Lavine's dunks were better than anything MJ, Nique, or Erving have ever done

[Ariza4three]

And that's a ****ing fact, so I don't want to hear any bullshit about that.

[SHAQisGOAT]

I'll just quote what I've said on that other thread:


:rolleyes:

Dunk contest started in the NBA when Jordan came into the league... Showboating, flashy dunking and so on, wasn't nearly as big as nowadays, not even close.
Dunking was used more as a way to put the ball in the hoop than anything else, as opposed to nowadays when you got kids practicing all of that stuff since early on, fantasizing about being in the contest, young players practicing dunking more than fundamentals - you can even say Jordan contributed to it.

Overall, Jordan was a better athlete than Lavine and Zach can't dunk on games (on people) like MJ did... Plus, as players, Lavine won't ever even be close to what Michael was.

You have Michael practicing his dunking and whatnot, the same way he practiced his fundamentals since an early age, getting in dunk contests since even before the NBA, really preparing and putting in effort before the contest... and he would've beaten someone like Lavine in a dunk contest.
Not to mention all the dunks that've been done, all the shit you can easily see up on youtube and whatnot, very different from what you had back in the day.

With that said, Lavine had one of the best performances in a dunk contest ever (could've been better at the end though) but you gotta put those things into context, can't be talking shit like that :facepalm

Dudes like MJ, Erving, Nique or Carter would absolutely shit on Lavine in a NBA game, would dunk on his face or on his teammates more than the other way around... I can also spill that out, makes more sense to say than everything you've just said...

****in dumb kids :facepalm Always spilling some ignorant shit, trying to troll and spark some controversy :rolleyes:
I'm tellin you, never seen a worthwhile post from this dude, I believe :lol

[sportjames23]

And that's a ****ing fact, so I don't want to hear any bullshit about that.


And you still like watching hentai.

Shut up, **** boy.

[Ariza4three]

Blah blah blah. Not reading that bullshit. Sorry gramps, Lavine >>> MJ

[sportjames23]

You don't deny your love of hentai?

[You Cant Ban Me]

And that's a ****ing fact, so I don't want to hear any bullshit about that.
tl:dr

[Ariza4three]

You don't deny your love of hentai?
You probably just finished watching trap hentai

[Milbuck]

I'll just quote what I've said on that other thread:



****in dumb kids :facepalm Always spilling some ignorant shit, trying to troll and spark some controversy :rolleyes:
I'm tellin you, never seen a worthwhile post from this dude, I believe :lol

I'm not trying to disrespect MJ, Nique, Doc, and the dunking greats because they clearly helped elevate it to new levels, but what is your quote even supposed to say? All I'm reading are the most obvious facts possible, that Lavine is nowhere near Jordan, Dr J, etc as an actual basketball player, and that he's not the in-game dunker they were. We all know this.

But please address the dunk contest. Would Lavine not steal the show if he was in a dunk contest with the guys mentioned? I keep bringing it up because I have to, but if Lavine did the FT line windmill, what could anyone else possibly do? Or forget that even, if Lavine did one of his first two dunks last night..what is the response? We talk about time and context, but please look at it objectively.

[Soundwave]

That's just the evolution of the dunk contest, in 5-10 years someone will top Lavine.

I still think Vince is tops though. LaVine had some crazy dunks but didn't bring the power that Vince did.

[Ariza4three]

I'm not trying to disrespect MJ, Nique, Doc, and the dunking greats because they clearly helped elevate it to new levels, but what is your quote even supposed to say? All I'm reading are the most obvious facts possible, that Lavine is nowhere near Jordan, Dr J, etc as an actual basketball player, and that he's not the in-game dunker they were. We all know this.

But please address the dunk contest. Would Lavine not steal the show if he was in a dunk contest with the guys mentioned? I keep bringing it up because I have to, but if Lavine did the FT line windmill, what could anyone else possibly do? Or forget that even, if Lavine did one of his first two dunks last night..what is the response?
These geezers don't have shit to say. They are just mad that LaVine is the better dunker.

[MiseryCityTexas]

David Thompson's one of the most underrated dunkers in NBA history. He did the 360 slam before anybody else in a dunk contest.

[sportjames23]

You probably just finished watching trap hentai


I don't even know what the hell that is. And I don't want to, you freak. :mad:

[Bless Mathews]

That's just the evolution of the dunk contest, in 5-10 years someone will top Lavine.

I still think Vince is tops though. LaVine had some crazy dunks but didn't bring the power that Vince did.
Power???

