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sundizz
02-13-2015, 06:14 AM
could he win the heavyweight title? I see that Hershel Walker did just fine in his MMA fights at age 48.

Shaq's reach and power (presumably) would be too much for any heavyweight. Thought he doesn't seem to have a natural ability to throw a very technically good punch.

DonD13
02-13-2015, 06:23 AM
:biggums:

hell no
he wouldn't have a chance against, say, Wladimir Klitschko, a guy who was boxing all his life.

he would need more time to even get in shape to be able to survive a 12 round match

the skills he'll never have

what do you mean by Walker did just fine? Did he get a title or did he beat up some cab driver?

bdreason
02-13-2015, 06:27 AM
Combat sports are not like other sports. Some people just don't like to be hit. Or as Mike Tyson so eloquently put it, "everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth".

BRabbiT
02-13-2015, 06:30 AM
could he win the heavyweight title?



no

bigkingsfan
02-13-2015, 06:39 AM
Hershel Walker is one of the greatest athlete ever, Shaq would be gas out in the first round.

Bandito
02-13-2015, 06:44 AM
not this thread again...

iamgine
02-13-2015, 06:57 AM
could he win the heavyweight title? I see that Hershel Walker did just fine in his MMA fights at age 48.

Shaq's reach and power (presumably) would be too much for any heavyweight. Thought he doesn't seem to have a natural ability to throw a very technically good punch.
There's a lot of uncertainties that cannot be answered.

Shaq has the body, but boxing's so much more than that.

The best we can say is he could but it's very unlikely.

chosen_one6
02-13-2015, 07:00 AM
Well we know Shaq's footwork would be good.

He has the reach and if he worked out enough, I'm pretty sure he'd have some pretty good power in his punch.

I think as long as he got his conditioning down (which isn't impossible) he could have a fighting chance. A lot of bigger boxers use their weight to wear the other boxer down. How many boxers are going to be able to withstand Shaq's enormous ass (no homo)? Dude is going to be throwing punches down at his enemies, which I think gives him an advantage with angles. It would be interesting to see, no doubt.

sundizz
02-13-2015, 09:17 AM
Nikolai Valuez is about 7'0, 310 with a shorter reach and significantly less athleticism.

He has gone 50-2 in his career. Flat out, his size, not his skill makes him unstoppable to a large degree of fighters.

We all know Shaq wouldn't be the best, but he could definitely take on a lot of fighters purely because of his size.

Also, Shaq could very easily get into boxing shape in 12 months. That's a lot of time for anyone, let alone a former pro athlete. It would all come down to his motivation and training intensity imo.

There are some unpredictable, like chin strength, ability to sense movement, etc...but based off his inherent natural athleticism I think it'd be fair to say that he is naturally much more blessed than a Valuev in that regard as well.

For a man his size, it is not as much about boxing skill as it is about being able to get an opponent cornered and just throwing a flurry. His shots would be coming from further away, with more power, and right at head level. His opponent would have a hell of a time trying to get away from those flurries, unskilled as they may be.

DonDadda59
02-13-2015, 09:22 AM
Shaq couldn't beat guys literally half his size in DLH or Mosley. Any average HW would toy with him, especially now in his advanced age where he struggles to even walk. :lol

sundizz
02-13-2015, 09:24 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BG4jg14nUK8

I take back everything I said. Shaq would obliterate the heavyweight division if he was under 33 still and had 12 months to train. Even a fat Shaq was basically going toe to toe with Dela Hoya for 2 rounds. Without headgear on Dela Hoya would of got leveled if Shaq actually tried to hurt him and had a bit of training.

DonDadda59
02-13-2015, 09:47 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BG4jg14nUK8

I take back everything I said. Shaq would obliterate the heavyweight division if he was under 33 still and had 12 months to train. Even a fat Shaq was basically going toe to toe with Dela Hoya for 2 rounds. Without headgear on Dela Hoya would of got leveled if Shaq actually tried to hurt him and had a bit of training.

