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TonyMontana
02-16-2015, 12:40 AM
Lol @ people saying this guy "doesn't look" like an all-star. He was the second best player out there on the court after LBJ.

A perfect fit for ANY team. Lets go to Wade for example. I don't believe there is a single team in the NBA that would take Wade on their team over Korver.

The best shooter of all-time.

Just because a guys game isn't holding the ball and creating for himself doesn't mean he isn't a great player.

SugarHill
02-16-2015, 12:40 AM
Are you kidding? LMAO

J Shuttlesworth
02-16-2015, 12:40 AM
Korver should have been out there for the last 8 minutes or so

Hotlantadude81
02-16-2015, 12:41 AM
Korver should have been out there for the last 8 minutes or so

Playing Mello twice as many minutes was surely a great choice.

plowking
02-16-2015, 12:41 AM
Shut up.

Coming from a lifelong Hawks fan.

J Shuttlesworth
02-16-2015, 12:42 AM
Playing Mello twice as many minutes was surely a great choice.
:roll: true, but they couldn't just leave him out since it's in his home town. 6-20 in the ASG though :biggums:

Hotlantadude81
02-16-2015, 12:43 AM
:roll: true, but they couldn't just leave him out since it's in his home town. 6-20 in the ASG though :biggums:

Who cares? NY sucks anyway. It's not like they don;t get enough attention anyway.

plowking
02-16-2015, 12:43 AM
:roll: true, but they couldn't just leave him out since it's in his home town. 6-20 in the ASG though :biggums:

Refs didn't give him any calls at the ring! He was getting fouled all game!

/Knicks fans.

TonyMontana
02-16-2015, 12:44 AM
Playing Mello twice as many minutes was surely a great choice.

I can't believe a Knick actually made the all-star game.

Lowry was also a joke. This guy just took threes all game and missed every single time. yet he was almost always on the court.

How Korver wasn't able to get these bums minutes was astounding. I reckon the Hawks coach didn't want to use his own guys.

Milbuck
02-16-2015, 12:44 AM
Just because a guys game isn't holding the ball and creating for himself doesn't mean he isn't a great player.
Yes it actually does. Not being able to create for yourself consistently is a legitimate weakness. It doesn't make him a scrub but it is a clear flaw.

Dude is an elite shooter in a game that played zero defense for the majority of the time and chucked up over 130 3s. No shit a dude like Korver is gonna go off.

TonyMontana
02-16-2015, 12:47 AM
Yes it actually does. Not being able to create for yourself consistently is a legitimate weakness. It doesn't make him a scrub but it does make him a flawed player.

Dude is an elite shooter in a game that played zero defense for the majority of the time and chucked up over a 130 3s. No shit a dude like Korver is gonna go off.

Wrong.

If your strength is creating for yourself, that means you are only helping the team when you have the ball.

If your strength is shooting,(granted Korver is phenomenal at it, probably the best in basketball history actually) he helps the team just by being out there and standing at that line. He doesn't need to hog the ball to impact the game.

A guy like Evan Turner would probably destroy Korver in a game of 1 on 1. Yet Evan Turner is a scrub and Korver an all-star.

This is a team sport. Not an individual sport. Korver is one of the best players in the league.

SugarHill
02-16-2015, 12:48 AM
Wrong.

If your strength is creating for yourself, that means you are only helping the team when you have the ball.

If your strength is shooting,(granted Korver is phenomenal at it, probably the best in basketball history actually) he helps the team just by being out there and standing at that line. He doesn't need to hog the ball to impact the game.

A guy like Evan Turner would probably destroy Korver in a game of 1 on 1. Yet Evan Turner is a scrub and Korver an all-star.

This is a team sport. Not an individual sport. Korver is one of the best players in the league.

Listen, point blank, if you think Korver is a better or more valuable player than Lowry or any other all-star you saw today, you are a deluded person.

Young X
02-16-2015, 12:50 AM
Yes it actually does. Not being able to create for yourself consistently is a legitimate weakness. It doesn't make him a scrub but it is a clear flaw.It's a weakness, but with how ridiculously good and impactful he is in his role he can help certain teams more than some creators. I didn't have a problem with him being in the game. :confusedshrug:

Lebron23
02-16-2015, 07:08 AM
He scored 21 points in 16 minutes. Melo was 6/20 from the field.

Sakkreth
02-16-2015, 07:16 AM
Who cares, it wasn't basketball.

L.A. Jazz
02-16-2015, 08:14 AM
Its the ASG. Has nothing to do with being good at basketball.

sportjames23
02-16-2015, 08:23 AM
Shut up.

Coming from a lifelong Hawks fan.


:oldlol:

PJR
02-16-2015, 08:27 AM
Op as usual an idiot.

AirFederer
02-16-2015, 08:38 AM
Yes it actually does. Not being able to create for yourself consistently is a legitimate weakness. It doesn't make him a scrub but it is a clear flaw.

Dude is an elite shooter in a game that played zero defense for the majority of the time and chucked up over 130 3s. No shit a dude like Korver is gonna go off.