Bruh. Did you watch last night?


All his dunks he threw it down hOArd

[L.Kizzle]

He's not even Terrance Stansbury.

[Soundwave]

Power???

Bruh. Did you watch last night?


All his dunks he threw it down hOArd

Vince and Nique have more power, then again LaVine is super skinny so that probably has a lot to do with it.

[CavaliersFTW]

Don't you have some tenetacle rape hentai to get back to with your waifu? It's valentines weekend, she's waitn for u jam.

[Bless Mathews]

Vince and Nique have more power, then again LaVine is super skinny so that probably has a lot to do with it.

Great

He still threw all those dunks down with POWER.

[qrich]

Stan Fletcher >>> LaVine.


Norman Powell >>> LaVine.


MJ, Nique, Erving >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LaVine

[Milbuck]

Great

He still threw all those dunks down with POWER.
Yup. And it's not all about power anyways. The thing that really got me out of my seat was how ****ing effortless it all was to him. Dude threw down the most beautiful behind the back I've ever seen, pretty much flawless, and he looked like he wasn't even trying. This is why I think he's gonna go down as the GOAT contest dunker, as filthy as his performance was he's got more to show. I don't think we're appreciating how sick it is for him to be doing this at 19 years old.

[SHAQisGOAT]

I'm not trying to disrespect MJ, Nique, Doc, and the dunking greats because they clearly helped elevate it to new levels, but what is your quote even supposed to say? All I'm reading are the most obvious facts possible, that Lavine is nowhere near Jordan, Dr J, etc as an actual basketball player, and that he's not the in-game dunker they were. We all know this.

But please address the dunk contest. Would Lavine not steal the show if he was in a dunk contest with the guys mentioned? I keep bringing it up because I have to, but if Lavine did the FT line windmill, what could anyone else possibly do? Or forget that even, if Lavine did one of his first two dunks last night..what is the response? We talk about time and context, but please look at it objectively.


Again:

Dunk contest started in the NBA when Jordan came into the league... Showboating, flashy dunking and so on, wasn't nearly as big as nowadays, not even close.
Dunking was used more as a way to put the ball in the hoop than anything else, as opposed to nowadays when you got kids practicing all of that stuff since early on, fantasizing about being in the contest, young players practicing dunking more than fundamentals - you can even say Jordan contributed to it.

Overall, Jordan was a better athlete than Lavine and Zach can't dunk on games (on people) like MJ did... Plus, as players, Lavine won't ever even be close to what Michael was.

You have Michael practicing his dunking and whatnot, the same way he practiced his fundamentals since an early age, getting in dunk contests since even before the NBA, really preparing and putting in effort before the contest... and he would've beaten someone like Lavine in a dunk contest.
Not to mention all the dunks that've been done, all the shit you can easily see up on youtube and whatnot, very different from what you had back in the day.

With that said, Lavine had one of the best performances in a dunk contest ever (could've been better at the end though) but you gotta put those things into context, can't be talking shit like that :facepalm

^If you can't "understand" that, there's nothing I can do... Stop with all the ignorant talk, please :facepalm Not even talking about them as players there.

Judge them in a vacuum? You NEVER do that when judging players across eras, yet let's do it when it comes to the dunk contest, huh? Why not call Mikan a top15 player, then?
Judging them in a vacuum - in the dunk contests - we're mostly paying attention to scores/points and who won the most, they never competed against one another...

And, let me get this straight, they were better in-game dunkers because they were better players? Okay then :rolleyes:

[chocolatethunder]

Of course Lavine would kill those guys in a dunk contest because he grew up watching them. It's called evolution. Jordan grew up watching Doc and VC grew up watching Jordan. It doesn't make anyone better it's just how things evolve. If any of the great Dunkers from the past were born when Lavine was born they would be doing totally insane stuff now. It's just like shooting threes. Bird was a tremendous shooter but the 3pt shit was a novelty then. Now it is a specialty. And of the great shooters in history would all have been much better three point shooters for their career if the three point shot was the priority it is today. There's nothing to be mad about or anything.

[Bless Mathews]

Of course Lavine would kill those guys in a dunk contest because he grew up watching them. It's called evolution. Jordan grew up watching Doc and VC grew up watching Jordan. It doesn't make anyone better it's just how things evolve. If any of the great Dunkers from the past were born when Lavine was born they would be doing totally insane stuff now. It's just like shooting threes. Bird was a tremendous shooter but the 3pt shit was a novelty then. Now it is a specialty. And of the great shooters in history would all have been much better three point shooters for their career if the three point shot was the priority it is today. There's nothing to be mad about or anything.