:oldlol:

He did get a 'bit of training' from HOF coach Freddie Roach and lost to a retired, out of shape DLH. Shaq was still an active basketball player then too. He's in far worse shape today than he was in 2009 when he couldn't beat a former pro boxer who he had a foot and 200 lbs on.

But I'm sure he would give Deontay Wilder or Vlad Klitschko a run for their belts :lol

ThePhantomCreep
02-13-2015, 10:26 AM
Nikolai Valuez is about 7'0, 310 with a shorter reach and significantly less athleticism.

He has gone 50-2 in his career. Flat out, his size, not his skill makes him unstoppable to a large degree of fighters.

We all know Shaq wouldn't be the best, but he could definitely take on a lot of fighters purely because of his size.

Also, Shaq could very easily get into boxing shape in 12 months. That's a lot of time for anyone, let alone a former pro athlete. It would all come down to his motivation and training intensity imo.

There are some unpredictable, like chin strength, ability to sense movement, etc...but based off his inherent natural athleticism I think it'd be fair to say that he is naturally much more blessed than a Valuev in that regard as well.

For a man his size, it is not as much about boxing skill as it is about being able to get an opponent cornered and just throwing a flurry. His shots would be coming from further away, with more power, and right at head level. His opponent would have a hell of a time trying to get away from those flurries, unskilled as they may be.

Maybe so, but Valuev's boxing skills are still miles above where Shaq's would be w/ 12 months training.

L.Kizzle
02-13-2015, 11:53 AM
Seth Mitchell would give this dude work.

deja vu
02-13-2015, 12:22 PM
It's hard for an old man to learn a skill that usually requires training from a very young age. Shaq would win some fights but won't be a title contender, even with a year of serious training.

Demon Lizard
02-13-2015, 12:24 PM
No :oldlol:

ThunderLips
02-13-2015, 12:54 PM
As an emphatic boxing fan, I can assure you Shaq would be no where near even a decent amateur level (Golden Gloves) after a year, let alone a world class professional level, let alone beating one of the most dominant Heavyweights ever, in Wlad Klitschko... lmao. What a dumb thread.

An athlete like LeBron would of had a much better shot if he had took up boxing instead of ball.

ThunderLips
02-13-2015, 01:01 PM
Nikolai Valuez is about 7'0, 310 with a shorter reach and significantly less athleticism.

He has gone 50-2 in his career. Flat out, his size, not his skill makes him unstoppable to a large degree of fighters.

We all know Shaq wouldn't be the best, but he could definitely take on a lot of fighters purely because of his size.

Also, Shaq could very easily get into boxing shape in 12 months. That's a lot of time for anyone, let alone a former pro athlete. It would all come down to his motivation and training intensity imo.

There are some unpredictable, like chin strength, ability to sense movement, etc...but based off his inherent natural athleticism I think it'd be fair to say that he is naturally much more blessed than a Valuev in that regard as well.

For a man his size, it is not as much about boxing skill as it is about being able to get an opponent cornered and just throwing a flurry. His shots would be coming from further away, with more power, and right at head level. His opponent would have a hell of a time trying to get away from those flurries, unskilled as they may be.

Hello, I see you don't know sh*t about boxing.

Carry on.

ace23
02-13-2015, 01:20 PM
Hello, I see you don't know sh*t about boxing.

Carry on.
:oldlol:

iamgine
02-13-2015, 01:33 PM
The problem is OP just assumes everything went perfect.

For example, assuming that Shaq could overcome boxing conditioning issue in 12 months. I don't think even prime Shaq could overcome conditioning issue in just 12 months of training. It is very unlikely to happen. But it could happen of course.

For example, assuming that Shaq would work hard everyday just because he's 'serious'. Shaq was notoriously lazy, there's little reason to believe that his work ethic would be more than average at best. But of course it could happen.

ILLsmak
02-13-2015, 05:51 PM
Maybe if he did it in his prime he could get some wins... not a title tho. He could be a force, but now no... Shaq is shit now. I don't think he could stay on his feet for a legit boxing match.

