Jesus is real like mickey mouse is real

[rlsmooth775]

People believe in a guy who could walk on water. You have to be on crack and ecstasy to believe that BS.

[gigantes]

[QUOTE=rlsmooth775]Jesus is real like mickey mouse is real/QUOTE]
jesus had a few historical confirmations... the mouse is a cartoon chr invented by disney.

[chosen_one6]

jesus had a few historical confirmations... the mouse is a cartoon chr invented by disney.

Yeah he was a real dude but the magic tricks he did weren't.

[bballnoob1192]

there is nothing fake about jesus, but god now that is another story. You don't think there coulda been some crazy guy running around 2000+ years ago spitting nonsense BS to people?

[Swaggin916]

Don't equate crack with believing in Jesus Christ... that's a disservice to crack.

[gigantes]

Yeah he was a real dude but the magic tricks he did weren't.
people seem to need some magic in their lives.

[Dresta]

Thing is, Christianity didn't really develop from Christ's teachings, but was largely concocted by figures like Paul, who at bottom, were great psychologists of human nature, and so were capable of devising a near perfect system of control. Starting with the need for mystery felt by the masses, he looked for a sacrifice, one that would stand up to the images of the mystery cults of the time: God on the cross, the drinking of blood, the mystical sublimity of the sacrifice. The afterlife as resurrection and redemption are tied to this sacrifice, bringing guilt and atonement to the foreground (jesus had to die because man had fallen, man was depraved), and a new cult emerges, a new faith, faith in redemption through faith. He understood what the pagan world needed most, and so plucked and chose from Christ's life so as to change the emphasis, merging the story of Jesus with the Semitic prophecies of the Jews and Platonic utopian ideals (particularly of unity). He took all this, jumbled it together, and boom, Christianity was born.

That is why it appeals to the weak, the feeble, the powerless and disinherited of all places: because it elevates all those qualities that have led to this weakness into the realm of virtue, where it can be lauded over the 'evil' oppressors who lack these virtues and will be punished for their wrongs eventually - it gets its temporal strength from the sheer mass of its accumulated weaknesses, and the ease with which its followers are controlled. Thus Christianity is best understood as a form of mass-egoism and mass-vanity, one that paradoxically is always preaching about humility :lol.

And, as time has progressed, and Christianity infected all parts of Western civilisation, this kind of petty morality became the measure of all things, so much so that non-Christians abide most dogmatically to Christian morality, and find within it causes for human salvation on Earth - redemption without a God! (socialists clearly being the most telling example with their belief that a new gateway to happiness stands open to the poor and lowly, that all that is needed is to free oneself from the institutions, traditions, guardianship of the upper classes: what could be more Christian than that?).

[triangleoffense]

Thing is, Christianity didn't really develop from Christ's teachings, but was largely concocted by figures like Paul, who at bottom, were great psychologists of human nature, and so were capable of devising a near perfect system of control. Starting with the need for mystery felt by the masses, he looked for a sacrifice, one that would stand up to the images of the mystery cults of the time: God on the cross, the drinking of blood, the mystical sublimity of the sacrifice. The afterlife as resurrection and redemption are tied to this sacrifice, bringing guilt and atonement to the foreground (jesus had to die because man had fallen, man was depraved), and a new cult emerges, a new faith, faith in redemption through faith. He understood what the pagan world needed most, and so plucked and chose from Christ's life so as to change the emphasis, merging the story of Jesus with the Semitic prophecies of the Jews and Platonic utopian ideals (particularly of unity). He took all this, jumbled it together, and boom, Christianity was born.

That is why it appeals to the weak, the feeble, the powerless and disinherited of all places: because it elevates all those qualities that have led to this weakness into the realm of virtue, where it can be lauded over the 'evil' oppressors who lack these virtues and will be punished for their wrongs eventually - it gets its temporal strength from the sheer mass of its accumulated weaknesses, and the ease with which its followers are controlled. Thus Christianity is best understood as a form of mass-egoism and mass-vanity, one that paradoxically is always preaching about humility :lol.

And, as time has progressed, and Christianity infected all parts of Western civilisation, this kind of petty morality became the measure of all things, so much so that non-Christians abide most dogmatically to Christian morality, and find within it causes for human salvation on Earth - redemption without a God! (socialists clearly being the most telling example with their belief that a new gateway to happiness stands open to the poor and lowly, that all that is needed is to free oneself from the institutions, traditions, guardianship of the upper classes: what could be more Christian than that?).

dude i'm into reading as much as the next person but... wut?

anyways it's pretty obvious ISH as well as the US is divided into two categories, people that actually read an entire book outside of the bible and those that don't.

[Dresta]

dude i'm into reading as much as the next person but... wut?

anyways it's pretty obvious ISH as well as the US is divided into two categories, people that actually read an entire book outside of the bible and those that don't.
I fit the history of Christianity into 3 paragraphs for you, explaining its origins, what made it so successful, and how it perpetuates itself even now. That's succinctness for you, that's pungency; you should be grateful.

[triangleoffense]

seriously not even trolling... even the atheists on the off-topic forums on this site.. wow

[~primetime~]

Micky Mouse deniers are so lame...

[Nowitness]

Thing is, Christianity didn't really develop from Christ's teachings, but was largely concocted by figures like Paul, who at bottom, were great psychologists of human nature, and so were capable of devising a near perfect system of control. Starting with the need for mystery felt by the masses, he looked for a sacrifice, one that would stand up to the images of the mystery cults of the time: God on the cross, the drinking of blood, the mystical sublimity of the sacrifice. The afterlife as resurrection and redemption are tied to this sacrifice, bringing guilt and atonement to the foreground (jesus had to die because man had fallen, man was depraved), and a new cult emerges, a new faith, faith in redemption through faith. He understood what the pagan world needed most, and so plucked and chose from Christ's life so as to change the emphasis, merging the story of Jesus with the Semitic prophecies of the Jews and Platonic utopian ideals (particularly of unity). He took all this, jumbled it together, and boom, Christianity was born.

That is why it appeals to the weak, the feeble, the powerless and disinherited of all places: because it elevates all those qualities that have led to this weakness into the realm of virtue, where it can be lauded over the 'evil' oppressors who lack these virtues and will be punished for their wrongs eventually - it gets its temporal strength from the sheer mass of its accumulated weaknesses, and the ease with which its followers are controlled. Thus Christianity is best understood as a form of mass-egoism and mass-vanity, one that paradoxically is always preaching about humility :lol.

And, as time has progressed, and Christianity infected all parts of Western civilisation, this kind of petty morality became the measure of all things, so much so that non-Christians abide most dogmatically to Christian morality, and find within it causes for human salvation on Earth - redemption without a God! (socialists clearly being the most telling example with their belief that a new gateway to happiness stands open to the poor and lowly, that all that is needed is to free oneself from the institutions, traditions, guardianship of the upper classes: what could be more Christian than that?).

I always thought it was developed from the slaves of the Roman Empire who envied the uppers of society but knew they could never obtain it so chose to lament all that the rich had and revere all what they had (nothing) as being pure and holy.

Lol religion.

[gigantes]

seriously not even trolling... even the atheists on the off-topic forums on this site.. wow
not so much an atheism thing as a... well.

[Megabox!]

:rolleyes:

[Demon Lizard]

Micky Mouse deniers are so lame...

If Mickey is Jesus, does that make Walt Disney God?

[Patrick Chewing]

Blasphemers all of you!

[Bandito]

If Mickey is Jesus, does that make Walt Disney God?
He is the creator so yes I guess.