Of course it's evolution. And I'm not typin lavine is a better dunker than Vc or mj, but by that theory, EVERYONE today would be doing what lavine did.

And NO ONE is. With that much fOnk, ease, and power.

[TheMan]

In game dunks >>>>> dunk contest. I didn't even watch nor do I care to do so.

There are dudes on YouTube throwing down some insane dunks but would love to see them going through traffic and slamming one on a 7fter. Lavine is a nice contest dunker though.

[sportjames23]

In game dunks >>>>> dunk contest. I didn't even watch nor do I care to do so.

There are dudes on YouTube throwing down some insane dunks but would love to see them going through traffic and slamming one on a 7fter. Lavine is a nice contest dunker though.


This.

[bizil]

The Mount Rushmore of dunking to me is Doc, Nique, MJ, and Vince. They were all great players in general for starters. But most importantly, they had the EPIC combination of great dunks in a game AND the legendary dunk contest shit too. Lavine's in game dunk catalog has to really step up for me to consider him on the level of the legends I mentioned.

If we are talking strictly dunk contest then sure he can beat anybody. Dude is a freak no doubt about it! I just wanna see his in game dunk catalog (which NEEDS to involve dunking on players in traffic) pick up.

[MiseryCityTexas]

Of course Lavine would kill those guys in a dunk contest because he grew up watching them. It's called evolution. Jordan grew up watching Doc and VC grew up watching Jordan. It doesn't make anyone better it's just how things evolve. If any of the great Dunkers from the past were born when Lavine was born they would be doing totally insane stuff now. It's just like shooting threes. Bird was a tremendous shooter but the 3pt shit was a novelty then. Now it is a specialty. And of the great shooters in history would all have been much better three point shooters for their career if the three point shot was the priority it is today. There's nothing to be mad about or anything.


Lavine's dunks were the truth, but I rarely ever seen Lavine dunk on anybody this season the way Jordan, Doc, and Nique has put on posters. Jordan and Nique's dunk contest battles were some of the greatest dunks in basketball history.

[Ariza4three]

Lavine's dunks were the truth, but I rarely ever seen Lavine dunk on anybody this season the way Jordan, Doc, and Nique has put on posters. Jordan and Nique's dunk contest battles were some of the greatest dunks in basketball history.
No shit. He's a 19 year old rookie

[chocolatethunder]

Lavine's dunks were the truth, but I rarely ever seen Lavine dunk on anybody this season the way Jordan, Doc, and Nique has put on posters. Jordan and Nique's dunk contest battles were some of the greatest dunks in basketball history.
As far as I'm concerned the dunk contest and all the "contests" are stupid. I wanna see the shit in a game. When Lavine puts his nuts in someone's faces like KJ or MJ or Nique or Kemp or VC, he's just gonna be some dude who does great dunks in dunk contests. That being said, I really like Lavine and think he has a ton of potential. It's up to him to realize that potential.

[SugarHill]

No shit. He's a 19 year old rookie
They weren't even in the NBA at 19 and yet people are talking about career dunk accomplishments :kobe:

[Milbuck]

No shit. He's a 19 year old rookie
From what I'm reading here, apparently Lavine isn't as good as prime Jordan. I had no idea. Feels like Lavine's been tearing up the league for decades now.

[MiseryCityTexas]

No shit. He's a 19 year old rookie

Vince Carter posterized Chris Mullin when he was a rookie, and Iverson crossed over Jordan when he was a rookie so that's a bad excuse.

[SugarHill]

Vince Carter posterized Chris Mullin when he was a rookie so that's a bad excuse.

Vince was 22 as a rookie and the season is halfway through

[Ariza4three]

Vince Carter posterized Chris Mullin when he was a rookie, and Iverson crossed over Jordan when he was a rookie so that's a bad excuse.
Now tell me how old Vince was his rookie year. Go ahead.

[MiseryCityTexas]

An Nba rookie is still an NBA rookie regardless of age.

[TheMan]

They weren't even in the NBA at 19 and yet people are talking about career dunk accomplishments :kobe:
So who's the sour pussed ho in your avi?

[bizil]

What separated guys like Doc, Nique, and MJ from the other great scorers was the fact that they could go over the top of defense and DOMINATE! The heat they could put on a defense AND deflate a team's confidence was special.

