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keep-itreal
02-16-2015, 12:14 PM
Who's going to replace him???

Jlamb47
02-16-2015, 12:16 PM
No one can replace Duncan hes top 5 GOAT.
Kawi Leonard will have to step up and take a bigger load and be the franchise. Ginobli will be gone with Duncan most likely and for Parker hes getting old. Hopefully we can get some new players come along.

artificial
02-16-2015, 12:43 PM
Retire Parker, Ginobili and Pop. Then sell the franchise and start over again as a different team, in some other city.

navy
02-16-2015, 12:43 PM
Tiago Splitter

Harison
02-16-2015, 12:46 PM
As long as they have Pop, they'll be fine. Its not like they are superstar-driven team, its purely team play atm.

kshutts1
02-16-2015, 12:49 PM
I can't think of any teams that went from one top 20 (or so) player to another, without missing a beat.

So basically.. the Spurs will do what every team does.
Either be terrible, and get a high pick, and hopefully it pans out
or
Sign FAs and be good for years, but never elite.

Obviously there is more wiggle room than those scenarios suggest, but that same basic truth is evident for every franchise, for every situation in which they lose one of the best players ever.

QuebecBaller
02-16-2015, 01:24 PM
They have to get Monroe this summer. Duncan could help him to become a better player until he retire.

Artillery
02-16-2015, 02:01 PM
As long as they have Pop, they'll be fine. Its not like they are superstar-driven team, its purely team play atm.

Doubt they'll be fine without both Duncan and Manu. They're really the Big Two in San Antonio. If they're both gone, you're left with Leonard and Parker as the franchise guys. Kawhi's a good player but I have doubts about his ability to carry a team. Tony's awful though and on a really bad contract. Three more years of this cancer is going to be brutal for the Spurs. He's always been an overrated player but it's going to be even worse for him without Duncan/Ginobili to carry his ass like they've done throughout the 2000s.

Replacing Duncan's going to be difficult. Replacing both Duncan AND Manu is nearly impossible. Both were high impact players that elevated their game in the playoffs. Guys like that are hard to find in FA. More than likely, they'll be a treadmill team. Not good enough to contend but not bad enough to get a top lottery pick. Hopefully, Pop will hand over the reins to Parker. Tony's just shitty enough that he'll lead them to the bottom of the Western Conference and to a top pick.

rmt
02-16-2015, 02:24 PM
Doubt they'll be fine without both Duncan and Manu. They're really the Big Two in San Antonio. If they're both gone, you're left with Leonard and Parker as the franchise guys. Kawhi's a good player but I have doubts about his ability to carry a team. Tony's awful though and on a really bad contract. Three more years of this cancer is going to be brutal for the Spurs. He's always been an overrated player but it's going to be even worse for him without Duncan/Ginobili to carry his ass like they've done throughout the 2000s.

Replacing Duncan's going to be difficult. Replacing both Duncan AND Manu is nearly impossible. Both were high impact players that elevated their game in the playoffs. Guys like that are hard to find in FA. More than likely, they'll be a treadmill team. Not good enough to contend but not bad enough to get a top lottery pick. Hopefully, Pop will hand over the reins to Parker. Tony's just shitty enough that he'll lead them to the bottom of the Western Conference and to a top pick.

Hear, hear. Really disgusted with Parker and his contract.

It'll be impossible to replace Duncan especially at that price. Big men who impact both sides of the floor are already scarce in the league and they come at a premium - not at a discount. Hopefully they can resign both Leonard and Green, but when TD and Manu leave, they'll be a middling team.

sportjames23
02-16-2015, 02:35 PM
As long as they have Pop, they'll be fine. Its not like they are superstar-driven team, its purely team play atm.

Pop ain't gonna do shit unless he gets someone on Tim's level. We see what Pop did before he got Duncan and it wasn't pretty.

greatest-ever
02-16-2015, 02:44 PM
Well, they didn't win any titles before Duncan, and they won't win any when he leaves. At least not for a very long time.

Hell, seeing how the west is, and that the spurs are a 6-7 seed it's not inconceivable to say they may miss the playoffs the year duncan is gone.

hawkfan
02-16-2015, 02:44 PM
Who's going to replace him???