Fail :facepalm

Why should he create for himself? Is that bball in it's highest form? No!
He's damn good at what he does, arguably the best. Should other all stars, like the big guys, be critisized for not being his equal in 3p shooting? Or for not being guard-good with the ball?
Please.

Bandito
02-16-2015, 09:20 AM
Wrong.

If your strength is creating for yourself, that means you are only helping the team when you have the ball.

If your strength is shooting,(granted Korver is phenomenal at it, probably the best in basketball history actually) he helps the team just by being out there and standing at that line. He doesn't need to hog the ball to impact the game.

A guy like Evan Turner would probably destroy Korver in a game of 1 on 1. Yet Evan Turner is a scrub and Korver an all-star.

This is a team sport. Not an individual sport. Korver is one of the best players in the league.:biggums: :biggums: :biggums:

Did anybody catch this? uh Ray Allen and Reggie say hi!

Dragic4Life
02-16-2015, 09:45 AM
Agreed. Lebron and him were carrying the team.

Another year, another burden squad costing Lebron an All-Star win.

Kblaze8855
02-16-2015, 09:49 AM
One of the best pure shooters of all time in a game played with no defense and nobody so much as closing out on the 3 point line....with the most 3s ever taken in that game...with 4 stars on the court with you at all times...in a game noted for overpassing and guys looking for a nice no look pass..and you actually move off the ball and get open unlike most of the players who are standing around chilling?

Yea...you should expect that guy to put up points.

Richesly
02-16-2015, 10:27 AM
One of the best pure shooters of all time in a game played with no defense and nobody so much as closing out on the 3 point line....with the most 3s ever taken in that game...with 4 stars on the court with you at all times...in a game noted for overpassing and guys looking for a nice no look pass..and you actually move off the ball and get open unlike most of the players who are standing around chilling?

Yea...you should expect that guy to put up points.

Tbh, he would of had more but was actually off on his shot during the game. He missed his first 2 shots.

Richesly
02-16-2015, 10:28 AM
One of the best pure shooters of all time in a game played with no defense and nobody so much as closing out on the 3 point line....with the most 3s ever taken in that game...with 4 stars on the court with you at all times...in a game noted for overpassing and guys looking for a nice no look pass..and you actually move off the ball and get open unlike most of the players who are standing around chilling?

Yea...you should expect that guy to put up points.

Also, you can say the same for Carmelo... who only shot 6-20 from the field and 1-15 from the field.

Can say the same for Lowry, who shot 4-13 from the field, and 2-13 from 3.


Love how you always try to take away from what the Hawks or a Hawk do.

beastee
02-16-2015, 10:34 AM
If you are statistically the best shooter in the world and playing in an exhibition game where NO ONE even trys to defend...yeah you should look great.

How good did he look in the one thing that mattered for him...the 3pt contest? :lol

Kblaze8855
02-16-2015, 10:35 AM
I dont believe I could say either of them is one of the best pure shooters of all time.

Seems you could have tried to make that point with Klay Thompson.

Anyway....I will buy you lunch if you find evidence of my having seriously hated on any Hawk player....ever...other than Joe Johnson.

Off the top of my head...hes the only Hawk that ever really annoyed me.

Mildly related....Joe Johnson once hit on a friend of mines fianc

atljonesbro
02-16-2015, 10:36 AM
If you are statistically the best shooter in the world and playing in an exhibition game where NO ONE even trys to defend...yeah you should look great.

How good did he look in the one thing that mattered for him...the 3pt contest? :lol
Yeah he looked a lot better vs the Bulls.

Kblaze8855
02-16-2015, 10:36 AM
Now that I think about it I wrote a long hateful thing about Josh Smith but that was because he put down that tape like 2 feet behind the FT line at the dunk contest...then didnt take off from it. I was outraged. Why did he put it there to begin with....

Richesly
02-16-2015, 10:41 AM
Now that I think about it I wrote a long hateful thing about Josh Smith but that was because he put down that tape like 2 feet behind the FT line at the dunk contest...then didnt take off from it. I was outaged. Why did he put it there to begin with....

LOL, I remember that. Josh was the best in that contest. You can tell he is NOWHERE as athletic as he is now then he use to be.

And isn't half the player he was in 2009 because of it.

beastee
02-16-2015, 10:41 AM
Yeah he looked a lot better vs the Bulls.
:cheers: touche. Can't wait for our round 2 playoff matchup.

Kblaze8855
02-16-2015, 10:45 AM
LOL, I remember that. Josh was the best in that contest. You can tell he is NOWHERE as athletic as he is now then he use to be.

And isn't half the player he was in 2009 because of it.

I remember Kenny Smith going "If he dunks from there im leaving the building....." and me and my friends were all on our feet arguing...

I was of the opinion that...he wouldnt try it for the first time at the contest. That he had to do it in practice...

I was me and 3-4 others...just a storm of arguing about if this was possible.

And this scumbag runs right by the tape and takes off at the FT line...and the whole world asks "What the ****? Why did he get our hopes up like that?".

Whatever was left of my childhood died when Josh Smith screwed the entire NBA universe over with that dunk.

ArbitraryWater
02-16-2015, 02:10 PM
He was.. anyone denying it is dumb.