So even if your defense is designed to keep them out of the lane, THEY COULD STILL go over the top and dominate. Plus they were skilled in other areas of scoring, so they were gonna get their points no matter what. So ya Lavine is the better dunk contest dunker. But OVERALL, he ain't close to guys like Doc, Nique, MJ, Vince, Thompson, T Mac, etc. UNTIL a defense is totally scared of u, u can't really compare to those kind of guys.

[MiseryCityTexas]

What separated guys like Doc, Nique, and MJ from the other great scorers was the fact that they could go over the top of defense and DOMINATE! The heat they could put on a defense AND deflate a team's confidence was special.

So even if your defense is designed to keep them out of the lane, THEY COULD STILL go over the top and dominate. Plus they were skilled in other areas of scoring, so they were gonna get their points no matter what. So ya Lavine is the better dunk contest dunker. But OVERALL, he ain't close to guys like Doc, Nique, MJ, Vince, Thompson, T Mac, etc. UNTIL a defense is totally scared of u, u can't really compare to those kind of guys.


I don't even think Lavine is a better dunker than Jordan. Jordan did a lot more than just go between the legs three or four times. Lavine's a nice dunker, but he's not ****ing with Jordan at all. Jordan did the free throw line dunk, Jordan did the reverse sideways leaning shit, and Jordan even did a 360 in the dunk contest that people seems not to want to talk about. All time though Vince is better than all hands down. Lavine's dunks were impressive, but I'm not even sure if he's a better dunker than prime Jason Richardson.

[Milbuck]

I don't even think Lavine is a better dunker than Jordan. Jordan did a lot more than just go between the legs three or four times. Lavine's a nice dunker, but he's not ****ing with Jordan at all. Jordan did the free throw line dunk, Jordan did the reverse sideways leaning shit, and Jordan even did a 360 in the dunk contest that people seems not to want to talk about. All time though Vince is better than all hands down.
Lavine can windmill from the FT line. Lmao at "he's not ****ing with Jordan at all" and mentioning a FT line dunk and a 360 as if Lavine wouldn't make that stuff look pedestrian.

Dude clearly saved his best stuff. He didn't even go all out and he's still drawing comparisons to some of the greatest dunkers of all time.

[SugarHill]

I don't even think Lavine is a better dunker than Jordan. Jordan did a lot more than just go between the legs three or four times. Lavine's a nice dunker, but he's not ****ing with Jordan at all. Jordan did the free throw line dunk, Jordan did the reverse sideways leaning shit, and Jordan even did a 360 in the dunk contest that people seems not to want to talk about. All time though Vince is better than all hands down. Lavine's dunks were impressive, but I'm not even sure if he's a better dunker than prime Jason Richardson.


Lavine does windmills from the line like James White

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRsnAKst5fM

self alley 360

why are you mentioning these dunks like they're not easily done by this guy? :biggums:

I agree that his dunks could have used more variety though. One between the legs is enough but he did 3 variations.

[MiseryCityTexas]

Lavine does windmills from the line like James White

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRsnAKst5fM

self alley 360

why are you mentioning these dunks like they're not easily done by this guy? :biggums:

I agree that his dunks could have used more variety though. One between the legs is enough but he did 3 variations.

Damn that 360 by Lavine was the truth I gotta admit.

[KyrieTheFuture]

Milbuck you know you're wrong when Jameer is on your side

[DonDadda59]

Lavine's dunks were FILTHY, especially the behind the back shit... but he got a bit repetitive with the through the legs dunk over and over. Lacked some creativity and variety of past great dunkers. I hope he comes back and does it again and shows some versatility.

[tmacattack33]

Yes I would agree.

And if those Sprite professional dunkers (Air up there and stuff) got in the dunk contest, they would be better too.

And Lavine is pretty much a professional dunker....we've all been sitting here waiting for him to get in the league for a year or two already just to see him in the dunk contest.

For an actual good nba player though, MJ and them were still GOAT dunkers, and it makes for a much better story when the super-dunker is actually good enough to play in meaningful nba games.

[deja vu]

Dunk contests don't win titles or get you to the HOF.

Years from now LaVine will be an afterthought if he doesn't drastically improve his game.

While MJ, Nique, Dr. J remain as legends.

[SpaceJammeR]

who the **** cares lol. lavine will never sniff being a better basketball player.

[KungFuJoe]

Lavine is an elite dunker, but does anyone think guys like MJ and Nique couldn't pull off that stuff back in the day if it was known?

That windmill free throw dunk was nice as hell, but he was about a foot...maybe more...in front of the line.

I mentioned this in another post, but MJ didn't even train or prep for dunk contests. He just showed up and made shit up on the fly. These guys nowadays prep and train for this like they do dribbling and shooting drills.