And Pop will probably retire then too.

greatest-ever
02-16-2015, 02:46 PM
No one can replace Duncan hes top 5 GOAT.
Kawi Leonard will have to step up and take a bigger load and be the franchise. Ginobli will be gone with Duncan most likely and for Parker hes getting old. Hopefully we can get some new players come along.
Contrary to what some may believe, Leonard is not the type of player who can rise up and carry a franchise.

Harison
02-16-2015, 02:50 PM
Replacing Duncan's going to be difficult. Replacing both Duncan AND Manu is nearly impossible.

We arent talking about these players in primes, we are talking about replacing nearly 40 years old guy. Its not like its mission impossible, lets say with Marc - instant upgrade for Spurs.

Manu isnt getting any younger either (soon 38?), very often injured. Spurs fans are bashing him for n postseasons now.

So along with Kiwi improvement, if Spurs add solid talent (and their FO is fantastic), they are fine, not even talking about getting superstars (which is also a possibility).

Therefore its much MUCH harder to replace arguably GOAT coach Pop than ancient TD/Manu, who are role players at this point, and will only get worse.

Harison
02-16-2015, 02:57 PM
Pop ain't gonna do shit unless he gets someone on Tim's level. We see what Pop did before he got Duncan and it wasn't pretty.

What the hell you are talking about? Spurs did "shit" last year with Timmy being just a role player, or you slept through that? They dont need a superstar to win, its one of the beauties of Pops system.

Also you havent seen squat in '97 either, since it was just a part of tanking season.

Charlie Sheen
02-16-2015, 03:09 PM
What the hell you are talking about? Spurs did "shit" last year with Timmy being just a role player, or you slept through that? They dont need a superstar to win, its one of the beauties of Pops system.

Also you havent seen squat in '97 either, since it was just a part of tanking season.

Timmy being just a role player last year? Are you for real?

sportjames23
02-16-2015, 03:34 PM
What the hell you are talking about? Spurs did "shit" last year with Timmy being just a role player, or you slept through that? They dont need a superstar to win, its one of the beauties of Pops system.

Also you havent seen squat in '97 either, since it was just a part of tanking season.


Ok, believe what you will, kid. When Duncan retires and if--IF--Pop stays on, watch what happens. Duncan might not have been the Tim Duncan of old last season, but he's still one of the best in the post on defense and offense. He's still a presence.

A team with NO stars will not win in this league. And without Duncan and Manu (who's on his last legs, too), the Spurs ain't going no where.

rapker
02-16-2015, 05:13 PM
i can't imagine spurs without duncan, pop, manu, and parker.. it's gonna be a whole new ball game in san antonio. it'll be interesting to see how it turns out - and i wouldn't be surprised if they enter a couple tank seasons to try to get back on their feet when those 4 retire.



or.... they can just recruit every player from the hawks :pimp: :banana: :pimp: :banana:

Sportal
02-16-2015, 06:06 PM
I would imagine they'll bring over Livio Jean-Charles. This guy blew his ACL the year they picked him and has been trying to play in France since. He's kinda forgotten about, but he lead that World team vs USA U20s, he had something like 28/12.. He might be worth a look.

guy
02-16-2015, 06:14 PM
Any chance he may not actually retire after this season?

Jud
02-16-2015, 06:16 PM
They should try to get Marc Gasol or Greg Monroe. If they don't get any of those two, then just build around Kawhi.

ninephive
02-16-2015, 07:13 PM
Doubt they'll be fine without both Duncan and Manu. They're really the Big Two in San Antonio. If they're both gone, you're left with Leonard and Parker as the franchise guys. Kawhi's a good player but I have doubts about his ability to carry a team. Tony's awful though and on a really bad contract. Three more years of this cancer is going to be brutal for the Spurs. He's always been an overrated player but it's going to be even worse for him without Duncan/Ginobili to carry his ass like they've done throughout the 2000s.

Replacing Duncan's going to be difficult. Replacing both Duncan AND Manu is nearly impossible. Both were high impact players that elevated their game in the playoffs. Guys like that are hard to find in FA. More than likely, they'll be a treadmill team. Not good enough to contend but not bad enough to get a top lottery pick. Hopefully, Pop will hand over the reins to Parker. Tony's just shitty enough that he'll lead them to the bottom of the Western Conference and to a top pick.
Are you kidding me? Parker was leading the MVP conversation 2 years ago. He was our only All-Star and All-NBA player last year and carried us in the postseason as he has for the past 5 years (led in points and assists in the regular season and playoffs). He bailed us out of a Game 7 against Dallas and destroyed Portland. He led us in scoring in the Finals and is a former Finals MVP. He is repeatedly called the best point guard in the league every year when the postseason rolls around. He ran one of the greatest offenses of all time last year. He's the all-time postseason PG scoring leader and he's not even a max contract guy. Please use some perspective in your posts.