Hell, besides Irving it seemed like everyone was trash outside of those?

HurricaneKid
02-16-2015, 02:32 PM
Yes it actually does. Not being able to create for yourself consistently is a legitimate weakness. It doesn't make him a scrub but it is a clear flaw.

Dude is an elite shooter in a game that played zero defense for the majority of the time and chucked up over 130 3s. No shit a dude like Korver is gonna go off.


On a REAL basketball team there are one, MAYBE two, players on the floor that can create and break down a defense with the ball. There are three, and increasingly FOUR (and a handful of teams with FIVE) players on the floor that can shoot the 3.

Why on earth would we want both all star teams full of the on ball high usage specialists? Since shooting has become as important as anything in the game why not have an all time great shooter? Its time we recognize how different the game has become and to reward the players that impact the game without the ball, as there are a lot more of those guys in the NBA and they are the ones deciding championships.

kshutts1
02-16-2015, 03:03 PM
Listen, point blank, if you think Korver is a better or more valuable player than Lowry or any other all-star you saw today, you are a deluded person.
Value is dependent upon circumstances.

Some teams, like the Cavs, could certainly use Korver much more than Wade.

Better is a lot less dependent, and I agree that Korver is not as good as Wade.

tpols
02-16-2015, 03:37 PM
[QUOTE=Kblaze8855]I dont believe I could say either of them is one of the best pure shooters of all time.

Seems you could have tried to make that point with Klay Thompson.

Anyway....I will buy you lunch if you find evidence of my having seriously hated on any Hawk player....ever...other than Joe Johnson.

Off the top of my head...hes the only Hawk that ever really annoyed me.

Mildly related....Joe Johnson once hit on a friend of mines fianc

SpaceJammeR
02-16-2015, 04:29 PM
who the f cares they weren't even trying.

Kblaze8855
02-16-2015, 05:21 PM
Appears so. 6'8'' guy in a new Aston Martin in a city with a basketball team...downtown near the arena at that...seems kinda obvious. But I suppose its good she wasnt just down for whatever because he had a nice car.

LoneyROY7
02-16-2015, 05:23 PM
Lol @ people saying this guy "doesn't look" like an all-star. He was the second best player out there on the court after LBJ.

A perfect fit for ANY team. Lets go to Wade for example. I don't believe there is a single team in the NBA that would take Wade on their team over Korver.

The best shooter of all-time.

Just because a guys game isn't holding the ball and creating for himself doesn't mean he isn't a great player.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Demon Lizard
02-16-2015, 05:24 PM
Hitting your open 3s certainly makes you a good player, but he didn't show enough versatility in that game to make such a statement, especially considering there is no D played in all-star games anyway.

DonDadda59
02-16-2015, 05:26 PM
It was an all star game where no one was within 20 yards of him on shots. It was no different than the 3-point contest except he traded in 12 year old ball boys for millionaire all stars to pass him the ball.:lol

TheMarkMadsen
02-16-2015, 05:26 PM
He was.. anyone denying it is dumb.

Hell, besides Irving it seemed like everyone was trash outside of those?

The east is trash and a joke of a conference. What else do you expect

Kblaze8855
02-16-2015, 05:34 PM
Having thought about it...

How many American 6'8'' black guys do you think own an Aston martin or car of similar value without being involved in sports in any way?

It could well be....Montell Jordan and nobody else.

joe
02-16-2015, 05:46 PM
Having thought about it...

How many American 6'8'' black guys do you think own an Aston martin or car of similar value without being involved in sports in any way?

It could well be....Montell Jordan and nobody else.

lmao

ShawkFactory
02-16-2015, 05:57 PM
The two teams were trading wide open 3s the whole game.

Korver is perhaps the best in the game at this.

Obviously he's gonna look good.

Milbuck
02-16-2015, 05:59 PM
One of the best pure shooters of all time in a game played with no defense and nobody so much as closing out on the 3 point line....with the most 3s ever taken in that game...with 4 stars on the court with you at all times...in a game noted for overpassing and guys looking for a nice no look pass..and you actually move off the ball and get open unlike most of the players who are standing around chilling?

Yea...you should expect that guy to put up points.
Pretty much this.

Just lol at acting like Korver draining some 3s in a game w/ zero defense and 130+ 3s attempted is some huge accomplishment.

RoundMoundOfReb
02-16-2015, 07:11 PM
I remember Kenny Smith going "If he dunks from there im leaving the building....." and me and my friends were all on our feet arguing...

I was of the opinion that...he wouldnt try it for the first time at the contest. That he had to do it in practice...

I was me and 3-4 others...just a storm of arguing about if this was possible.

And this scumbag runs right by the tape and takes off at the FT line...and the whole world asks "What the ****? Why did he get our hopes up like that?".

Whatever was left of my childhood died when Josh Smith screwed the entire NBA universe over with that dunk.

Do you still think he has done it in practice and just totally ****ed up during the competition? Or that he couldn't do it at all?

navy
02-16-2015, 07:42 PM
Do you still think he has done it in practice and just totally ****ed up during the competition? Or that he couldn't do it at all?
No way he could do that in practice. Would be the greatest dunk of all time.