Don't get me wrong. Today's dunks > yesterday's dunks in terms of skill level. But that's because more people are training for this stuff. With youtube, all the kids see the latest dunks and they try to emulate them. Back then, you only saw these dunks during contests.

[Demon Lizard]

You probably just finished watching trap hentai

How do you think criticizing others using your disturbing knowledge of hentai makes THEM look bad?

[inclinerator]

Lavine is an elite dunker, but does anyone think guys like MJ and Nique couldn't pull off that stuff back in the day if it was known?

That windmill free throw dunk was nice as hell, but he was about a foot...maybe more...in front of the line.

I mentioned this in another post, but MJ didn't even train or prep for dunk contests. He just showed up and made shit up on the fly. These guys nowadays prep and train for this like they do dribbling and shooting drills.

Don't get me wrong. Today's dunks > yesterday's dunks in terms of skill level. But that's because more people are training for this stuff. With youtube, all the kids see the latest dunks and they try to emulate them. Back then, you only saw these dunks during contests.
they cant, lavine is on another level, lebron cant do those dunks

[G-train]

who cares, there is guys on the street that can dunk better than MJ.

[KingBeasley08]

agreed. Jordan stans are insecure as hell. no one's saying he's a better player than the man but that his dunks were nicer

[arkain]

VC still the best imo. Lavine could have came close but his final round was a bit anti-climactic. Plus 3 of 4 dunks were just variations of between the legs off 1 leg.

[dreamwarrior]

MJ is the greatest posterizer ever. I've yet to see Lavine posterize anyone, but I suppose it'll happen one day, maybe against a broken down Dwight Howard when he comes back

[andgar923]

NEVER!

J/k

His dunks were great, and some were better than some of MJ's not gonna front.

But the biggest difference and one thing that was irking me was today's dunker's inability to dunk with the ball in their hands. Almost all of their dunks came off bounces.

And naturally creativity will evolve.

Even tho Lavine mos def can jump high and had some dunks nicer than what MJ did, Mj still has some dunks on him that nobody in that dunk contest did, and perhaps aren't capable of doing.

The Space Jam dunk (dunk no.1 by Lavine) is a dunk that MJ did with the ball, took off from further distance and still jumped high enough to duck his head and put his arm through the rim. Again, WITH THE BALL IN HAND.

MJ also did his dunks while 'dribbling' the ball, something many dunkers couldn't do. Most dunkers run with the ball or in last night's case, toss it up and then jump to dunk which honestly facilitates the dunk itself.

Oh well... big props to Lavine, and yeah some of his dunks were better... but not all.

[AlphaWolf24]

It was 30 f'ing years ago....

MJ did the tired azz FT line dunk 2 times in 1 dunk contest FFS...

at the time it was a special dunk....but again it was 30 years ago..

I would expect dunkers to evolve and dunks get better.

30 years from now kids will all be doing 720's or 1080's.....dunking with their feet etc..etc...

[allball]

in game...

[dunksby]

Vince Carter in-game dunk:

http://i.minus.com/i9eNa236FUGZM.gif

Jordan in-game dunk:

https://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/jordan2.gif

Lavine in-game dunk:

http://giant.gfycat.com/FarBeneficialEstuarinecrocodile.gif

[AirFederer]

Pretty much this. Nice performance!
Now go make some posters, please :)


NEVER!

J/k

His dunks were great, and some were better than some of MJ's not gonna front.

But the biggest difference and one thing that was irking me was today's dunker's inability to dunk with the ball in their hands. Almost all of their dunks came off bounces.

And naturally creativity will evolve.

Even tho Lavine mos def can jump high and had some dunks nicer than what MJ did, Mj still has some dunks on him that nobody in that dunk contest did, and perhaps aren't capable of doing.

The Space Jam dunk (dunk no.1 by Lavine) is a dunk that MJ did with the ball, took off from further distance and still jumped high enough to duck his head and put his arm through the rim. Again, WITH THE BALL IN HAND.

MJ also did his dunks while 'dribbling' the ball, something many dunkers couldn't do. Most dunkers run with the ball or in last night's case, toss it up and then jump to dunk which honestly facilitates the dunk itself.

Oh well... big props to Lavine, and yeah some of his dunks were better... but not all.

[Sarcastic]

http://41.media.tumblr.com/97d5d639454c83cbf3abbe4b9529e3e3/tumblr_njsqnkcUhO1r3b473o1_1280.jpg