He's hurt this season and has missed almost half the year, thus the first time in how many years that he's not an All-Star. You don't have to take anything away from Duncan or Ginobili to say that Parker's still our best player. Once he's healthy and the postseason rolls around you'll understand.

SCdac
02-16-2015, 07:26 PM
Spurs will keep on keeping on, I'm sure

T_L_P
02-16-2015, 08:20 PM
I think he runs it back for one more year (Pop thinks he will), barring a huge Playoff disappointment.

We'll probably always be able to make the Playoffs with Pop. When Tim retires (assuming we don't pick up a Marc Gasol, which we won't), we're done as serious contenders though.

It'll be even worse if Tony really has just fallen off, and it's not just because he got fat. His contract is among the worst in the NBA right now.

T_L_P
02-16-2015, 08:22 PM
Are you kidding me? Parker was leading the MVP conversation 2 years ago. He was our only All-Star and All-NBA player last year and carried us in the postseason as he has for the past 5 years (led in points and assists in the regular season and playoffs). He bailed us out of a Game 7 against Dallas and destroyed Portland. He led us in scoring in the Finals and is a former Finals MVP. He is repeatedly called the best point guard in the league every year when the postseason rolls around. He ran one of the greatest offenses of all time last year. He's the all-time postseason PG scoring leader and he's not even a max contract guy. Please use some perspective in your posts.

He's hurt this season and has missed almost half the year, thus the first time in how many years that he's not an All-Star. You don't have to take anything away from Duncan or Ginobili to say that Parker's still our best player. Once he's healthy and the postseason rolls around you'll understand.

:roll:

navy
02-16-2015, 08:29 PM
Pop ain't gonna do shit unless he gets someone on Tim's level. We see what Pop did before he got Duncan and it wasn't pretty.
What?

Anyways, Pop has clearly changed from then.

I<3NBA
02-16-2015, 08:30 PM
As long as they have Pop, they'll be fine. Its not like they are superstar-driven team, its purely team play atm.
Popovich has gone on record saying he will retire the same time Duncan retires.

T_L_P
02-16-2015, 08:34 PM
Popovich has gone on record saying he will retire the same time Duncan retires.

Nah, he signed a 5-year extension before the season.

Stuff was floating around a few weeks ago that he'll go earlier than that, but I'm pretty sure he sticks around for one more season after Tim.

Losing Tim and Pop at the same time would be too much.

Hey Yo
02-16-2015, 08:54 PM
What the hell you are talking about? Spurs did "shit" last year with Timmy being just a role player, or you slept through that? They dont need a superstar to win, its one of the beauties of Pops system.

Also you havent seen squat in '97 either, since it was just a part of tanking season.
There would have been no tanking going on if The Admiral didn't miss 76 games due to injury.

T_L_P
02-16-2015, 08:59 PM
What the hell you are talking about? Spurs did "shit" last year with Timmy being just a role player, or you slept through that? They dont need a superstar to win, its one of the beauties of Pops system.

Also you havent seen squat in '97 either, since it was just a part of tanking season.

We've seen Pop's 1-6 record in Playoff games without Duncan, all against pretty shitty teams (00 Suns and 02 Sonics).

G-train
02-16-2015, 09:02 PM
Well, they didn't win any titles before Duncan, and they won't win any when he leaves. At least not for a very long time.

Hell, seeing how the west is, and that the spurs are a 6-7 seed it's not inconceivable to say they may miss the playoffs the year duncan is gone.

They haven't made the playoffs this season yet.

Spurs m8
02-16-2015, 10:32 PM
Popovich has gone on record saying he will retire the same time Duncan retires.

This is not the case

Cheers

sportsfan76
02-16-2015, 10:35 PM
All I know is Pop better not retire with Duncan because he will look like a fraudulent b*tch:rockon:

He better leave before duncan or coach two more years after him