was hoping this board would have people who play ball, who know how stupid of an advantage a kinda shitty 6'9" player has over a very skilled 6'1" dude.
If y'all are so sure this group beats Kentucky, switch out Westbrook for Darren Collison or DJ Augustin. They still destroy em? Or take out Curry, and put in Aaron Brooks (they can both rain 3s). Still one sided?
Milbuck
02-12-2015, 03:09 AM
Of course an NBA bench would WRECK kentucky. The point is all these dudes who average 6' collectively, could they beat Kentucky.
If y'all are so sure this group beats Kentucky, switch out Westbrook for Darren Collison or DJ Augustin. They still destroy em? Or take out Curry, and put in Aaron Brooks (they can both rain 3s). Still one sided?
Westbrook and Curry are the ones that make this a slaughter. Westbrook would be absolutely unstoppable going to the basket, and Curry would rain 3s with minimal effort. No matter how much a size advantage they have, Westbrook and Curry are just more unstoppable. And the team's overall quickness/explosiveness could cause major problems defensively if they pressed full court and trapped constantly. I could see WB and CP being a nightmare to deal with for the college kids bringing the ball up.
Replace WB and Curry with Augustin and and Brooks, and yeah, it's way more competitive.
deja vu
02-12-2015, 03:50 AM
C'mon guys it would be dunks and layups for Kentucky every ****ing time. You realize that the tallest player on that hypothetical NBA team is 6'4" right?
bigkingsfan
02-12-2015, 04:05 AM
Team is better off with any NBA scrub at PF/C. Kentucky would get so many of those guys in foul trouble.
ILLsmak
02-12-2015, 05:18 AM
Kentucky has some talented bigs. They have amazing size and athleticism for a college team. That's why I don't think they would fare well vs an NBA team... because their biggest advantage is something the NBA has in spades.
As for this question... hard to tell. Probably not, though. Depends on how feisty they were, I guess.
-Smak
RoseCity07
02-12-2015, 05:25 AM
Do you know how f*cking badly players on the best college team would get locked down by Chris Paul and Westbrook? Kentucky would turn it over about 40 times. Each guard would leave every defender in the dust. Basically it would be a 60 point win.
ILLsmak
02-12-2015, 05:27 AM
Do you know how f*cking badly players on the best college team would get locked down by Chris Paul and Westbrook? Kentucky would turn it over about 40 times. Each guard would leave every defender in the dust. Basically it would be a 60 point win.
lol they could just catch the ball, not dribble it, and lob it to a big every time.
-Smak
tgan3
02-12-2015, 05:51 AM
add the weakest NBA center and they will be winning 100% of the time...
sundizz
02-12-2015, 08:05 AM
Chris Paul guarded Durant. I'm sure he could dominate some college stiffs. Additionally, beastbrook would just destroy any college center. All they would need to do is play man defense and send a double team every time a big guy caught the ball. Additionally, they'd just make the passing angles tough which would lead to to's and 3's. Ty Lawson would be absolutely unstoppable end to end and kicking it out to Curry...jeez.
Curry by himself basically destroyed the NCAA when he was there.
oarabbus
02-12-2015, 03:24 PM
add the weakest NBA center and they will be winning 100% of the time...
:facepalm the whole point of this hypothetical is to not have any tall players on the NBA squad
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