-Smak

L.Kizzle
02-13-2015, 05:55 PM
:oldlol:
Said it would take Shaq 1 year to get into boxing shape. He couldn't even get into basketball shape. You need to be better conditioned to box than to play ball.

sundizz
02-14-2015, 10:25 AM
Man, have any of you actually even boxed? Innate athletic skill is such a huge factor when it comes to boxing. Shaq now - yeah he's too out of shape (and I take back what I said in my first post). Old is old. Nothing he can do. At his age you don't regain your muscular quickness.

A young Shaq though was devastatingly quick and powerful. Anyone that thinks he couldn't be in "boxing shape" is just out of their minds. In his prime he could of easily dominated a lot of boxers and with training could of contended for a title.

If you took a 21-23 year old Shaq, with his innate physical advantages, and think he couldn't become a champion or contender you don't understand sports. Especially with the current heavyweight division of the past 20 years.

Boxers who started at 18 or older:
Nate Campbell (started at 24)
Rocky Marcianio (first pro fight at 23)
Larry Holmes (started at 19)
Sonny Listen (late, age unknown)
Sergio Martinez (started at 20)
Hasim Rahman (started at 20)
Jameel McCline (in prison)
Antonio Tarver (20's)
Tony Thompson (turned pro at 29)
Kevin Johnson (turned pro at 24)

ThunderLips
02-14-2015, 10:30 AM
Man, have any of you actually even boxed? Innate athletic skill is such a huge factor when it comes to boxing. Shaq now - yeah he's too out of shape (and I take back what I said in my first post). Old is old. Nothing he can do. At his age you don't regain your muscular quickness.

A young Shaq though was devastatingly quick and powerful. Anyone that thinks he couldn't be in "boxing shape" is just out of their minds. In his prime he could of easily dominated a lot of boxers and with training could of contended for a title.

If you took a 21-23 year old Shaq, with his innate physical advantages, and think he couldn't become a champion or contender you don't understand sports. Especially with the current heavyweight division of the past 20 years.

Boxers who started at 18 or older:
Nate Campbell (started at 24)
Rocky Marcianio (first pro fight at 23)
Larry Holmes (started at 19)
Sonny Listen (late, age unknown)
Sergio Martinez (started at 20)
Hasim Rahman (started at 20)
Jameel McCline (in prison)
Antonio Tarver (20's)
Tony Thompson (turned pro at 29)
Kevin Johnson (turned pro at 24)

Hello, I see you completely ignored the thread title and the actual topic of discussion.

I don't think anyone is disputing that if a 19/20 year old Shaq dedicated his life to the sport of boxing, he probably could contend for a title one day no sooner than 6-8 years (let alone one year like the OP was suggesting)

Even with Shaq's physical advantages, boxing is a sport where intangibles play a far bigger factor compared to other sports. Fact is, we don't even know if Shaq can take a decent punch from a Heavyweight. Some guys simply don't have the chin, heart or even the courage it takes to step into a ring and get punched in the face, regardless of any physical gifts.

triangleoffense
02-14-2015, 11:07 AM
Combat sports are not like other sports. Some people just don't like to be hit. Or as Mike Tyson so eloquently put it, "everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth".
I use to be a big boxing fan in the 90s-00s and up to the 10s until Pacquiao got beat 5 times in a row and Mayweather was too ***** to fight someone he could probably beat for 100+mil, so with that said i'll try to take this seriously

shaq's pros:

could prob take a punch
prob has a mean right cross/hook(since he could only go to his right in the paint)

cons:

-would be fighting boxers even in the amateur league that have been boxing their entire life
-too stupid to pick up boxing in 5 years much less 1
-no footwork


could make the list longer but let's not be as much of a dick on dick-***** day.

BurningHammer
02-14-2015, 11:10 AM
We don't want another Bob Sapp.

Oh, maybe casuals do.